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Argentina - 55 (69.6%)
France - 24 (30.4%)
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October 03, 2022, 04:52:41 PM
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I recently saw some reports about Qatar from footballers who have played there. They say it's not as hot there as people think. Okay, during the day it can be 35 degrees or slightly warmer, but when the sun starts to go down it cools down pretty quickly and then the weather isn't that hot at all. I think that is a huge advantage for the teams, so that you can look for a moment of cooling in the evening. That wouldn't have been possible otherwise. I think the last time we had a World Cup in Asia was in South Korea in 2002? But I think it was still very warm in the evening. I don't expect many surprises in the group stage but I am curious what Spain - Germany will be.
Many different repots about weather in Qatar because one person who is already living and having some good adjustment about weather is surely going to be had different view with a person is going to be there for few days, and he has to done job in ground under open sky with as we all know whether in European countries is completely different in these months from the Middle East. Still, as we have few negative news about weather sometime back now coming into positive for many players and teams which is surely a positive news because
with this we will be having not bad impact on player's performance, and they could be able to give their best under these circumstances.

But, keep one thing in mind Middle East weather is surely going to have impact on few European countries players otherwise mostly will be done good and feel much prefer able because they can adjust with this all quickly.

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October 03, 2022, 07:41:59 PM
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I read an interesting article today
Google is predicting the world cup, and the final will be (according to Google)

Brazil vs France

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Tech giant Google has mistakenly declared the final of the Qatar World Cup, placing Brazil and France in the tournament’s finale.

For a short amount of time, online users who searched for “Lusail stadium events” came up with the result that revealed Brazil to face France at Qatar’s ‘jewel in the desert’ stadium.

As reported by the Twitter account AtaqueFutbolero, football fans may be rushing to call this a conspiracy set up by FIFA and the world’s elites. Still, it’s more likely that the ‘reliable search engine’ made a juvenile mistake.
Source: https://dohanews.co/did-google-just-predict-the-final-for-the-fifa-world-cup-2022-in-qatar/

Haha, this is not financial advise, maybe it's just a joke from Google, but it's interesting why they show the "final" game  Huh

Let's see in a few weeks, but there's a great chance to be the finals

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October 03, 2022, 11:39:30 PM
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I read an interesting article today
Google is predicting the world cup, and the final will be (according to Google)

Brazil vs France

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Tech giant Google has mistakenly declared the final of the Qatar World Cup, placing Brazil and France in the tournament’s finale.

For a short amount of time, online users who searched for “Lusail stadium events” came up with the result that revealed Brazil to face France at Qatar’s ‘jewel in the desert’ stadium.

As reported by the Twitter account AtaqueFutbolero, football fans may be rushing to call this a conspiracy set up by FIFA and the world’s elites. Still, it’s more likely that the ‘reliable search engine’ made a juvenile mistake.
Source: https://dohanews.co/did-google-just-predict-the-final-for-the-fifa-world-cup-2022-in-qatar/

Haha, this is not financial advise, maybe it's just a joke from Google, but it's interesting why they show the "final" game  Huh

Let's see in a few weeks, but there's a great chance to be the finals

That's quite interesting.

My guess is that Google has a prediction for each of these matches, and there was a mistake in the UI and the prediction was displayed instead of the real teams which are still TBD.

I think events like this might even change the betting sites odds.

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October 04, 2022, 01:12:52 AM
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That's quite interesting.

My guess is that Google has a prediction for each of these matches, and there was a mistake in the UI and the prediction was displayed instead of the real teams which are still TBD.

I think events like this might even change the betting sites odds.

Google already shows probability of win, I'll show you an example:



There's a match between Barcelona vs Inter, will be tomorrow and Google shows the probability of winning
So it's safe to say Google is running some numbers to define the odds since they don't provide the source of a third party.

I think they did a mistake, like you said, so, according to math and statistics, the final will be Brazil vs France
I know , it's just a prediction, but it helps people make some decision.
I'll try to find more information about google odds.

* But to be fair, most of sites, forums and services have Brazil favorite, and France 2nd or 3rd place.

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October 04, 2022, 01:52:06 AM
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I think Argentina team is very strong in this World Cup. Their team players are in good form this time. They perform their duties properly in their respective positions. They have Messi in their team, who has been in great form for the national team this season. Maybe this is Messi's last World Cup so everyone will want to at least win the World Cup to make Messi happy.

This is the best team that Argentina has sent to the world cup since 1990. And apart from this, the European teams are in quite bad shape and that means that Brazil is the only large obstacle that remains between Argentina and the trophy. And also, this is the last world cup for Messi, and the entire team will try their best to win the world cup as a farewell gift. Argentina is on a 35-match continuous winning streak, and it proves that the momentum is with them. Weather conditions in Qatar should also be favorable for them, compared to the Europeans.

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October 04, 2022, 04:18:22 AM
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I think Argentina team is very strong in this World Cup. Their team players are in good form this time. They perform their duties properly in their respective positions. They have Messi in their team, who has been in great form for the national team this season. Maybe this is Messi's last World Cup so everyone will want to at least win the World Cup to make Messi happy.

This is the best team that Argentina has sent to the world cup since 1990. And apart from this, the European teams are in quite bad shape and that means that Brazil is the only large obstacle that remains between Argentina and the trophy. And also, this is the last world cup for Messi, and the entire team will try their best to win the world cup as a farewell gift. Argentina is on a 35-match continuous winning streak, and it proves that the momentum is with them. Weather conditions in Qatar should also be favorable for them, compared to the Europeans.
there is no doubt that Argentina is the seeded nation in the 2022 FIFA world cup Qatar. and Messi will play for the last time in the world cup. but another country that is seeded is France. And in France there is also Karim Benzema where Benzema will also play for the last time in the World Cup. if these two countries can get to the Finals it will be a great match. but Brazil is really the most superior this time. because many of the star players are from Brazil.

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October 04, 2022, 01:08:22 PM
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Argentina is not the strongest team in the Qatar world cup, in fact, there are many other squads that have more depth than Argentina. it's just that, Argentina has a very consistent performance than the other seeded squad. Argentina has proven to have a fantastic match record in recent years, this year's world cup. Argentina has a great chance to be one of the candidates who have the potential to win the championship trophy. however, is not the strongest.
because after all Brazil is the strongest candidate and has complete players than Argentina, even so, teams from the European continent should also not be underestimated. although the performance of France, Germany, England is very low especially in the league of nations. does not mean they will not play well in the world cup later.
there are still some teams even though they are not very top, Belgium, Croatia, Holland, maybe they will give us a surprise.

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October 04, 2022, 03:37:09 PM
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Argentina is not the strongest team in the Qatar world cup, in fact, there are many other squads that have more depth than Argentina. it's just that, Argentina has a very consistent performance than the other seeded squad.

It's always interesting to see Argentina, some years they had the strongest squad but didn't win.
They are the last champion of Copa America (2021) against Brazil, and they won again vs Italia (champion of Europe at that time)

Messi will probably give everything he have to be the champion, this is probably the last chance of winning a world cup, and in my opinion the team can support Messi in a better way than Cristiano Ronaldo and Portugal for example.

There are some incredible players too like Di Maria, Otamendi, Dybala, Lautaro and many others.
It's a good generation of Argentinians, we can consider the last chance of Di Maria too

Being realistic, Argentina have great chances to be at least at quarters, top 8 teams, good chance to be at top 4 semi finals, and some chance to be champion.

I will not bet in Argentina to be the champion, but I don't have courage to bet against  Cheesy

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October 04, 2022, 03:54:46 PM
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Google already shows probability of win, I'll show you an example:



There's a match between Barcelona vs Inter, will be tomorrow and Google shows the probability of winning
So it's safe to say Google is running some numbers to define the odds since they don't provide the source of a third party.

I think they did a mistake, like you said, so, according to math and statistics, the final will be Brazil vs France
I know , it's just a prediction, but it helps people make some decision.
I'll try to find more information about google odds.

* But to be fair, most of sites, forums and services have Brazil favorite, and France 2nd or 3rd place.

Yes, it definitely doesn't look like a leak, because even if they think the Brazil-France final is the most likely, there is no point in publishing this prediction since the probability of this event could be 5% or less. Maybe this is the most likely final compared to other combinations of teams, but when compared with the total probability - 95% of other options, then there is no point in making such loud predictions so that later everyone points out the mistake to you.

I wonder if Google keeps statistics on its forecasts? I would like to know how accurate they are.
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I wonder if Google keeps statistics on its forecasts? I would like to know how accurate they are.

I don't think they do, it's probably just an internal data.

Some people are trying to understand how Google calculates these probabilities and it seems it's all quite private.

At least there are some explanations in that link that might help understand the model a bit better, but we really don't know how accurate it is from outside Google.

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October 05, 2022, 03:18:01 AM
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Argentina is not the strongest team in the Qatar world cup, in fact, there are many other squads that have more depth than Argentina. it's just that, Argentina has a very consistent performance than the other seeded squad.

It's always interesting to see Argentina, some years they had the strongest squad but didn't win.
They are the last champion of Copa America (2021) against Brazil, and they won again vs Italia (champion of Europe at that time)

Messi will probably give everything he have to be the champion, this is probably the last chance of winning a world cup, and in my opinion the team can support Messi in a better way than Cristiano Ronaldo and Portugal for example.

There are some incredible players too like Di Maria, Otamendi, Dybala, Lautaro and many others.
It's a good generation of Argentinians, we can consider the last chance of Di Maria too

Being realistic, Argentina have great chances to be at least at quarters, top 8 teams, good chance to be at top 4 semi finals, and some chance to be champion.

I will not bet in Argentina to be the champion, but I don't have courage to bet against  Cheesy

The Argentinians will go with everything they have to win the next World Cup, I really think they wasted the opportunity they had when Messi was on his prime just because of internal disputes and now they are seeing that if they do not win this championship then 36 years would have passed since the last time they won the World Cup, and for the fans of Argentina which believe their team to be the best around the world this will be a difficult reality to accept.
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The Argentinians will go with everything they have to win the next World Cup, I really think they wasted the opportunity they had when Messi was on his prime just because of internal disputes and now they are seeing that if they do not win this championship then 36 years would have passed since the last time they won the World Cup, and for the fans of Argentina which believe their team to be the best around the world this will be a difficult reality to accept.
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maybe I'm just playing the devil's advocate here but don't you think all teams go with everything they have to win?
I mean, of course some have best chances, and some have more desire,
but in the end, no team goes to the field thinking it won't be the next winner

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there is no doubt that Argentina is the seeded nation in the 2022 FIFA world cup Qatar. and Messi will play for the last time in the world cup. but another country that is seeded is France. And in France there is also Karim Benzema where Benzema will also play for the last time in the World Cup. if these two countries can get to the Finals it will be a great match. but Brazil is really the most superior this time. because many of the star players are from Brazil.

You can't compare these three countries at the same time. Brazil and Argentina are in great form. Momentum is with them, and players such as Messi and Neymar are performing exceptionally well. On the other hand, France recently had a mixed record in international matches. There are rumors of issues in team bonding. And it is not just France. Other UEFA nations are also in quite bad shape. I am talking about countries such as Germany, Netherlands and England as well. CONMEBOL teams are looking in much better shape, when compared to those from other confederations.

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October 05, 2022, 01:37:01 PM
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there is no doubt that Argentina is the seeded nation in the 2022 FIFA world cup Qatar. and Messi will play for the last time in the world cup. but another country that is seeded is France. And in France there is also Karim Benzema where Benzema will also play for the last time in the World Cup. if these two countries can get to the Finals it will be a great match. but Brazil is really the most superior this time. because many of the star players are from Brazil.

You can't compare these three countries at the same time. Brazil and Argentina are in great form. Momentum is with them, and players such as Messi and Neymar are performing exceptionally well. On the other hand, France recently had a mixed record in international matches. There are rumors of issues in team bonding. And it is not just France. Other UEFA nations are also in quite bad shape. I am talking about countries such as Germany, Netherlands and England as well. CONMEBOL teams are looking in much better shape, when compared to those from other confederations.

@Sithara007 you’re correct because France is over relying on Pogba, who even though hasn’t played much this season will get a walk in the playing 11 provided he’s fit, and that will further create discontent between the player’s. Also Brazil has Casemiro, Anthony besides Neymar so they’re very strong heading in the World Cup, lastly I don’t think that even *Argentina could beat them in the World Cup (*if they clash during the course of the tournament).
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October 05, 2022, 01:54:12 PM
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~snip~
I wonder if Google keeps statistics on its forecasts? I would like to know how accurate they are.

I don't think they do, it's probably just an internal data.

Some people are trying to understand how Google calculates these probabilities and it seems it's all quite private.

At least there are some explanations in that link that might help understand the model a bit better, but we really don't know how accurate it is from outside Google.

If it's just a prediction, of course we can also do it without the reference predicted by google. the name is also a prediction, it will not always be right, but sometimes many people misinterpret predictions. the only thing that is the most fun is the prediction from the results of my own analysis, because that is the most interesting part for us to do before a football match will be held.

but it never hurts to look for prediction references from other sources or it could be from soccer experts.
Speaking of predictions, I remember from the predictions of Paul the Octopus, he is an octopus who lives in an aquarium at the Sea Life Center, Oberhausen, Germany. in the 2010 world cup, which every flag he chose from the two competing countries, had almost 100 percent accuracy, and I think this is just a coincidence. however, back again, the name of the prediction will not always be right.

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October 05, 2022, 02:06:09 PM
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@Sithara007 you’re correct because France is over relying on Pogba, who even though hasn’t played much this season will get a walk in the playing 11 provided he’s fit, and that will further create discontent between the player’s. Also Brazil has Casemiro, Anthony besides Neymar so they’re very strong heading in the World Cup, lastly I don’t think that even *Argentina could beat them in the World Cup (*if they clash during the course of the tournament).

Pogba is injured. Even if he recovers ahead of the world cup, I don't know how fit he will be. The good news is that his surgery has been successful. However it looks as if he may miss the world cup this time. Initial estimates suggest that he may be fit to play by the end of October. If that is true, then he will be a part of the French World Cup squad. Now coming to the rivalry between Argentina and Brazil, please don't forget what happened during the Copa America final of 2021. Brazil is having the upper hand now, but the gap is not very wide.

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There are name players who may not have relevance in the performance of their teams, the World Cup is played by all those summoned, history has shown that many mega stars have spent a World Cup sitting on the bench.

The interesting thing about this World Cup is who is not back, perhaps not even as substitutes.

Qatar is guaranteed a special place in World Cup history as the end of an era of incredible footballers led by the greatest footballer in the history of the sport.

The list is perhaps one of the most talented to make the equivalence with other World Cups, but writing I get a name that within that extensive list, Garet Bale, him unlike Messi, this World Cup is a reward for his magnificent career in football and in a certain way it is the history of the great footballers, achieving things like the one GB did with his national team.
 
In the case of Messi, the only thing that helps him is to win the soccer world cup, if he does not achieve it, nothing takes away that position as the best in sport, but in the history of the world cups an objective classification of players Messi shouldn't be in the top 20.

The World Cup is special for that reason, you only have 30 days to show that you are the best and 4 years for a new attempt.






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here is a very nice graph showing that argentina can break the current record of italy (to be unbeaten in 37 games) at the world cup.
the argentines need 3 more wins and they will play in group stage against uae, saudi arabia, mexico and poland


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here is a very nice graph showing that argentina can break the current record of italy (to be unbeaten in 37 games) at the world cup.
the argentines need 3 more wins and they will play in group stage against uae, saudi arabia, mexico and poland



I never expected that Argentina could be that eager this year. Italy has been unbeatable for a long time and it may be at risk because of its current standing. It seems that Argentina has prepared well before facing Italy which their opponent never expected as well. Let's see how Italy will defend its status but I'm rooting for Argentina to change its record.
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On your own prediction, whom do you think will win the tournament and carry the Golden Cup?
If this is the question of who will bring the champions 1,2 and 3 in the upcoming 2022 FIFA World Cup tournament in Qatar, which is scheduled to take place 21 Nev, I think this question is too early to answer, because it is currently still in the qualifying round.

As in the current list of countries qualifying for the 2022 World Cup, it has reached 29 countries, there are still 3 more slots that are still up for grabs at this time out of a total of 32 countries.

I think France, Germany, Spain, Croatia are also good teams and they have qualified for the 2022 FIFA World Cup, for now, Honestly, I don't dare to answer at this time, because the tournament hasn't started yet who will enter the top 10 and so on.

Maybe, if the tournament is already underway and has entered the top 10, I will answer here, who is most likely to win 1,2 and 3 champions.
I agree with you - it's too early to predict the winners at that stage when the matches will start in November.
Also there is a change needed in OP - the poll can be created so that people can easily vote for their favorite team. For me -  Portugal is my favorite.
Now I'm a little surprised when I have to predict who will win, because this hasn't started yet. I can still answer when the question is "which country is your favorite to win the World Cup title this time?" because it puts the country we like. But if the question is like the OP said honestly I can't answer because it has to be judged from a realistic point of view which we have to see from the way they played during the World Cup.

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