FIFA 2022 world cup

[Sithara007]

Indeed, this is what makes many people not interested in going to Qatar to watch the 2022 World Cup live. But it is different with football fans from among Muslims. they will definitely keep fighting over tickets to watch the world cup in qatar. because Muslims are used to partying without beer.

but I think even though there is a ban on alcohol there. but there must be a special place provided there. be it official or unofficial. because remembering the FIFA World Cup is for all people. so there must be some relaxation of regulations there specifically for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

There is still a lack of clarity on so many issues. Qatar authorities are saying that alcohol won't be available in specially designated areas and it will be available only in stadiums, and that too 2-3 hours before the match. There are several countries in the GCC region, and laws related to alcohol varies widely in each of them. For example, in Bahrain and UAE alcohol is available 24x7 in specially designated areas. But that is not the case in more conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

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[nullama]

Indeed, this is what makes many people not interested in going to Qatar to watch the 2022 World Cup live. But it is different with football fans from among Muslims. they will definitely keep fighting over tickets to watch the world cup in qatar. because Muslims are used to partying without beer.

but I think even though there is a ban on alcohol there. but there must be a special place provided there. be it official or unofficial. because remembering the FIFA World Cup is for all people. so there must be some relaxation of regulations there specifically for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

There is still a lack of clarity on so many issues. Qatar authorities are saying that alcohol won't be available in specially designated areas and it will be available only in stadiums, and that too 2-3 hours before the match. There are several countries in the GCC region, and laws related to alcohol varies widely in each of them. For example, in Bahrain and UAE alcohol is available 24x7 in specially designated areas. But that is not the case in more conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

[doomloop]

There is still a lack of clarity on so many issues. Qatar authorities are saying that alcohol won't be available in specially designated areas and it will be available only in stadiums, and that too 2-3 hours before the match. There are several countries in the GCC region, and laws related to alcohol varies widely in each of them. For example, in Bahrain and UAE alcohol is available 24x7 in specially designated areas. But that is not the case in more conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

Agreed FIFA is very powerful organization, and they will do good things which help all fans from the world to enjoy this event right now many things are in process and Qatar authorities are also having some good way of advertising like they are hiring many celebrities for better information and all guidelines but right now it's time for them to do things very quickly because we have no just 2 months and this is going to be complicated if they will lose more time in these things.

Right now alcohol related things are major problem for fans so may be just for this event they allow, and then they will go back to their regular polices because this could be also helpful for them and fans as right now Qatar is on verge of biggest explore, so they have to accept few changes for this event which will give them better response from all world for this event.

[SATWAT]

Indeed, this is what makes many people not interested in going to Qatar to watch the 2022 World Cup live. But it is different with football fans from among Muslims. they will definitely keep fighting over tickets to watch the world cup in qatar. because Muslims are used to partying without beer.

but I think even though there is a ban on alcohol there. but there must be a special place provided there. be it official or unofficial. because remembering the FIFA World Cup is for all people. so there must be some relaxation of regulations there specifically for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

There is still a lack of clarity on so many issues. Qatar authorities are saying that alcohol won't be available in specially designated areas and it will be available only in stadiums, and that too 2-3 hours before the match. There are several countries in the GCC region, and laws related to alcohol varies widely in each of them. For example, in Bahrain and UAE alcohol is available 24x7 in specially designated areas. But that is not the case in more conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

We have some updates from Qatar about their alcohol policy as many fans are concerned about this, but things are slowly settling and authorities are giving updates time by time, hopefully we will have more in coming days about this all.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62794507

[nullama]

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We have some updates from Qatar about their alcohol policy as many fans are concerned about this, but things are slowly settling and authorities are giving updates time by time, hopefully we will have more in coming days about this all.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62794507

Good to see some official updates on this:

The Fifa event will be taking place in a Muslim country in the Middle East for the first time, and the consumption of alcohol is prohibited in Islam.

A 40,000-capacity fan zone in the capital Doha has also been confirmed, where a drink can also be purchased.

Interesting, that's a lot of people. Stadiums in Qatar range from 40,000 to 80,000 in full capacity, 6 of 8 stadiums are for 40k people, so they would in theory be serving alcohol to the same amount of people that are inside the stadiums. Source: https://www.qatar2022.qa/en/tournament/stadiums

Not sure if they will be serving alcohol inside the stadiums though.

[alegotardo]

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

I think it's a big disrespect what FIFA does by imposing its power against the laws and customs of a country.
If they (Fifa) have accepted Qatar as the host of the world cup, then these adjustments should be made and agreed in advance, without the pressure of trying to change things now so close to the event happening.
In the case of Qatar, we are talking about an extremely rich and powerful country too, so FIFA has more difficulties in imposing "its rules", however, imagine the power of persuasion that they must not have exercised against South Africa, for example.

[nullama]

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I think it's a big disrespect what FIFA does by imposing its power against the laws and customs of a country.
If they (Fifa) have accepted Qatar as the host of the world cup, then these adjustments should be made and agreed in advance, without the pressure of trying to change things now so close to the event happening.
In the case of Qatar, we are talking about an extremely rich and powerful country too, so FIFA has more difficulties in imposing "its rules", however, imagine the power of persuasion that they must not have exercised against South Africa, for example.

It's an interesting thing to watch from the sideline.

I'm pretty sure they're having lots of discussions and debate with people in government. But having said that, Qatar also knew about FIFA sponsors, like Budweiser for example, plus all the previous world cups like the one in Brazil where they changed the law to allow selling alcohol in the stadiums.

I think it will eventually happen, but Qatar wants to keep it as quiet as possible. My guess is that the sale of alcohol was one of the conditions for the world cup to be held there. There's just way too much money to be made there.

[KennyR]

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

I think it's a big disrespect what FIFA does by imposing its power against the laws and customs of a country.
If they (Fifa) have accepted Qatar as the host of the world cup, then these adjustments should be made and agreed in advance, without the pressure of trying to change things now so close to the event happening.
In the case of Qatar, we are talking about an extremely rich and powerful country too, so FIFA has more difficulties in imposing "its rules", however, imagine the power of persuasion that they must not have exercised against South Africa, for example.

Once the policies are changed it is difficult to take it once after the event. Qatar being the first East Asian Country to conduct such a big event have taken this decision. Somehow the authority is trying to keep everything under control.

• Ticket buyers can buy alcohol three hours before the match start.
• One hour after the match can be bought.
• Designated locations were provided for consumption.
• No buying while the match is live.

[Sithara007]

Once the policies are changed it is difficult to take it once after the event. Qatar being the first East Asian Country to conduct such a big event have taken this decision. Somehow the authority is trying to keep everything under control.

• Ticket buyers can buy alcohol three hours before the match start.
• One hour after the match can be bought.
• Designated locations were provided for consumption.
• No buying while the match is live.

So many useless restrictions. If beer is available, then why it is not available for everyone? Only those with tickets will be able to purchase the drinks and that too for a few hours before the match. If a football fan is in Qatar for 2 weeks and he is attending two matches, this mean that he will be able to purchase drinks only two times during this entire stay. I am sure that this will lead to a lot of black marketing and the fans will end up purchasing drinks for 5x or 10x their original price from dark markets.

[Zlantann]

So many useless restrictions. If beer is available, then why it is not available for everyone? Only those with tickets will be able to purchase the drinks and that too for a few hours before the match. If a football fan is in Qatar for 2 weeks and he is attending two matches, this mean that he will be able to purchase drinks only two times during this entire stay.

Qatar wants to benefit from the money and fame that hosting the world cup brings but they don't want to bear the consequences of their decisions. The World cup is an international event that is not affiliated with a single religion or culture, hence FIFA should be allowed to organize the event without restrictions. Beverage companies have been one of the major sponsors of the world cup, hence this issue should have been discussed before even giving Qatar the hosting slot.

In my, country a particular region forbids the consumption of alcohol due to religious beliefs but they share alcohol taxes collected from other regions. This is the case of Qatar. they want the gloom and fun of the tournament but they want to dodge away from the price of the glory of the competition. 

These restrictions and policies might end up making the competition uninteresting and FITA might end up selling fewer tickets than they budgeted. I cannot watch football in a place that is guided by draconian laws which would make fans feel like they are imprisoned.    

[rahmad2nd]

To be honest, I'm not really interested in the discussion about beer or alcohol which is the theme of this discussion.

I'm not really interested in knowing how this mechanism will work, anyway I wasn't there when the world cup match started.  however the management of qatar itself has relaxed some of the rules regarding what is a problem with beer and allows it in certain areas and certain hours some examples have been explained by @sithara007.

However, I think after all every country has a different culture that everyone should respect, especially for those who will witness the world cup performances this year.
The important thing is that the spirit of football continues to unite all nations.

[ethereumhunter]

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I think it's a big disrespect what FIFA does by imposing its power against the laws and customs of a country.
If they (Fifa) have accepted Qatar as the host of the world cup, then these adjustments should be made and agreed in advance, without the pressure of trying to change things now so close to the event happening.
In the case of Qatar, we are talking about an extremely rich and powerful country too, so FIFA has more difficulties in imposing "its rules", however, imagine the power of persuasion that they must not have exercised against South Africa, for example.

It's an interesting thing to watch from the sideline.

I'm pretty sure they're having lots of discussions and debate with people in government. But having said that, Qatar also knew about FIFA sponsors, like Budweiser for example, plus all the previous world cups like the one in Brazil where they changed the law to allow selling alcohol in the stadiums.

I think it will eventually happen, but Qatar wants to keep it as quiet as possible. My guess is that the sale of alcohol was one of the conditions for the world cup to be held there. There's just way too much money to be made there.

That may be the case in Qatar, but the Muslim population being is the largest religion in Qatar, I think alcohol will probably be prohibited there. But we know that the power of money can change everything and I'm curious if that's the case in Qatar or will revise it. The World Cup is a prestigious event that attracts many industries who want to promote their products and is one of the great opportunities they have. They are willing to pay expensive promotion fees at the World Cup.

[Sithara007]

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These restrictions and policies might end up making the competition uninteresting and FITA might end up selling fewer tickets than they budgeted. I cannot watch football in a place that is guided by draconian laws which would make fans feel like they are imprisoned.    

My thoughts as well. As we all know, there was massive controversy, when the world cup hosting rights were granted to Qatar in the first place. Now if the fans complain in the end, then FIFA may be more reluctant to give hosting rights to such countries in the future. Qatar officials are thinking that they will showoff with all their petrodollar wealth and that will stop people from complaining. But in the end, there will be at least a few brave people who are not blinded by all that wealth. Jordan Henderson and Gareth Southgate from England have already made their concerns public.

[uneng]

Regards the criticisms Qatar and this edition of World Cup are suffering, I think first of all it is FIFA's fault, because they knew or at least should know the local rules, culture and traditions of the Qatarian society before announcing the country would held the event this year. Since many of the local laws such as alcohol, homosexuality and sex outside of marriage prohibitions are frowned up by another participant nations, and I would say most of them, the event shouldn'd happen in Qatar, because of course a part of those guidelines will have to be followed even by foreigners. And it was FIFA which created this situation.

[Webetcoins]

Regards the criticisms Qatar and this edition of World Cup are suffering, I think first of all it is FIFA's fault, because they knew or at least should know the local rules, culture and traditions of the Qatarian society before announcing the country would held the event this year. Since many of the local laws such as alcohol, homosexuality and sex outside of marriage prohibitions are frowned up by another participant nations, and I would say most of them, the event shouldn'd happen in Qatar, because of course a part of those guidelines will have to be followed even by foreigners. And it was FIFA which created this situation.

This is completely nonsense why these countries are not allowed for this every country is having right for applying and going with their own rules and laws and FIFA or any other sports authority can do anything like this for banning countries those are strict about their laws regarding alcohol, homosexuality and sex outside marriage you are not going there for long time it is just matter of three or four weeks and just because of these crap things you want nothing entertainment happen in these countries are not good.

As they already announce few updates about alcohol and other things we all need to accept this and as this is matter of honor for any country he is going to do this all so fans and players can do adjustment for few days, and then they have right done things which they want to do after end of event in their own country if FIFA or any other sports authority will bring any rule or law for banning these countries then surely they can suffer badly for these shit things.

[Ayers]

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These restrictions and policies might end up making the competition uninteresting and FITA might end up selling fewer tickets than they budgeted. I cannot watch football in a place that is guided by draconian laws which would make fans feel like they are imprisoned.    

My thoughts as well. As we all know, there was massive controversy, when the world cup hosting rights were granted to Qatar in the first place. Now if the fans complain in the end, then FIFA may be more reluctant to give hosting rights to such countries in the future. Qatar officials are thinking that they will showoff with all their petrodollar wealth and that will stop people from complaining. But in the end, there will be at least a few brave people who are not blinded by all that wealth. Jordan Henderson and Gareth Southgate from England have already made their concerns public.

a big problem is that there will be a lot of money flowing in and only one or two people who complain about certain things will not be able to do anything about it, especially when the officials are even going to be paid quite well
unless it is a problem that is raised by a large number of people and unless something is done so that FIFA actually has to react to it, nothing is going to change

i think FIFA is going to play it safe by saying that they are giving a country that isn't that good at football the opportunity to host the world cup and through that, they are probably going to get a lot more interested in the game as a result, there is no doubt that the truth is known by all of us

[uneng]

Regards the criticisms Qatar and this edition of World Cup are suffering, I think first of all it is FIFA's fault, because they knew or at least should know the local rules, culture and traditions of the Qatarian society before announcing the country would held the event this year. Since many of the local laws such as alcohol, homosexuality and sex outside of marriage prohibitions are frowned up by another participant nations, and I would say most of them, the event shouldn'd happen in Qatar, because of course a part of those guidelines will have to be followed even by foreigners. And it was FIFA which created this situation.

This is completely nonsense why these countries are not allowed for this every country is having right for applying and going with their own rules and laws and FIFA or any other sports authority can do anything like this for banning countries those are strict about their laws regarding alcohol, homosexuality and sex outside marriage you are not going there for long time it is just matter of three or four weeks and just because of these crap things you want nothing entertainment happen in these countries are not good.

As they already announce few updates about alcohol and other things we all need to accept this and as this is matter of honor for any country he is going to do this all so fans and players can do adjustment for few days, and then they have right done things which they want to do after end of event in their own country if FIFA or any other sports authority will bring any rule or law for banning these countries then surely they can suffer badly for these shit things.

The same way the country is sovereign on its decisions on what is better for their people, the federation of FIFA is also sovereign on its values and principles. If a country doesn't respect or follow those values and principles of the federation, FIFA shouldn't host any events on that country to not hurt their convictions and what they believe. I think it's contradictory to defend the country setting their own rules, while attempting to force others (in this case FIFA) to agree and indirectly endorse those rules. Not that FIFA is concerned about any of these points, as profit is everything what matters for them.

[alegotardo]

Regards the criticisms Qatar and this edition of World Cup are suffering, I think first of all it is FIFA's fault, because they knew or at least should know the local rules, culture and traditions of the Qatarian society before announcing the country would held the event this year. Since many of the local laws such as alcohol, homosexuality and sex outside of marriage prohibitions are frowned up by another participant nations, and I would say most of them, the event shouldn'd happen in Qatar, because of course a part of those guidelines will have to be followed even by foreigners. And it was FIFA which created this situation.

I believe FIFA knew about the problems regarding the laws it would face in Qatar, but most likely that country must deposit a lot of money in the hands of powerful people within FIFA, that's why they decided to make the games happen there.
Now that everything is set, FIFA is trying to make the laws more flexible, but I don't believe they will succeed.
Qatar is a strong, rich country with very influential people, so the games must take place respecting local rules.

[Sithara007]

Regards the criticisms Qatar and this edition of World Cup are suffering, I think first of all it is FIFA's fault, because they knew or at least should know the local rules, culture and traditions of the Qatarian society before announcing the country would held the event this year. Since many of the local laws such as alcohol, homosexuality and sex outside of marriage prohibitions are frowned up by another participant nations, and I would say most of them, the event shouldn'd happen in Qatar, because of course a part of those guidelines will have to be followed even by foreigners. And it was FIFA which created this situation.

Agreed. World Cup hosting rights were granted to Qatar in a hurry and without much introspection from the part of FIFA. Even back then, there were allegations that the Qatari officials were openly bribing poor members to vote in their favor. And ever since they won the bidding, there have been serious allegations of mistreatment of migrant workers and LGBT individuals within Qatar. FIFA has taken no action to this date, to ensure that adequate compensation is provided to the close to 6,000 migrant workers who died during the construction of world cup stadiums.

[Daniel91]

Regards the criticisms Qatar and this edition of World Cup are suffering, I think first of all it is FIFA's fault, because they knew or at least should know the local rules, culture and traditions of the Qatarian society before announcing the country would held the event this year. Since many of the local laws such as alcohol, homosexuality and sex outside of marriage prohibitions are frowned up by another participant nations, and I would say most of them, the event shouldn'd happen in Qatar, because of course a part of those guidelines will have to be followed even by foreigners. And it was FIFA which created this situation.

Agreed. World Cup hosting rights were granted to Qatar in a hurry and without much introspection from the part of FIFA. Even back then, there were allegations that the Qatari officials were openly bribing poor members to vote in their favor. And ever since they won the bidding, there have been serious allegations of mistreatment of migrant workers and LGBT individuals within Qatar. FIFA has taken no action to this date, to ensure that adequate compensation is provided to the close to 6,000 migrant workers who died during the construction of world cup stadiums.

The same doubts existed in the case of awarding the World Cup to Russia 2018 and of course FIFA covered everything up and nothing happened.
FIFA is actually a commercial company and the only thing they are interested in is the expected earnings from the World Cup, and Russia and Qatar obviously offered more money than other competitors, and that was the only thing that mattered in the decision-making process.
Sports motives, honesty, fight against corruption? Don't be ridiculous, FIFA is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world, just look at who the members of the FIFA executive committee are and everything will be clear to you 
Football is no longer just a sport, but exclusively a business.