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September 15, 2022, 09:15:28 PM
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This Thursday a key virtual hearing was held for the case that has the selection of Ecuador since Chili ensures that the player Tri Byron Castillo in reality he is Colombian and therefore should not have disputed any of the eight games who played in the playoffs.
FIFA must make a decision in the next 20 days.
Source: https://www.americanchronicles.news/key-hearing-for-the-byron-castillo-case-the-evidence-presented-by-chile-and-what-fifa-could-decide-on-ecuador/

So in 20 days, max October 5, we will know if Ecuador will participate or not the next World Cup.
If not, Chile will be the squad to occupy the spot, I suspect they are already preparing to play.

Oct 5 is only 46 days to the first game, coincidentally Ecuardor will play the first match.

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September 15, 2022, 09:25:14 PM
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We agree, as long as the rules do not harm football fans, especially for those who attend the World Cup which will be held, there will be no problem.
Moreover, the Qatari government has relaxed the rules related to alcohol consumption during the World Cup, although with some conditions that are its provisions.
Qatar is the first country hosting the World Cup which is a Muslim country. of course it will have an impact on the strict circulation of alcoholic beverages which are forbidden for Muslims. however, the problem has been resolved with the easing agreed by the organizers.

The spectators will be allowed to drink alcohol three hours before kick-off and one hour after the final whistle, I think this is a win win solution.
Yes that would be a good solution, however everyone should respect this. And this is something I think should be a good solution.
The organizers have considered this, and of course it is adjusted to the conditions of the country where the World Cup is currently being held. Hopefully this can be accepted by all parties including football fans, and it should be.

Realistically, I really don't believe that any police in the world, and even the one in Qatar, would be able to control thousands of fans from many countries around the world, and check what exactly they drink from a bottle, water or maybe alcohol?  Grin Grin
It's simply an impossible mission and it is good that the organizers in Qatar realized this and adapted their very strict rules for the world championship.
Now fans going to Qatar have one less thing to worry about  Grin


I would be very very careful with such an assessment. When you drink a beer or anything else in California public, it costs you 200 bucks or so. Should the police catch you drinking alcohol in Qatar at a time and in a place that was not part of the agreement they now published, I am not entirely sure how that will end. They will probably be less strict with tourists especially because it is also so much about politics and public reputation, but if you ask me I prefer to get caught by the police in California over getting caught by the police in Qatar.

If I were a tourist in Qatar I would definitely avoid getting wasted and lose control in the slightest. It could even be a stupid sentence with no bad intentions that gets you into very tough and serious trouble. A sentence is not even meant the way and rather represents a typical saying could get you into trouble. I would suggest everyone to be more careful than elsewhere.
Furthermore, even if people themselves aren't drinking, they must pay attention to what their companions are doing, because if the police spots a friend of you doing something illegal, they can punish the entire group. That was already said weeks or a month ago, can't remember exactly, and it looks a really important detail to remember.

Tourists, especially the ones from Europe are seen as wealthy individuals, so I don't doubt some shady officers may try to use the local laws and their authority to earn extra cash through bribery. You are totally right by pointing out tourists should do their best to avoid any kind of issues in foreign lands.

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September 15, 2022, 11:27:20 PM
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This Thursday a key virtual hearing was held for the case that has the selection of Ecuador since Chili ensures that the player Tri Byron Castillo in reality he is Colombian and therefore should not have disputed any of the eight games who played in the playoffs.
FIFA must make a decision in the next 20 days.
Source: https://www.americanchronicles.news/key-hearing-for-the-byron-castillo-case-the-evidence-presented-by-chile-and-what-fifa-could-decide-on-ecuador/

So in 20 days, max October 5, we will know if Ecuador will participate or not the next World Cup.
If not, Chile will be the squad to occupy the spot, I suspect they are already preparing to play.

Oct 5 is only 46 days to the first game, coincidentally Ecuardor will play the first match.

Yeah, pretty much. We now have to just wait and see what happens.

Interestingly in the article they're suggesting even Peru could qualify given an scenario where they don't give a 3 - 0 victory to the opposing team. I don't think I've ever seen that sanction, but I guess there are many open ends still.

The new audio is very interesting. Let's see what they decide in the end.

This whole thing is like a telenovela  Grin

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September 16, 2022, 01:59:04 AM
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The drama has started even before the official kickoff of the tournament. If Ecuador is disqualified, then who will replace them? Peru, Chile or Colombia? There is some confusion related to this. Peru is the team that finished at the 5th place (and they lost the playoff to Australia). Colombia is in 6th and Chile is in 7th position. IMO, if Ecuador gets suspended, then the slot should be awarded to Italy, since they are the highest ranking team among all those who have failed to qualify to Qatar 2022. CONMEBOL doesn't deserve 4 slots anyway, if the member nations fight among each other like this.

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This Thursday a key virtual hearing was held for the case that has the selection of Ecuador since Chili ensures that the player Tri Byron Castillo in reality he is Colombian and therefore should not have disputed any of the eight games who played in the playoffs.
FIFA must make a decision in the next 20 days.
Source: https://www.americanchronicles.news/key-hearing-for-the-byron-castillo-case-the-evidence-presented-by-chile-and-what-fifa-could-decide-on-ecuador/

So in 20 days, max October 5, we will know if Ecuador will participate or not the next World Cup.
If not, Chile will be the squad to occupy the spot, I suspect they are already preparing to play.

Oct 5 is only 46 days to the first game, coincidentally Ecuardor will play the first match.

I believe that, unfortunately, Ecuador should be eliminated from the World Cup.

To make matters worse, Byron Castillo decided not to attend the FIFA hearing that he may decide to exclude Ecuador, and this must have made FIFA even angrier.

I even agree that Chile and Peru may be creating a disproportionate controversy, but the absence of Bryon Castillo to clarify the facts is very poorly seen by all who accompany football.

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This Thursday a key virtual hearing was held for the case that has the selection of Ecuador since Chili ensures that the player Tri Byron Castillo in reality he is Colombian and therefore should not have disputed any of the eight games who played in the playoffs.
FIFA must make a decision in the next 20 days.
Source: https://www.americanchronicles.news/key-hearing-for-the-byron-castillo-case-the-evidence-presented-by-chile-and-what-fifa-could-decide-on-ecuador/

So in 20 days, max October 5, we will know if Ecuador will participate or not the next World Cup.
If not, Chile will be the squad to occupy the spot, I suspect they are already preparing to play.

Oct 5 is only 46 days to the first game, coincidentally Ecuardor will play the first match.

I believe that, unfortunately, Ecuador should be eliminated from the World Cup.

To make matters worse, Byron Castillo decided not to attend the FIFA hearing that he may decide to exclude Ecuador, and this must have made FIFA even angrier.

I even agree that Chile and Peru may be creating a disproportionate controversy, but the absence of Bryon Castillo to clarify the facts is very poorly seen by all who accompany football.
This case is one I have been aware for a very long time and I think FIFA at the time had already decided that this was not a big issue, as it is customary with them, I wonder what has happened that it has brought this issue back to the table that now they need to take an urgent decision, personally based on what I know I think Ecuador should be disqualified from the World Cup, but since we are talking about FIFA I'm not so sure this is something that will actually happen.
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This Thursday a key virtual hearing was held for the case that has the selection of Ecuador since Chili ensures that the player Tri Byron Castillo in reality he is Colombian and therefore should not have disputed any of the eight games who played in the playoffs.
FIFA must make a decision in the next 20 days.
Source: https://www.americanchronicles.news/key-hearing-for-the-byron-castillo-case-the-evidence-presented-by-chile-and-what-fifa-could-decide-on-ecuador/

So in 20 days, max October 5, we will know if Ecuador will participate or not the next World Cup.
If not, Chile will be the squad to occupy the spot, I suspect they are already preparing to play.

Oct 5 is only 46 days to the first game, coincidentally Ecuardor will play the first match.

I believe that, unfortunately, Ecuador should be eliminated from the World Cup.

To make matters worse, Byron Castillo decided not to attend the FIFA hearing that he may decide to exclude Ecuador, and this must have made FIFA even angrier.

I even agree that Chile and Peru may be creating a disproportionate controversy, but the absence of Bryon Castillo to clarify the facts is very poorly seen by all who accompany football.
The shocking confession by Byron Castillo to using a fake birth certificate was reported by Sportsmail. I also agree with your opinion. Qatar 2022 World Cup in danger of being canceled for Ecuador. As a result of Ecuador being eliminated and forfeiting all its games, Chile moves up to fourth place in the South American qualifying round. Keeping up with things is somewhat interesting at the moment.

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September 16, 2022, 07:18:16 AM
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Realistically, I really don't believe that any police in the world, and even the one in Qatar, would be able to control thousands of fans from many countries around the world, and check what exactly they drink from a bottle, water or maybe alcohol?  Grin Grin
It's simply an impossible mission and it is good that the organizers in Qatar realized this and adapted their very strict rules for the world championship.
Now fans going to Qatar have one less thing to worry about  Grin

Qatar has signed a deal with Pakistan Army and Pakistan will also take care of the security during the world cup.
I am not sure if the Pakistani force will be able to manage such a big crowd but than again - looking fwd for the great arrangements.
This is a solution taken, when on the day when the World Cup is held there will definitely be something unexpected. We all know that everyone will respond differently to the rules that are enforced, some do comply and vice versa. It was quite difficult to control the number of people who would attend. But how do we hope that everything that is published is as desired.

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Realistically, I really don't believe that any police in the world, and even the one in Qatar, would be able to control thousands of fans from many countries around the world, and check what exactly they drink from a bottle, water or maybe alcohol?  Grin Grin
It's simply an impossible mission and it is good that the organizers in Qatar realized this and adapted their very strict rules for the world championship.
Now fans going to Qatar have one less thing to worry about  Grin

Qatar has signed a deal with Pakistan Army and Pakistan will also take care of the security during the world cup.
I am not sure if the Pakistani force will be able to manage such a big crowd but than again - looking fwd for the great arrangements.
This is a solution taken, when on the day when the World Cup is held there will definitely be something unexpected. We all know that everyone will respond differently to the rules that are enforced, some do comply and vice versa. It was quite difficult to control the number of people who would attend. But how do we hope that everything that is published is as desired.
When things are planned and managed without flaws it is possible to overcome the unexpected problems that arise. There is very low chances of some problems, because the requirements were the tickets and the security check. Only the audience with ticket will be allowed after security check. So, the crowd management isn't a problem as the number of visitors were already known.

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The drama has started even before the official kickoff of the tournament. If Ecuador is disqualified, then who will replace them? Peru, Chile or Colombia? There is some confusion related to this. Peru is the team that finished at the 5th place (and they lost the playoff to Australia). Colombia is in 6th and Chile is in 7th position.

To understand better:
Peru finished in 4th place, but if Ecuador loses the spot, it will lose the points to another teams, 8 matches to be precise.
The new chart will put Chile in 4 th place, so the spot would be to Chile, not Peru.

I believe that, unfortunately, Ecuador should be eliminated from the World Cup.

To be honest, I think FIFA will punish the player Byron Castillo, he will pay some fines, be out of a lot of matches, but FIFA will keep Ecuador on World Cup.
If Fifa decides to punish Ecuador, Peru and another teams will probably see a chance to fight to the spot and will be more complicated.

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To be honest, I think FIFA will punish the player Byron Castillo, he will pay some fines, be out of a lot of matches, but FIFA will keep Ecuador on World Cup.
If Fifa decides to punish Ecuador, Peru and another teams will probably see a chance to fight to the spot and will be more complicated.

The rules are very clear. If FIFA concludes that Byron Castillo is ineligible to play for Ecuador, then they will be disqualified and prohibited from participating in the world cup. And all their qualifying matches will be awarded to the opposing team by a margin of 0-3. But as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, the chances are low. FIFA has already made the decision, and this time it is an appeal by Chile. Chances of the previous ruling getting overturned are not large, given the previous history of similar incidents.

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To be honest, I think FIFA will punish the player Byron Castillo, he will pay some fines, be out of a lot of matches, but FIFA will keep Ecuador on World Cup.
If Fifa decides to punish Ecuador, Peru and another teams will probably see a chance to fight to the spot and will be more complicated.

The rules are very clear. If FIFA concludes that Byron Castillo is ineligible to play for Ecuador, then they will be disqualified and prohibited from participating in the world cup. And all their qualifying matches will be awarded to the opposing team by a margin of 0-3. But as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, the chances are low. FIFA has already made the decision, and this time it is an appeal by Chile. Chances of the previous ruling getting overturned are not large, given the previous history of similar incidents.

FIFA has rejected Chile's request to ban their South American opponents Ecuador from the World Cup, despite Chile's appeal, FIFA allowed Ecuador to participate in the Qatar World Cup and FIFA has confirmed Ecuador's presence at the tournament.

With evidence showing Byron Castillo was born in Colombia, Chile argued that Castillo was not eligible to play for Ecuador and called for action that would allow Chile to take Ecuador's place in the competition. The FIFA Appeals Committee, however, has ended the legal action brought against the Ecuadorian Football Federation (FEF).
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FIFA has rejected Chile's request to ban their South American opponents Ecuador from the World Cup, despite Chile's appeal, FIFA allowed Ecuador to participate in the Qatar World Cup and FIFA has confirmed Ecuador's presence at the tournament.

With evidence showing Byron Castillo was born in Colombia, Chile argued that Castillo was not eligible to play for Ecuador and called for action that would allow Chile to take Ecuador's place in the competition. The FIFA Appeals Committee, however, has ended the legal action brought against the Ecuadorian Football Federation (FEF).

It looks like this saga will continue still....

The Chilean soccer federation will appeal against FIFA’s verdict to CAS in Lausanne, Switzerland.  Sport’s highest court can organize an urgent hearing and ruling in the nine weeks left until the World Cup starts.

“It is a sad day for soccer and for fair play. The message is clear — tricks are allowed,” Chilean federation lawyer Eduardo Carlezzo said, adding “there is an enormous amount of documents which prove that the player undoubtedly was born in Colombia.”

This is the last step though. Whatever the next outcome is, that's going to be final.

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To be honest, I think FIFA will punish the player Byron Castillo, he will pay some fines, be out of a lot of matches, but FIFA will keep Ecuador on World Cup.
If Fifa decides to punish Ecuador, Peru and another teams will probably see a chance to fight to the spot and will be more complicated.

The rules are very clear. If FIFA concludes that Byron Castillo is ineligible to play for Ecuador, then they will be disqualified and prohibited from participating in the world cup. And all their qualifying matches will be awarded to the opposing team by a margin of 0-3. But as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, the chances are low. FIFA has already made the decision, and this time it is an appeal by Chile. Chances of the previous ruling getting overturned are not large, given the previous history of similar incidents.

I don't think there will be a problem at the Ecuador.  Even if Chile objects, I think nothing will change.  Fifa has already openly denied this application.  It is now almost guaranteed that they will take part in the tournament.  One of the teams I want to have successful matches in the tournament is Ecuador.

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Hopefully now this scandal will be put to an end. I was sad to see the Peru football association siding with Chile and joining the appeal process. Appeals committee has decided in favor of Ecuador. Chile and Peru should have backed out by now, but they have decided to take this to the next stage. Chilean officials are saying that they will take this matter to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). I am not sure about this. Can the CAS force FIFA to suspend Ecuador? If that is the case, then how can we say that FIFA is an autonomous body?

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FIFA has rejected Chile's request to ban their South American opponents Ecuador from the World Cup, despite Chile's appeal, FIFA allowed Ecuador to participate in the Qatar World Cup and FIFA has confirmed Ecuador's presence at the tournament.

With evidence showing Byron Castillo was born in Colombia, Chile argued that Castillo was not eligible to play for Ecuador and called for action that would allow Chile to take Ecuador's place in the competition. The FIFA Appeals Committee, however, has ended the legal action brought against the Ecuadorian Football Federation (FEF).

It looks like this saga will continue still....

The Chilean soccer federation will appeal against FIFA’s verdict to CAS in Lausanne, Switzerland.  Sport’s highest court can organize an urgent hearing and ruling in the nine weeks left until the World Cup starts.

“It is a sad day for soccer and for fair play. The message is clear — tricks are allowed,” Chilean federation lawyer Eduardo Carlezzo said, adding “there is an enormous amount of documents which prove that the player undoubtedly was born in Colombia.”

This is the last step though. Whatever the next outcome is, that's going to be final.
I guess that FIFA going to do whatever it can to save its face aka Eduardo will be able to join the World Cup. But Chile will make sure it is costly for both FIFA and Eduardo. If another jurisdiction from any international football committee verifies that Chile's claim about Castillo was born in Colombia is true, both FIFA and Eduardo going to lose every credibility they have. Sent a strong message around the world that FIFA is so crocked to allow nations to cheat at the World Cup level.
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September 17, 2022, 11:31:01 AM
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1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.
1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.  Smiley
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1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.
1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.  Smiley
You have a good list of candidates for the title but somehow I don't think Portugal will be able to go that far in the future, I personally see that England might just suffer the same fate as last Euro 2020 which was only runner up or maybe even lower later , for the Qatar world cup, I believe more that the young Spanish squad will be able to talk a lot later because so far the performance of Spain which is filled with the majority of young players looks quite potential, while for the championship of course Brazil and Germany are my choices to enter the final.

My prediction:
1st place: Brazil / Germany
2nd place: England or Spain
3rd place: France

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September 17, 2022, 12:06:14 PM
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1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.
1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.  Smiley
The expectation over the team keeps varying with time. For now it is Germany to win. Other than Germany Brazil is in the order next to Germany. Portugal is expected to play good, but the dependence over individual player won't succeed all the time. England have got fair chance, but it had won in the 1966 world cup and it is the only title. Compared to those days, now the teams have got great improvement which makes every match more competing.

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September 17, 2022, 01:42:38 PM
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1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.
1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.  Smiley
You have a good list of candidates for the title but somehow I don't think Portugal will be able to go that far in the future, I personally see that England might just suffer the same fate as last Euro 2020 which was only runner up or maybe even lower later , for the Qatar world cup, I believe more that the young Spanish squad will be able to talk a lot later because so far the performance of Spain which is filled with the majority of young players looks quite potential, while for the championship of course Brazil and Germany are my choices to enter the final.

My prediction:
1st place: Brazil / Germany
2nd place: England or Spain
3rd place: France
My prediction is:
1st place: Spain/Germany
2nd place: France
3rd place: Brazil
Although Portugal as speculated will go far, I don't think they have as much quality as the Spanish, Brazilian or French sides. So many young players in current major leagues around the world come from these region and play fantastic football at the moment. Unless injuries or cases such as is the case of Ecuador right now, it would be tough to win sides packed with these stars.

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