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It seems to me that we will be able to see when stocks run out, since in any case they are there for the next couple of years, it is difficult to talk about this topic. But the problem of sharing resources will of course economically kill the whole world in general.
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^^^ I don't know from where you get this story of Russia selling it's crude at $35 per barrel. At this point, the Indian refiners are purchasing Urals at very close to the market rate. The FOB price is around $65, and another $20 per barrel gets added to it in the form of freight and insurance. So in total we are paying around $85 per barrel for the Urals crude. The crude from Saudi costs around $92 per barrel, including freight and insurance. So the difference is now very minimal. And although some of the banks are refusing to make the payments, there are plenty of alternate options available.
That's exactly what I'm talking about! A naive layman in India is told "yes, we buy at 100+ dollars per barrel, but there is a crisis in the world and a wild shortage of oil, because all the world's oil depends on Russia, you UNDERSTAND!". After that, they make such smart and tense faces, and go into their offices to laugh at gullible citizens, and count their excess profits. And there is something to consider: 70 dollars of the declared price minus 35 dollars of the real = 35 dollars per barrel into your pocket. In invented you are only 35 dollars deceived? No ! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And then plus $ 35 per barrel in the form of final gasoline or diesel fuel that you fill your vehicles with. Well, because oil is expensive! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And of course - there is no price of 30-35 dollars, no ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ))))
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It seems to me that we will be able to see when stocks run out, since in any case they are there for the next couple of years, it is difficult to talk about this topic. But the problem of sharing resources will of course economically kill the whole world in general.
Last winter was relatively mild, and therefore the demand for natural gas was low. It needs to be seen how the demand will go up from October this year, but as of now the prices are comparable to those in 2021-22. On top of that, countries such as Germany have restarted coal-fired powerplants, thereby reducing the dependence on natural gas. Only visible impact has been on the automobile and heavy engineering industries within Europe, but then it was just a matter of time for them. Heavy engineering was never viable in Europe, since the labor costs are much higher compared to those in China. Shortage of natural gas just accelerated the impending death of this sector.
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And here are the new data! India, feeling the breath of sanctions on the back of its head, changed the scheme of working with oil from the country of the terrorist. Now India will buy oil from Russia, all at the dumping price. Then he processes it into a final product and takes it to the EU ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Nothing personal - only business... Russian oil continues to flow to Europe through third countries despite EU sanctions - Spiegel. According to the publication, at least two tankers with Russian oil arrive at Indian ports every day, that's 70 tankers per month. After a certain time, part of this oil enters the EU in a processed form. The only positive part of this project is that Russia does not receive super profits to finance the terrorist war it has started.
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As you are arguing over the price India pays for oil, the war in Ukraine entered the next level as the nuclear munitions started being shipped to Ukraine by UK and US. Apart from the environmental disaster the recent destruction of a shipment caused to both Ukraine and Eastern Europe, this could mean Russia could start using similar munitions.
Basically these things are worst that a nuclear bomb with long term effects. As an example you can check out Iraq where United States largely used depleted uranium munitions; 300 tons in total (by comparison the nuke US dropped on Japan was only 4 ton). The city of Al-Fallujah in Iraq is now known as Chernobyl 2.0 because of the level of radiation and the lingering effects of it. That means my prediction over a year ago that US is trying to turn Ukraine into Afghanistan so that Russia experiences what US experience in Afghanistan (being stuck for 20 years and escaping eventually), is coming true but it is a combination of Afghanistan and Iraq .
P.S. It is interesting that NATO denies Ukraine a lot of conventional weapons such as fighter jets, any missile with a range higher than 200-300 km, tanks, decent air defense, tactical weapons such as cruise missiles, etc. but instead they send them the disastrous nuclear munitions!
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As you are arguing over the price India pays for oil, the war in Ukraine entered the next level as the nuclear munitions started being shipped to Ukraine by UK and US. Apart from the environmental disaster the recent destruction of a shipment caused to both Ukraine and Western Europe, this could mean Russia could start using similar munitions.
Basically these things are worst that a nuclear bomb with long term effects. As an example you can check out Iraq where United States largely used depleted uranium munitions; 300 tons in total (by comparison the nuke US dropped on Japan was only 4 ton). The city of Al-Fallujah in Iraq is now known as Chernobyl 2.0 because of the level of radiation and the lingering effects of it. That means my prediction over a year ago that US is trying to turn Ukraine into Afghanistan so that Russia experiences what US experience in Afghanistan (being stuck for 20 years and escaping eventually), is coming true but it is a combination of Afghanistan and Iraq .
P.S. It is interesting that NATO denies Ukraine a lot of conventional weapons such as fighter jets, any missile with a range higher than 200-300 km, tanks, decent air defense, tactical weapons such as cruise missiles, etc. but instead they send them the disastrous nuclear munitions!
Depleted uranium projectiles are not nuclear or chemical weapons, so their use is not prohibited by international conventions. They are in service with a number of countries. During the Gulf War in the early 1990s, an international coalition used about 780,000 of these shells against Iraq. In total, up to 300 tons of depleted uranium were used. During the invasion of Iraq in 2003, about 300,000 more rounds were fired. In addition, the US Army used them during operations in Kosovo and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Then about 40,000 shells were fired. The use of depleted uranium in ammunition is associated with its properties - high mass density, due to which depleted uranium shells provide high armor-piercing action (due to an increase in kinetic energy) and cause significant damage beyond the barrier, which ultimately determines their effectiveness. Projectiles with depleted uranium can penetrate armor up to 700 mm. The radioactivity of depleted uranium can be about 60% of normal, natural uranium. And the level is so low that dosimeters do not react to it. According to a study by a working group of the Royal Society of Great Britain, the health risks due to the use of such projectiles are extremely low. The US Pentagon notes that there is not a single confirmed case of cancer. Previously, there were various reports of allegedly dozens of dead and sick with cancer of Italian veterans who took part in the fighting in the Balkans. Official studies have denied the growth of cancer among the military. The UN investigation also confirmed that the use of depleted uranium in the Balkans did not affect the environment or the population. Scientists from Italy revealed an increased content of uranium in the soil, which, however, did not exceed the permissible limits. World Health Organization (WHO) calculations show that the maximum exposure to depleted uranium particles in the body is less than half of the annual dose limit for people who work in radiation conditions. And the risk of leukemia may increase by no more than 2%. According to the IAEA conclusions, the radiological threat to the population and nature from the use of such munitions is not significant. It seems that Russian stuffing is designed for the sensitivity of the topic of weapons with uranium. Spinning fakes, Russian propaganda prefers not to remember that such ammunition is in service with the Russian Armed Forces. We are talking, in particular, about the Lead-1 projectiles, which also contain a core with depleted uranium. And they are included in the ammunition load of the T-80BVM, T-90 and T-72B3 tanks. In addition, Ukraine does not have much choice: Russia is waging a war to destroy Ukraine as a state and the Ukrainian people as a nation. If Russia is afraid of the use of shells with depleted uranium on their armored vehicles, it can end the war any day by withdrawing its troops and equipment from the territory of Ukraine.
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As you are arguing over the price India pays for oil, the war in Ukraine entered the next level as the nuclear munitions started being shipped to Ukraine by UK and US. Apart from the environmental disaster the recent destruction of a shipment caused to both Ukraine and Western Europe, this could mean Russia could start using similar munitions.
Basically these things are worst that a nuclear bomb with long term effects. As an example you can check out Iraq where United States largely used depleted uranium munitions; 300 tons in total (by comparison the nuke US dropped on Japan was only 4 ton). The city of Al-Fallujah in Iraq is now known as Chernobyl 2.0 because of the level of radiation and the lingering effects of it. That means my prediction over a year ago that US is trying to turn Ukraine into Afghanistan so that Russia experiences what US experience in Afghanistan (being stuck for 20 years and escaping eventually), is coming true but it is a combination of Afghanistan and Iraq .
P.S. It is interesting that NATO denies Ukraine a lot of conventional weapons such as fighter jets, any missile with a range higher than 200-300 km, tanks, decent air defense, tactical weapons such as cruise missiles, etc. but instead they send them the disastrous nuclear munitions!
It was a British supply, but now everything is in the past - shells with depleted uranium for 500 million dollars took off a week ago after hitting a warehouse near Khmelnitsky. Now this is the problem of Poland and Romania, where the wind blew away a finely dispersed radioactive cloud.
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Another pathetic attempt to manipulate information ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And now I can easily prove it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Until April 2023, India bought out up to 70%, you can google it yourself. https://www.rbc.ua/ukr/news/indiya-stala-naybilshim-pokuptsem-rosiyskoyi-1675754446.htmlAfter that, India received a hint that they would not be well, because. fall under the rink of sanctions - she dropped the turnover and changed the scheme. But they are already doing this. The EU is seriously undertaking to restore order in this sector. https://zn.ua/energetics/borrel-prizval-ohranichit-import-fuel-iz-indii-pererabotannoho-iz-nefti-rf-ft.htmlDue to the impossibility of reselling, as it was until recently, India, yes, has reduced the volume of purchases. But since the beginning of 2023 - she was the leader ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) About margins - ask the respected Sithara007 - he will personally tell you how much oil products are on the local market, and how the Indian government profits from the local population, telling tales about oil at $ 100 per barrel ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) About oil at $30-35 per barrel - you will find a huge amount of information on the Internet. For example: Reuters calculations showed that discounts on Urals oil in Russia's western ports for sale to India increased to $32-35 per barrel for some transactions when freight is not included in the price. Benchmark Brent crude fluctuated below $80 a barrel in early December. At the same time, the cost of Russian oil for producers, including production, taxes and transportation costs to export ports, is about $15-45 per barrel, the agency writes, citing Deputy Energy Minister Pavel Sorokin. I'll clarify - this is with the price of oil itself not more than $60 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Can you subtract $32-35 from $60? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Oh yes. And most importantly, neither China nor India pays Russia in DOLLARS ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They pay with their candy wrappers, which Russia no longer knows what to do with, i.e. the dollar price in these deals is a FICT ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Prove the opposite? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) "In the period from February 24, 2022 to February 14, 2023, Russia earned almost 197 billion euros" is a favorite tale of Russian propagandists. But it crumbles quickly, if you look at the schedule of receipt of income in the budget of the country of a terrorist. Yes, I agree, because. it is foolish to deny the reality - at the beginning of the year, due to the economic terrorism of the EU and attempts to undermine the hydrocarbon market, Russia really earned a lot of money. But this period did not last until February 2023, but approximately until the start of the replacement of gas and oil supplies to the EU from other sources. And this is about the summer of 2022. Those. for 4 months - at the PEAK, Russia, of course, earned more than usual, and then the prices flew down ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So your fairy tale is like an indicator of the "average temperature of patients in the hospital." About the dollar: as I understand it, the main thing for you is not the meaning, and not even the content, but the sound ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We understand, on the melons from the article you cited: 1. You seem to have been turned on by this phrase "The greenback's share in global reserves slid last year at 10 times the average speed of the past two decades" 2. Although it goes on very clearly, and most importantly realistically, it states that: The US currency now accounts for about 58% of the world's total official reserves, up from 73% in 2001. But you are fantasizing yourself wetly that dollar reserves have fallen 10 times? Is it true ? And nothing bothers you in numbers? It's true ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Now try to understand what the phrase "The greenback's share in global reserves slid last year at 10 times the average speed of the past two decades" means? I suppose you did not quite understand WHAT IT IS ABOUT ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Which is not surprising at all! PS Tell me - are you a moral masochist? Do you get satisfaction from being shown as a liar in front of everyone, and not very smart at that? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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And now I can easily prove it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) References to Ukrainian resources are a rather weak argument, given their obvious bias in this matter. However, I understand your manic passion for counting the amount of money in other people's pockets, because Ukraine is now in the top 10 most miserable countries in the world according to the Telegraph.
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It was a British supply, but now everything is in the past - shells with depleted uranium for 500 million dollars took off a week ago after hitting a warehouse near Khmelnitsky. Now this is the problem of Poland and Romania, where the wind blew away a finely dispersed radioactive cloud.
What cute, wet fantasies ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )) But throw these Kremlin fakes to spread, in the hope of some kind of effect. To begin with - do you imagine how it works and how it works, an artillery shell with an element of depleted uranium? And why, in general, can't it be "undermined", and its location in the center of an ordinary explosion does not give a "cloud of radiation contamination"? This is information for you for general development: APFSDS shells have been delivered to Ukraine and transferred to the front lines (these are tank shells, for tanks of the Challenger 2 type). Study his device, and apologize for saying SUCH nonsense ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ))) You better not worry about our shells, but tell us - how are things going with the Belgorod People's Republic, which is being liberated from the Kremlin junta? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ukrainian channels are quite free, and are not interested in systemic lies like Russian channels ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So if there are inaccuracies, then they are not significant. I understand that you don't like it, but that's not my problem ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But the telegraph is the only honest, unbiased, objective publication? Well, because there is an article that you liked, I understand correctly? Come on then, everyone respects the telegraph, not selectively, but everything completely, there are a lot of interesting articles, will you also call them all the undeniable truth? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/russia/PS By the way - why did you keep silent about the entire article, for example, that Russia's strategic partner, Zimbabwe, topped this "rating"? And he said nothing that Russia is also a "leader" there, but with a low standard of living, although it has large mineral reserves in the world, a "stable economy", and "strategic world hydrocarbon reserves"? Or is it some other Russia they mean?
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It was a British supply, but now everything is in the past - shells with depleted uranium for 500 million dollars took off a week ago after hitting a warehouse near Khmelnitsky. Now this is the problem of Poland and Romania, where the wind blew away a finely dispersed radioactive cloud.
What cute, wet fantasies ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )) But throw these Kremlin fakes to spread, in the hope of some kind of effect. To begin with - do you imagine how it works and how it works, an artillery shell with an element of depleted uranium? And why, in general, can't it be "undermined", and its location in the center of an ordinary explosion does not give a "cloud of radiation contamination"? This is information for you for general development: APFSDS shells have been delivered to Ukraine and transferred to the front lines (these are tank shells, for tanks of the Challenger 2 type). Study his device, and apologize for saying SUCH nonsense ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ))) Would you like to say that a sharp surge in the concentration of bismuth, recorded by an air radioactivity monitor in Lublin, is definitely not a product of the decay of depleted uranium from British shells from an exploded warehouse near Khmelnitsky? Well, then the Poles definitely have nothing to worry about. In vain they panicked and bought up all the iodine tablets in pharmacies.
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Ukrainian channels are quite free, and are not interested in systemic lies like Russian channels ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So if there are inaccuracies, then they are not significant. I understand that you don't like it, but that's not my problem ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You made my day! Hilarious! Ukraine is at war with Russia. Any article being published is thoroughly checked and altered the way it would cause most damage to Russia. The same happens in Russia. Being "free" and "independent" and publishing any truth in favor of opponent will lead to actions like banning, closing etc. It's called propaganda. Same thing happened during WW2 and before that. So, my little retarded friend, no articles from .ua websites. It's 1000% propaganda. Remember Mariupol? UA news outlets didn't report it was captured by Russians for weeks. Wait, are you aware Bakhmut has fallen to the Russians? Sorry, if it was a spoiler for you. You'll probably find out next week! But the telegraph is the only honest, unbiased, objective publication? Well, because there is an article that you liked, I understand correctly? Come on then, everyone respects the telegraph, not selectively, but everything completely, there are a lot of interesting articles, will you also call them all the undeniable truth? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/russia/Placing this vague link here doesn't count. Please quote the article on topic and place a link to the source below. This is how it works.
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What remarkable successes, economically! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Gazprom's decision not to pay dividends for the first time in almost 25 years dropped the company's shares by a third, approximately to the levels of the first days since the beginning of the "special operation". Analysts do not see drivers of significant growth if the status quo is maintained - in their opinion, Gazprom will now focus on financing investment projects from its own funds, and dividends will take a back seat. This will also affect the image of the market as a whole - investors have once again been convinced that "sudden things" can happen in any stock What's happened The main intrigue of the dividend season on the Russian market was resolved unexpectedly and extremely disappointed investors. Shareholders of Gazprom (50.23% of the share capital is controlled by the state) decided at the absentee annual meeting on June 30 that the company will not pay dividends at the end of 2021. The shares of the gas monopoly reacted to the first non-payment of dividends since 1998 with an instant collapse.
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Wait, are you aware Bakhmut has fallen to the Russians? Sorry, if it was a spoiler for you. You'll probably find out next week!
The message of the head of Wagner PMC Prigozhin and Russian propagandists that their "second army of the world" after ten months of incessant attacks on the small town of Bakhmut, finally took it, does not correspond to reality. Most of Bakhmut is now indeed controlled by the Russian occupiers, but its defenders retain control over some industrial and infrastructure facilities and the private sector of Bakhmut in an area called "Airplane" in the southwestern part of Bakhmut. But it is too early for Russians to rejoice. Having retreated from the central part of the city, the Armed Forces of Ukraine organized a “half-boiler plan” for the invaders in Bakhmut and now they “take” the enemy into a semi-circle due to the advantage of control over the high-altitude terrain surrounding this city. The Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully bypass Bakhmut from the north and south and gradually, taking into account the dry weather, begin to implement the operational encirclement of the Russians in Bakhmut using heavy equipment. Given that the city is located in a lowland, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the ability to actually shoot the enemy from artillery from the hills around Bakhmut, and it is rather difficult for Russians to hide in its ruins, since the city is almost completely destroyed. Moreover, even such a temporary success of the Russians in Bakhmut is rather doubtful. Prigozhin himself recently said that more than 20,000 of his PMCs were killed during the storming of Bakhmut: about 10,000 of its professional members and the same number of recruited prisoners from Russian colonies. But the human rights organization of Russia "Seated Rus'" claims that there were about 50 thousand prisoners recruited for the war in Ukraine, about five thousand of them received an amnesty and returned home, and over 40 thousand died in Ukraine. And recently, US President Biden pointed out that Russia lost about a hundred thousand military personnel near Bakhmut. Thus, several square kilometers of the ruins of the district center Bakhmut cost Russia very dearly. But the Russians will still need to be able to get out of Bakhmut. Prigozhin has already announced that from June 1, his PMC will leave Bakhmut and give up their positions to the regular army. He feels that this "Pyrrhic" victory may soon turn into a major defeat. So the fighting in Bakhmut continues.
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According to a study by a working group of the Royal Society of Great Britain, the health risks due to the use of such projectiles are extremely low. The US Pentagon notes that there is not a single confirmed case of cancer.
ROFL. It is like the thief who was caught red-handed but was saying he is innocent. In any case you comment was priceless, it made me laugh so hard. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It was a British supply, but now everything is in the past - shells with depleted uranium for 500 million dollars took off a week ago after hitting a warehouse near Khmelnitsky. Now this is the problem of Poland and Romania, where the wind blew away a finely dispersed radioactive cloud. Yeah, that's the supply I was talking about although considering the huge amount of contradictory propaganda that were spread about this cloud I hesitate to bring it up. Besides there are far bigger problems involved in the long term after the usage of these nuclear munitions start. From the water that runs through Ukraine to the grains they farm and may want to ship out abroad. I do hope the global market takes this into consideration.
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"Ukraine is at war with Russia. Any published article is carefully checked and redone so that it causes the greatest damage to Russia." 1. I have the feeling that I am reading news from the hospital for the mentally disabled ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) By the way - tell me the facts - who checks and redoes it? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 2. Ukraine defends itself from a terrorist attack, an international terrorist state, and an aggressor recognized by the international community, led by a criminal. 3. The greatest harm to Russia was caused by the Kremlin junta and supporters of racism ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 4. So you don't want to just read the articles published in Tegeraf about Russia - this is normal for supporters of the "Russian world" - fear of knowing the truth ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) PS About the total control of the mass media - don't measure everyone by yourself and your habits ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ))
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Wait, are you aware Bakhmut has fallen to the Russians? Sorry, if it was a spoiler for you. You'll probably find out next week!
The message of the head of Wagner PMC Prigozhin and Russian propagandists that their "second army of the world" after ten months of incessant attacks on the small town of Bakhmut, finally took it, does not correspond to reality. Most of Bakhmut is now indeed controlled by the Russian occupiers, but its defenders retain control over some industrial and infrastructure facilities and the private sector of Bakhmut in an area called "Airplane" in the southwestern part of Bakhmut. You are delusional. President Zelensky has admitted Bahmut has fallen by saying "Bakhmut is only in our hearts". https://nypost.com/2023/05/21/zelensky-bakhmut-is-only-in-our-hearts-after-ukraine-loses-control-of-destroyed-city-to-russia/Whatever your source could be, it's at least 4-5 days old. Bakhmut is under Russians now. Period. But it is too early for Russians to rejoice. Having retreated from the central part of the city, the Armed Forces of Ukraine organized a “half-boiler plan” for the invaders in Bakhmut and now they “take” the enemy into a semi-circle due to the advantage of control over the high-altitude terrain surrounding this city. The Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully bypass Bakhmut from the north and south and gradually, taking into account the dry weather, begin to implement the operational encirclement of the Russians in Bakhmut using heavy equipment. Given that the city is located in a lowland, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the ability to actually shoot the enemy from artillery from the hills around Bakhmut, and it is rather difficult for Russians to hide in its ruins, since the city is almost completely destroyed.
Possibly, but you're not providing any source so this info is hard to verify. And I believe claims that Bakhmut had been "completely destroyed" are overestimated. Same thing happened in Mariupol but it's almost completely rebuilt now. Moreover, even such a temporary success of the Russians in Bakhmut is rather doubtful. Prigozhin himself recently said that more than 20,000 of his PMCs were killed during the storming of Bakhmut: about 10,000 of its professional members and the same number of recruited prisoners from Russian colonies. But the human rights organization of Russia "Seated Rus'" claims that there were about 50 thousand prisoners recruited for the war in Ukraine, about five thousand of them received an amnesty and returned home, and over 40 thousand died in Ukraine. And recently, US President Biden pointed out that Russia lost about a hundred thousand military personnel near Bakhmut. Thus, several square kilometers of the ruins of the district center Bakhmut cost Russia very dearly. But the Russians will still need to be able to get out of Bakhmut. Prigozhin has already announced that from June 1, his PMC will leave Bakhmut and give up their positions to the regular army. He feels that this "Pyrrhic" victory may soon turn into a major defeat. So the fighting in Bakhmut continues.
Muahahaha... so you're saying 120000 Russians died there? Here's a quote from that article: "Russia has suffered more than 100,000 casualties since December fighting in the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, a White House official said Monday. National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told reporters the figure includes about 20,000 soldiers killed in combat and 80,000 wounded." So, in fact no quite: 80k have been wounded even according to this over-exaggerated casualty report and could be back in service soonish.
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Let's keep in mind some important facts from the very beginning: 1. 45% of Russia's federal budget in 2021 came from oil and natural gas revenues 2. 49% of Russia's crude oil and condensate exports went to European OECD nations. 3. Supplies from Russia account for about 40% of the EU's natural gas imports 4. just under three-quarters of all Russian natural gas exports went to European countries in 2021
I hate when everyone talks about how is Europe, especially Germany going to replace the dependence on Russian gas? Wait, 20 centuries have passed without Russian gas and European countries still managed to not only survive but become the most amazing countries with the highest quality of life.
How the fuck is Russia going to replace the European market? Russia has two options: 1. China - After Saudi Arabia, Russia is the second-largest gas & oil supplier for China. 2. India - Right now Russia accounts for 2% of Indian oil import after Iraq, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
Russia will try to increase its oil and gas export in China & India but we should also don't forget some details: 1. The reason why I underlined Saudi Arabia is that they are one of the largest suppliers in these countries and probably they won't let Russia to easily take over them. 2. China and India probably sees that good relationship with West is better for them and they may see that Russia isn't a country that loves freedom. 3. China may use this as an advantage and milk Russia like a cow, good for China but not for Russia.
Europe & USA have a huge advantage over Russia, this is the education. Where do people go dream to study? In Russia, no! In the USA, UK, Germany, Canada, France, Ireland, Switzerland and other countries? Hell yes! Were top scientists from Russia? Hell no! But from western countries - hell yes.
The fact is the fact - war has one advantage, it always accelerates things up. In this war, we don't need to focus on military equipment but on our weak sides, everyone sees how bad military equipment Russia has compared to the western countries. Don't you think that after all the innovations that come from the USA and Europe, can't we significantly lessen the demand on gas and oil if the situation really requires that from us as soon as possible?
it will be a big problem for Europe not so much for the USA, but then I do not understand all this fury and all the sanctions on Russia, in the end they only harmed Europe.
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According to a study by a working group of the Royal Society of Great Britain, the health risks due to the use of such projectiles are extremely low. The US Pentagon notes that there is not a single confirmed case of cancer.
ROFL. It is like the thief who was caught red-handed but was saying he is innocent. In any case, your comment was priceless, it made me laugh so hard. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It was a British supply, but now everything is in the past - shells with depleted uranium for 500 million dollars took off a week ago after hitting a warehouse near Khmelnitsky. Now this is the problem of Poland and Romania, where the wind blew away a finely dispersed radioactive cloud. Yeah, that's the supply I was talking about although considering the huge amount of contradictory propaganda that were spread about this cloud I hesitate to bring it up. Besides there are far bigger problems involved in the long term after the use of these nuclear munitions starts. From the water that runs through Ukraine to the grains they farm and may want to ship abroad. I do hope the global market takes this into consideration. I am particularly concerned about people with mental disabilities, which means that they are victims of propaganda, and therefore I will help you to return to a normal life a little! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Most likely, you have watched this video: https://www.tatar-inform.ru/video/uploads/f500788632b9df252e896898481f4d12.mp4Everything is definitely scary, creepy, "nuclear ash", "depleted uranium", and other wet dreams ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But there are 2 nuances. 1. I have already written to one "sufferer" about what explosives with depleted uranium were delivered and transferred to the forward units of the Armed Forces. With the indication of the model. And ask him to try to explain how it detonated SO. We are waiting for an answer, I have not received and will not ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 2. And now let's check the eyesight and the adequacy of information perception of some characters! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) - Khmelnytskyi. Yes, actually a couple of Shahed drones (supplied by the "fraternal, Russian, terrorist country" of Iran, with a warhead of 30 to 40 kg) flew to the area of the railway station. - The railway station was working at the moment, and even the next day after the terrorist attack ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) - You saw the scale of the explosion according to the "cartoon". and here questions arise for a normal person (no, no, it’s not about you yet): 1. How did 2-3 Shaheda, with a warhead of 3x40 kg, create such an explosion? 2. Artillery charges from depleted uranium do not detonate. And this becomes clear to any adequate person who looks at their construction. 3. And... doesn't squint bother you? By chance? Or selectively? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) To explain the last question, a couple of facts: 3.1. Open the map of Khmelnytskyi. With heights and relief. Learn. Even a "street survey" to understand the topography of the city. 3.2. And this is, as it were, a shot of an "explosion". Are you not embarrassed that Mr. Khmelnytskyi, according to your imagination, is built at an angle of approximately 20 degrees, despite the fact that it is actually low and quite "flat" in relief? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )))) I specially drew lines - the lines of the direction of the explosion and the horizon. Nothing bothers you? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FxqrwFCLN%2F2023-05-25-00-39-09.png&t=665&c=sJMyYr8QrbdATQ) Russian propagandists work "from the heart", but as always, very poorly, and habitually steal money allocated for propaganda videos ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) PS And next - look, for example, about the explosion of a warehouse with ordinary saltpetre (not "nuclear charges, worth 500 million dollars"), and what kind of destruction was in the city. At a smaller size, the "mushroom" is an explosion. At the global destruction of the city! Although the explosion occurred in the water area of the port, and not in the CENTER OF THE CITY, as with the arrival of the Shahedov couple in Khmelnytskyi, where the railway station is in the center of the city!... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lat-An3kQsMhttps://youtu.be/hvqTu381iGYWell, as expected - I will return to the thread of the topic, after exposing another cheap and primitive fake ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And so about Russia's new economic "victories" ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) - The EU will transfer more than 700 million euros of profits from Russia's frozen assets to Ukraine - May 25 (Reuters) - European stocks steadied on Thursday after their biggest two-day decline since March, as strong corporate reports offset concerns about the standoff over the U.S. debt ceiling - In Russia, there was a shortage of high-class managers after the start of the war in Ukraine and the mass departure of Russians abroad. Companies involved in oil production, metals, chemical production and agribusiness lack top managers - MOSCOW, May 25 (Reuters) - Gas production in the Russian Federation in January-April decreased by 10.15% in annual terms to 235 billion cubic meters. In April, gas production decreased by 10.3% compared to the same period last year.
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Wait, are you aware Bakhmut has fallen to the Russians? Sorry, if it was a spoiler for you. You'll probably find out next week!
The message of the head of Wagner PMC Prigozhin and Russian propagandists that their "second army of the world" after ten months of incessant attacks on the small town of Bakhmut, finally took it, does not correspond to reality. Most of Bakhmut is now indeed controlled by the Russian occupiers, but its defenders retain control over some industrial and infrastructure facilities and the private sector of Bakhmut in an area called "Airplane" in the southwestern part of Bakhmut. You are delusional. President Zelensky has admitted Bahmut has fallen by saying "Bakhmut is only in our hearts". https://nypost.com/2023/05/21/zelensky-bakhmut-is-only-in-our-hearts-after-ukraine-loses-control-of-destroyed-city-to-russia/Whatever your source could be, it's at least 4-5 days old. Bakhmut is under Russians now. Period. But it is too early for Russians to rejoice. Having retreated from the central part of the city, the Armed Forces of Ukraine organized a “half-boiler plan” for the invaders in Bakhmut and now they “take” the enemy into a semi-circle due to the advantage of control over the high-altitude terrain surrounding this city. The Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully bypass Bakhmut from the north and south and gradually, taking into account the dry weather, begin to implement the operational encirclement of the Russians in Bakhmut using heavy equipment. Given that the city is located in a lowland, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the ability to actually shoot the enemy from artillery from the hills around Bakhmut, and it is rather difficult for Russians to hide in its ruins, since the city is almost completely destroyed.
Possibly, but you're not providing any source so this info is hard to verify. And I believe claims that Bakhmut had been "completely destroyed" are overestimated. Same thing happened in Mariupol but it's almost completely rebuilt now. If you carefully read the text to which you refer with the quoted words of Zelensky that Bakhmut is only in our hearts, then the following is indicated there: “For today, Bakhmut is only in our hearts,” he said. “There is nothing in this place.” The Russian ministry statement on the Telegram channel came about eight hours after a similar claim by Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin. Ukrainian authorities at that time said fighting for Bakhmut was continuing." That is, after these words, the President of Ukraine Zelensky added: "There is nothing in this place." This indicates that Zelensky, saying that Bakhmut is only in our hearts, meant that he was actually completely destroyed, and not captured by Russian troops. This conclusion is confirmed by the fact that further, behind these words, it is written: "The Ukrainian authorities at that time declared that the battles for Bakhmut were continuing." The fact that the battles for Bakhmut continue can now be heard and seen in various news channels, and I see no reason to give confirmation of this. We will hear and see about this for a long time until he is finally liberated from the Russian invaders. Your statement that Mariupol is now almost completely rebuilt is also not true. Mariupol was surrounded by Russian troops during the early days of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, which began on February 24, 2022. Since the beginning of March, it has been under blockade, since the second half of May, the city has been in complete occupation. About 130,000 people remained in Mariupol at the beginning of August. Before the full-scale invasion, 530 thousand people lived in the city. According to various estimates, between 20,000 and 25,000 civilians died during his "liberation" by the Russians; there is no exact data. The Russians damaged by shelling 1800 high-rise buildings in Mariupol. The occupiers have identified 934 buildings that are gradually being demolished, 400 houses have already been completely destroyed, 50% of the city no longer exists. In order to hide from the world community the fact of the destruction of this city, the invaders continue to destroy Mariupol by thoughtless demolition of houses, leaving Mariupol residents without housing and things. Nearly the only miraculously surviving house, which was built before the full-scale invasion as SBU official housing, the occupiers are now passing off as built by them. A few other houses are just being repainted without any major repairs. That's all the publicized restoration of the city of Mariupol.
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