PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded!

[carlisle1]

There's news recently that there are still hard-headed operators who are doing and operating online cockfighting. The authorities were able to hunt them down but their registered players are just a few since it's risky to make marketing for it by those agents. People are also questioning the legitimacy of these operators that's why they are hesitant to bet.

And there's also news that the upcoming new PH government will totally ban online cockfighting for good and that was favored by the majority.

Not so surprising since there are operators who are willing to operate, even the government already suspend the permit to operate

of any gambling owners in terms of E-Sabong, illegal operators know that even in small portions of gamblers, there is still huge money

that they can collect. We can't conclude but the chance that known personalities and PNP officials might still be behind those illegal operations

they already taste the success of this business. It can bring millions in their pockets.

[Hypnosis00]

There's news recently that there are still hard-headed operators who are doing and operating online cockfighting. The authorities were able to hunt them down but their registered players are just a few since it's risky to make marketing for it by those agents. People are also questioning the legitimacy of these operators that's why they are hesitant to bet.

And there's also news that the upcoming new PH government will totally ban online cockfighting for good and that was favored by the majority.

Not so surprising since there are operators who are willing to operate, even the government already suspend the permit to operate

of any gambling owners in terms of E-Sabong, illegal operators know that even in small portions of gamblers, there is still huge money

that they can collect. We can't conclude but the chance that known personalities and PNP officials might still be behind those illegal operations

they already taste the success of this business. It can bring millions in their pockets.

Some gamblers will still look for illegal e-sabong, operators would not operate if they don't have the expected audience. I'm sure that while they are operating, they are also careful not to get caught as you know how strict the current administration in implementing the law.

[freedomgo]

The risk of animals getting tortured is actually the same with ones who are just racing with each other just like horse racing, these horses are trained in harsh conditions in additional of using some whip to discipline the horses. So, it's still an animal cruelty but does the people or government care about this? I think the answer would be, NO.

These horses are trained in a well-developed environment. There's no way the horse owners who are putting big money here and in the end, will do some bad treatment on their horses.  Contrary to what are you saying, they will do everything to make these horses fit in the race.

You as an owner for example and spending lots of money on your horse, do you want your horse to be trained in a harsh condition? Of course, no.

How can you win if you will treat your horses badly during the preparation time?

Yes they are trained in a well-developed environment but the way they train these horse will vary to the trainers and that didn't take out the fact using some hard measures or we can say in a harsh condition just to make the horse fit on the race. Whether we like it or not, that's the reality and if you're not agreeing on these measures then I think the owner can do it by himself.

You as an owner for example and spending lots of money on your horse, do you want your horse to be trained in a harsh condition? Of course, no.

I do think that you're referring to a pet horse and not a race horse, there's a big difference on it.

[Kelvinid]

There's news recently that there are still hard-headed operators who are doing and operating online cockfighting. The authorities were able to hunt them down but their registered players are just a few since it's risky to make marketing for it by those agents. People are also questioning the legitimacy of these operators that's why they are hesitant to bet.

And there's also news that the upcoming new PH government will totally ban online cockfighting for good and that was favored by the majority.

Not so surprising since there are operators who are willing to operate, even the government already suspend the permit to operate

of any gambling owners in terms of E-Sabong, illegal operators know that even in small portions of gamblers, there is still huge money

that they can collect. We can't conclude but the chance that known personalities and PNP officials might still be behind those illegal operations

they already taste the success of this business. It can bring millions in their pockets.

Some gamblers will still look for illegal e-sabong, operators would not operate if they don't have the expected audience. I'm sure that while they are operating, they are also careful not to get caught as you know how strict the current administration in implementing the law.

I'm not surprised because prior to the legalization of e-sabong, there are plenty of illegal online sabong operators already, and the fact that they are not caught, gives me the impression that the government is not exerting enough effort to stop it. However, now that they already have an idea of how big the amount of money the operators are making, I think they'll work harder on this to eradicate this problem.

[Quidat]

There's news recently that there are still hard-headed operators who are doing and operating online cockfighting. The authorities were able to hunt them down but their registered players are just a few since it's risky to make marketing for it by those agents. People are also questioning the legitimacy of these operators that's why they are hesitant to bet.

And there's also news that the upcoming new PH government will totally ban online cockfighting for good and that was favored by the majority.

Not so surprising since there are operators who are willing to operate, even the government already suspend the permit to operate

of any gambling owners in terms of E-Sabong, illegal operators know that even in small portions of gamblers, there is still huge money

that they can collect. We can't conclude but the chance that known personalities and PNP officials might still be behind those illegal operations

they already taste the success of this business. It can bring millions in their pockets.

Some gamblers will still look for illegal e-sabong, operators would not operate if they don't have the expected audience. I'm sure that while they are operating, they are also careful not to get caught as you know how strict the current administration in implementing the law.

I'm not surprised because prior to the legalization of e-sabong, there are plenty of illegal online sabong operators already, and the fact that they are not caught, gives me the impression that the government is not exerting enough effort to stop it. However, now that they already have an idea of how big the amount of money the operators are making, I think they'll work harder on this to eradicate this problem.

Not working harder? No one knows because if we do consider the accessibility or simply the tech as of today then completely stopping nor get rid of them 100% cant really be possible.
You cant just make out some conclusions that government hadnt done their job well for them not able to stop those illegal operators but pretty much sure that this isnt something
simple where it could really be done on an instant in a complete manner in terms of those conclusions in mind by their government.

[SirLancelot]

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.

E sabong are not like the casino game where our enemy is the casino owner but on e sabong two parties are fighting for each other but I think the platform where this game is held only gets a small commission. It was the traditional casino is the one that is harder to win but in e sabong, your chance to win is high if you are good at analyzing the cocks. Poor or rich, it only depends if they are responsible on playing a gambling.

It can help them earn some if they are lucky or like I said earlier if they are skillful enough and also it makes them relieve their stress after a whole day of working. If only they play it this way, it won't be banned and the country can still continue to get a revenue.

[Ziskinberg]

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.

E sabong are not like the casino game where our enemy is the casino owner but on e sabong two parties are fighting for each other but I think the platform where this game is held only gets a small commission. It was the traditional casino is the one that is harder to win but in e sabong, your chance to win is high if you are good at analyzing the cocks. Poor or rich, it only depends if they are responsible on playing a gambling.

It can help them earn some if they are lucky or like I said earlier if they are skillful enough and also it makes them relieve their stress after a whole day of working. If only they play it this way, it won't be banned and the country can still continue to get a revenue.

Unfortunately, the government does not see it as a form of having fun for Filipinos, they see it as a problem for the majority of the gamblers because they are gambling their money despite the fact they aren't making enough money for their family. While the operators are making billions of money from this platform, the majority of the gamblers are also slowly ruining their lives due to irresponsible gambling, so the government has to make a stop to that.

[bisdak40]

E sabong are not like the casino game where our enemy is the casino owner but on e sabong two parties are fighting for each other but I think the platform where this game is held only gets a small commission. It was the traditional casino is the one that is harder to win but in e sabong, your chance to win is high if you are good at analyzing the cocks. Poor or rich, it only depends if they are responsible on playing a gambling.

It can help them earn some if they are lucky or like I said earlier if they are skillful enough and also it makes them relieve their stress after a whole day of working. If only they play it this way, it won't be banned and the country can still continue to get a revenue.

The platform you mean are the operators of these online sabong sites which I think get a 10 percent commission of the bet on every fight. Imagine if you have 250 fights a day and a 5 million pesos average bet for every fight, that's a lot of money for the operators that is why they even operate illegally because of that kind of money they received.

Even if you are an expert on fighting birds that don't add a percentage on winning this kind of betting. There are a lot of factors that we can't see like if we are watching an actual cockfighting.

[Mahanton]

E sabong are not like the casino game where our enemy is the casino owner but on e sabong two parties are fighting for each other but I think the platform where this game is held only gets a small commission. It was the traditional casino is the one that is harder to win but in e sabong, your chance to win is high if you are good at analyzing the cocks. Poor or rich, it only depends if they are responsible on playing a gambling.

It can help them earn some if they are lucky or like I said earlier if they are skillful enough and also it makes them relieve their stress after a whole day of working. If only they play it this way, it won't be banned and the country can still continue to get a revenue.

The platform you mean are the operators of these online sabong sites which I think get a 10 percent commission of the bet on every fight. Imagine if you have 250 fights a day and a 5 million pesos average bet for every fight, that's a lot of money for the operators that is why they even operate illegally because of that kind of money they received.

Even if you are an expert on fighting birds that don't add a percentage on winning this kind of betting. There are a lot of factors that we can't see like if we are watching an actual cockfighting.

There's soo much money generated with this e-betting considering that in Philippines that this is really a known gambling game where they do really make fight of those gaming fowls or cocks.
Its true that people would be thinking on being an operator since there's a demand which its really just too big if you do make out some computation in terms of their commissions or deductions
which it wont really be that surprising that whenever they had been shut down then they would just simply create new and do continue since they do know that making money
is easy and also in huge amounts and government doesnt really like for these things not to give out in terms of taxes, so shutting them down would be the key and addiction issues
is just really next in line.

[passwordnow]

Yeah, that's one problem but like having a hash to verify the fairness of that match. Just like what we have in casinos to have it verified the provably fair for each of those bets that we make.
As for the banning policies, it won't really have a full stop for the operation of these casinos or operators. They're making a huge money and that's not going to stop them operating despite the ban. They won't let pass the big money they are earning from it.

There’s no thrill if its digital and this is the thinking of many, that’s why they continue to gamble even if its illegal. Some operator are caught for still in operation, I hope the law enforcement will do something about it because if they caught some operators most probably the bettor will start to stop playing because of being afraid to put in a jail. Yes, there’s a huge money here and its good that the government stop this one even if they are going to lose money as well, this is for the benefit of many.

I think that reason of having no thrill is because they're into intense action and seeing those roosters go in blood is what they've been used to. This is just an alternative if people have come to realize that there will be no animal that will be hurt by the likes of their gambling game.
But maybe, it's good that it's totally banned forever and there will be no amendment so that the decision remains firm and strong.

[Rabi3]

Fights between animals should be prohibited because they are bloody, unethical and harmful.
I understand that they bring income to the State but in the end it is an industry that takes resources without producing anything, at most simple entertainment.
In this case there Is also an issue related gambling addiction... Well It was a good choice but I think a better information should always be provided because this time Is with this game the next time It could be another one

i totally agree with you, putting animals in a field to fight each other and raise them with techniques to make them more aggressive is messed up and a no brainer to say that it's a bad thing, i thought people that did those type of things and gambling on them did it behind closed doors, it shouldn't be legal anywhere in the world, if someone intentionally puts animals at a risk, it's illegal.

[ethereumhunter]

Looking for luck, I guess? But most of the time, the luckier is the one who facilitates the gambling business. Later, those gamblers realize that they are already out of control and they already lose lots of money. Just how you describe it, poor people who lose their money in gambling do have more problem to face.

The money is not allocated for gambling, but due to un-control decisions, they just lose it and add it to their problem.

Looking for luck we can do but we don't have to bother looking for it because the more we look for it, the more difficult it will be. Just let the luck that will come to us in due time and we will not realize it. If gamblers can realize that they are out of control and have lost a lot of money, they can stop immediately and will not continue playing gambling because it can make them go bankrupt and lose even more money. If they can allocate the money well and not spend it on gambling, I guess they can survive.

[Rufsilf]

I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.

Before there was no E-Sabong here in the Philippines that's why I think the revenue coming here will be easily covered by the government. Supposed to be one of the good sources of revenue for the government during the pandemic but ended up in a worst result to the lives of people.

I don't see a declined revenue here because like I said, the hype of e-sabong was just around 2 years in operation here.

People here already accept that there's no e-sabong right now because there are still lots of e-gambling here as an alternative.

Certainly the revenue of E-Sabong has been a big help in the Philippines and it will still be of help if its operation will continue but the effect is just too great to deal as it is the lives of people we are talking and the government couldn't afford that kind of result.

The government can still find another alternative on where to find some good clean revenues without destroying some lives along the way, there's still a lot of option though.

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.

Yes, that's indeed true! The majority of users are poor while there is only few rich people that are also indulging in E-Sabong, that being said, we quite know why poor people are still living poor despite having jobs because instead of buying basic necessities, they chose to gamble that money in hopes of doubling it at the end of the day. It's unfortunate but that is the reality in the Philippines, that's why the next administration have already said that they still won't allow any operation.

[Taskford]

I have read somewhere the newly elected president and its administration will still ban the online sabong just like what the outgoing administration did. Sure the Philippines need the revenue but they cannot afford the consequence.

Before there was no E-Sabong here in the Philippines that's why I think the revenue coming here will be easily covered by the government. Supposed to be one of the good sources of revenue for the government during the pandemic but ended up in a worst result to the lives of people.

I don't see a declined revenue here because like I said, the hype of e-sabong was just around 2 years in operation here.

People here already accept that there's no e-sabong right now because there are still lots of e-gambling here as an alternative.

Certainly the revenue of E-Sabong has been a big help in the Philippines and it will still be of help if its operation will continue but the effect is just too great to deal as it is the lives of people we are talking and the government couldn't afford that kind of result.

The government can still find another alternative on where to find some good clean revenues without destroying some lives along the way, there's still a lot of option though.

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.

Yes, that's indeed true! The majority of users are poor while there is only few rich people that are also indulging in E-Sabong, that being said, we quite know why poor people are still living poor despite having jobs because instead of buying basic necessities, they chose to gamble that money in hopes of doubling it at the end of the day. It's unfortunate but that is the reality in the Philippines, that's why the next administration have already said that they still won't allow any operation.

Those people is just trying their luck to earn money in E-sabong because the way social media influencer promote this like its easy to earn money and the only thing you need is to select a rooster then you can earn. While in reality all of this is in random form and many life has been destroyed so for implementing the law about banning this is good decision made by PH government because for this many families will be save from harsh addiction of E-sabong.

[Maslate]

Those people is just trying their luck to earn money in E-sabong because the way social media influencer promote this like its easy to earn money and the only thing you need is to select a rooster then you can earn. While in reality all of this is in random form and many life has been destroyed so for implementing the law about banning this is good decision made by PH government because for this many families will be save from harsh addiction of E-sabong.

Unfortunately when we say about luck, it cannot be consistent,what only consistent there is the operators are making money because they have the edge or they'll get a certain percentage from your winning based on the odds they offered. It's okay to try your luck and enjoy e sabong, but you cannot do it in a consistent basis as you can never win.

[Japinat]

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.

Yes, many poor people have gambled using traditional gambling games and have forgotten their basic needs that must be bought. If they won, they would certainly get a lot of money. But if they lost, then their loss could be big and it would be hard to get back. All they could do was stay away from gambling, all gambling before they had self-control in that corridor.

Overall they lose money, that's why they will never be successful if they are thinking that E-Sabong would solve their financial problem, instead, it only give them more problem as due to addiction it will result them to getting into loans or selling their precious things just to top up money for gambling, it's just alarming so the government just made the right decision.

[madnessteat]

Those people is just trying their luck to earn money in E-sabong because the way social media influencer promote this like its easy to earn money and the only thing you need is to select a rooster then you can earn. While in reality all of this is in random form and many life has been destroyed so for implementing the law about banning this is good decision made by PH government because for this many families will be save from harsh addiction of E-sabong.

Unfortunately when we say about luck, it cannot be consistent,what only consistent there is the operators are making money because they have the edge or they'll get a certain percentage from your winning based on the odds they offered. It's okay to try your luck and enjoy e sabong, but you cannot do it in a consistent basis as you can never win.

I don't know how you can enjoy a cockfight when the roosters get hurt and sometimes die. I think that these kinds of fights should be banned in whatever country they take place. I don't think it's humane to make money off the blood of those who can't make a decision and take part in fights against their will. If a man wants to see a spectacular fight, he can bet on boxing or the UFC. Humans, unlike animals, are aware of their actions and are fully responsible for their decisions.

[Naficopa]

I don't know how you can enjoy a cockfight when the roosters get hurt and sometimes die. I think that these kinds of fights should be banned in whatever country they take place. I don't think it's humane to make money off the blood of those who can't make a decision and take part in fights against their will. If a man wants to see a spectacular fight, he can bet on boxing or the UFC. Humans, unlike animals, are aware of their actions and are fully responsible for their decisions.

Seems like - we only care for our feelings and not about animals - enjoying animal fighting and bleeding and dying has been a favorite pastime in past.
But now the animal rights organizations are raising the voices and are protecting animals as well.

[Peanutswar]

Though it's a big help but we cannot deny the fact that it's not good for the poor, why? Because majority of the audience of e sabong are poor people, instead of using their money for the basic needs, they try to gamble it hoping that they'll win which we know gamblers would lose most of the time, so it's not really good.

Yes, many poor people have gambled using traditional gambling games and have forgotten their basic needs that must be bought. If they won, they would certainly get a lot of money. But if they lost, then their loss could be big and it would be hard to get back. All they could do was stay away from gambling, all gambling before they had self-control in that corridor.

A cockfight is just basically introduced to the native people who enjoy farming their chicken and have some casual game of cockfight because of the basic gambling of having a choose with the chickens its more easier to make a bet and just a casual entertainment with small amount but time past by in the middle and the top class see the game to earn too its all about all or nothing game its all about the cock stamina and breeders care to win the figt.

[Jemzx00]

Yes, many poor people have gambled using traditional gambling games and have forgotten their basic needs that must be bought. If they won, they would certainly get a lot of money. But if they lost, then their loss could be big and it would be hard to get back. All they could do was stay away from gambling, all gambling before they had self-control in that corridor.

A cockfight is just basically introduced to the native people who enjoy farming their chicken and have some casual game of cockfight because of the basic gambling of having a choose with the chickens its more easier to make a bet and just a casual entertainment with small amount but time past by in the middle and the top class see the game to earn too its all about all or nothing game its all about the cock stamina and breeders care to win the fight.

I'm not so sure if the same goes for Filipino cockfighters and breeders as far as I know cockfighting or "sabong" is not only introduced by chicken farmers but rather by our native people in the province. Due to lack of modernization and inability to find hobbies, they find joy and entertainment from sabong or cockfighting. Time goes by, cockfighting became normal to us and has been used to gamble.
After E-sabong or Online Cockfighting, has been introduced due to social distancing, people have been joining not only to elder people but also to teenagers, teens and even people who don't have any knowledge about it since it is too easy to join.