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June 06, 2022, 10:20:06 PM
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To pump us all,  Grin here is the official fight trailer by DAZN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WThfLmqQY

Seems that fans are still rooting for GGG to win even if they say that he is past his prime already. But we can see that he can pull that trigger with a good win against Murata. And then Bivol upsets Canelo in their fight. But the two are true Warriors and I assume everyone is very excited. Even the press conference for sure will be crowded by fans of both fighters, just imagine the atmosphere.
Unanimous decision by Bivol which i could say that it was really just right yet Bivol does have that unbreakable guard which is something that cant really be beat up easily.
Bivol neutralizes Canelo's counter punching and also he had some tough chin so its expected that he had able to handle it out.Its not surprising that people would
really be going along with GGG for this upcoming fight.We've indeed seen on how he performs on vs Murata which it isnt surprising on whose the favorite.

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June 06, 2022, 10:30:42 PM
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If the loss is controversial there should be a succeeding fight to once and for all resolve it,........
The first two fights between GGG and Canelo are too close to call I hope they can finally resolve it but I doubt it because they are both good in their last fights.
So you want a fourth fight if the trilogy goes to judges scorecard again and the result is close UD or a split decision?

To pump us all,  Grin here is the official fight trailer by DAZN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WThfLmqQY
The comment section exploded. I hope the two fighters doesn't disappoint their fans and give us all an epic fight.

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Seems that fans are still rooting for GGG to win even if they say that he is past his prime already.
It's hard not to like the guy since he's been around fpr too long and still beating other fighters. Everybody loves a legend to win in his remaining fights before retiring.

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June 06, 2022, 11:51:53 PM
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This could have happened before the Bivol fight, but then again they are afraid Canelo might lost to GGG in a trilogy and their chance to take a shot on Bivol might gone.
Well, what else can we expect, sports industry is more of a business now than an actual sport.
GGG is now 40, but I think he still have enough left in his tank to beat Canelo or bring the fight as close as possible.

I think even way back after years since the rematch of Canelo and GGG, the former didn't show any interest to fight for a trilogy claiming he clearly won all the fights and he will just follow his timeline in the journey of getting more belts at the Cruiserweight Division.

Since there's a big money involved in that trilogy, maybe that is one of the reasons why Canelo suddenly change his decision and decide to fight GGG for the last time to finally shut up the doubts of anyone. Since the challenged Bivol first, the trilogy was set to happen in September regardless if he will lose to Bivol.

Fortunately, GGG was able to win against Murata because I think the trilogy against Canelo is totally non-sense now if GGG loses against Murata.

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June 06, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
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Canelo is getting slow which is slower than age GGG if you do see his fight against Bivol then you could really tell that this man is overrated. Sloppy fighting performance
and i would still make out some bets for GGG if you do tend to compare both on their recent matches then you could clearly tell and say on who do have the upper hand.
Im not on being bitter but you could really tell on how they do fight.

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June 07, 2022, 01:26:38 AM
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Fortunately, GGG was able to win against Murata because I think the trilogy against Canelo is totally non-sense now if GGG loses against Murata.
You're right. Actually, if GGG didnt win consecutively after his loss to Canelo I dont think this trilogy is possible or fans might lose interest because its just shows that GGG is not his usual self anymore as a great boxer. But since the outcome on his past fights are a victory, many are still looking forward that GGG can avenge his loss to Canelo.

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June 07, 2022, 02:36:49 AM
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Fortunately, GGG was able to win against Murata because I think the trilogy against Canelo is totally non-sense now if GGG loses against Murata.
You're right. Actually, if GGG didnt win consecutively after his loss to Canelo I dont think this trilogy is possible or fans might lose interest because its just shows that GGG is not his usual self anymore as a great boxer. But since the outcome on his past fights are a victory, many are still looking forward that GGG can avenge his loss to Canelo.

His win against Murata was smooth and patiently cooked by him, making Murata lose every ounce of strength he had until he goes down to the floor. You can see in that fight the vast experience of GGG is the main advantage for Murata and he lost because he doesn't know what to do anymore because the punches keep coming to his face until he can no longer take it. Looks like Canelo needs to know how to counter such tactics if he wanted to beat GGG in their final fight because that's just a great boxing skill from GGG.

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June 07, 2022, 03:07:51 AM
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Canelo is getting slow which is slower than age GGG if you do see his fight against Bivol then you could really tell that this man is overrated. Sloppy fighting performance
and i would still make out some bets for GGG if you do tend to compare both on their recent matches then you could clearly tell and say on who do have the upper hand.
Im not on being bitter but you could really tell on how they do fight.

He was slow because he fights on a not comfortable weight of 175 lbs. Yes, he fight Kovalev at that weight, but Kovalev is way pst his prime at that stage but you can see that Canelo did have a hard fight against him at LHW. And then challenging a young champion like Bivol, bigger and taller than him? it's a recipe for disaster for Canelo and he seems to reach his limit. So it's not him being slow, it's just his body is not adapted to this too much weight. Now it's going with his comfortable weight of 168 lbs wherein he clean up that division.

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June 07, 2022, 09:37:52 AM
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His win against Murata was smooth and patiently cooked by him, making Murata lose every ounce of strength he had until he goes down to the floor. You can see in that fight the vast experience of GGG is the main advantage for Murata and he lost because he doesn't know what to do anymore because the punches keep coming to his face until he can no longer take it. Looks like Canelo needs to know how to counter such tactics if he wanted to beat GGG in their final fight because that's just a great boxing skill from GGG.

I didn't watched Golovkin's fight against Murata. But if you are being honest, then it is quite a bit of bad news for Canelo. He is in his peak form, despite the fact that he is almost 8 years elder to Canelo. BTW, a war of words is going on. Both Juan Manuel Marquez and Julio Cesar Chavez have opined that Canelo is going to knockout Golovkin. On the other hand, Sergiy Derevyanchenko claims that Golovkin is going to win. Anyway, I have made my decision. Going to bet BTC0.01 on Golovkin. Quite big amount for me, but I guess it is worth the risk this time. Just hoping that the jury will remain unbiased.

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Canelo is getting slow which is slower than age GGG if you do see his fight against Bivol then you could really tell that this man is overrated. Sloppy fighting performance
and i would still make out some bets for GGG if you do tend to compare both on their recent matches then you could clearly tell and say on who do have the upper hand.
Im not on being bitter but you could really tell on how they do fight.

I would not say that Canelo is getting slow. If you evaluate his form only by his fight against Bivol, then Canelo was not in his weight division and was aiming to end the fight by knockout, instead of gaining points. Loaded for one punch.

Since second fight against GGG, Canelo has changed his fighting style. If previously he was a boxer that throws combination of punches, then now he is doing a combo of 1-2 and ends with a body shot. From a technician, he has transformed into a bull with strong punches.

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Canelo is getting slow which is slower than age GGG if you do see his fight against Bivol then you could really tell that this man is overrated. Sloppy fighting performance
and i would still make out some bets for GGG if you do tend to compare both on their recent matches then you could clearly tell and say on who do have the upper hand.
Im not on being bitter but you could really tell on how they do fight.
It's just one fight, and you can't say that Canelo is slow then, besides that is a weight that probably most of us here would agree, that it's not his weight class. But I would agree that GGG has a good chance because he is extra motivate for a revenge and it shows that Canelo is vulnerable, like what Bivol did. So he should watch that tape as the blue print is already on how to defeat Canelo.

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Canelo is getting slow which is slower than age GGG if you do see his fight against Bivol then you could really tell that this man is overrated. Sloppy fighting performance
and i would still make out some bets for GGG if you do tend to compare both on their recent matches then you could clearly tell and say on who do have the upper hand.
Im not on being bitter but you could really tell on how they do fight.
It's just one fight, and you can't say that Canelo is slow then, besides that is a weight that probably most of us here would agree, that it's not his weight class. But I would agree that GGG has a good chance because he is extra motivate for a revenge and it shows that Canelo is vulnerable, like what Bivol did. So he should watch that tape as the blue print is already on how to defeat Canelo.
I hope we will see that in the fight, GGG is still not out of his prime I think, so he needs to beat Canelo in this last fight. Canelo loss to Bivol because it's not his weight, he was just trying to go up but he was not able to carry his power, so he is going back now and he finds it comfortable to fight an old GGG that he already beat before.

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I hope we will see that in the fight, GGG is still not out of his prime I think, so he needs to beat Canelo in this last fight. Canelo loss to Bivol because it's not his weight, he was just trying to go up but he was not able to carry his power, so he is going back now and he finds it comfortable to fight an old GGG that he already beat before.
Age comparison maybe GGG no longer has the ability like his prime because GGG against Canelo is 10 years younger than him, even though the previous two matches have been draws but Canelo appears more confident to beat GGG than against Bivol before, I prefer Canelo style boxer and I hope he wins KO for absolute victory.

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In my opinion, Canelo lost confidence in his victory.  He is psychologically broken.  

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After his crushing defeat, no.  He needed to defeat Bivol.  He had to muster all his strength and win.  And then the fight with Gennady Golovkin could be successful.  But that did not happen.  And now I don't believe in Canelo's victory.  

Kazakhstani Gennady Golovkin is the owner of high-profile WBA and IBF titles.  

This is a very technical boxer.  

I think he is destined to win.

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In my opinion, Canelo lost confidence in his victory.  He is psychologically broken.  

Attention, question...

Canelo continues to be a boxing champion and winner?  

After his crushing defeat, no.  He needed to defeat Bivol.  He had to muster all his strength and win.  And then the fight with Gennady Golovkin could be successful.  But that did not happen.  And now I don't believe in Canelo's victory.  

Kazakhstani Gennady Golovkin is the owner of high-profile WBA and IBF titles.  

This is a very technical boxer.  

I think he is destined to win.
I would have to disagree, Canelo lost against Bivol and there is no way to argue against that, but it is not like it was a crushing defeat either, Bivol is an extremely technical fighter and even if his professional career is on the short side he has a lot of experience as an amateur boxer.

So it was not that surprising Canelo lost the fight, now Canelo will fight on a weight more familiar to him and in which his punching power is a significant threat, does this means he will win? Not really as GGG is a fantastic boxer as well but I think to say he is broken is simply too much.

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June 07, 2022, 09:03:31 PM
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Fortunately, GGG was able to win against Murata because I think the trilogy against Canelo is totally non-sense now if GGG loses against Murata.
You're right. Actually, if GGG didnt win consecutively after his loss to Canelo I dont think this trilogy is possible or fans might lose interest because its just shows that GGG is not his usual self anymore as a great boxer. But since the outcome on his past fights are a victory, many are still looking forward that GGG can avenge his loss to Canelo.
But we cannot deny that this trilogy is not that interesting anymore because we can say that GGG is much more vulnerable now than he was in the previous years. After Canelo's loss and GGG's win, seems that this trilogy is slowly making some progress and hype because the people are interested to see how would Canelo and GGG perform.

Canelo's image now is not that good anymore because Bivol really did some scratch on his record, after being the pound-for-pound king and an undisputed boxer, he lost by a UD.

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June 07, 2022, 11:59:39 PM
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Canelo's image now is not that good anymore because Bivol really did some scratch on his record, after being the pound-for-pound king and an undisputed boxer, he lost by a UD.

Not that totally damaged but Canelo can still regain that status. He is still in his prime years after all.

After the Canelo vs GGG trilogy, it was reported that he will go to Bivol next for the rematch. Unfortunately, Bivol seems not interested in the rematch as he claimed he want more title than a rematch. Hopefully, if Canelo will able to win against GGG, that might push Bivol to consider a rematch with Canelo.

But before that, Canelo needs to settle first the chapter between him and GGG. A chapter that until now, no clear winner that's why a trilogy is necessary.

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June 08, 2022, 01:13:08 AM
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Canelo's image now is not that good anymore because Bivol really did some scratch on his record, after being the pound-for-pound king and an undisputed boxer, he lost by a UD.

Not that totally damaged but Canelo can still regain that status. He is still in his prime years after all.

After the Canelo vs GGG trilogy, it was reported that he will go to Bivol next for the rematch. Unfortunately, Bivol seems not interested in the rematch as he claimed he want more title than a rematch. Hopefully, if Canelo will able to win against GGG, that might push Bivol to consider a rematch with Canelo.

But before that, Canelo needs to settle first the chapter between him and GGG. A chapter that until now, no clear winner that's why a trilogy is necessary.

I agree, he is not a damage good, it's just that we don't see him losing the fight against Bivol. But Bivol is too much for him in a weight that he is not used to.

And remember that Canelo is one of the best and for sure these kind of boxers have the mentality to bounce back again, like Manny Pacquiao. I think there is still fire inside of Canelo to finished this trilogy with GGG and settled the discussion between these 2 legendary boxers. And it's good that Canelo experienced his second lost, so that he will have to improved and not being too much self-satisfying, in my opinion.

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I agree, he is not a damage good, it's just that we don't see him losing the fight against Bivol. But Bivol is too much for him in a weight that he is not used to.

And remember that Canelo is one of the best and for sure these kind of boxers have the mentality to bounce back again, like Manny Pacquiao. I think there is still fire inside of Canelo to finished this trilogy with GGG and settled the discussion between these 2 legendary boxers. And it's good that Canelo experienced his second lost, so that he will have to improved and not being too much self-satisfying, in my opinion.

Too early to make conclusions. The Canelo vs GGG 3 fight would have happened at least 2-3 years ago, but Canelo was running away scared after his flawed victory during the second fight. He agreed to the fight now, only after knowing that GGG is now 40 years old. But the problem for him is that Golovkin is in excellent form right now (totally destroyed Ryōta Murata two months back) and Canelo himself is not in peak form (he lost to Dmitry Bivol last month, and that too at the T-Mobile Arena).

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I agree, he is not a damage good, it's just that we don't see him losing the fight against Bivol. But Bivol is too much for him in a weight that he is not used to.

And remember that Canelo is one of the best and for sure these kind of boxers have the mentality to bounce back again, like Manny Pacquiao. I think there is still fire inside of Canelo to finished this trilogy with GGG and settled the discussion between these 2 legendary boxers. And it's good that Canelo experienced his second lost, so that he will have to improved and not being too much self-satisfying, in my opinion.

Too early to make conclusions. The Canelo vs GGG 3 fight would have happened at least 2-3 years ago, but Canelo was running away scared after his flawed victory during the second fight. He agreed to the fight now, only after knowing that GGG is now 40 years old. But the problem for him is that Golovkin is in excellent form right now (totally destroyed Ryōta Murata two months back) and Canelo himself is not in peak form (he lost to Dmitry Bivol last month, and that too at the T-Mobile Arena).

And this makes the fight interesting again, because of the lost GGG suffered in the hands of Bivol.

Maybe GGG will have a crack at Canelo because of his great performance against Murata and it seems that age is not yet a factor for him?

Or will Canelo wanted to show us that he is back again in his winning form and defeat GGG in a telling manner?

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June 08, 2022, 05:55:00 AM
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I agree, he is not a damage good, it's just that we don't see him losing the fight against Bivol. But Bivol is too much for him in a weight that he is not used to.

And remember that Canelo is one of the best and for sure these kind of boxers have the mentality to bounce back again, like Manny Pacquiao. I think there is still fire inside of Canelo to finished this trilogy with GGG and settled the discussion between these 2 legendary boxers. And it's good that Canelo experienced his second lost, so that he will have to improved and not being too much self-satisfying, in my opinion.

Too early to make conclusions. The Canelo vs GGG 3 fight would have happened at least 2-3 years ago, but Canelo was running away scared after his flawed victory during the second fight. He agreed to the fight now, only after knowing that GGG is now 40 years old. But the problem for him is that Golovkin is in excellent form right now (totally destroyed Ryōta Murata two months back) and Canelo himself is not in peak form (he lost to Dmitry Bivol last month, and that too at the T-Mobile Arena).

And this makes the fight interesting again, because of the lost GGG suffered in the hands of Bivol.

Maybe GGG will have a crack at Canelo because of his great performance against Murata and it seems that age is not yet a factor for him?

Or will Canelo wanted to show us that he is back again in his winning form and defeat GGG in a telling manner?

A slight interchange of name here, Canelo is the one who lost against Bivol with a huge upset, and that lost brought him back to fight GGG again. Luckily GGG wants to put an exclamation point on their trilogy (which is a good thing).
Now that GGG is 40 years old, I'll have to say they could have done it before he turns 40. Though he's still in a great form as what we've seen in the Murata fight, GGG still have enough left on his tank.
This fight is gonna be Canelo's ticket to continue climbing on his career, but if he lost I don't know what the future holds for him or who he will fight next, or most likely will have to witness a 4th match.

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