[Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17

[btc_angela]

I like the way GGG is smiling to Canelo even Canelo is so serious during the staredown, this looks like GGG is already prepared anything and not afraid fighting with Canelo for the third times. It's funny how GGG switch from thumb up hand poses to boxer poses, he probably forgot this is boxing event lol. Not really sure why Canelo look so serious to GGG, perhaps this is because he lose against Bivol.

LOL.. the picture just tells us who will be in a lot of pressure and who will be the one in a relaxed mood. A lot of expectation on Canelo and a lot of people are arguing that he refused the trilogy fight previously because he was afraid of GGG. The biased scorecard adds further to the controversy. Betting odds are also heavily favoring Canelo. A loss to Golovkin will be disastrous not just for his career, but for his finances as well. On the other hand, Golovkin is smiling because he is earning tens of millions of USD, when he is quite close to retirement. He has nothing to lose.

I like how GGG is so cool, it doesn't change anything though because the real battle is in the ring. What we have to expect is that both fighters will give us a good fight and a clean fight because they respected each other. I hope Canelo will not underestimate GGG as he might experience his two straight loss if he will get too complacent.

Yeah, GGG is always cool in this face off but you can see that he is not intimidated by Canelo. There is mutual respect but you can feel that there is really some hostility between the two. I'm just lost though, the 2 fights where contested in 160 right? GGG best weight, and then this time it will be 168 lbs? so it means this is Canelo's comfortable weight. So we might see the best version of Canelo here against GGG moving up in this weight class.

[Sithara007]

Yeah, GGG is always cool in this face off but you can see that he is not intimidated by Canelo. There is mutual respect but you can feel that there is really some hostility between the two. I'm just lost though, the 2 fights where contested in 160 right? GGG best weight, and then this time it will be 168 lbs? so it means this is Canelo's comfortable weight. So we might see the best version of Canelo here against GGG moving up in this weight class.

No personal enmity between the two. But that said, Golovkin has spoken to the media on multiple occasions about his displeasure regarding the scoring. He believe that the first fight was stolen from him, and the scoring for second one was also not fair. And he is further aggrieved by the fact that Canelo refused to fight him immediately after the second fight. GGG wanted a fight in 2019. Anyway, less than three months remain, and I am sure that this fight is going to be the most exciting one we have for the last 1-2 years. 

[Russlenat]

Yeah, GGG is always cool in this face off but you can see that he is not intimidated by Canelo. There is mutual respect but you can feel that there is really some hostility between the two. I'm just lost though, the 2 fights where contested in 160 right? GGG best weight, and then this time it will be 168 lbs? so it means this is Canelo's comfortable weight. So we might see the best version of Canelo here against GGG moving up in this weight class.

No personal enmity between the two. But that said, Golovkin has spoken to the media on multiple occasions about his displeasure regarding the scoring. He believe that the first fight was stolen from him, and the scoring for second one was also not fair. And he is further aggrieved by the fact that Canelo refused to fight him immediately after the second fight. GGG wanted a fight in 2019. Anyway, less than three months remain, and I am sure that this fight is going to be the most exciting one we have for the last 1-2 years. 

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

[Japinat]

Yeah, GGG is always cool in this face off but you can see that he is not intimidated by Canelo. There is mutual respect but you can feel that there is really some hostility between the two. I'm just lost though, the 2 fights where contested in 160 right? GGG best weight, and then this time it will be 168 lbs? so it means this is Canelo's comfortable weight. So we might see the best version of Canelo here against GGG moving up in this weight class.

No personal enmity between the two. But that said, Golovkin has spoken to the media on multiple occasions about his displeasure regarding the scoring. He believe that the first fight was stolen from him, and the scoring for second one was also not fair. And he is further aggrieved by the fact that Canelo refused to fight him immediately after the second fight. GGG wanted a fight in 2019. Anyway, less than three months remain, and I am sure that this fight is going to be the most exciting one we have for the last 1-2 years. 

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

That's easier said than done, we've seen their last two fights and there are instances where GGG is able to hit Canelo with some solid shots but Canelo is still standing. Both fighters can take the power of their respective punches so they can trade punches and that makes the fight more exciting. It's a trilogy (probably the last), so let's expect that they'll give everything they have especially GGG who is trying to win a fight.

[Fredomago]

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

Nothing to argue. If GGG still loses this fight or if somehow another draw happened, he will be retiring his belt with a loss from Canelo. It's good to see him more aggressive in terms of knocking Canelo down for a better score card. The two past fight gives Canelo edge, though the very first one was a draw and the second one was scored in favor of Alvarez.

We don't know how these fights will end, but fans are waiting for these two heavyweights to exchange solid punches.

Both are good in terms of accepting a solid combo and remain standing. Better luck takers..

[stadus]

He already reached his limitation, he cannot challenge Bivol again, or other champions in a higher division, he just has to stay in a division where he reigns before he will retire, and winning this fight against GGG would be a good comeback from a bad defeat against Bivol.

One loss and already reached his limitation? He can come back again. He just needs to be fully prepared physically and mentally. I think he is too confident that's why he was being surprised by Bivol. Now that he knows how fighting Bivol is, he can ask for a rematch later in the future. But it's not simple as Bivol is chasing titles. Canelo should bring a title of his own first before he can face Bivol again. Bivol is fighting for titles and not to destroy popular names.

Winning against GGG is not a considered comeback too. GGG is old enough. Not any impact if Canelo wins here.

Well, if Canelo still thinks that he has a shot to defeat Bivol then he should try it and give a better performance this time but I don't think that Canelo was defeated because he was confident because I think we know him enough that he's not that kind of boxer and he usually starts slow to feel his opponents and make some calculations before trying some moves. The thing is he was really surprised and Bivol was a natural LHW while Canelo is not and that gives the champion an advantage because Bivol is more confident in his own division while Canelo is struggling into that added weights and his speed were really affected.

[Sithara007]

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

Easier said than done. It is almost impossible to KO Canelo, knowing how powerful he is. On top of that, don't forget the fact that Golovkin is now 40 years old. He is no longer the GGG who had the upper hand in the first fight of 2017. At this point, to put is simply, it is not realistic to expect Golovkin to KO Canelo in the ring. In case GGG wins the trilogy fight, then it will be based on points. I know that the jury will be biased, but then the chances of Golovkin getting a neutral score from them is much higher than him kicking Canelo out in the match.

[Smack That Ace]

I like the way GGG is smiling to Canelo even Canelo is so serious during the staredown, this looks like GGG is already prepared anything and not afraid fighting with Canelo for the third times. It's funny how GGG switch from thumb up hand poses to boxer poses, he probably forgot this is boxing event lol. Not really sure why Canelo look so serious to GGG, perhaps this is because he lose against Bivol.

LOL.. the picture just tells us who will be in a lot of pressure and who will be the one in a relaxed mood. A lot of expectation on Canelo and a lot of people are arguing that he refused the trilogy fight previously because he was afraid of GGG. The biased scorecard adds further to the controversy. Betting odds are also heavily favoring Canelo. A loss to Golovkin will be disastrous not just for his career, but for his finances as well. On the other hand, Golovkin is smiling because he is earning tens of millions of USD, when he is quite close to retirement. He has nothing to lose.

Let me rephrase, The staredown looks really intense when we look at Canelo. Not so much when we look at his opponent though. And I hope that Canelo doesn't get buried under the heavy weight of expectations from him. I am also going to favor Canelo, to be honest. Because he looks to be more serious about this fight compared to his opponent. And I appreciate someone who takes things seriously. But I can also tell you that even though GGG looks really relaxed he is not going to take this fight as a joke. This fight is not going to make the career of Canelo so much as it can break GGG's career.

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

Easier said than done. It is almost impossible to KO Canelo, knowing how powerful he is. On top of that, don't forget the fact that Golovkin is now 40 years old. He is no longer the GGG who had the upper hand in the first fight of 2017. At this point, to put is simply, it is not realistic to expect Golovkin to KO Canelo in the ring. In case GGG wins the trilogy fight, then it will be based on points. I know that the jury will be biased, but then the chances of Golovkin getting a neutral score from them is much higher than him kicking Canelo out in the match.

I think that Golovkin is just happy that even at 40 years of age he is getting paid really well. I also agree that his skills are not as sharp as they used to be 4 years ago. So, it is going to be really hard for him to knock out his opponent Canelo but I will say that it is not going to be impossible.

But, I think the more realistic thing for Golovkin is going to be dominating the whole match. But even after that I highly doubt that he is going to get the win that he will rightly deserve. Whatever happens, I think it is going to be an interesting match between these two. But I have to say just imagine Golovkin KO's Canelo. Canelo is going to end up being depressed after this match.

[inthelongrun]

True. This is an old GGG moving up in weight against a prime Canelo. We should not forget that Canelo lost in his last fight because he moved up in weight. He is still undefeated and undisputed in super middleweight. Did Canelo even suffered even a single knockdown in his career? I guess no. When's the last time Canelo got seriously wobbled? Probably against Jose Cotto when he was still a boy? I say there's a big chance Canelo is the one stopping GGG this time.

But the outcome of this fight will never justify the previous 2 fights. First fight was a clear GGG. Second fight was close and could go either way. And Canelo fought GGG when he was already 35 and 36. Hardcore fight fans should remember when Canelo surrendered his WBC middleweight belt because he don't want to fight GGG. Canelo was subjected to mockery at that time. Imagine surrendering your belt without a fight? That's not Mexican. That is why some Mexicans until now hated Canelo and are calling him a coward.

GGG was avoided during his prime years. Remember the first time he fought for the championship? He fought for the interim WBA champion belt first because then German superstar Felix Sturm avoided him at all cost.   

[Japinat]

True. This is an old GGG moving up in weight against a prime Canelo. We should not forget that Canelo lost in his last fight because he moved up in weight. He is still undefeated and undisputed in super middleweight. Did Canelo even suffered even a single knockdown in his career? I guess no. When's the last time Canelo got seriously wobbled? Probably against Jose Cotto when he was still a boy? I say there's a big chance Canelo is the one stopping GGG this time.
 

That would be a big win from him if he could really stop GGG.

Their last two fights are controversial because GGG still believes that the judging was unfair and he does not believe he lose in that fight. By saying stopping, are you referring to Canelo knocking out GGG? If that's what you meant, then we will surely have a very entertaining fight.

[Jody.Drummer]

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

Easier said than done. It is almost impossible to KO Canelo, knowing how powerful he is. On top of that, don't forget the fact that Golovkin is now 40 years old. He is no longer the GGG who had the upper hand in the first fight of 2017. At this point, to put is simply, it is not realistic to expect Golovkin to KO Canelo in the ring. In case GGG wins the trilogy fight, then it will be based on points. I know that the jury will be biased, but then the chances of Golovkin getting a neutral score from them is much higher than him kicking Canelo out in the match.

Agree with what you say, because regardless of what this is very difficult to do.
Age is a natural problem because it can reduce in any way including strength and speed.
we've seen some big fights like manny against ugas or indeed some time ago Donaire against Inoue. On average, with a fighter of this age, the results are predictable, even though they are indeed underdogs.

[robelneo]

I like how GGG is so cool, it doesn't change anything though because the real battle is in the ring. What we have to expect is that both fighters will give us a good fight and a clean fight because they respected each other. I hope Canelo will not underestimate GGG as he might experience his two straight loss if he will get too complacent.

GGG has always been cool in all of his fights between the two he is the more professional one, it's quite surprising that Canelo is acting like he has something personal against GGG, well we cannot blame him he is coming from a loss and he cannot afford to lose again, he will slip down further, it's his task to beat GGG convincingly this time and GGG's job is to spoil his comeback trail

[Russlenat]

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

Nothing to argue. If GGG still loses this fight or if somehow another draw happened, he will be retiring his belt with a loss from Canelo. It's good to see him more aggressive in terms of knocking Canelo down for a better score card. The two past fight gives Canelo edge, though the very first one was a draw and the second one was scored in favor of Alvarez.

We don't know how these fights will end, but fans are waiting for these two heavyweights to exchange solid punches.

Both are good in terms of accepting a solid combo and remain standing. Better luck takers..

That's the best thing to do, retire if he fails again because people will still remember him as a great fighter. Nothing to prove anymore, he already did everything but it's just that Canelo has youth over him and that is his advantage.

[Baofeng]

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

Nothing to argue. If GGG still loses this fight or if somehow another draw happened, he will be retiring his belt with a loss from Canelo. It's good to see him more aggressive in terms of knocking Canelo down for a better score card. The two past fight gives Canelo edge, though the very first one was a draw and the second one was scored in favor of Alvarez.

We don't know how these fights will end, but fans are waiting for these two heavyweights to exchange solid punches.

Both are good in terms of accepting a solid combo and remain standing. Better luck takers..

That's the best thing to do, retire if he fails again because people will still remember him as a great fighter. Nothing to prove anymore, he already did everything but it's just that Canelo has youth over him and that is his advantage.

I think GGG will still have one fight in his arsenal if ever he will lose to Canelo in the trilogy and maybe that's it. And if the fight goes to distance and another controversy, we might again see another fight. But if Canelo wins in a decisive and resounding way, it's going to be over, Canelo closing the books in their rivalry. So this is very important fight for either of them and we are very exciting to see this fight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Yeah, GGG is always cool in this face off but you can see that he is not intimidated by Canelo. There is mutual respect but you can feel that there is really some hostility between the two. I'm just lost though, the 2 fights where contested in 160 right? GGG best weight, and then this time it will be 168 lbs? so it means this is Canelo's comfortable weight. So we might see the best version of Canelo here against GGG moving up in this weight class.

No personal enmity between the two. But that said, Golovkin has spoken to the media on multiple occasions about his displeasure regarding the scoring. He believe that the first fight was stolen from him, and the scoring for second one was also not fair. And he is further aggrieved by the fact that Canelo refused to fight him immediately after the second fight. GGG wanted a fight in 2019. Anyway, less than three months remain, and I am sure that this fight is going to be the most exciting one we have for the last 1-2 years. 

Then he has to make sure that he can knockout Canelo so there be no more unfair scoring from the judges. The fight is going to be exciting, this is the last chance of GGG to prove that he really is the better fighter like he believe because if he still lose by the judges scorecards, then I think there's no bias in the last 2 fights.

That's easier said than done, we've seen their last two fights and there are instances where GGG is able to hit Canelo with some solid shots but Canelo is still standing. Both fighters can take the power of their respective punches so they can trade punches and that makes the fight more exciting. It's a trilogy (probably the last), so let's expect that they'll give everything they have especially GGG who is trying to win a fight.

Right, solid chin as in the first two fights, we've seen them hitting each other with solid shots and yet no one was even affected and it went to the distance. But then again, we will have to look at the age of GGG if he can still take the much punishment in the hands of Canelo in this 3rd fight. But it seems he looks very fresh in the Murata fight and won the fight hands down, but Canelo was slow at 175 lbs. But we can't say if this is going to be GGG's last fight. Boxers tend to fight just one last fight before they hang up their gloves for real.

[Maslate]

He already reached his limitation, he cannot challenge Bivol again, or other champions in a higher division, he just has to stay in a division where he reigns before he will retire, and winning this fight against GGG would be a good comeback from a bad defeat against Bivol.

One loss and already reached his limitation? He can come back again. He just needs to be fully prepared physically and mentally. I think he is too confident that's why he was being surprised by Bivol. Now that he knows how fighting Bivol is, he can ask for a rematch later in the future. But it's not simple as Bivol is chasing titles. Canelo should bring a title of his own first before he can face Bivol again. Bivol is fighting for titles and not to destroy popular names.

Winning against GGG is not a considered comeback too. GGG is old enough. Not any impact if Canelo wins here.

I think we're already past that part where Canelo is too confident against any opponent he'd face especially that he's not that comfortable in light-heavy, we know that he's not like that. The thing is he was surprised and that added weight reduced his speed and makes him readable at times.

We saw how frustrated Canelo on the ring because he don't much against Bivol, well let's see if he's going for a rematch and I hope that rematch won't be a replay.

[harizen]

But it seems he looks very fresh in the Murata fight and won the fight hands down, but Canelo was slow at 175 lbs. But we can't say if this is going to be GGG's last fight. Boxers tend to fight just one last fight before they hang up their gloves for real.

GGG received lots of open shots by Murata in the early rounds. That is supposed to be an easy dodge for GGG but still, Murata is able to connect lots of it.

If those punches are much strong, GGG might end up being knocked out. We really see that GGG is now showing signs of slowing down but still, his durability is still strong. I just hope those punches that GGG receives by Murata won't happen here against Canelo. GGG should not allow again being a punching bag at early rounds as Canelo is different from Murata.

It's risky to receive early blows on the early rounds as he might not recover like what he did against Murata.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

But it seems he looks very fresh in the Murata fight and won the fight hands down, but Canelo was slow at 175 lbs. But we can't say if this is going to be GGG's last fight. Boxers tend to fight just one last fight before they hang up their gloves for real.

GGG received lots of open shots by Murata in the early rounds. That is supposed to be an easy dodge for GGG but still, Murata is able to connect lots of it.

If those punches are much strong, GGG might end up being knocked out. We really see that GGG is now showing signs of slowing down but still, his durability is still strong. I just hope those punches that GGG receives by Murata won't happen here against Canelo. GGG should not allow again being a punching bag at early rounds as Canelo is different from Murata.

It's risky to receive early blows on the early rounds as he might not recover like what he did against Murata.

After this second fight with Canelo, he fought Sergiy Derevyanchenko, then Kamil Szeremeta you can say that argument that he was also hit more than in this fight specially Derevyanchenko but he managed to win by UD and then against Murata although we seen hm take more punches again still he won that fight via TKO. So GGG still holds a better chin that I don't think that even Canelo can break it down.

And again, you can also used your argument against Canelo here, he was hit with volumes by Bivol, a true LHW and with power, does it mean he has been soften up?

[Fredomago]

That's the best thing to do, retire if he fails again because people will still remember him as a great fighter. Nothing to prove anymore, he already did everything but it's just that Canelo has youth over him and that is his advantage.

Indeed, there's nothing to prove as he already have this moment inside the ring where he impress his fans, it's just that Canelo have that straight to stand over him and beats him in a judge decisions, but all in GGG's careers, he don't have to dictate his achievement as fans will continue to remember him as one of the tough fighters in his division.

Can't wait to see them both inside the ring and try to put down one another, for the glory of sports and the entertainment of the fans.

[inthelongrun]

True. This is an old GGG moving up in weight against a prime Canelo. We should not forget that Canelo lost in his last fight because he moved up in weight. He is still undefeated and undisputed in super middleweight. Did Canelo even suffered even a single knockdown in his career? I guess no. When's the last time Canelo got seriously wobbled? Probably against Jose Cotto when he was still a boy? I say there's a big chance Canelo is the one stopping GGG this time.

That would be a big win from him if he could really stop GGG.

Their last two fights are controversial because GGG still believes that the judging was unfair and he does not believe he lose in that fight. By saying stopping, are you referring to Canelo knocking out GGG? If that's what you meant, then we will surely have a very entertaining fight.

Yes. I pick Canelo to knockout this old version of GGG. But of course, I hope I am wrong. I am a huge GGG. Been a fan of him since he was chasing Felix Sturm's WBA belt. I always admire fighters that are championship level despite lesser fights like Lomachenko, Usyk, Inoue, etc.  

Canelo is always favored by the judges ever since. He is probably the only ATG with too many questionable scores like Mayweather, Trout, Lara, GGG 2x, Bivol and many more. Even when he was clearly out pointed by Floyd Mayweather two to one, it was only a majority decision.

Last weekend, another mid to late 30s got knocked out. The ever durable Thai Srisaket Sor Rungvisai. He was the conqueror of then undefeated and then Ring Magazine pound for pound king Chocolatito Gonzales. He joined Donaire. Is GGG next?