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July 07, 2022, 10:30:18 PM
 #461

Obviously Canelo has the advantage because he won the last fight, and if you will look at the previous post, you will see that Canelo is heavily favored in this fight. You can bet on Canelo to win, but mind you, the betting odds are very low, hence your winning will not be as much if you win.

Canelo winning in their rematch is not an advantage. How does it become an advantage for Canelo? If that was a dominant win by Canelo, no one will even bother to get this trilogy done. If it's a clean win, there should be no trilogy now but look at what happened?

This trilogy was being asked for several years now because that wasn't really a smooth win by Canelo. There are questions that needed to be answered and the trilogy will settle it all. It's always an advantage to Canelo that he's younger since I, II, and this upcoming III.

But watching those 2 previous fights, can we really say that Canelo has all the advantages? No.

Can't really say that Canelo alone has all the advantage in their 2 previous fights, GGG was much younger that time too that's why Canelo really struggled in the those 2 said fights. The first fight was declared draw and the 2nd was a majority decision in favor of Canelo but that fight doesn't show that Canelo is more dominant that's why a trilogy was called years ago but Canelo didn't let it happen as he quite knew that the score might be settled to 1-1-1.

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July 08, 2022, 12:35:02 AM
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Can't really say that Canelo alone has all the advantage in their 2 previous fights, GGG was much younger that time too that's why Canelo really struggled in the those 2 said fights. The first fight was declared draw and the 2nd was a majority decision in favor of Canelo but that fight doesn't show that Canelo is more dominant that's why a trilogy was called years ago but Canelo didn't let it happen as he quite knew that the score might be settled to 1-1-1.

The trilogy fight was originally proposed in 2019, but Canelo delayed it for three years. I don't know why he ran away from the fight, as he knows that the jury is on his side. Look at the fight between Canelo and Bivol. Bivol completely dominated the match, but according to the official scorecard, it was a narrow victory for him. The same happened with Golovkin for his first two fights as well. He didn't got as many points as he would have got, and as a result lost the second match to Canelo. This time there will be a lot more scrutiny.

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July 08, 2022, 01:26:59 AM
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Can't really say that Canelo alone has all the advantage in their 2 previous fights, GGG was much younger that time too that's why Canelo really struggled in the those 2 said fights. The first fight was declared draw and the 2nd was a majority decision in favor of Canelo but that fight doesn't show that Canelo is more dominant that's why a trilogy was called years ago but Canelo didn't let it happen as he quite knew that the score might be settled to 1-1-1.

The trilogy fight was originally proposed in 2019, but Canelo delayed it for three years. I don't know why he ran away from the fight, as he knows that the jury is on his side. Look at the fight between Canelo and Bivol. Bivol completely dominated the match, but according to the official scorecard, it was a narrow victory for him. The same happened with Golovkin for his first two fights as well. He didn't got as many points as he would have got, and as a result lost the second match to Canelo. This time there will be a lot more scrutiny.

For sure, a lot of eyes will be on this fight, we've already witnessed two great fight between the two and it's hard to score.

We haven't know the judges yet right? So we can't speculate if they are going to be biased or least see their record as well judging previous that. Because if it will be another questionable judges then I would say that GGG would have to win convincingly, even close to get a knock to secure his win.

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July 08, 2022, 12:42:56 PM
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Can't really say that Canelo alone has all the advantage in their 2 previous fights, GGG was much younger that time too that's why Canelo really struggled in the those 2 said fights. The first fight was declared draw and the 2nd was a majority decision in favor of Canelo but that fight doesn't show that Canelo is more dominant that's why a trilogy was called years ago but Canelo didn't let it happen as he quite knew that the score might be settled to 1-1-1.

The trilogy fight was originally proposed in 2019, but Canelo delayed it for three years. I don't know why he ran away from the fight, as he knows that the jury is on his side. Look at the fight between Canelo and Bivol. Bivol completely dominated the match, but according to the official scorecard, it was a narrow victory for him. The same happened with Golovkin for his first two fights as well. He didn't got as many points as he would have got, and as a result lost the second match to Canelo. This time there will be a lot more scrutiny.

For sure, a lot of eyes will be on this fight, we've already witnessed two great fight between the two and it's hard to score.

We haven't know the judges yet right? So we can't speculate if they are going to be biased or least see their record as well judging previous that. Because if it will be another questionable judges then I would say that GGG would have to win convincingly, even close to get a knock to secure his win.

That is for sure, no doubt! This fight might not be that interested anymore because it was very delayed by Canelo but there I bet that there is still many people and fans of both sides who will surely watch this fight. Also, people are not taking this chances slip because this might be GGG's last dance in his career.
As for the judges, we can't still say about that but the fight will be held at T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas.

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July 08, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
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Both fighters are good at absorbing those solid punches. They've been tested by many fights from their early careers, the two early fights
ends up with decisions, these two fighters are not willing to fall down, both have strong chin and they know how to use the advantage to
Continue facing their opponent even they've been hit many times. We can only conclude who's going to win after the announcer calls the
name of the winner.

Canelo owned the judges on those 2 fights. Just an assumption for me but it's clear GGG won 2 of their previous meeting. There will be no massive demand by most boxing fans to make the trilogy happen if there's no question about Canelo winning the second meeting.

GGG is just even silent because he knows what really happened.

I like GGG to give Canelo another to make his mouth shut. Just recently, Canelo trash talk GGG but the latter didn't respond. What bad behavior from Canelo.
If the truth is that I did not like what Canelo said, first of all, each boxer has to give respect so that they respect him, for me that is unsportsmanlike conduct, it is also not appropriate, there are times that the public also sees it children on their tv, and this is not pleasant for them to demonstrate these things, it is a bad example, on the other hand, the judges are something else, as I said before, if the judges in the past Olympics were cheeky with a verdict that was very biased, so what remains for this type of event where there is a lot of interest, bets of large amounts of money happens.

There are super athletes who can't really shut their mouth even if they losses, like Canelo, he said that he did enough to win in the Bivol fight. But we all witnessed that he was outgun by the young and taller opponent giving him his second lost in his career. And same here, Canelo is talking hard against GGG, of course they are rivals and this is their 3rd fight. But if GGG won, will Canelo not talk about this defeat and says that he should have won it? We will see, too much at stake in this fight.

Personally, I'm more rooting to GGG on this fight and I'd love to see him hang his gloves as a champion and had won his last fight. It's not that I don't want Canelo to win this thing but if I were going to pick one winner then that should be GGG. Unfortunately, that is not how the game works and Canelo surely had the most advantage this time for sure but I'm still confident that GGG can still handle Canelo well, he may be 40 years old already but he's not that easy to defeat.

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July 08, 2022, 01:23:50 PM
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...he may be 40 years old already but he's not that easy to defeat.
I agree with that because in the last two fights against Canelo, all were controversial fights that's why we have this trilogy, who knows, maybe GGG will surprise the boxing community and he will KO Canelo Alvarez, I'm sure lots of bettors will be happy due to the good odds.



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July 08, 2022, 05:01:14 PM
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...he may be 40 years old already but he's not that easy to defeat.
I agree with that because in the last two fights against Canelo, all were controversial fights that's why we have this trilogy, who knows, maybe GGG will surprise the boxing community and he will KO Canelo Alvarez, I'm sure lots of bettors will be happy due to the good odds.

I don't know. I want Golovkin to win, but at the same time, expecting him to knock out one of the best boxers in the world right now will be a bit of over expectation. If Golovkin somehow wins, I don't think that it will be from KO. I don't think that at 40 years, he has the power to do KO to Canelo. And then again, if it comes to points, then Canelo will be having an advantage. So overall, chances for a GGG victory is pretty small. But upsets do happen in boxing and that is why I am hopeful of a Golovkin victory in September.

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...he may be 40 years old already but he's not that easy to defeat.
I agree with that because in the last two fights against Canelo, all were controversial fights that's why we have this trilogy, who knows, maybe GGG will surprise the boxing community and he will KO Canelo Alvarez, I'm sure lots of bettors will be happy due to the good odds.
It was indeed controversial because Canelo haven't won the 2nd fight with an exceptional result that it would say that a trilogy will not be needed but it was a majority decision because the other judge wanted a draw and the other two voted for Canelo. What I'm trying to say is that it's not a comfortable win on Canelo's side and I think that is also why Canelo didn't give GGG the trilogy he wanted years early.

GGG still have an edge against Canelo but I think a KO is really to much here, but who knows what kind of upset could present at the day of their fight.

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Can't really say that Canelo alone has all the advantage in their 2 previous fights, GGG was much younger that time too that's why Canelo really struggled in the those 2 said fights. The first fight was declared draw and the 2nd was a majority decision in favor of Canelo but that fight doesn't show that Canelo is more dominant that's why a trilogy was called years ago but Canelo didn't let it happen as he quite knew that the score might be settled to 1-1-1.

The trilogy fight was originally proposed in 2019, but Canelo delayed it for three years. I don't know why he ran away from the fight, as he knows that the jury is on his side. Look at the fight between Canelo and Bivol. Bivol completely dominated the match, but according to the official scorecard, it was a narrow victory for him. The same happened with Golovkin for his first two fights as well. He didn't got as many points as he would have got, and as a result lost the second match to Canelo. This time there will be a lot more scrutiny.

There is only one reason to explain that, Canelo Alvarez cannot really afford to have an additional defeat in his record that is why he denied GGG a trilogy last 2019 when it was first proposed. Sure the jury will be on his side trying to cover and help him in terms of score just like what they did recently against Bivol, but what if Canelo will be knocked out? I don't think the jury can still help him if that is the situation.

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There is only one reason to explain that, Canelo Alvarez cannot really afford to have an additional defeat in his record that is why he denied GGG a trilogy last 2019 when it was first proposed. Sure the jury will be on his side trying to cover and help him in terms of score just like what they did recently against Bivol, but what if Canelo will be knocked out? I don't think the jury can still help him if that is the situation.

LOL.. the easiest way for Golovkin to win would be to knockout Canelo. But the big question is whether he can do it at this age. If it gets to decision by the jury, then it is going to be tricky for GGG. And the indications are not very encouraging. Even during the fight between Canelo and Bivol, there were accusation of bias from the judges (obviously favoring Canelo). Anyway, at this point Golovkin doesn't have much to lose, and in all probability he will not make much noise even if he is not satisfied with the scoring.

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Can't really say that Canelo alone has all the advantage in their 2 previous fights, GGG was much younger that time too that's why Canelo really struggled in the those 2 said fights. The first fight was declared draw and the 2nd was a majority decision in favor of Canelo but that fight doesn't show that Canelo is more dominant that's why a trilogy was called years ago but Canelo didn't let it happen as he quite knew that the score might be settled to 1-1-1.

The trilogy fight was originally proposed in 2019, but Canelo delayed it for three years. I don't know why he ran away from the fight, as he knows that the jury is on his side. Look at the fight between Canelo and Bivol. Bivol completely dominated the match, but according to the official scorecard, it was a narrow victory for him. The same happened with Golovkin for his first two fights as well. He didn't got as many points as he would have got, and as a result lost the second match to Canelo. This time there will be a lot more scrutiny.

For sure, a lot of eyes will be on this fight, we've already witnessed two great fight between the two and it's hard to score.

We haven't know the judges yet right? So we can't speculate if they are going to be biased or least see their record as well judging previous that. Because if it will be another questionable judges then I would say that GGG would have to win convincingly, even close to get a knock to secure his win.

That is for sure, no doubt! This fight might not be that interested anymore because it was very delayed by Canelo but there I bet that there is still many people and fans of both sides who will surely watch this fight. Also, people are not taking this chances slip because this might be GGG's last dance in his career.
As for the judges, we can't still say about that but the fight will be held at T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas.

It could be his last fight, if it is in Las Vegas, not sure, maybe they will be biased again on Canelo.

And as what @Sithara007 said, GGG should win by knock out so that there will be no doubt or question. But can he do it at? I highly doubt it. So gonna be hard for GGG, it need to be very powerful and resounding that the judges are willing to score the round and then the fight for him.

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There is only one reason to explain that, Canelo Alvarez cannot really afford to have an additional defeat in his record that is why he denied GGG a trilogy last 2019 when it was first proposed. Sure the jury will be on his side trying to cover and help him in terms of score just like what they did recently against Bivol, but what if Canelo will be knocked out? I don't think the jury can still help him if that is the situation.

LOL.. the easiest way for Golovkin to win would be to knockout Canelo. But the big question is whether he can do it at this age. If it gets to decision by the jury, then it is going to be tricky for GGG.

There's no doubt that he can do that at his age, the question is can he find an open shot to hit Canelo Hard? GGG is old, might be slower a bit but he still got his power, so if Canelo would be too complacent and would underestimate GGG, then we might see a huge upset here. 

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There is only one reason to explain that, Canelo Alvarez cannot really afford to have an additional defeat in his record that is why he denied GGG a trilogy last 2019 when it was first proposed. Sure the jury will be on his side trying to cover and help him in terms of score just like what they did recently against Bivol, but what if Canelo will be knocked out? I don't think the jury can still help him if that is the situation.

LOL.. the easiest way for Golovkin to win would be to knockout Canelo. But the big question is whether he can do it at this age. If it gets to decision by the jury, then it is going to be tricky for GGG.

There's no doubt that he can do that at his age, the question is can he find an open shot to hit Canelo Hard? GGG is old, might be slower a bit but he still got his power, so if Canelo would be too complacent and would underestimate GGG, then we might see a huge upset here. 

But Canelo has a granite chin, not even a legitimate light-heavyweight can crack that. He even didn't flinch when GGG hit him solid during their 2 fights. And as he age, maybe the power is no longer there, or the effect of it diminishing as time goes by.

Unless it was really perfect that Canelo didn't anticipated it and then GGG flushing him with that huge left hook and then Canelo going down in the canvass and can't beat the count.

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July 09, 2022, 08:58:13 AM
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There's no doubt that he can do that at his age, the question is can he find an open shot to hit Canelo Hard? GGG is old, might be slower a bit but he still got his power, so if Canelo would be too complacent and would underestimate GGG, then we might see a huge upset here. 
Canelo has an iron chin and he has been tested against Bivol who a knock out artist, but he can still survive even Bivol did punches him many times in every rounds. Bivol is more faster than GGG too, so I doubt GGG could knock out Canelo. In other sides, GGG is really hard to win via decision due to don't have reach advantages and biased jury favor on Canelo. If GGG is a boxer who have a fight style of take less damage or dodge like Haney or Mayweather, there's a chance GGG will win via decision.
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There's no doubt that he can do that at his age, the question is can he find an open shot to hit Canelo Hard? GGG is old, might be slower a bit but he still got his power, so if Canelo would be too complacent and would underestimate GGG, then we might see a huge upset here. 
Canelo has an iron chin and he has been tested against Bivol who a knock out artist, but he can still survive even Bivol did punches him many times in every rounds. Bivol is more faster than GGG too, so I doubt GGG could knock out Canelo. In other sides, GGG is really hard to win via decision due to don't have reach advantages and biased jury favor on Canelo. If GGG is a boxer who have a fight style of take less damage or dodge like Haney or Mayweather, there's a chance GGG will win via decision.
GGG would be boring if he is like Mayweather, I like his style and I think that's what makes him popular. He maybe older but we never know, this is boxing and we don't know the condition of the boxers fighting on a certain day, so I just hope that GGG will give everything in his last fight with Canelo.
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There's no doubt that he can do that at his age, the question is can he find an open shot to hit Canelo Hard? GGG is old, might be slower a bit but he still got his power, so if Canelo would be too complacent and would underestimate GGG, then we might see a huge upset here. 
Canelo has an iron chin and he has been tested against Bivol who a knock out artist, but he can still survive even Bivol did punches him many times in every rounds. Bivol is more faster than GGG too, so I doubt GGG could knock out Canelo. In other sides, GGG is really hard to win via decision due to don't have reach advantages and biased jury favor on Canelo. If GGG is a boxer who have a fight style of take less damage or dodge like Haney or Mayweather, there's a chance GGG will win via decision.

It's good to see if GGG will turn into a boxer, but I doubt that he will do it against Canelo. And he will never win in the judges eye if he goes on defense like Haney or Floyd or being the technical boxer. Sure he can make Canelo miss, but still he has to score points in return. I think it will still be the same GGG, who will confront Canelo every round and will exchange punch after punch.
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There's no doubt that he can do that at his age, the question is can he find an open shot to hit Canelo Hard? GGG is old, might be slower a bit but he still got his power, so if Canelo would be too complacent and would underestimate GGG, then we might see a huge upset here. 
Canelo has an iron chin and he has been tested against Bivol who a knock out artist, but he can still survive even Bivol did punches him many times in every rounds. Bivol is more faster than GGG too, so I doubt GGG could knock out Canelo. In other sides, GGG is really hard to win via decision due to don't have reach advantages and biased jury favor on Canelo. If GGG is a boxer who have a fight style of take less damage or dodge like Haney or Mayweather, there's a chance GGG will win via decision.

It's good to see if GGG will turn into a boxer, but I doubt that he will do it against Canelo. And he will never win in the judges eye if he goes on defense like Haney or Floyd or being the technical boxer. Sure he can make Canelo miss, but still he has to score points in return. I think it will still be the same GGG, who will confront Canelo every round and will exchange punch after punch.

There's nothing to change in the style of GGG, his style is very effective, it's just that he loses in the last fight via a close decision by the judges. We were actually entertained in the last 2 fights, so if GGG will turn into Mayweather or Haney style, do you think people would appreciate him?

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Canelo has an iron chin and he has been tested against Bivol who a knock out artist, but he can still survive even Bivol did punches him many times in every rounds. Bivol is more faster than GGG too, so I doubt GGG could knock out Canelo. In other sides, GGG is really hard to win via decision due to don't have reach advantages and biased jury favor on Canelo. If GGG is a boxer who have a fight style of take less damage or dodge like Haney or Mayweather, there's a chance GGG will win via decision.

Even with that iron chin, why did Canelo push through on his limits in those 2 fights against GGG?

It shows that iron chin is not a big issue when facing GGG and he knows already how Canelo fight.

No need for a knockout win but GGG just has to do his usual style.

But I agree with the later part of your statement that it's hard to win against judges while fighting Canelo. A cash cow should be protected at all costs. GGG needs to do the same result as Bivol did where judges have no chance to ruin the scorecard in favor of Canelo.

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But I agree with the later part of your statement that it's hard to win against judges while fighting Canelo. A cash cow should be protected at all costs. GGG needs to do the same result as Bivol did where judges have no chance to ruin the scorecard in favor of Canelo.

If Canelo loses this match, then his career will be ruined. I am sure that the judges will do all they can to avoid that. Given the massive fan base of Mexican Americans within the United States, it is beneficial for the promoters if Canelo wins. That said, there are a few points to consider here. Canelo is no longer associated with Golden Boy (he was with them for the first two fights) and he is having a deal with Eddie Hearn. On top of that, Canelo had a well publicized spat with Oscar De La Hoya, who is the founder of Golden Boy Promotions.

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There's no doubt that he can do that at his age, the question is can he find an open shot to hit Canelo Hard? GGG is old, might be slower a bit but he still got his power, so if Canelo would be too complacent and would underestimate GGG, then we might see a huge upset here. 
Canelo has an iron chin and he has been tested against Bivol who a knock out artist, but he can still survive even Bivol did punches him many times in every rounds. Bivol is more faster than GGG too, so I doubt GGG could knock out Canelo. In other sides, GGG is really hard to win via decision due to don't have reach advantages and biased jury favor on Canelo. If GGG is a boxer who have a fight style of take less damage or dodge like Haney or Mayweather, there's a chance GGG will win via decision.

It's good to see if GGG will turn into a boxer, but I doubt that he will do it against Canelo. And he will never win in the judges eye if he goes on defense like Haney or Floyd or being the technical boxer. Sure he can make Canelo miss, but still he has to score points in return. I think it will still be the same GGG, who will confront Canelo every round and will exchange punch after punch.

There's nothing to change in the style of GGG, his style is very effective, it's just that he loses in the last fight via a close decision by the judges. We were actually entertained in the last 2 fights, so if GGG will turn into Mayweather or Haney style, do you think people would appreciate him?

Exactly mate! GGG will maintain his fighting style because that is what his fans and people are looking for and they loved GGG that way, frankly, it's not new that Canelo has the favor of the judges if the score comes to the judge's hand and we saw it again recently when Canelo fought Bivol. The judges tried to help Canelo in that fight in-terms of the score but they couldn't just let Canelo win as it was really clear that he was outboxed by Bivol who was more comfortable at the weight.

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