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August 04, 2022, 12:37:14 PM |
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Yes, it seems to me that the upcoming fight will not be spectacular, each of the boxers understands what any mistake can turn out for him and it is unlikely that we will see, although of course we would like an open fight based on a knockout.
Their punches could knockout if on a different boxers, it's just that both have a strong body and a granite chin, so we will unlikely to see a KO but a entertaining fight is always guaranteed in this fight. Canelo by Decision, that's likely the outcome, but I like to see GGG by KO. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not just they have granite chin, but they have an unbelievable punch resistance too, and that makes this fighter really very special in the MW and Super MW division. But iin boxing, we can't only speculate as whether that chin will hold or not. We've seen so many legendary boxers who have a strong chin, however, it was broken when you least expect of them. And as the voting goes, we want GGG to win, and it will be a very satisfiying win if he is the fight one to break that granite chin of Canelo (it will be a long shot).
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August 04, 2022, 02:35:37 PM |
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Yes, it seems to me that the upcoming fight will not be spectacular, each of the boxers understands what any mistake can turn out for him and it is unlikely that we will see, although of course we would like an open fight based on a knockout.
Their punches could knockout if on a different boxers, it's just that both have a strong body and a granite chin, so we will unlikely to see a KO but a entertaining fight is always guaranteed in this fight. Canelo by Decision, that's likely the outcome, but I like to see GGG by KO. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Well.. I agree with you 100%. If I think using my heart, then I would say GGG would win by KO. In case I use my brain, then I agree with you that the most likely outcome is Canelo by decision. Still, let's remember that Golovkin hasn't yet lost a fight in his professional boxing career. And don't tell me that he lost to Canelo in 2018. I am not ready to accept that result. IMO, either the fight could have been declared as a draw, or a win for Golovkin (if the jury was unbiased). Canelo on the other hand lost 3 times. First to Floyd Mayweather in 2013, then against Golovkin in 2017 (although the jury didn't agreed) and then again, to Bivol in 2022.
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And now you will hear good old song named "GGG is old" or "40 years for boxing is a sentence". Among 35 pages havent found any other reasons why Canelo would win. GGG is going to be sooooo slow, that Canelo is going to be like Flash from DC comix universe. For a regular person yes, 40 y.o is going to be slower than 32 y.o guy. But for a person that is a professional athlete, age will not be a decisive factor.
Personally, I am not going to watch this fight. Because imho they both have identical skills and judges are not going to obvious again this time. When such super pro boxer fight, I only accept victory over KO/TKO.
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August 04, 2022, 03:19:36 PM |
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Yes, it seems to me that the upcoming fight will not be spectacular, each of the boxers understands what any mistake can turn out for him and it is unlikely that we will see, although of course we would like an open fight based on a knockout.
Their punches could knockout if on a different boxers, it's just that both have a strong body and a granite chin, so we will unlikely to see a KO but a entertaining fight is always guaranteed in this fight. Canelo by Decision, that's likely the outcome, but I like to see GGG by KO. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Well.. I agree with you 100%. If I think using my heart, then I would say GGG would win by KO. In case I use my brain, then I agree with you that the most likely outcome is Canelo by decision. Still, let's remember that Golovkin hasn't yet lost a fight in his professional boxing career. And don't tell me that he lost to Canelo in 2018. I am not ready to accept that result. IMO, either the fight could have been declared as a draw, or a win for Golovkin (if the jury was unbiased). Canelo on the other hand lost 3 times. First to Floyd Mayweather in 2013, then against Golovkin in 2017 (although the jury didn't agreed) and then again, to Bivol in 2022. I will echo your sentiments, our hearts will says we want GGG to win in the 3rd fight. But our mind will choose Canelo because he is still on this prime despite his lost to Bivol. And we can argue that it was a weight class that he shouldn't messed with as he "swallow more than you can chew". There were even arguments as well that he lost to Lara, during this 154 lbs fight if my memory serves me right (so I might be wrong here).
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August 04, 2022, 04:47:27 PM |
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Yes, it seems to me that the upcoming fight will not be spectacular, each of the boxers understands what any mistake can turn out for him and it is unlikely that we will see, although of course we would like an open fight based on a knockout.
Their punches could knockout if on a different boxers, it's just that both have a strong body and a granite chin, so we will unlikely to see a KO but a entertaining fight is always guaranteed in this fight. Canelo by Decision, that's likely the outcome, but I like to see GGG by KO. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Well.. I agree with you 100%. If I think using my heart, then I would say GGG would win by KO. In case I use my brain, then I agree with you that the most likely outcome is Canelo by decision. Still, let's remember that Golovkin hasn't yet lost a fight in his professional boxing career. And don't tell me that he lost to Canelo in 2018. I am not ready to accept that result. IMO, either the fight could have been declared as a draw, or a win for Golovkin (if the jury was unbiased). Canelo on the other hand lost 3 times. First to Floyd Mayweather in 2013, then against Golovkin in 2017 (although the jury didn't agreed) and then again, to Bivol in 2022. I will echo your sentiments, our hearts will says we want GGG to win in the 3rd fight. But our mind will choose Canelo because he is still on this prime despite his lost to Bivol. And we can argue that it was a weight class that he shouldn't messed with as he "swallow more than you can chew". There were even arguments as well that he lost to Lara, during this 154 lbs fight if my memory serves me right (so I might be wrong here). No argument with that, Canelo is still in his prime and he can still dominate this division, though in the back of my mind it's GGG who he will be dealing with and knowing the history of these two rivals, they both wanted to beat one another. We can only conclude the outcome after we hear the announcement, I'm just really aiming to see that a KO may happen, so deciding the fight is more easier and the fans will accept without any doubt.
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No argument with that, Canelo is still in his prime and he can still dominate this division, though in the back of my mind it's GGG
who he will be dealing with and knowing the history of these two rivals, they both wanted to beat one another. I always think that GGG was robbed in his first two-fight against Canelo. So it should have been GGG dominating the division if it wasn't for the corruption. We can only conclude the outcome after we hear the announcement, I'm just really aiming to see that a KO may happen, so deciding the fight is more easier
and the fans will accept without any doubt.
I hope GGG delivers that KO on Canelo in order to seal a win in this third fight. Else, no matter how good GGG performs in the entire boxing match, Canelo might win again if it comes to the judges' decision. Basing my statement on their two previous fight results.
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In the unlikely scenario of Golovkin winning the trilogy fight, we can't rule out a fourth fight between these two boxers.
I agree with this, if GGG wins then the trilogy will be tied with a slight edge to GGG due to his age and the fact that many fans think that at least one of the fights was stolen from him. If GGG won then Canelo will want to fight him again to get the score against GGG in his favor again, and since GGG does not have too many fights left in him another fight with Canelo will be a good idea, as the amount of money he will receive will be way better than whatever any other boxer could offer him. Well, partly when these boxers lost some of their matches like Canelo, I had lost a bit of interest in seeing this fight, because for me it would have been more epic if both were undefeated, but seeing that the fnas are still asking for this fight , I think it is very likely that it could happen, I would not know who could win and the trilogy will be fulfilled, I think it is something more iconic for the same trilogy, but it would be interesting, I really would not know who to bet on, both have the same opportunity to win, of course the way I see it, I don't know that boxeaod can somehow have an advantage over the other. No argument with that, Canelo is still in his prime and he can still dominate this division, though in the back of my mind it's GGG
who he will be dealing with and knowing the history of these two rivals, they both wanted to beat one another. I always think that GGG was robbed in his first two-fight against Canelo. So it should have been GGG dominating the division if it wasn't for the corruption. We can only conclude the outcome after we hear the announcement, I'm just really aiming to see that a KO may happen, so deciding the fight is more easier
and the fans will accept without any doubt.
I hope GGG delivers that KO on Canelo in order to seal a win in this third fight. Else, no matter how good GGG performs in the entire boxing match, Canelo might win again if it comes to the judges' decision. Basing my statement on their two previous fight results. You are not the first to think that they stole that fight from GGG, after seeing the performances of both fighters, I don't know what to think, for me Canelo has lost a lot, on the other hand GGG, despite everything, is still a boxer who inspires a lot respect, if I wanted the fight to take place, but from start to finish without showing anything technical, just explosiveness, seeing the maximum of the boxers, the fans need action, but good action, I just hope that things go as they should being, meanwhile it is difficult to make a prediction because I think they are both on the same level, I don't see any advantage of one over the other.
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Still a long discussion if we will talk about who win on that previous 2 fights. I mean the outcome favor Canelo on their second match, but in the eyes of GGG's fans; they have their own assessment and that's the reason why they will support GGG on this upcoming trilogy. If GGG will win, then a possible to have another fight for GGG either with Canelo again or he will be challenged by another top rank fighter in this division, the fate will be concluded right after the fight.
It was a controversial fight that's why this trilogy is necessary, if GGG will win, then the world will be celebrating. LOL Anyway, make sure you put your bet on this fight, if you are rooting for GGG, you should take the high odds as it's very attractive. Lastly, as a fan we are biased, so we will always say that our favorite fighter wins the previous fights. But if Canelo wins, then what will happen? The world will have a mourning? The world is celebrating because those two fight again. Since their second fight a lot has changed. I would say that both gained new experience and both a so much experienced, that that extra age that GGG had is not a real fight changer. Both are so great and identically skilled, that judges once again will those who will decide who won. We will just hope that this time there will be no help from the judges that will benefit either one of the two camps, we wanted a clean fair fight this time because this trilogy will be an indication of who really wins and probably be their last fight together. Personally, I'm rooting for both of them as they are both my favorite, I won't let this fight slide and as for the bets, I'll look into it soon because it's still too early for now.
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August 04, 2022, 09:53:32 PM |
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Still a long discussion if we will talk about who win on that previous 2 fights. I mean the outcome favor Canelo on their second match, but in the eyes of GGG's fans; they have their own assessment and that's the reason why they will support GGG on this upcoming trilogy. If GGG will win, then a possible to have another fight for GGG either with Canelo again or he will be challenged by another top rank fighter in this division, the fate will be concluded right after the fight.
It was a controversial fight that's why this trilogy is necessary, if GGG will win, then the world will be celebrating. LOL Anyway, make sure you put your bet on this fight, if you are rooting for GGG, you should take the high odds as it's very attractive. Lastly, as a fan we are biased, so we will always say that our favorite fighter wins the previous fights. But if Canelo wins, then what will happen? The world will have a mourning? The world is celebrating because those two fight again. Since their second fight a lot has changed. I would say that both gained new experience and both a so much experienced, that that extra age that GGG had is not a real fight changer. Both are so great and identically skilled, that judges once again will those who will decide who won. We will just hope that this time there will be no help from the judges that will benefit either one of the two camps, we wanted a clean fair fight this time because this trilogy will be an indication of who really wins and probably be their last fight together. Personally, I'm rooting for both of them as they are both my favorite, I won't let this fight slide and as for the bets, I'll look into it soon because it's still too early for now. Of course we do really want to have a clean fight and we dont really like to see that there would be some odd decisions that would come from judges from this fight. I dont see for Canelo to be retiring since this guy is already 32 years old as of this moment and if ever he would lost against GGG then it wont be enough reason for him to hang his gloves. This fight had been long rooted by both fans and this would really be closed totally on this upcoming trilogy which is really something interesting to look at.
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August 04, 2022, 11:31:01 PM |
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I hope GGG delivers that KO on Canelo in order to seal a win in this third fight. Else, no matter how good GGG performs in the entire boxing match, Canelo might win again if it comes to the judges' decision. Basing my statement on their two previous fight results.
I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring. And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.
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August 04, 2022, 11:40:01 PM |
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Of course we do really want to have a clean fight and we dont really like to see that there would be some odd decisions that would come from judges from this fight.
I dont see for Canelo to be retiring since this guy is already 32 years old as of this moment and if ever he would lost against GGG then it wont be enough reason for him to hang his gloves.
This fight had been long rooted by both fans and this would really be closed totally on this upcoming trilogy which is really something interesting to look at.
I think Canelo needs a KO victory in this third fight to clear all doubts about the previous fight. Many think that GGG should have won the first fight, while the view on the second part is quite debatable but it was sure that Canelo improves a lot more than in the first fight. But I know it is kinda hard to achieve because GGG is a very tough opponent.
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August 05, 2022, 01:36:24 AM |
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I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring.
And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.
I raised this topic (jury bias) a few weeks back, because I saw the same during the Bivol vs Canelo fight. Bivol completely dominated the fight between these two, but in the end the scorecard(115-113, 115-113, 115-113) was a lot closer than what I thought it should have been. The writing on the wall is clear. Canelo is the cash cow and he needs to be saved at any cost. A second consecutive defeat will not only sink his career, but will also cause huge losses to firms such as Golden Boy and DAZN.
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August 05, 2022, 03:44:08 AM |
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I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring.
And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.
I raised this topic (jury bias) a few weeks back, because I saw the same during the Bivol vs Canelo fight. Bivol completely dominated the fight between these two, but in the end the scorecard(115-113, 115-113, 115-113) was a lot closer than what I thought it should have been. The writing on the wall is clear. Canelo is the cash cow and he needs to be saved at any cost. A second consecutive defeat will not only sink his career, but will also cause huge losses to firms such as Golden Boy and DAZN. Really something that GGG should be ready of, he cannot just let the judges to dictate the outcome again, he should win via KO so no more biases. Well, I know GGG understands that already, so for sure he will be training hard to ensure that he would get a convincing win.
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August 05, 2022, 05:11:59 AM |
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I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring.
And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.
I raised this topic (jury bias) a few weeks back, because I saw the same during the Bivol vs Canelo fight. Bivol completely dominated the fight between these two, but in the end the scorecard(115-113, 115-113, 115-113) was a lot closer than what I thought it should have been. The writing on the wall is clear. Canelo is the cash cow and he needs to be saved at any cost. A second consecutive defeat will not only sink his career, but will also cause huge losses to firms such as Golden Boy and DAZN. Really something that GGG should be ready of, he cannot just let the judges to dictate the outcome again, he should win via KO so no more biases. Well, I know GGG understands that already, so for sure he will be training hard to ensure that he would get a convincing win. He is already in a retirement age, no way the judges will favor him, and although his fans think that he won the last two fights, but if his performance is still the same on the last two fights, then we should not be surprise of the outcome of this fight.
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August 05, 2022, 08:28:00 AM |
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I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring.
And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.
I raised this topic (jury bias) a few weeks back, because I saw the same during the Bivol vs Canelo fight. Bivol completely dominated the fight between these two, but in the end the scorecard(115-113, 115-113, 115-113) was a lot closer than what I thought it should have been. The writing on the wall is clear. Canelo is the cash cow and he needs to be saved at any cost. A second consecutive defeat will not only sink his career, but will also cause huge losses to firms such as Golden Boy and DAZN. Really something that GGG should be ready of, he cannot just let the judges to dictate the outcome again, he should win via KO so no more biases. Well, I know GGG understands that already, so for sure he will be training hard to ensure that he would get a convincing win. He is already in a retirement age, no way the judges will favor him, and although his fans think that he won the last two fights, but if his performance is still the same on the last two fights, then we should not be surprise of the outcome of this fight. Regardless of his performance, if he will not win in this fight then for sure we will not anymore see another fight. Though GGG might retire but since he didn't mentioned that, then we cannot expect that he will not fight after this fight. The best chance for him to still have a fight is if he will win against Canelo, yes, that's 2 consecutive losses of Canelo but he is not unbeatable so he could lose here.
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August 05, 2022, 11:02:28 AM |
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I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring.
And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.
I raised this topic (jury bias) a few weeks back, because I saw the same during the Bivol vs Canelo fight. Bivol completely dominated the fight between these two, but in the end the scorecard(115-113, 115-113, 115-113) was a lot closer than what I thought it should have been. The writing on the wall is clear. Canelo is the cash cow and he needs to be saved at any cost. A second consecutive defeat will not only sink his career, but will also cause huge losses to firms such as Golden Boy and DAZN. Really something that GGG should be ready of, he cannot just let the judges to dictate the outcome again, he should win via KO so no more biases. Well, I know GGG understands that already, so for sure he will be training hard to ensure that he would get a convincing win. He is already in a retirement age, no way the judges will favor him, and although his fans think that he won the last two fights, but if his performance is still the same on the last two fights, then we should not be surprise of the outcome of this fight. Regardless of his performance, if he will not win in this fight then for sure we will not anymore see another fight. Though GGG might retire but since he didn't mentioned that, then we cannot expect that he will not fight after this fight. The best chance for him to still have a fight is if he will win against Canelo, yes, that's 2 consecutive losses of Canelo but he is not unbeatable so he could lose here. We all know that from the last past fight between these two and for sure GGG and his camp will try to win with exclamation point. I mean, if he can KO Alvarez, he will really push in doing that, but for sure it won't be easy as Canelo is the top champ from this division and it will not be easy to put him down. GGG needs to find that lucky combination to bring him down and make sure that he will have a good edge in front of the fans and all the judges.
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August 05, 2022, 11:06:33 AM |
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I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring.
And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.
I raised this topic (jury bias) a few weeks back, because I saw the same during the Bivol vs Canelo fight. Bivol completely dominated the fight between these two, but in the end the scorecard(115-113, 115-113, 115-113) was a lot closer than what I thought it should have been. The writing on the wall is clear. Canelo is the cash cow and he needs to be saved at any cost. A second consecutive defeat will not only sink his career, but will also cause huge losses to firms such as Golden Boy and DAZN. Really something that GGG should be ready of, he cannot just let the judges to dictate the outcome again, he should win via KO so no more biases. Well, I know GGG understands that already, so for sure he will be training hard to ensure that he would get a convincing win. I think he knows that even in the first fight that's why he started very strong winning some early rounds. But Canelo adjusted and that should be enough for the judges to half the fight in draw. GGG pushes himself but we really don't know if Canelo did enough in the 2nd half of the fight to even merit that score from the judges. Same in the 2nd fight, Canelo is really fighting very hard and that fight could go either way, but judges still favor the cash cow Canelo and there are speculations inside that the judges did really favor Canelo to win to continue his rise to the top.
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August 05, 2022, 11:27:49 AM |
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...there are speculations inside that the judges did really favor Canelo to win to continue his rise to the top.
That's given, the speculation is everywhere but we have no proof about that, and if GGG believe that is the case, then no way he will win if he cannot knock out Canelo. Everyone is probably cheering to win, so let's see if this trilogy is a great opportunity for GGG to rise and reclaim himself.
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August 05, 2022, 05:04:59 PM |
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Yes, it seems to me that the upcoming fight will not be spectacular, each of the boxers understands what any mistake can turn out for him and it is unlikely that we will see, although of course we would like an open fight based on a knockout.
Their punches could knockout if on a different boxers, it's just that both have a strong body and a granite chin, so we will unlikely to see a KO but a entertaining fight is always guaranteed in this fight. Canelo by Decision, that's likely the outcome, but I like to see GGG by KO. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not just they have granite chin, but they have an unbelievable punch resistance too, and that makes this fighter really very special in the MW and Super MW division. But iin boxing, we can't only speculate as whether that chin will hold or not. We've seen so many legendary boxers who have a strong chin, however, it was broken when you least expect of them. And as the voting goes, we want GGG to win, and it will be a very satisfiying win if he is the fight one to break that granite chin of Canelo (it will be a long shot). Same here, I'm also rooting for GGG to win because he too deserves to win at least once in this series fight they had but that will really depend in this situation as Canelo is currently at the peak of his prime who is also determined not to have a back-to-back defeat. GGG might be aging though but we saw that his body can still withstand heavy punches as well as his chin, but let's see this October soon.
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August 05, 2022, 05:36:17 PM |
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Teddy Atlas expressed his opinion in his podcast about the second Canelo-GGG fight and the upcoming rematch, indeed, as he believes that "the old lion can roar for the last time" and it is obvious that the victory of GGG can only provide a clear advantage that does not cause doubt among the judges and here, it seems to me, Golovkin can only count on KO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyHI95xEqF0
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