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I feel like Golovkin will have to fight defensively in this match against Canelo. Golovkin will know that since he is an experienced veteran in this sport. Apparently, I believe that he will not have much time left in his career for some reason. There are probably very few fights left for him as well. I want him to win solely because of that. It’s not like I think he is not a capable fighter anymore. There is no doubt that he is a very capable fighter. In addition to that, he is also over 40 years old. With 42 wins, one draw, and only one loss in his career, he has achieved a remarkable record. I wish him the best of luck in making it to 43 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I say if GGG will play defensive, then we will expect Canelo will win via Unanimous decision since Canelo is the favorited boxer and landed more punches. GGG should learn to fight like Bivol strategy where he always hold his two arms to protect his face, while he let his arms to get punched. The thing is Bivol is more smarter than GGG since he can find the right moment to punch Canelo, I think he's know Canelo's pattern. But yeah it's a different boxers, maybe GGG is knowing what should he do in the trilogy fight. GGG needs to enhance his strategy. If he will stay with that same old one, Canelo might abuse him with another unanimous decision bookies. Consider Canelo still the favorite, as they saw this advantage from the two previous fights. Though yeah, it's different fighters inside the ring but if GGG will manage to study and learn how Bivol works with the timing, he might get that lucky combination and create a good opening. He needs to be more offensive. In my opinion, Canelo will do his best to keep close and continue to monitor his strategy afterwards Canelo will start attacking him with good solid punches, strategy that this guy is very good when he already analyzes how his opponent works and attacks both from offenses and defenses styles. I think Canelo will try to cut the ring and later try to work on GGG's midsection. I really don't think that is going to turn out to be good for GGG. And if GGG does not get a little aggressive early on Canelo is surely going to be able to do exactly what I said and at that time he will be in his element. If GGG is able to rock Canelo with some good hard punches early on it is going to be hard for Canelo to cut the ring at will. And that is going to give GGG a good chance in this match. I don't think that he will play defensive in the 3rd fight. He already saw his mistakes specially in the first fight wherein he allow Canelo to control the championship rounds (of course the judges as well have something to do with him losing). Perhaps GGG will be very aggressive and he should take advantage of Canelo being a slow starter. But he should be cautious as well in the latter rounds as this is where Canelo usually score points. GGG needs to be consistent for full 12 rounds and not allow Canelo to be comfortable.
The problem is I don't think being aggressive from the start is the nature of GGG and probably it could be a problem if he tries that. But if he also takes too much time to set the pace, Canelo is going to try to take advantage of that as well because he scores points often in the later part. So, GGG will have to approach with caution. He can be aggressive but he will have to be careful so that he does not get too aggressive and let his guard down. Because he can get countered and knocked onto the canvas.
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And we will not see the judges involving themselves. But this is unlikely to happen as both fighter have a solid chin a maybe there is no knock down or knock out.
If the fight will end up in Decision, I'm sure Canelo has more likely to win. There will be no questioned if we will really see that GGG is struggling against Canelo at most rounds and the whole fight is being dominated by Canelo. Otherwise, GGG needs to do a convincing win on every rounds like Bivol did against Canelo in order for judges to side with GGG. If the fight will end up in a close score, I'm sure judges will favor and side with Canelo. He's a big treasure to protect if you know what I mean.
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but in boxing not everything is numbers and statistics, it's the real part, real life, and really even though both boxers have failed along their paths, it will be interesting to see this fight.
Thats true. This will be a great fight that we've been waiting for years. Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight. Possible, but I think when Canelo re-sign with Matchroom and DAZN, he knows that sooner or later this fight is going to happen regardless of the result of of his fight wit Bivol. But the thing is, when Canelo losses that fight, it add an extra motivation for him to fight GGG because he knows that he can get back in track as the cash cow and p4p #1 with a victory here. So we will see after this fight if Canelo will extend his contract again with Eddie Hearn and the DAZN. A wise decision by Canelo, and that really was a blessing for us because we have been anticipating this fight and now it's coming into reality. Well, we all know that although Canelo won in their last fight, it's still not guaranteed that he will win here like what bookies are thinking, I like to believe that bookies are overvaluing Canelo in this fight. About motivation? I'm pretty sure both fighters are motivated. Same here, as if Canelo can have these fights if not because of Matchroom and DAZN. It will be wise to re-sign his contract with the same promoter because he will be just fighting B-class fighter if he decides to sign in other promoter. Also, DAZN did well in including GGG in the contract this year because Hearn knows that a trilogy will still be watched largely by people around the world even if GGG is somehow over his prime years already. Well, I hope that this time will be just and fair fight not just like their first two fights where Canelo has the favor.
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Can't even imagine Canelo weighing 200 pounds just to get a fight with some boxers in cruiserweight, for sure he'd struggle more than he could imagine because guys there are much more natural compared to him who's just jacked up just to get the weight. I agree that 160 lbs. and 168 lbs. are much more suitable for him, he got to maintain his status in that division because there will be boxers in the future who will try to get one of his belts.
I also consider that 160-170 pounds is the most appropriate for Canelo, I think that more weight for Canelo could not have the same effect, since he does not dominate that weight, and even though his punches would be very accurate, I think that the other boxers would have more opportunity than him, this is something that is very relevant in terms of the mood, any boxer would want to have a match with him to defeat him, this is something that should not be denied and it is not because Canelo is losing his ability, but because there are boxers who I see that they are more hungry to win and more hungry for victories, Canelo is imperative that he start winning fights. Middleweight and super-middleweight is I think the right division for him because it is his comfortable weight and he won't have a hard time like he experienced recently against Bivol in light-heavyweight. Although I understand his camp because they are just trying to test the waters if Canelo can indeed be a champion in light-heavy as he managed to defeat Kovalev in the same division, Canelo was just lucky though because he could be KO'd if he go against Beterbiev who has a pretty record with a KO streak.
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The problem is I don't think being aggressive from the start is the nature of GGG and probably it could be a problem if he tries that. But if he also takes too much time to set the pace, Canelo is going to try to take advantage of that as well because he scores points often in the later part. So, GGG will have to approach with caution. He can be aggressive but he will have to be careful so that he does not get too aggressive and let his guard down. Because he can get countered and knocked onto the canvas.
If we refer on GGG's last fight against Murata, there's no aggressiveness on GGG on the early rounds. Lots of punches being thrown successfully by Murata and all those are good shots. There was even lots of solid punches that Murata gave on GGG during the first few rounds. While the fight is progressing, GGG now slowly get back on track and becomes beast mode. Murata can't answer now and that leads for GGG to a knock out win at Round 9. That proves that GGG still has the strength and power to end the fight in a KO Victory. But that situation shouldn't be applied against Canelo. Every rounds count and matters if fighting against Canelo in scorecard.
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The problem is I don't think being aggressive from the start is the nature of GGG and probably it could be a problem if he tries that. But if he also takes too much time to set the pace, Canelo is going to try to take advantage of that as well because he scores points often in the later part. So, GGG will have to approach with caution. He can be aggressive but he will have to be careful so that he does not get too aggressive and let his guard down. Because he can get countered and knocked onto the canvas.
If we refer on GGG's last fight against Murata, there's no aggressiveness on GGG on the early rounds. Lots of punches being thrown successfully by Murata and all those are good shots. There was even lots of solid punches that Murata gave on GGG during the first few rounds. While the fight is progressing, GGG now slowly get back on track and becomes beast mode. Murata can't answer now and that leads for GGG to a knock out win at Round 9. That proves that GGG still has the strength and power to end the fight in a KO Victory. But that situation shouldn't be applied against Canelo. Every rounds count and matters if fighting against Canelo in scorecard. Yeah, because if GGG will let Alvarez convert solid punches like how he did against Murata, he can suffer with a KO. It's a different fighter but for sure GGG knew about it since he already fought twice against Alvarez and he almost won, sadly to say that Canelo gain judges favor and takes fight number 2 while escaping a possible loss during fight number 1. Now, GGG will try his best to bounce back and push for another one or possible that he can retire with a good revenge against the heavy favorite Alvarez.
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If we refer on GGG's last fight against Murata, there's no aggressiveness on GGG on the early rounds. Lots of punches being thrown successfully by Murata and all those are good shots. There was even lots of solid punches that Murata gave on GGG during the first few rounds.
While the fight is progressing, GGG now slowly get back on track and becomes beast mode. Murata can't answer now and that leads for GGG to a knock out win at Round 9. That proves that GGG still has the strength and power to end the fight in a KO Victory.
But that situation shouldn't be applied against Canelo. Every rounds count and matters if fighting against Canelo in scorecard.
You can't compare Murata with Canelo. The latter is at an entirely different level. When was the last time Canelo got KO-ed? Even his loss against Floyd Mayweather Jr. back in 2013 was not from KO, but from majority decision. Golovkin is the king of knockouts, but I don't think that he has much of a chance to repeat that against Canelo. Anyway, I agree with the prediction. Canelo is likely to win the initial rounds. I expect Golovkin to make a comeback from 4th round onwards. But it needs to be seen whether he can win 7 out of the 12 rounds (especially with the judges being biased towards Canelo).
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If we refer on GGG's last fight against Murata, there's no aggressiveness on GGG on the early rounds. Lots of punches being thrown successfully by Murata and all those are good shots. There was even lots of solid punches that Murata gave on GGG during the first few rounds.
While the fight is progressing, GGG now slowly get back on track and becomes beast mode. Murata can't answer now and that leads for GGG to a knock out win at Round 9. That proves that GGG still has the strength and power to end the fight in a KO Victory.
But that situation shouldn't be applied against Canelo. Every rounds count and matters if fighting against Canelo in scorecard.
You can't compare Murata with Canelo. The latter is at an entirely different level. When was the last time Canelo got KO-ed? Even his loss against Floyd Mayweather Jr. back in 2013 was not from KO, but from majority decision. Golovkin is the king of knockouts, but I don't think that he has much of a chance to repeat that against Canelo. Anyway, I agree with the prediction. Canelo is likely to win the initial rounds. I expect Golovkin to make a comeback from 4th round onwards. But it needs to be seen whether he can win 7 out of the 12 rounds (especially with the judges being biased towards Canelo). Yes, different fighters react differently to their opponents. But I wanted for GGG to just be aggressive early, maybe Canelo will start slow maybe not. At least he is the one bringing the fight to Canelo, the same style that Bivol. Just enough though, it should be control as Canelo might come back strong. Enough to offset Canelo early and not giving him that square space to be confident just like what he did when he rekts all the 168 lbs fighter.
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Or let's hope that we can finally see a clear winner in the third fight. And we will not see the judges involving themselves. But this is unlikely to happen as both fighter have a solid chin a maybe there is no knock down or knock out.
Most likely their trilogy will make things clear concerning who's the best among them and I'm pretty sure they will gonna unleash everything here because GGG really needs to close this without any doubt that he is the best and Canelo really need to beat him because he came from an upset loss against Bivol. Nevertheless, it is one of the most exciting trilogies in this era, I hope to see it live at home. Nonetheless, this fight might be their last fight regardless of the result. GGG has been waiting for this fight for years now and I can tell that this is so personal to him, so I bet he'd make this fight to another level because he knows that Canelo is not an easy opponent to defeat. While Canelo cannot also afford to lose twice in a row especially in this trilogy where he is the one who's still in his prime years. Less than a month to go and we will now see this trilogy in the making for years!
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The problem is I don't think being aggressive from the start is the nature of GGG and probably it could be a problem if he tries that. But if he also takes too much time to set the pace, Canelo is going to try to take advantage of that as well because he scores points often in the later part. So, GGG will have to approach with caution. He can be aggressive but he will have to be careful so that he does not get too aggressive and let his guard down. Because he can get countered and knocked onto the canvas.
If we refer on GGG's last fight against Murata, there's no aggressiveness on GGG on the early rounds. Lots of punches being thrown successfully by Murata and all those are good shots. There was even lots of solid punches that Murata gave on GGG during the first few rounds. While the fight is progressing, GGG now slowly get back on track and becomes beast mode. Murata can't answer now and that leads for GGG to a knock out win at Round 9. That proves that GGG still has the strength and power to end the fight in a KO Victory. But that situation shouldn't be applied against Canelo. Every rounds count and matters if fighting against Canelo in scorecard. Against Canelo, you will have to start early and tag him early. Otherwise, if he let Canelo set the pace, GGG is going to find it difficult later on. I know that GGG Is not an early starter but he might have to make an exception against Canelo. Because Canelo will try to take things on the judge’s scorecard. And that might prove to be a problem for Golovkin. -snip-
You can't compare Murata with Canelo. The latter is at an entirely different level. When was the last time Canelo got KO-ed? Even his loss against Floyd Mayweather Jr. back in 2013 was not from KO, but from majority decision. Golovkin is the king of knockouts, but I don't think that he has much of a chance to repeat that against Canelo. Anyway, I agree with the prediction. Canelo is likely to win the initial rounds. I expect Golovkin to make a comeback from 4th round onwards. But it needs to be seen whether he can win 7 out of the 12 rounds (especially with the judges being biased towards Canelo). That is why I don’t think it is going to be a good idea for Golovin to take it to the judge. He should take matters into his own hand. And he should be aggressive from the early rounds. There is not much chance of him knocking out Canelo in my opinion. So, I think he should pressure Canelo early on. But the problem is he is kind of like Joe Frazier, who likes to get used to the opponent's rhythm. But if he does that, will he be able to get explosive enough in the later rounds to make sure there is a victory waiting for him in the end?
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I don't think that he will play defensive in the 3rd fight. He already saw his mistakes specially in the first fight wherein he allow Canelo to control the championship rounds (of course the judges as well have something to do with him losing). Perhaps GGG will be very aggressive and he should take advantage of Canelo being a slow starter. But he should be cautious as well in the latter rounds as this is where Canelo usually score points. GGG needs to be consistent for full 12 rounds and not allow Canelo to be comfortable.
The problem is I don't think being aggressive from the start is the nature of GGG and probably it could be a problem if he tries that. But if he also takes too much time to set the pace, Canelo is going to try to take advantage of that as well because he scores points often in the later part. So, GGG will have to approach with caution. He can be aggressive but he will have to be careful so that he does not get too aggressive and let his guard down. Because he can get countered and knocked onto the canvas. Both of them starts slow and they know how risky it is to be aggressive in the early rounds without feeling each other as it could be an expensive mistake that both boxers cannot afford in the early rounds of the fight. We know that Canelo doesn't start aggressively too as well as GGG, they want to read the movements first and test the waters before going to a all-out war. They know the game for sure because they have fought twice already and it's better to be calm rather than go aggressively just to pin a score.
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Current betting odds are moving into reality now because I believe Donaire has a better chance of beating Inoue due to his extraordinary power in that division than a 40-year-old GGG moving up for the first time as a full super-middleweight against a much improved Canelo. It is 1.16 for Canelo and a massive 4.60 for GGG which was only 3.00+ when the fight was announced. Donaire was 4.00+ against Inoue so I cannot believe GGG was only 3.00+ during the early stages of the build-up.
If Canelo survived against GGG's powerful shots some years ago, how much more now? And we already know that corrupt judges will always try to steal victories away from B side fighters over the years like what happened to this year's Bivol-Canelo, Taylor-Serrano, and Joshua-Usyk II.
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Current betting odds are moving into reality now because I believe Donaire has a better chance of beating Inoue due to his extraordinary power in that division than a 40-year-old GGG moving up for the first time as a full super-middleweight against a much improved Canelo. It is 1.16 for Canelo and a massive 4.60 for GGG which was only 3.00+ when the fight was announced. Donaire was 4.00+ against Inoue so I cannot believe GGG was only 3.00+ during the early stages of the build-up.
If Canelo survived against GGG's powerful shots some years ago, how much more now? And we already know that corrupt judges will always try to steal victories away from B side fighters over the years like what happened to this year's Bivol-Canelo, Taylor-Serrano, and Joshua-Usyk II.
Yep, I just look at the current odds and GGG is 4:1 underdog, and over/under is set to 10.5 rounds. Over is just 1.4x so there is no value betting on it as this fight might go full 12 rounds again as both have good chin and even if they have fought for 24 rounds already, no one was knock down. So I might go with the Winner & exact rounds or the Winner & round range bet in this fight. The odds are very attractive and maybe we got lucky and hit a good returns.
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Current betting odds are moving into reality now because I believe Donaire has a better chance of beating Inoue due to his extraordinary power in that division than a 40-year-old GGG moving up for the first time as a full super-middleweight against a much improved Canelo. It is 1.16 for Canelo and a massive 4.60 for GGG which was only 3.00+ when the fight was announced. Donaire was 4.00+ against Inoue so I cannot believe GGG was only 3.00+ during the early stages of the build-up.
If Canelo survived against GGG's powerful shots some years ago, how much more now? And we already know that corrupt judges will always try to steal victories away from B side fighters over the years like what happened to this year's Bivol-Canelo, Taylor-Serrano, and Joshua-Usyk II.
Yep, I just look at the current odds and GGG is 4:1 underdog, and over/under is set to 10.5 rounds. Over is just 1.4x so there is no value betting on it as this fight might go full 12 rounds again as both have good chin and even if they have fought for 24 rounds already, no one was knock down. So I might go with the Winner & exact rounds or the Winner & round range bet in this fight. The odds are very attractive and maybe we got lucky and hit a good returns. I will bet on GGG, it's his last fight with Canelo, so I would not miss this opportunity to support him with my bet. I know people are thinking that GGG is old, however, Canelo has now beat him clearly yet, so there's still a chance that GGG could upset the young Canelo.
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And we will not see the judges involving themselves. But this is unlikely to happen as both fighter have a solid chin a maybe there is no knock down or knock out.
If the fight will end up in Decision, I'm sure Canelo has more likely to win. I have the same thought, we have seen the result on their first 2 fights, judges are more favorable to Canelo, I wonder if that controversial female judge in their first fight are going to join the panel of judges ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . There will be no questioned if we will really see that GGG is struggling against Canelo at most rounds and the whole fight is being dominated by Canelo. But the 2 previous fight had some controversy regarding the judges decision since many believe that GGG won that first fight and many are not convinced about Canelo winning the 2nd fight. Otherwise, GGG needs to do a convincing win on every rounds like Bivol did against Canelo in order for judges to side with GGG. If the fight will end up in a close score, I'm sure judges will favor and side with Canelo. He's a big treasure to protect if you know what I mean.
One sure thing for GGG to win is to knock out Canelo but Canelo is a tough guy so it is really a hard task.
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One sure thing for GGG to win is to knock out Canelo but Canelo is a tough guy so it is really a hard task.
That's obviously hard, that's the reason why he is a heavy underdog, and we know that once this fight goes to the judges' scorecards, Canelo will likely win and that would result to ending their rivalry as no way they'll fight again, the only way they could fight is if GGG will upset Canelo.
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And we will not see the judges involving themselves. But this is unlikely to happen as both fighter have a solid chin a maybe there is no knock down or knock out.
If the fight will end up in Decision, I'm sure Canelo has more likely to win. There will be no questioned if we will really see that GGG is struggling against Canelo at most rounds and the whole fight is being dominated by Canelo. Otherwise, GGG needs to do a convincing win on every rounds like Bivol did against Canelo in order for judges to side with GGG. If the fight will end up in a close score, I'm sure judges will favor and side with Canelo. He's a big treasure to protect if you know what I mean. What do you mean by that big treasure that the judges must protect? Canelo and his camp knows by now that he is watched by the public and by the whole boxing industry because of that help he got by the judges in their 2 previous fights. Other than that, this trilogy must be fair because Canelo already had the advantage while GGG is already past in his prime. Let Canelo himself prove that he's still the dominant in the division without getting some help because GGG would love to give him an entertaining fight, I bet.
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Unfortunately, in the first two fights, GGG lost the last rounds if he managed to finish with an advantage in the upcoming third match and apply more power punches, not just jabs, then he would have a chance to win.
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Unfortunately, in the first two fights, GGG lost the last rounds if he managed to finish with an advantage in the upcoming third match and apply more power punches, not just jabs, then he would have a chance to win.
GGG lost the third match but they are preparing well for the next upcoming match. i support them personally and i believe then can win in the next upcoming match . If they play with confidence then I think they will have more chances to win.
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The problem is I don't think being aggressive from the start is the nature of GGG and probably it could be a problem if he tries that. But if he also takes too much time to set the pace, Canelo is going to try to take advantage of that as well because he scores points often in the later part. So, GGG will have to approach with caution. He can be aggressive but he will have to be careful so that he does not get too aggressive and let his guard down. Because he can get countered and knocked onto the canvas.
If we refer on GGG's last fight against Murata, there's no aggressiveness on GGG on the early rounds. Lots of punches being thrown successfully by Murata and all those are good shots. There was even lots of solid punches that Murata gave on GGG during the first few rounds. While the fight is progressing, GGG now slowly get back on track and becomes beast mode. Murata can't answer now and that leads for GGG to a knock out win at Round 9. That proves that GGG still has the strength and power to end the fight in a KO Victory. But that situation shouldn't be applied against Canelo. Every rounds count and matters if fighting against Canelo in scorecard. Yeah, because if GGG will let Alvarez convert solid punches like how he did against Murata, he can suffer with a KO. It's a different fighter but for sure GGG knew about it since he already fought twice against Alvarez and he almost won, sadly to say that Canelo gain judges favor and takes fight number 2 while escaping a possible loss during fight number 1. Now, GGG will try his best to bounce back and push for another one or possible that he can retire with a good revenge against the heavy favorite Alvarez. That's a heavy challenge for Golovkin's side but I'm sure he can manage because he really waited for this fight to happen, he sure knows what to do and what is the weakness of Canelo as they like you mentioned they already fought twice already but unfortunately Canelo got some help in the said matches. I'm rooting now for GGG to win because he deserve it also because he's been snatched a win in their 1st fight, now even if the odds is really against him, I'll gladly support him.
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