[Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17

[Sithara007]

1st and 2nd fights are really close and this 3rd one should now show us who's the real winner between these two.

First fight wasn't even close. Golovkin had a huge advantage and in most of the neutral scorecards, he won the fight. However the judges thought otherwise. And it was not just Adelaide Byrd (118-110 in favor of Canelo). Even the other two judges (Dave Moretti and Don Trella) also gave Canelo more rounds than what he won actually. Trella gave a score of 114-114, while Moretti scored the fight as 115-113 in favor of Golovkin. Most of the neutral observers had a score of 116-112 or 117-111 in favor of Golovkin.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Middle East is more suitable because it is a neutral place to fight for the both boxers rather than fighting again in American soil where Bivol might face the same situation he had in their first encounter.

But a cruiserweight fight for Canelo might be too much for him as we already saw his performance in light-heavy, I mean what's more if he will fight in cruiserweight? He might be strong but his moves will be much calculated by his foes as he won't be that fast enough in cruiserweight. Anyway, let's see Canelo's decision after this trilogy.

Yes, after this trilogy, Canelo's camp may explore to which division he wanted to bring his greatness. He needs to take care

of this upcoming fight first, as he needs to re-claim his name after that defeat for Bivol. They might be taking that road once

the fight was already done. If he concludes this rivalry in winning this upcoming fight. There are many options as Canelo is still in his

prime, he can choose what direction for his career and for more flowing money inside his pocket.

I really don't know if it would be appropriate for Canelo to look for a fight against Bivol again, because in view of the time that has passed I don't think he will have much chance with it, I think it would be something different and he could have a possible behavior that would return to win Bivol, the Russian wherever he is, wherever he is, Bivol knows that he has to go with everything and he will not let any title be taken away, besides Canelo is a boxer who has a lot of talent and presence, beating him makes him rise Whatever state of mind, for me Canelo has to train with much more effort, have the same fear as when he was a rookie to be able to do much more than with what he has now.

1st and 2nd fights are really close and this 3rd one should now show us who's the real winner between these two.

First fight wasn't even close. Golovkin had a huge advantage and in most of the neutral scorecards, he won the fight. However the judges thought otherwise. And it was not just Adelaide Byrd (118-110 in favor of Canelo). Even the other two judges (Dave Moretti and Don Trella) also gave Canelo more rounds than what he won actually. Trella gave a score of 114-114, while Moretti scored the fight as 115-113 in favor of Golovkin. Most of the neutral observers had a score of 116-112 or 117-111 in favor of Golovkin.

I only hope that this fight does not go to the technical part, but that both boxers come out explosive, that nothing is saved, besides this fight has been sought and requested for a long time, many things were done so that this fight give, now with all these speculations I don't want the fans to be biased by a single boxer, for now the most important thing is to see every detail of the boxers, the interviews, everything possible, I have also seen that many are going to support GGG , and that seems good to me, before this fight these boxers had encounters that did not go very well for them, however, despite that, this fight will take place.

[Kasabus]

Good mindset, so he will expect a different Canelo, and so his preparation might be different as compare to the last 2 fights. In any case what doesn't surprised me is if GGG is rob again, hehehe.

Golovkin didn't made much noise after he was robbed of the win in previous occasions. But this time I don't think that he will keep quiet. If something similar happens, then I expect him to protest. And already a lot of fans are pointing out what happened in 2017 and 2018. They are not going to keep quiet as well. The judges will be under a lot of pressure. They will be praying for a KO win, for either Canelo or Golovkin. They know that they need to help Canelo, since he is the cash cow. A good performance from Golovkin will make that difficult for them.

The boxing industry also knows that fact that Golovkin was robbed his win in their first encounter because the issue keeps on rising until now, I bet the judges now are being watched closely so that they would think twice in giving Canelo a favor and the people around the world won't be silent this time if there's an unfair judgment will happen in this trilogy.

People are rooting for GGG to win because of what happened in their last two encounters, they will accept defeat peacefully if it's really clear that GGG losses the fight but if it's the opposite then I guess there will be some trouble that Canelo can't avoid himself.

[Sithara007]

I only hope that this fight does not go to the technical part, but that both boxers come out explosive, that nothing is saved, besides this fight has been sought and requested for a long time, many things were done so that this fight give, now with all these speculations I don't want the fans to be biased by a single boxer, for now the most important thing is to see every detail of the boxers, the interviews, everything possible, I have also seen that many are going to support GGG , and that seems good to me, before this fight these boxers had encounters that did not go very well for them, however, despite that, this fight will take place.

I am not sure about which boxer enjoys a greater amount of support. I assume that within the United States (especially among the Hispanic population) Canelo enjoys a greater support. Among the global audience, Golovkin maybe ahead. The odds for Golovkin have remained the same for the last several months. This makes me wonder about his support level. Given how attractive the odds are, a lot of people would have placed a bet for him. But that is simply not happening. I guess fans are being held back due to concerns related to his age.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I only hope that this fight does not go to the technical part, but that both boxers come out explosive, that nothing is saved, besides this fight has been sought and requested for a long time, many things were done so that this fight give, now with all these speculations I don't want the fans to be biased by a single boxer, for now the most important thing is to see every detail of the boxers, the interviews, everything possible, I have also seen that many are going to support GGG , and that seems good to me, before this fight these boxers had encounters that did not go very well for them, however, despite that, this fight will take place.

I am not sure about which boxer enjoys a greater amount of support. I assume that within the United States (especially among the Hispanic population) Canelo enjoys a greater support. Among the global audience, Golovkin maybe ahead. The odds for Golovkin have remained the same for the last several months. This makes me wonder about his support level. Given how attractive the odds are, a lot of people would have placed a bet for him. But that is simply not happening. I guess fans are being held back due to concerns related to his age.

Or maybe Canelo's fans is also betting on him that's why there are no change in the odds. Regardless, there could be some that already bet already on GGG because of the great odds and they don't want to missed it.

But what we wanted to see is just the judges here being fair at least to GGG. Canelo might gain respect more if he wins and it was he was deserving, not just a home cook judge who is going to vote for Canelo just because he is the cash cow.

[Boristhecat]

I felt that Canelo's words that he wants to end the great career of Golovkin are too disrespectful. Especially considering the fact that Canelo himself was beaten by Bivol and his career is also in question. Maybe this is just a statement to keep up the hype, but in my opinion the words were chosen incorrectly. Now if Golovkin wins, it's more likely that Canelo will be forced to retire, hehe.

[Kelvinid]

I felt that Canelo's words that he wants to end the great career of Golovkin are too disrespectful. Especially considering the fact that Canelo himself was beaten by Bivol and his career is also in question. Maybe this is just a statement to keep up the hype, but in my opinion the words were chosen incorrectly. Now if Golovkin wins, it's more likely that Canelo will be forced to retire, hehe.

They can talk whatever he wants but the real talking is in the ring. Well, Canelo won the last fight, but that doesn't mean that he would easily win this fight because GGG will surely work hard to at least win a fight before he announces his retirement, so since GGG is the underdog and I believe he is capable of winning, I'm betting on him here.

[carlisle1]

I felt that Canelo's words that he wants to end the great career of Golovkin are too disrespectful. Especially considering the fact that Canelo himself was beaten by Bivol and his career is also in question. Maybe this is just a statement to keep up the hype, but in my opinion the words were chosen incorrectly. Now if Golovkin wins, it's more likely that Canelo will be forced to retire, hehe.

In my opinion, it's more about hyping the fight. It's normal with fighters who are promoting their upcoming fight

and Canelo makes a good branding now, he engages with GGG's fans and for sure many of those believers will buy

tickets or will subscribe to PPV just to watch how GGG will perform. They will hope that GGG will win against Canelo

and for sure, if that will be the scene, we might see another fight between them another money-making possibility.

But, the other side is, Canelo might be serious with his statement and will do his best to KO GGG to finally

end the doubt about him from winning the last fight and have the draw from their first fight.

[yazher]

They can talk whatever he wants but the real talking is in the ring. Well, Canelo won the last fight, but that doesn't mean that he would easily win this fight because GGG will surely work hard to at least win a fight before he announces his retirement, so since GGG is the underdog and I believe he is capable of winning, I'm betting on him here.

He is really unpredictable and it took them years to give him a chance for another re-match. if Canelo didn't lose in his last fight this won't gonna happen because they won't further risk his record and they will gonna look for another worthy opponent but as we can see, they using this fight to get him back on track and hoping that if he beat GGG his popularity will also increase and hin fight will be in-demand in the future but before he needs to beat GGG first prior 2 weeks from now. can't really wait to watch this fight live.

[Sanitough]

I only hope that this fight does not go to the technical part, but that both boxers come out explosive, that nothing is saved, besides this fight has been sought and requested for a long time, many things were done so that this fight give, now with all these speculations I don't want the fans to be biased by a single boxer, for now the most important thing is to see every detail of the boxers, the interviews, everything possible, I have also seen that many are going to support GGG , and that seems good to me, before this fight these boxers had encounters that did not go very well for them, however, despite that, this fight will take place.

I am not sure about which boxer enjoys a greater amount of support. I assume that within the United States (especially among the Hispanic population) Canelo enjoys a greater support. Among the global audience, Golovkin maybe ahead. The odds for Golovkin have remained the same for the last several months. This makes me wonder about his support level. Given how attractive the odds are, a lot of people would have placed a bet for him. But that is simply not happening. I guess fans are being held back due to concerns related to his age.

We cannot really blame them if that's what they are thinking because they have also a point, given Golovkin's age, we cannot anymore set a high standard on him as he is not that anymore durable and hard to crack because of the wear and tear he experienced throughout his whole career.

On the support side, they sure support Golovkin and that includes me but if we are talking about betting then it's really hard to go against the current Canelo vs aging Golovkin. Don't get me wrong, I'm not making a big issue about his age here but that's the reality.

[stadus]

Well, things would be different if Ramirez will win the fight against Bivol, because Canelo said, he won't fight his fellow Mexican and if Bivol losses he won't be as interested as today in having a rematch for him. So, I guess if Ramirez wins the fight, Canelo will have no choice but to fight him. And finally, we'll get to see how truthful Canelo to his words. He still hold onto those words until now though. However, Ramirez is determined to beat Bivol and fight Canelo on his latest statement.
Things are getting interesting between this 4 fighters.

What do you mean by saying "if Bivol looses, he wont be interesting" ? Bivol is top1 right now, if he looses, he will be top2-top3. Such competitors are always interesting. And it is always interesting to have a rematch with a an opponent, that has totally outclassed you. Canelo fans saw how Bivol has beaten Canelo. If Canelo skips a rematch, fans will be disappointed as minimum, and as maximum could say that Canelo is afraid of Bivol.

Light Heavyweight? definitely he is top together with Beterviev. So for sure, he can still makes fight and huge money and for sure Canelo might go with Bivol next even if he losses his fight. Again, as I have said, Canelo is not interested on all Mexican fight in Light Heavyweight. So it's either Bivol or Beteriviev. Or this might be something odd, but he says he can go as high as fighting Usyk at a catchweight, but we don't know if he is serious or not.

Nah, he cannot possibly be serious to take on a catchweight against Usyk because we already what would've likely happen to Canelo if both camps agreed into 190-200 lbs fight. It is already clear that he is struggling in LHW because of the added weight, how much if he will add more weight exceeding the LHW. Against Beterbiev? I don't think that Canelo can take that fight either.
I think that the best case scenario would be that Canelo will try and settle the score against Bivol even if the latter will be defeated in his upcoming fight against Zurdo.

[Daltonik]

In an interview with DAZN Boxing Show, Bivol expressed his opinion about the upcoming fight Canelo vs GGG a little bit about a possible rematch with Canelo and also talked about a possible fight against Artur Beterbiev when asked by the host whether he is considering a fight with GGG, Bivol says that Golovkin is not on his list.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMER609gN4s

[harizen]

1st and 2nd fights are really close and this 3rd one should now show us who's the real winner between these two.

First fight wasn't even close. Golovkin had a huge advantage and in most of the neutral scorecards, he won the fight. However the judges thought otherwise. And it was not just Adelaide Byrd (118-110 in favor of Canelo). Even the other two judges (Dave Moretti and Don Trella) also gave Canelo more rounds than what he won actually. Trella gave a score of 114-114, while Moretti scored the fight as 115-113 in favor of Golovkin. Most of the neutral observers had a score of 116-112 or 117-111 in favor of Golovkin.

The 1st fight was closed. https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-vs-golovkin-compubox-punch-stats--120563

Although for me GGG wins that match, the stats is so close that ended up in a draw because of that controversial score given by Byrd.

That's why in this trilogy, GGG needs to dominate Canelo as much as possible in most rounds to clearly win the fight in case it will end in a Decision.

[goinmerry]

I felt that Canelo's words that he wants to end the great career of Golovkin are too disrespectful. Especially considering the fact that Canelo himself was beaten by Bivol and his career is also in question. Maybe this is just a statement to keep up the hype, but in my opinion the words were chosen incorrectly. Now if Golovkin wins, it's more likely that Canelo will be forced to retire, hehe.

Part of the fight. I don't see any disrespect in that comment saying Canelo will end the career of Golovkin. Instead, that is more encouraging for GGG as he will try to prevent that and spoil Canelo's plan. If Canelo will not make it true, who will receive the backlash?

If the comment is about relating to family or outside the boxing already, that will be the disrespectful part like what happened when Caleb Plant throw that kind of statement to Canelo during their press conference on their fight.

[wxa7115]

If Canelo skips a rematch, fans will be disappointed as minimum, and as maximum could say that Canelo is afraid of Bivol.

If my memory served me right, Canelo wants the rematch right away against Bivol but his camp was advised by some professional analyst, groups, or something along those lines that it will be risky for Canelo to head straight to a rematch without doing some other fights first. Maybe as part of conditioning as Bivol is really a big deal and able to turn the heavy favorite Canelo into a punching bag.

But before that discussion, let's see first if Canelo can give GGG a hard time on this trilogy.

1st and 2nd fights are really close and this 3rd one should now show us who's the real winner between these two.

I read something similar, we need to remember that boxing is not just about throwing the strongest punch that you can, it is also a game of strategy, anyone that saw the fight of Bivol against Canelo could see that Bivol was way above Canelo and it was a bad idea for Canelo to hold a rematch immediately.

It makes more sense for Canelo to fight other opponents and try to make up for the weaknesses that Bivol exploited on their match, and only once he believes he's ready then a rematch could be pursued, after all I do not think Bivol is going to avoid him as the amount of money that he will receive for the rematch should be very high.

[Fredomago]

Let's respect Bivol, Canelo losses against him, and yet we still believe that Canelo is a great player. Anyway, seeing Bivol losses is far from happening, he is extremely good at his division, so I think he will reign and no one could stop him.

We never know till we've heard the announcer announce the winner, but I believe that the idea of another rematch between Bivol and Canelo is still open. If the price is right for sure, both camps will negotiate and sign the contract.

Maybe after Canelo's fight, if he can beat GGG because if that will happen, the fans will hype his name again and it's good timing to fight Bivol. Well, in short, both fighters (Bivol and Canelo) have to beat their respective opponents so that rematch is going to be interesting.

There are many possibilities but first they needed to win both fights and then arrange whatever the possibilities, if the rematch will take place it's still be an easy market for both Bivol and Alvarez, while if they both losses their respective fights, they can still ask for rematch and another potential for more money to flow. Boxing is a business. I'm not going to be surprised if there're a sideway that may happen. We never know when a solid punch will land on anyone's face and force a KO outcome.

I felt that Canelo's words that he wants to end the great career of Golovkin are too disrespectful. Especially considering the fact that Canelo himself was beaten by Bivol and his career is also in question. Maybe this is just a statement to keep up the hype, but in my opinion the words were chosen incorrectly. Now if Golovkin wins, it's more likely that Canelo will be forced to retire, hehe.

Part of the fight. I don't see any disrespect in that comment saying Canelo will end the career of Golovkin. Instead, that is more encouraging for GGG as he will try to prevent that and spoil Canelo's plan. If Canelo will not make it true, who will receive the backlash?

If the comment is about relating to family or outside the boxing already, that will be the disrespectful part like what happened when Caleb Plant throw that kind of statement to Canelo during their press conference on their fight.

Good point on the side of GGG it will be an extra encouragement to perform and give everything left to his career in beating Alvarez, something that will prove that he's still and really the best in this division.

[btc_angela]

I felt that Canelo's words that he wants to end the great career of Golovkin are too disrespectful. Especially considering the fact that Canelo himself was beaten by Bivol and his career is also in question. Maybe this is just a statement to keep up the hype, but in my opinion the words were chosen incorrectly. Now if Golovkin wins, it's more likely that Canelo will be forced to retire, hehe.

Part of the fight. I don't see any disrespect in that comment saying Canelo will end the career of Golovkin. Instead, that is more encouraging for GGG as he will try to prevent that and spoil Canelo's plan. If Canelo will not make it true, who will receive the backlash?

You are right, perhaps it's Canelo's way of motivating himself. Or maybe he thinks that GGG is already old and need to retire after this fight. We have heard that as well to Thurman when he fought Manny, but the opposite happen.

If the comment is about relating to family or outside the boxing already, that will be the disrespectful part like what happened when Caleb Plant throw that kind of statement to Canelo during their press conference on their fight.

It's below the belt, Canelo knows that he can't do that because he himself doesn't want that kind of trashtalk. Everything should settled in the ring between the two. No need to disrespect and I think both are not that kind of boxers. No personal attacks about families, everyone that is close to their hearts.

[erep]

You are right, perhaps it's Canelo's way of motivating himself. Or maybe he thinks that GGG is already old and need to retire after this fight. We have heard that as well to Thurman when he fought Manny, but the opposite happen.

Canelo condition was not fine after losing to Bivol so his statement expressed motivation for him that Canelo had to defend his ego from his statement until he could win the fight. But hey, that fight will defend some middleweight titles so they have to fight for the emotional high, the third fight will risk everything even career threatening for the decision to retire.

It's below the belt, Canelo knows that he can't do that because he himself doesn't want that kind of trashtalk. Everything should settled in the ring between the two. No need to disrespect and I think both are not that kind of boxers. No personal attacks about families, everyone that is close to their hearts.

Both professional boxers are personal to put out good statements but the match is for risking everything so there must be disagreements against each other, I repeat that because it's hype for boxing's biggest fight, in the end they are very sporting and willing to accept fair decisions.

[Kemarit]

If Canelo skips a rematch, fans will be disappointed as minimum, and as maximum could say that Canelo is afraid of Bivol.

If my memory served me right, Canelo wants the rematch right away against Bivol but his camp was advised by some professional analyst, groups, or something along those lines that it will be risky for Canelo to head straight to a rematch without doing some other fights first. Maybe as part of conditioning as Bivol is really a big deal and able to turn the heavy favorite Canelo into a punching bag.

But before that discussion, let's see first if Canelo can give GGG a hard time on this trilogy.

1st and 2nd fights are really close and this 3rd one should now show us who's the real winner between these two.

I read something similar, we need to remember that boxing is not just about throwing the strongest punch that you can, it is also a game of strategy, anyone that saw the fight of Bivol against Canelo could see that Bivol was way above Canelo and it was a bad idea for Canelo to hold a rematch immediately.

Definitely, it''s more than brute force or power, know boxing has becoming a holistic approach. Not just training and who punch the hardest, now it's diet, nutrition, they hired sports doctor and dietitian, even sports psychologist.

It makes more sense for Canelo to fight other opponents and try to make up for the weaknesses that Bivol exploited on their match, and only once he believes he's ready then a rematch could be pursued, after all I do not think Bivol is going to avoid him as the amount of money that he will receive for the rematch should be very high.

When he bolted out of Golden Boy and sign a contract with Eddie Hearn, sooner or later he knows that he will have to fight GGG and he can't avoid it regardless if he wins against Bivol or not. And now the tide has turn, he is not chasing Bivol to get his revenge.

[chaser15]

Good point on the side of GGG it will be an extra encouragement to perform and give everything left to his career in beating Alvarez, something that will prove that he's still and really the best in this division.

Yes, that was an encouragement rather than a disrespectful comment. GGG is also humble and he didn't threaten trash talk as a distraction. As long as, of course, there's no below-the-belt, they can throw words at each other although knowing Canelo, he is not like that unless his opponent started first.

Anyways, if I remember, Canelo already trash talk GGG at their press conference last July or August? Correct me on what month as I can't remember. GGG is just silent but got surprised Canelo did that to him. Maybe in that press conference, Canelo is still under the spell of being disappointed as he just loses to Bivol lol.