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September 14, 2022, 06:51:05 AM
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These are the fights that the fans want to watch. It only makes sense if they want to get the most pay-per-view from these fights. But I don't think this fight is going to end as a draw.

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Fans - that is the main and only reason why GGG is having this third fight. Lets be honest, he has proved already many times to everyone that he is one of the best boxers in our planet. I dont think he needs to prove anymore to anyone that he is the greatest.

There is no way GGG is winning this fight. Why? Because the fight is on the same day Mexicans will be celebrating Day of Mexico, because Canelo is to good to be KOed by GGG, because GGG is to good to be KOed by Canelo, because Canelos future career will be longer (promotion can milk him longer). Judges will once again make Canelo a winner. Split or UD. The only way GGG could win this is KO.

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September 14, 2022, 07:15:11 AM
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.
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September 14, 2022, 09:03:46 AM
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.

I will put my bet on GGG, I will not feel the pressure because the betting odds are good and I don't lose much in case GGG will lose. All I believe is that if GGG will lose, I'm sure I will still be entertain because GGG will never back down, and what if he got lucky here, upset is possible my friend.
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September 14, 2022, 09:41:25 AM
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.

I will put my bet on GGG, I will not feel the pressure because the betting odds are good and I don't lose much in case GGG will lose. All I believe is that if GGG will lose, I'm sure I will still be entertain because GGG will never back down, and what if he got lucky here, upset is possible my friend.
Good for you, and again, if we look at the voting here, I myself voted for GGG to win. And with that very attractive odds, then why not? At least you have your own decision and not be pressure because Canelo is the favorite and then there are predictions by former boxers who thinks that Canelo will win and probably score a stoppage either by TKO or KO but I doubt that Canelo can go that even if GGG is 40 years old.

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September 14, 2022, 10:16:24 AM
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.

I will put my bet on GGG, I will not feel the pressure because the betting odds are good and I don't lose much in case GGG will lose. All I believe is that if GGG will lose, I'm sure I will still be entertain because GGG will never back down, and what if he got lucky here, upset is possible my friend.
Good for you, and again, if we look at the voting here, I myself voted for GGG to win. And with that very attractive odds, then why not? At least you have your own decision and not be pressure because Canelo is the favorite and then there are predictions by former boxers who thinks that Canelo will win and probably score a stoppage either by TKO or KO but I doubt that Canelo can go that even if GGG is 40 years old.

It is very possible for Canelo to win over Golovkin by TKO or KO, but if you think that GGG would win over Canelo, it is better to bet on winning method than moneyline bet. GGG on moneyline has only 4.90 odds, whereas Golovkin winning by decision has 8.60 and him winning by knockout is 11.00. After all there are only two most probable ways for GGG to win, either by decision or knockout.

Draw is also interesting by the way knowing how the previous fights of these two boxers ended.
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September 14, 2022, 10:54:09 AM
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It is very possible for Canelo to win over Golovkin by TKO or KO, but if you think that GGG would win over Canelo, it is better to bet on winning method than moneyline bet. GGG on moneyline has only 4.90 odds, whereas Golovkin winning by decision has 8.60 and him winning by knockout is 11.00. After all there are only two most probable ways for GGG to win, either by decision or knockout.

Draw is also interesting by the way knowing how the previous fights of these two boxers ended.

Draw is quite possible (similar to the first fight). If Golovkin somehow manages to KO Canelo, then it is his best chance for a win. Most of the neutral observers had Golovkin ahead by 116-112 or 117-111 in the first fight but the judges scored it as a draw. So Golovkin winning by UD or SD is near impossible given the bias from the judges. And that also explains why the odds are so unfavorable for Golovkin, despite both the boxers being equally good (at least in my opinion) and Golovkin having a better record against Canelo.

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September 14, 2022, 10:58:57 AM
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Since none of the fighters was never knocked out, I dont think such outcome is possible. Their close previous fights also indicate the KO is highly unlikely in that fight. Mark my words, it will be a decision once again, but this time it will be a unanimous but not split decision win by Canelo.

The only way Canelo could win by KO, is if this fight was sort of a finals and GGG was loosing by points and performed a risky attack. Since this is just a fight, and no matter what will be the result, they will get paid announced in contract amount, both of them wont risk a lot.

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September 14, 2022, 11:07:22 AM
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It is very possible for Canelo to win over Golovkin by TKO or KO, but if you think that GGG would win over Canelo, it is better to bet on winning method than moneyline bet. GGG on moneyline has only 4.90 odds, whereas Golovkin winning by decision has 8.60 and him winning by knockout is 11.00. After all there are only two most probable ways for GGG to win, either by decision or knockout.

Draw is also interesting by the way knowing how the previous fights of these two boxers ended.

Draw is quite possible (similar to the first fight). If Golovkin somehow manages to KO Canelo, then it is his best chance for a win. Most of the neutral observers had Golovkin ahead by 116-112 or 117-111 in the first fight but the judges scored it as a draw. So Golovkin winning by UD or SD is near impossible given the bias from the judges. And that also explains why the odds are so unfavorable for Golovkin, despite both the boxers being equally good (at least in my opinion) and Golovkin having a better record against Canelo.

I share your observation that this will hardly go in favor of Golovkin if it isn't very obvious that he's winning. It might be different this time around but Canelo has really the bias of the judges. This happened in their previous matches and this happened in Canelo's latest match against Bivol. The scorecards had the fight very close when it was obvious it wasn't.

So if Golovkin wins by points, a draw is indeed a possibility.
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September 14, 2022, 11:17:07 AM
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

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September 14, 2022, 11:26:56 AM
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

But it's not a massive jump in weight and he has a lot of days to go back naturally to SMW division. It's not like the case of Roy Jones who went as high as Heavyweight and then his weight swinging around 168-175 lbs. And that was the beginning of the downfall of Roy Jones. For Canelo, it's negligible, he is still in his prime and could be walking around that weight without draining himself or changing his diet.

 
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September 14, 2022, 11:32:15 AM
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

But it's not a massive jump in weight and he has a lot of days to go back naturally to SMW division. It's not like the case of Roy Jones who went as high as Heavyweight and then his weight swinging around 168-175 lbs. And that was the beginning of the downfall of Roy Jones. For Canelo, it's negligible, he is still in his prime and could be walking around that weight without draining himself or changing his diet.
It will not affect him, they have trainers and nutritionists that will make sure Canelo will be healthy once he goes down in weight. It's an anticipated fight, so we don't want to hear some complaints from the camp of Canelo in case an upset is gonna happen here.

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September 14, 2022, 02:34:28 PM
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

Not Canelo, and his team know how to condition his body to go up or down and calculate the days before the fight, they do it gradually, Canelo need not drain his body, just like they do in a lower division when the body cannot drain any more fats in the body, 3.17515 kilos is easy to drain because he is natural in 168, so no effect at all in the condition of the body what will have an impact is the motivation and the mindset, this is a mind game because this is a trilogy, they will make right what they missed in their previous two fights.

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September 14, 2022, 04:01:56 PM
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@TopTort777,
These are the fights that the fans want to watch. It only makes sense if they want to get the most pay-per-view from these fights. But I don't think this fight is going to end as a draw.

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Fans - that is the main and only reason why GGG is having this third fight. Lets be honest, he has proved already many times to everyone that he is one of the best boxers in our planet. I dont think he needs to prove anymore to anyone that he is the greatest.
There is no way GGG is winning this fight. Why? Because the fight is on the same day Mexicans will be celebrating Day of Mexico, because Canelo is to good to be KOed by GGG, because GGG is to good to be KOed by Canelo, because Canelos future career will be longer (promotion can milk him longer). Judges will once again make Canelo a winner. Split or UD.

The only way GGG could win this is KO.

I have to say that I agree with you on this one.
Because I also see the judges favouring Canelo if it does go to the judge's scorecard.

But I feel like it does not actually matter too much if GGG wins or loses this match. He is still going to be one of the best in the world.
If he loses this probably it is going to be a change in the armor for him and his legacy. But he will still have a special place in the heart of people.



Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

I really don't think cutting weight is going to cause him too much problems. After all, they are professional boxers and they should be used to this by now. It doesn't seem like this much difference in weight will have a significant impact on a fighter's skill. To be honest, there is really nothing to complain about from them. It won't be an upset for me to see Canelo lose. My personal preference is for GGG to win this fight.


Good Luck

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September 14, 2022, 04:40:32 PM
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GGG ok it's going to be hard to predict how he's going to fight at 40. On the other side is a Canelo who came from defeat. I think GGG will be in the ring fit and in good condition. Will they go to desicion or in the match here or will either of them break one of them. I think Canelo can do it, Tko. But I don't think the match will end with TKO. I think there are a lot of parameters that will be a good trilogy, I think both of them will not play risky, they will play each other equally to the points. Good fight night GG.
Most of the experts predicted that this fight will go to the judges' scorecards, or if there's a KO, it should be Canelo winning the fight. Yes, GGG is already 40 years old, but is it right to call him old? I don't think so, he won his previous fight and I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and he can entertain us in this fight.

This could be his retirement fight if he losses, so hopefully he will not.

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Canelo Alvarez vs Gennadiy Golovkin 3 odds

Favorite   Odds   Underdog   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -500   Gennadiy Golovkin   +333
https://www.covers.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-gennady-golovkin-3-odds

Canelo is heavily favored based on the betting odds.

Well, Golovkin is not that agile anymore compared to his prime years but the thing about him is that he can still win fights because of the IQ he acquired throughout those years he's been fighting and Golovkin haven't tasted another defeat after Canelo. Also, those said experts are not that real expert in boxing nor can predict the outcome, those people are just self-proclaimed experts.

Still, I believe that Golovkin can still make Canelo struggle and can beat him, and based on that odds, betting on Golovkin quite tasty.

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September 14, 2022, 04:52:44 PM
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GGG ok it's going to be hard to predict how he's going to fight at 40. On the other side is a Canelo who came from defeat. I think GGG will be in the ring fit and in good condition. Will they go to desicion or in the match here or will either of them break one of them. I think Canelo can do it, Tko. But I don't think the match will end with TKO. I think there are a lot of parameters that will be a good trilogy, I think both of them will not play risky, they will play each other equally to the points. Good fight night GG.
Most of the experts predicted that this fight will go to the judges' scorecards, or if there's a KO, it should be Canelo winning the fight. Yes, GGG is already 40 years old, but is it right to call him old? I don't think so, he won his previous fight and I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and he can entertain us in this fight.

This could be his retirement fight if he losses, so hopefully he will not.

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Canelo Alvarez vs Gennadiy Golovkin 3 odds

Favorite   Odds   Underdog   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -500   Gennadiy Golovkin   +333
https://www.covers.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-gennady-golovkin-3-odds

Canelo is heavily favored based on the betting odds.

Well, Golovkin is not that agile anymore compared to his prime years but the thing about him is that he can still win fights because of the IQ he acquired throughout those years he's been fighting and Golovkin haven't tasted another defeat after Canelo. Also, those said experts are not that real expert in boxing nor can predict the outcome, those people are just self-proclaimed experts.

Still, I believe that Golovkin can still make Canelo struggle and can beat him, and based on that odds, betting on Golovkin quite tasty.


They are just proclaiming themselves as experts thinking that they can correctly predict the outcome base from their own analysis, there's no accurate results as the outcome always happens at the end of the fight, early predictions are just self owning, no offense to those who support those types of analysis but experienced, wise, upset always happens to this sport and we really don't know if how both fighters prepared from this upcoming trilogy.

A winner takes all here, I mean if ever Canelo will win he can end this rivalry while if GGG wins he will add more value to his career.

He can either retire or he can ask for better TF and shares if Canelo's camp will ask for another rematch.

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September 14, 2022, 07:40:37 PM
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It's the 3rd fight, so if there's another fight, it will be the 4th. If that will happen, then it's okay because these two are great fighters and they can give real entertainment unlike other chances who are boring to watch as they just want to score and run, this one they do a toe to toe fight, that's why the fans are asking for this fight.

If Golovkin wins this fight, then he may decide to retire. Even if he decides otherwise, I don't think that he will agree to another fight with Canelo. He has repeatedly claimed that he was robbed of wins not once, but twice. So why should he give an opportunity to Canelo, to get even? But then, there will be a lot of ifs and buts. Given the asymmetrical betting odds, no one in their right mind would think that Golovkin is a favorite to win this match. As I mentioned earlier, I have placed a small bet in favor of GGG. But even then, I am not being much optimistic.

That's another option, but if you will ask me, why would he retire if he can still make more money fighting Canelo again?

Here's what I'm thinking that could happen, If GGG cares more about his legacy, then retirement is the best option, but if he cares more about making more money before retirement, then he will continue to fight, whether it's Canelo or another fighter.

I guess we can already answer that question, GGG cares more about his legacy than the money he could make in the future if in case he upsets Canelo. GGG already said that he won't retire but that might change if in case he gets victorious here, that would be the best revenge he could give to Canelo after all the years he was rejected for a trilogy. 2 days more!
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September 14, 2022, 11:35:39 PM
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To hype everyone up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5niaQyq4iGo

Intense face off between the two, and it seems that both of them are ready for a war. It's going to be a great weekend match for everyone and for sure everyone's bet is already in. Noticed though that GGG seems to be not as weight drain, I mean yes he fought at 160 lbs most of his career and then he jumps to 168 lbs here, but you can see his face and his jaw is like round and full unlike those previous fights of his, just saying. So better invite your friends this weekend and watch the fight in PPV.

 
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September 14, 2022, 11:38:40 PM
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Well.. it looks as if the odds worsened further for Golovkin. A month or so ago, he was at 4.10. And that was when I placed a bet. It looks as if the sportsbooks are further adjusting the odds in face of increased bets from Canelo supporters. Else, I don't think that anything on ground has changed during the last 4 weeks. These odds doesn't make any sense. Let's remember that Golovkin win the first fight between the two (according to most neutral scorers), and the second one was too close to call. Given this, I don't think that Golovkin deserves odds of 4.90.

The odds for the trilogy match between Canelo and Golovkin are almost identical now to Canelo vs Bivol fight.

Canelo was a +550 favorite to win against Bivol. Here in the trilogy against GGG, he is a +600 favorite to win.
Bivol is a +400 underdog against Canelo. GGG is also +400 here.

Just a comparison and not saying GGG will have the same result lol.

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September 14, 2022, 11:42:02 PM
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To hype everyone up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5niaQyq4iGo

Intense face off between the two, and it seems that both of them are ready for a war. It's going to be a great weekend match for everyone and for sure everyone's bet is already in. Noticed though that GGG seems to be not as weight drain, I mean yes he fought at 160 lbs most of his career and then he jumps to 168 lbs here, but you can see his face and his jaw is like round and full unlike those previous fights of his, just saying. So better invite your friends this weekend and watch the fight in PPV.
Thanks for the link.

As expected that there would be some slight physique change and i had noticed it too but its not that surprising considering that there's a slight bump on weight
but lets see if this one wont really be resulting into some sort of slow down.
Im already readying up for this upcoming weekend which would really be a good fight to look upon.Hope it wont disappoint.

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September 15, 2022, 12:47:28 AM
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To hype everyone up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5niaQyq4iGo

Intense face off between the two, and it seems that both of them are ready for a war. It's going to be a great weekend match for everyone and for sure everyone's bet is already in. Noticed though that GGG seems to be not as weight drain, I mean yes he fought at 160 lbs most of his career and then he jumps to 168 lbs here, but you can see his face and his jaw is like round and full unlike those previous fights of his, just saying. So better invite your friends this weekend and watch the fight in PPV.
Thanks for the link.

As expected that there would be some slight physique change and i had noticed it too but its not that surprising considering that there's a slight bump on weight
but lets see if this one wont really be resulting into some sort of slow down.
Im already readying up for this upcoming weekend which would really be a good fight to look upon.Hope it wont disappoint.

GGG sounds not very confident or he wasn't asked the right question to say what has been needed to say but for the love of sport and Canelo wants to bring a good show for the people this Sept 16 which is the independence day of Mecico. Amazing how embarrassing could this be if Canelo loses the fight but Judges may really be on his side.




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