[Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17

[Japinat]

No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.

I'm pretty sure GGG knows that, therefore, I believe that he will try his best to win by KO/TKO, that way judges' decision is not necessary anymore. It's gonna be a war, GGG trying to win this trilogy while Canelo will try to have an impressive win so people will forget about how he lost to Bivol.

Aside from GGG, the whole public and the boxing industry knows about that too that's why I'm thinking that the judges this time might refrain from their habits of helping Canelo in terms of scores if ever the fight will get to the judge's hand once again. However, GGG shouldn't rely from that alone and should do his job as well in finishing the fight as early as he could so that the fight won't reach into the judge's hands.

[stadus]

GGG ok it's going to be hard to predict how he's going to fight at 40. On the other side is a Canelo who came from defeat. I think GGG will be in the ring fit and in good condition. Will they go to desicion or in the match here or will either of them break one of them. I think Canelo can do it, Tko. But I don't think the match will end with TKO. I think there are a lot of parameters that will be a good trilogy, I think both of them will not play risky, they will play each other equally to the points. Good fight night GG.

Most of the experts predicted that this fight will go to the judges' scorecards, or if there's a KO, it should be Canelo winning the fight. Yes, GGG is already 40 years old, but is it right to call him old? I don't think so, he won his previous fight and I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and he can entertain us in this fight.

This could be his retirement fight if he losses, so hopefully he will not.

Canelo Alvarez vs Gennadiy Golovkin 3 odds

Favorite   Odds   Underdog   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -500   Gennadiy Golovkin   +333

https://www.covers.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-gennady-golovkin-3-odds

Canelo is heavily favored based on the betting odds.

Well, Golovkin is not that agile anymore compared to his prime years but the thing about him is that he can still win fights because of the IQ he acquired throughout those years he's been fighting and Golovkin haven't tasted another defeat after Canelo. Also, those said experts are not that real expert in boxing nor can predict the outcome, those people are just self-proclaimed experts.

Still, I believe that Golovkin can still make Canelo struggle and can beat him, and based on that odds, betting on Golovkin quite tasty.

They are just proclaiming themselves as experts thinking that they can correctly predict the outcome base from their own analysis, there's no accurate results as the outcome always happens at the end of the fight, early predictions are just self owning, no offense to those who support those types of analysis but experienced, wise, upset always happens to this sport and we really don't know if how both fighters prepared from this upcoming trilogy.

A winner takes all here, I mean if ever Canelo will win he can end this rivalry while if GGG wins he will add more value to his career.

He can either retire or he can ask for better TF and shares if Canelo's camp will ask for another rematch.

Indeed! I don't even know why these so called experts are so hyped even if they cannot exactly predict what will be the outcome of the match, they are just basing everything on age and recent performance that's why they are saying that every odds are in favor of Canelo. I for one doesn't believe these experts and only rely on my analysis.

A winner takes all here, I mean if ever Canelo will win he can end this rivalry while if GGG wins he will add more value to his career.

He can either retire or he can ask for better TF and shares if Canelo's camp will ask for another rematch.

Yes, Canelo will be hailed as the true winner if he will win in this trilogy but I don't think it will add some value to his career because GGG is not that kind of a trophy anymore in their case.
But if GGG will win then his value will indeed increase while Canelo will be devalued for getting defeated by a man who is already at the retirement stage and of course for being defeated twice in a row, all that happened in one year alone.

[Sithara007]

Yes, Canelo will be hailed as the true winner if he will win in this trilogy but I don't think it will add some value to his career because GGG is not that kind of a trophy anymore in their case.
But if GGG will win then his value will indeed increase while Canelo will be devalued for getting defeated by a man who is already at the retirement stage and of course for being defeated twice in a row, all that happened in one year alone.

Canelo has nothing to gain and GGG has nothing to lose. That summarizes the situation from the current fight. If Canelo had accepted the challenge in 2019 and decisively defeated Golovkin, then he could have been hailed as the champion. But that was not the case. He delayed the fight needlessly for 2.5 years, so that GGG would get old. Now Golovkin is no longer in his prime and even if Canelo manages to defeat him (without the support from the judges), he won't be able to take a lot of credit for that win.

[Dave1]

No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.

I'm pretty sure GGG knows that, therefore, I believe that he will try his best to win by KO/TKO, that way judges' decision is not necessary anymore. It's gonna be a war, GGG trying to win this trilogy while Canelo will try to have an impressive win so people will forget about how he lost to Bivol.

Aside from GGG, the whole public and the boxing industry knows about that too that's why I'm thinking that the judges this time might refrain from their habits of helping Canelo in terms of scores if ever the fight will get to the judge's hand once again. However, GGG shouldn't rely from that alone and should do his job as well in finishing the fight as early as he could so that the fight won't reach into the judge's hands.

Is the judges name have been announce already?
The reason why I'm asking is that we need to get the names of them and see if they have previously been involved in some unfair scoring or maybe they are on the Canelo's bandwagon?

I think that will be the aim for both of them, then will want to finished the fight as early and not let it go to the judges hands because there could be another controversy and the boxing community will surely be in an uproar if the judges didn't get it right again.

[Daltonik]

Golovkin says in a pre-match interview that he has a lot of plans besides this fight with Canelo, so it looks like he's not going to leave anyway. When asked about a possible fourth fight with Canelo, GGG stated that he also does not rule out a similar outcome from this trilogy. And by the way, an interesting fact is that in his entire boxing career, including amateur boxing, Golovkin has never even been in knockdown.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I would like to see GGG do well and make it an entertaining fight. I have to agree with the consensus that Canelo is a heavy favorite. It is not just about age. The size difference might also be a factor. Canelo has been fighting super middleweights and light heavyweights in recent years while Golovkin has remained at middleweight. Maybe if Canelo has stamina problems, GGG might find a way to win rounds but the most likely outcome in my opinion is Canelo by wide decision or perhaps even late stoppage.

[carlisle1]

I would like to see GGG do well and make it an entertaining fight. I have to agree with the consensus that Canelo is a heavy favorite. It is not just about age. The size difference might also be a factor. Canelo has been fighting super middleweights and light heavyweights in recent years while Golovkin has remained at middleweight. Maybe if Canelo has stamina problems, GGG might find a way to win rounds but the most likely outcome in my opinion is Canelo by wide decision or perhaps even late stoppage.

If Canelo will allow GGG to see some good openings, I'm pretty sure that he will not waste his time trying to throw solid combinations in bringing Canelo down. Knowing the type of fighter GGG was, he will never take anything for granted if chances give him the opportunity to box and corner his opponents.

But it is also the same with Canelo. If GGG will give Canelo that chance it can turn against him, I remember GGG's fight against Murata, where he gave
the Jap fighter that chance to throw and convert solid combos, if that will be given to Canelo, we might conclude the outcome in an instance.

I'm not degrading Murata but Canelo's type of punching power, mostly will KO, his opponent.

[Yaunfitda]

I would like to see GGG do well and make it an entertaining fight. I have to agree with the consensus that Canelo is a heavy favorite. It is not just about age. The size difference might also be a factor. Canelo has been fighting super middleweights and light heavyweights in recent years while Golovkin has remained at middleweight. Maybe if Canelo has stamina problems, GGG might find a way to win rounds but the most likely outcome in my opinion is Canelo by wide decision or perhaps even late stoppage.

The stamina problem of Canelo might be when he move up to LHW, as we can see it's either Bivol punches that have slow him down or that Canelo is really getting tired because of this new added weight on this body at 175. For Golovkin it's a relief that he will be fighting at 168 lbs, so there's no need for him to drain his body and maybe it will benefit him to be more stronger than ever. And notice how big Golovkin head is, I even heard from other comments (not in this community), that it is Kazakhs, juice, lol.

[Jawhead999]

Is the judges name have been announce already?
The reason why I'm asking is that we need to get the names of them and see if they have previously been involved in some unfair scoring or maybe they are on the Canelo's bandwagon?

Yep it has been announced who's the judges in this fight

The judges appointed for the fight are Dave Moretti, Steve Weisfeld and David Sutherland.

Dave Moretti has favoring to GGG on the first match, but he's favoring to Canelo on the second match, I think he judgement is fair enough since I consider GGG performance on the first match was better than the second.

Steve Weisfeld only become judges on the second match and he's favoring to Canelo too, while David Sutherland is new name on Canelo vs GGG fight. Looking how he gave a score [1] it seems that he's kind of judge who favor to favorited boxer.

[1] https://boxrec.com/en/judge/402543

[aioc]

Is the judges name have been announce already?
The reason why I'm asking is that we need to get the names of them and see if they have previously been involved in some unfair scoring or maybe they are on the Canelo's bandwagon?

Yep it has been announced who's the judges in this fight

The judges appointed for the fight are Dave Moretti, Steve Weisfeld and David Sutherland.

Dave Moretti has favoring to GGG on the first match, but he's favoring to Canelo on the second match, I think he judgement is fair enough since I consider GGG performance on the first match was better than the second.

Steve Weisfeld only become judges on the second match and he's favoring to Canelo too, while David Sutherland is new name on Canelo vs GGG fight. Looking how he gave a score [1] it seems that he's kind of judge who favor to favorited boxer.

[1] https://boxrec.com/en/judge/402543

These are veteran judges they know the weight of judging this fight fairly, but judges are human too, all the big fights that ended in a decision have some controversy in them, for GGG to win by decision it should be a performance like what Bivol did to Canelo when they meet, so he can win by unanimous decision for Canelo to win by decision it should be a performance like he did to Caleb Plant, the first three rounds are very important, we'll see if its the continuation of the first two fights, I hope to see something different on both fighters.

[Invester]

Whaat? The voting is opposite to the actual betting market. Are you people sure that Golovkin will win? Did you cast your bets on Golovkin already?

I would like to see GGG do well and make it an entertaining fight. I have to agree with the consensus that Canelo is a heavy favorite. It is not just about age. The size difference might also be a factor. Canelo has been fighting super middleweights and light heavyweights in recent years while Golovkin has remained at middleweight. Maybe if Canelo has stamina problems, GGG might find a way to win rounds but the most likely outcome in my opinion is Canelo by wide decision or perhaps even late stoppage.

The stamina problem of Canelo might be when he move up to LHW, as we can see it's either Bivol punches that have slow him down or that Canelo is really getting tired because of this new added weight on this body at 175. For Golovkin it's a relief that he will be fighting at 168 lbs, so there's no need for him to drain his body and maybe it will benefit him to be more stronger than ever. And notice how big Golovkin head is, I even heard from other comments (not in this community), that it is Kazakhs, juice, lol.

I agree with @FinneysTrueVision's analysis. This match will end with Canelo winning by a wide decision or a late stoppage. If Canelo had stamina problem due to the excess weight at 175 it might also happen to Golovkin. Golovkin is not big and he is used to fighting as a middleweight for the most part of his career. Additional weight on Golovkin might affect his stamina. And given his old age, the excess weight might also make him slower which will be dangerous to Canelo's powerful attacks.

[Kasabus]

To hype everyone up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5niaQyq4iGo

Intense face off between the two, and it seems that both of them are ready for a war. It's going to be a great weekend match for everyone and for sure everyone's bet is already in. Noticed though that GGG seems to be not as weight drain, I mean yes he fought at 160 lbs most of his career and then he jumps to 168 lbs here, but you can see his face and his jaw is like round and full unlike those previous fights of his, just saying. So better invite your friends this weekend and watch the fight in PPV.

Thanks for the link.

As expected that there would be some slight physique change and i had noticed it too but its not that surprising considering that there's a slight bump on weight
but lets see if this one wont really be resulting into some sort of slow down.
Im already readying up for this upcoming weekend which would really be a good fight to look upon.Hope it wont disappoint.

GGG sounds not very confident or he wasn't asked the right question to say what has been needed to say but for the love of sport and Canelo wants to bring a good show for the people this Sept 16 which is the independence day of Mecico. Amazing how embarrassing could this be if Canelo loses the fight but Judges may really be on his side.

Nah man! GGG is showing the opposite thing, look at him smiling widely and entertaining the public which exactly shows how confident and happy he is that after a long time, he is now fighting Canelo for the 3rd time in same place. This is his first fight with Canelo in 168 pounds but he said that he is not that worried of the extra weight, tacos will suffice.

Yes, Mexico is celebrating their Independence Day this coming weekend and surely there will be a lot more Mexicans who will cheer and watch Canelo. I don't know how would he feel if he will be defeated in this precious weekend, I'm excited to find out.

[Pamadar]

Is the judges name have been announce already?
The reason why I'm asking is that we need to get the names of them and see if they have previously been involved in some unfair scoring or maybe they are on the Canelo's bandwagon?

Yep it has been announced who's the judges in this fight

The judges appointed for the fight are Dave Moretti, Steve Weisfeld and David Sutherland.

Dave Moretti has favoring to GGG on the first match, but he's favoring to Canelo on the second match, I think he judgement is fair enough since I consider GGG performance on the first match was better than the second.

Steve Weisfeld only become judges on the second match and he's favoring to Canelo too, while David Sutherland is new name on Canelo vs GGG fight. Looking how he gave a score [1] it seems that he's kind of judge who favor to favorited boxer.

[1] https://boxrec.com/en/judge/402543

These are veteran judges they know the weight of judging this fight fairly, but judges are human too, all the big fights that ended in a decision have some controversy in them, for GGG to win by decision it should be a performance like what Bivol did to Canelo when they meet, so he can win by unanimous decision for Canelo to win by decision it should be a performance like he did to Caleb Plant, the first three rounds are very important, we'll see if its the continuation of the first two fights, I hope to see something different on both fighters.

I'm also looking forward to see if how both will showcase their new and enhance fighting strategy.

It's been a long waited rematch and for sure both fighters will love to entertain the fans and bring more satisfying
toe-to-toe exchanges of punches.

I like your observation about how both fighters should win if the decision takes place, if they don't want another controversial
they needed to win it wide edge scoring advantages.

[Sithara007]

Dave Moretti has favoring to GGG on the first match, but he's favoring to Canelo on the second match, I think he judgement is fair enough since I consider GGG performance on the first match was better than the second.

Steve Weisfeld only become judges on the second match and he's favoring to Canelo too, while David Sutherland is new name on Canelo vs GGG fight. Looking how he gave a score [1] it seems that he's kind of judge who favor to favorited boxer.

[1] https://boxrec.com/en/judge/402543

I have a lot of respect for Dave Moretti, but unfortunately I don't agree with his scoring for both the matches. In the first match, he had Golovkin winning by 115-113, when it was 116-112 or 117-111 in reality. And in the second match also he was wrong. He had Canelo winning by 115-113, and I don't think that this score is a good representation of what happened in the ring. Same goes with Steve Weisfeld. I haven't heard about David Sutherland much and he seems to be someone who stays clear of controversies. 

[Sanitough]

Yes, Canelo will be hailed as the true winner if he will win in this trilogy but I don't think it will add some value to his career because GGG is not that kind of a trophy anymore in their case.
But if GGG will win then his value will indeed increase while Canelo will be devalued for getting defeated by a man who is already at the retirement stage and of course for being defeated twice in a row, all that happened in one year alone.

Canelo has nothing to gain and GGG has nothing to lose. That summarizes the situation from the current fight. If Canelo had accepted the challenge in 2019 and decisively defeated Golovkin, then he could have been hailed as the champion. But that was not the case. He delayed the fight needlessly for 2.5 years, so that GGG would get old. Now Golovkin is no longer in his prime and even if Canelo manages to defeat him (without the support from the judges), he won't be able to take a lot of credit for that win.

That's right, Canelo will be heavily affected if he will be the one who gets defeated here in this trilogy fight, people will start to question his strength because of the fact that he was defeated by GGG who is in the verge of his retirement and already years away from his prime.

But we can already tell that Canelo might likely win because almost everything are on his favor, even if the judges won't help him. Still, I'm interested how would this fight go because even though GGG is already old, I believe he can still make Canelo struggle.

[Japinat]

No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.

I'm pretty sure GGG knows that, therefore, I believe that he will try his best to win by KO/TKO, that way judges' decision is not necessary anymore. It's gonna be a war, GGG trying to win this trilogy while Canelo will try to have an impressive win so people will forget about how he lost to Bivol.

Aside from GGG, the whole public and the boxing industry knows about that too that's why I'm thinking that the judges this time might refrain from their habits of helping Canelo in terms of scores if ever the fight will get to the judge's hand once again. However, GGG shouldn't rely from that alone and should do his job as well in finishing the fight as early as he could so that the fight won't reach into the judge's hands.

Is the judges name have been announce already?
The reason why I'm asking is that we need to get the names of them and see if they have previously been involved in some unfair scoring or maybe they are on the Canelo's bandwagon?

I think that will be the aim for both of them, then will want to finished the fight as early and not let it go to the judges hands because there could be another controversy and the boxing community will surely be in an uproar if the judges didn't get it right again.

I dug some information and fortunately, I found the names of the judges who will be there in their fight later and among those judges, there's this Dave Moretti who was also present in their first two fights and then Steve Weisfeld who was also present in the rematch and the 3rd one is new. And I found out too that the 2 stated names of the judges were almost present in every fights of Canelo. Coincidence?

Here's some links for basis:
A Look At The Judges For Canelo-Golovkin 3
List of Canelo's fights and its Judges

[Baofeng]

Here are the official weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVHU44zuj48

Move forward to 4:48, GGG looks huge at 168 lbs hehehe.

GGG - 167.8
Canelo - 167.4 pounds

So let's see if GGG moving to super middleweight and with that added extra pounds will make him perform much better in this fight. Again, it's the debate about GGG age vs Canelo prime years, gonna be a good match for sure.

[goinmerry]

In the first match, he had Golovkin winning by 115-113, when it was 116-112 or 117-111 in reality.
And in the second match also he was wrong. He had Canelo winning by 115-113,

In the first match, he favored GGG.
In the rematch, he now favored Canelo.

Do you mean that in the first match, Canelo should have won and the result is not a split draw?
And for the rematch, GGG should win but he favored Canelo?

I'm confused about what you really think because as you said, you respect that judge who did that score, and seems that for me, he is fair in giving his scorecard and not siding with either Canelo or GGG.

[coin-investor]

Golovkin says in a pre-match interview that he has a lot of plans besides this fight with Canelo, so it looks like he's not going to leave anyway. When asked about a possible fourth fight with Canelo, GGG stated that he also does not rule out a similar outcome from this trilogy. And by the way, an interesting fact is that in his entire boxing career, including amateur boxing, Golovkin has never even been in knockdown.

I have seen his fight against Murata and he absorbed a lot of punches in the early rounds until Murata runs out of gas that's where he knocks him, in one of his interviews he was asked about the punch in round nine of their second match it was the hardest punch thrown by Canelo and he just felt it like a slap, Golovkin is really made for boxing and if there's one boxer who can be handed him his first knockdown it could be Canelo, and if there's one boxer who can knock Canelo out its going to be GGG, so we'll a day away from the fight we'll know the result.

[wxa7115]

Golovkin says in a pre-match interview that he has a lot of plans besides this fight with Canelo, so it looks like he's not going to leave anyway. When asked about a possible fourth fight with Canelo, GGG stated that he also does not rule out a similar outcome from this trilogy. And by the way, an interesting fact is that in his entire boxing career, including amateur boxing, Golovkin has never even been in knockdown.

I have seen his fight against Murata and he absorbed a lot of punches in the early rounds until Murata runs out of gas that's where he knocks him, in one of his interviews he was asked about the punch in round nine of their second match it was the hardest punch thrown by Canelo and he just felt it like a slap, Golovkin is really made for boxing and if there's one boxer who can be handed him his first knockdown it could be Canelo, and if there's one boxer who can knock Canelo out its going to be GGG, so we'll a day away from the fight we'll know the result.

The wait is almost over, the fight is only one day away, all the speculation will end and we will see if things will actually go as we predicted.

It’s going to be difficult for the fight to end with a KO by either side as they know each other very well, and I doubt they hold any kind of secret strategy to beat each other, the one that wins will do so based on the fundamentals of boxing and nothing else, however I really hope this time around there’s not really any kind of controversy with the judges as it happened already in the previous two fights.