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Question: What will be the outcome of this fight?
Errol Spence ko/tko
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November 12, 2022, 04:50:40 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

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November 12, 2022, 06:10:24 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them.

You said it right, he almost win that fight if not for the early knock down which gave Pacquiao a good advanatage, but he manage to fight back and win the remaining rounds, just so happened that knock down really give weight when making a decision, Thurman have a good shot in giving Spence Jr a tough job if ever these fight take place.

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Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated.

Being the title holder gives him the favorite, though he also have the best credentials as he don't have any loss in his entire career.

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November 12, 2022, 08:36:15 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

He is undefeated when he face Manny and was the champion, so yes there are a lot of experience under his belt. But that was his comeback fight coming from a injury. He was knock down early try to make a comeback against Manny but he fell short on the judges scorecard.

However, after that defeat, he wasn't the same, he took a break, so yeah he become idle, and then chooses an easy fight in this comeback as he fought Barios who is coming up in the welterweight division. But even if Thurman has the experience, I think Errol Spence is going to beat him.

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November 12, 2022, 09:45:39 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

He is undefeated when he face Manny and was the champion, so yes there are a lot of experience under his belt. But that was his comeback fight coming from a injury. He was knock down early try to make a comeback against Manny but he fell short on the judges scorecard.

Manny just got lucky in their fight, Manny made a statement on early round by knocking down Thurman which made Thurman a bit weary and take cautious in the following round.  If the knockdown didn't happen, I think Manny will lost that fight.

However, after that defeat, he wasn't the same, he took a break, so yeah he become idle, and then chooses an easy fight in this comeback as he fought Barios who is coming up in the welterweight division. But even if Thurman has the experience, I think Errol Spence is going to beat him.

Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

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November 13, 2022, 02:06:17 PM
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Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.



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November 13, 2022, 04:25:16 PM
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Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.

Yes, we seen it from his last fight when he made his comeback, the fighting form still good and the speed he still got it. A matter on what preparation he will take and how he will take his chance from the defending champ, if the fight happened fans will see how both fighters will bring everything on the ring.

Still favoring the belt holder for sure, but for the risk takers Thurman is something that they can give a good try for much higher ML odd.

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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.
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Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.

True that one loss does not make Thurman a bad boxer, but the thing is Thurman become idle for a long time, so many thinks that somehow Thurman's skill is a bit rusty even though he performed well in his last fight.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman.

I think this is a mandatory fight commissioned by the WBA council (if I am not mistaken)  So the possibility of the fight to push through is huge.

Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

Well we never know, Thurman has also that punching power to KO his opponent. besides his only loss is from the legendary boxer.

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November 13, 2022, 08:15:41 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

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November 13, 2022, 08:36:59 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Usually boxers wanted to keep themselves fit even if they are not fighting. Chances are Thurman might be very active in the background, maybe he is expecting that he might go and fight for this year again.

Nevertheless, ring rust will be a major problem for him. And he is not facing a B fighter here, or an old legendary, this is prime boxers, haven't seen a lost. So it will be a hard fight for him and I will agree that his chances might be slim against the version of Errol Spence.
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Usually boxers wanted to keep themselves fit even if they are not fighting. Chances are Thurman might be very active in the background, maybe he is expecting that he might go and fight for this year again.

Nevertheless, ring rust will be a major problem for him. And he is not facing a B fighter here, or an old legendary, this is prime boxers, haven't seen a lost. So it will be a hard fight for him and I will agree that his chances might be slim against the version of Errol Spence.

He's expecting a fight so most provably he prepare his self for that and I don't think there's a ring rust for him since he really want to have a come back on big scene. This is his chance to make his name create a noise so if he win against Spence then he can get all the glory and for sure get another big fight after this.

But if he lost to Spence then maybe this is a sign that he should retire because maybe he cannot get good matches after a defeat.

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November 13, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Usually boxers wanted to keep themselves fit even if they are not fighting. Chances are Thurman might be very active in the background, maybe he is expecting that he might go and fight for this year again.

Nevertheless, ring rust will be a major problem for him. And he is not facing a B fighter here, or an old legendary, this is prime boxers, haven't seen a lost. So it will be a hard fight for him and I will agree that his chances might be slim against the version of Errol Spence.

He's expecting a fight so most provably he prepare his self for that and I don't think there's a ring rust for him since he really want to have a come back on big scene. This is his chance to make his name create a noise so if he win against Spence then he can get all the glory and for sure get another big fight after this.

But if he lost to Spence then maybe this is a sign that he should retire because maybe he cannot get good matches after a defeat.

It was evident in the Manny Pacquiao fight though, Thurman might be suffering from ring rust as Manny took advantage and knock him out early. He tried to rally late in the rounds though, but was not enough.

For the Barrios fight, Barrios is not a true welterweight and so the ring rust didn't show as much as in the Pacquiao fight.

He might keep himself active, but it's very different when it is a the actual fight, him and Spence inside the ring, there could be jitters and bugs on the two boxers. But the first one that can settle down a bit could dictate the fight.

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If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Whether he is active with his training is out of our knowledge since there is no news that Thurman is still on training even though he is in idle status but I am sure that Thurman had started his training when the fight between him and Barrios was sealed.  Thurman is still sharp on his fight against Barrios, he dominates the Barrios even though Barrios is the bigger and looks more solid fighter.

So I think we shouldn't jump into a conclusion that Thurman doesn't pose a threat as other boxers.
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Whether he is active with his training is out of our knowledge since there is no news that Thurman is still on training even though he is in idle status but I am sure that Thurman had started his training when the fight between him and Barrios was sealed.  Thurman is still sharp on his fight against Barrios, he dominates the Barrios even though Barrios is the bigger and looks more solid fighter.

So I think we shouldn't jump into a conclusion that Thurman doesn't pose a threat as other boxers.

Thurman is a real challenge for Spence but when it comes down to skill Spence can deliver he is an A1 in his division no one can deny that claim I don't see Thurman beating Spence but I don't see Thurman getting knocked out by Spence too, Thurman's defense and stamina is still good compared to other fighters Spence fought, Spence is likely to win by unanimous decision, he is a very dominant fighter, very technical and likes to wait, expose his opponent's weakness and exploit it.
This fight is worth watching than the Crawford - Avanesyan fight which is going to be an easy fight for Crawford.
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Whether he is active with his training is out of our knowledge since there is no news that Thurman is still on training even though he is in idle status but I am sure that Thurman had started his training when the fight between him and Barrios was sealed.  Thurman is still sharp on his fight against Barrios, he dominates the Barrios even though Barrios is the bigger and looks more solid fighter.

So I think we shouldn't jump into a conclusion that Thurman doesn't pose a threat as other boxers.

Thurman is a real challenge for Spence but when it comes down to skill Spence can deliver he is an A1 in his division no one can deny that claim I don't see Thurman beating Spence but I don't see Thurman getting knocked out by Spence too, Thurman's defense and stamina is still good compared to other fighters Spence fought, Spence is likely to win by unanimous decision, he is a very dominant fighter, very technical and likes to wait, expose his opponent's weakness and exploit it.
This fight is worth watching than the Crawford - Avanesyan fight which is going to be an easy fight for Crawford.

Thurman though has a history of gassing out in later rounds as he usually faded. And if Spence is going to target his body which is his weakest, then for sure Spence could be the first out to knock out Thurman here.

For me, ever since that Pacquiao lost, he is a different boxer already, that mentality of him goes down. And i think his stamina will be in question here.

Spence is a different boxer, if he sense that his opponent in fading in the late round he might go and look for a knockout.
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November 14, 2022, 12:12:47 PM
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Thurman is a real challenge for Spence but when it comes down to skill Spence can deliver he is an A1 in his division no one can deny that claim I don't see Thurman beating Spence but I don't see Thurman getting knocked out by Spence too, Thurman's defense and stamina is still good compared to other fighters Spence fought, Spence is likely to win by unanimous decision, he is a very dominant fighter, very technical and likes to wait, expose his opponent's weakness and exploit it.
This fight is worth watching than the Crawford - Avanesyan fight which is going to be an easy fight for Crawford.

This is actually a good fight for Spence because there is no other contender in this division that is capable of beating him in his current prime I'm sure Thurman is happy to be given such kind of opportunity and I can't wait for Thurman to trash talk him once they promote this fight. This will be an exciting fight than Crawford has because he is fighting nobody while Spence right here will gonna fight a boxer that will gonna give him hard times inside the ring. It's just a matter of time before Spence can gauge well how to stop Thurman but until then he will gonna practice well because he is not sure how Thurman prepared for this fight.

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November 14, 2022, 12:23:58 PM
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Thurman is a real challenge for Spence but when it comes down to skill Spence can deliver he is an A1 in his division no one can deny that claim I don't see Thurman beating Spence but I don't see Thurman getting knocked out by Spence too, Thurman's defense and stamina is still good compared to other fighters Spence fought, Spence is likely to win by unanimous decision, he is a very dominant fighter, very technical and likes to wait, expose his opponent's weakness and exploit it.
This fight is worth watching than the Crawford - Avanesyan fight which is going to be an easy fight for Crawford.

This is actually a good fight for Spence because there is no other contender in this division that is capable of beating him in his current prime I'm sure Thurman is happy to be given such kind of opportunity and I can't wait for Thurman to trash talk him once they promote this fight. This will be an exciting fight than Crawford has because he is fighting nobody while Spence right here will gonna fight a boxer that will gonna give him hard times inside the ring. It's just a matter of time before Spence can gauge well how to stop Thurman but until then he will gonna practice well because he is not sure how Thurman prepared for this fight.

Thurman probably feels that he is given the opportunity to fight a champion and for sure he will not gonna take it easy, he will do all the hard work for him to upset Spence and for him to be a champion again. I know it's not gonna be an easy fight for him but I saw Thurman fight, he has a high IQ in the ring, hopefully his injury has fully healed already, so he can take the body shots from Spence.

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November 14, 2022, 02:12:20 PM
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Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.

Yes, and maybe Thurman's greatness is yet about to start and Spence will be just a stepping stone, we don't know. But that experience he had from Manny Pacquiao helped him to be a much more experienced boxer now, he may be inactive for quite some time after his defeat but now his looking forward to grab his 2nd win since he returned in the limelight.

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November 14, 2022, 02:46:44 PM
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Their records are quite close with one another, I'm not even seeing Thurman's first loss as a disadvantage. Spence is still on a streak but I guess he's still the 'underdog' (only on my point of view) if this match is really happening. One reason is experience of Thurman wherein he fought against big names of boxing industry (well spence as well) but I don't know; there's something with Thurman's previous opponents not only with pacman, which made me a bit of his fan. More like Thurman is more of a solid puncher for me, compared to Spence who often boxes out 'coz he's more of a texbook fighter.

Would be really a great match up. Big respect to the champ still even if I'm a fan of Thurman. Both have advantages;different styles in the 'square'. This would be exciting for sure!

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November 14, 2022, 02:55:51 PM
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Thurman has some experience fighting against the best (Pacman), and even if he lost against one of the greats, it's still a split decision which means he can compete among the best of them. Errol Spence is currently the favorite to win this matchup should this happen, as Thurman has been idle for quite a long time before coming back to fight against Barrios which he easily won, and Spence Jr. is just bashing heads back and forth and being undefeated. Hopefully we see this come to fruition as the boxing scene has been quite stale as of late.

If we speak about chances then there's a high chance that Spence will be fighting Thurman next and I cannot think of any possible reasons why would they skip him because it will be a big fight that comes with a lot of money, so Al might give Spence the blessing to fight Thurman. Aside from that, not to underestimate Thurman but he's the least risky opponent among Ennis and Ortiz Jr.

it is true that thurman has been idle for quite long. but if he is active with his training, in my opinion, it is not a guarantee that spence will win on this one. i still think thurman has some juice to give to this sports. so spence should not take this match lightly if in case this will push thru. thurman fought toe-to-toe with pacquiao before. so he knows what he's dealing with here and so high likely, he will seriously prepare for this fight.

Thurman almost had a win in that specific fight against Manny Pacquiao, if he wasn't knocked down on the first round, he could've won that fight because their scores are too close. That knocked down gave Pacquiao an advantage. Back to the fight, he was defeated but that wasn't a bad defeat at all because it was just a UD and so I really think that Thurman got a decent chance in upsetting Spence. Other than that, Thurman already got his tune-up fight and so he might've already overcome that ring rust, the only thing to do is getting ready for his next big fight with Spence.
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