Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman

[inthelongrun]

LOL.. anyone listened to the comments from Timothy Bradley Jr.? He accused Errol Spence of running away from a fight with Terrence Crawford. Now with Spence moving up a weight class, this fight will never take place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_x2VF1-q6Q

I don't necessarily agree with the rant from Bradley. But there is no question that 147 lb is the toughest division out there. Even after the departure of Spence and Thurman, this division now consists of Jaron Ennis, Terence Crawford, Conor Benn and Yordenis Ugas. Now compared to this, 154 looks like kindergarten class.

I haven't heard Tim Bradley's comment but I will agree that 147 lbs in the most stack up division for decades. I mean it's the cream of boxing besides the Heavyweight division. Bradley knows this as he has fought Manny at this weight.

In any case though, all fingers point to Errol Spence and his camp regarding the fall out, and it seems that he is not denying it isn't it? because we just hear him and his team says that they don't need Crawford because they have cemented their legacy already. But as fans we think otherwise, we need to see this fight happening as we want to see the best fighting against each other, and that is the history of that division.

This is very interesting, clearly, as he said, the rise in category would leave it out, but I think that the tone that Bradley used is obvious, he says it as if to "sting" Spence, and that can take a turn, it's not good at all For a boxer to say something like that, and even less to one like Spence, I know that Crawford looked for a fight against Spence a lot, but if it didn't happen and I went to iotri buvek, it's something lost, and yes, this has a different connotation From how we fans see it, this is something that can be noticed as running away, and each person gives their point of view, even if it sounds ugly, it will be to wait and see how this ends.

Every time I see Spence's face or his name online, I cannot stop my mind from thinking of a duck. Anyways, Tim Bradley and Shawn Porter are always the guys that I like listening to since they speak honestly and their opinions and analysis are free from any bias unlike those plastic shits when facing the camera. I'd rather hear someone honest. Tim is so right about entertainment and boxing. Boxing is entertainment but there are levels of it. Cherry picking like what Jake Paul, Tank Davis, and Ryan Garcia for example are just pure entertainment which is good for the money but they don't get legacies on their win.

Tim Bradley anyways just got inducted into the Hall of Fame. 2 division champion and was a unified and lineal champ at 140. Bradley didn't duck anybody during his time. It's a shame Spence took 3 belts already yet he failed to get the Ring belt award and be considered lineal since #1 and #2 in the division should fight each other in order to earn that recognition. I'd rather be Pacman who's got no major belts at 126 and 140 yet he was considered the lineal and held the Ring belts in those divisions after beating the real kings of those divisions.   

[btc_angela]

LOL.. anyone listened to the comments from Timothy Bradley Jr.? He accused Errol Spence of running away from a fight with Terrence Crawford. Now with Spence moving up a weight class, this fight will never take place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_x2VF1-q6Q

I don't necessarily agree with the rant from Bradley. But there is no question that 147 lb is the toughest division out there. Even after the departure of Spence and Thurman, this division now consists of Jaron Ennis, Terence Crawford, Conor Benn and Yordenis Ugas. Now compared to this, 154 looks like kindergarten class.

I haven't heard Tim Bradley's comment but I will agree that 147 lbs in the most stack up division for decades. I mean it's the cream of boxing besides the Heavyweight division. Bradley knows this as he has fought Manny at this weight.

In any case though, all fingers point to Errol Spence and his camp regarding the fall out, and it seems that he is not denying it isn't it? because we just hear him and his team says that they don't need Crawford because they have cemented their legacy already. But as fans we think otherwise, we need to see this fight happening as we want to see the best fighting against each other, and that is the history of that division.

This is very interesting, clearly, as he said, the rise in category would leave it out, but I think that the tone that Bradley used is obvious, he says it as if to "sting" Spence, and that can take a turn, it's not good at all For a boxer to say something like that, and even less to one like Spence, I know that Crawford looked for a fight against Spence a lot, but if it didn't happen and I went to iotri buvek, it's something lost, and yes, this has a different connotation From how we fans see it, this is something that can be noticed as running away, and each person gives their point of view, even if it sounds ugly, it will be to wait and see how this ends.

Every time I see Spence's face or his name online, I cannot stop my mind from thinking of a duck. Anyways, Tim Bradley and Shawn Porter are always the guys that I like listening to since they speak honestly and their opinions and analysis are free from any bias unlike those plastic shits when facing the camera. I'd rather hear someone honest. Tim is so right about entertainment and boxing. Boxing is entertainment but there are levels of it. Cherry picking like what Jake Paul, Tank Davis, and Ryan Garcia for example are just pure entertainment which is good for the money but they don't get legacies on their win.

It's clearly a duck on Spence side, if we are talking about the Crawford fall out. Yes, no doubt that Tim Bradley was a great boxer in this prime specially at 140 lbs and that big head is an advantage to him too because it's a tough nut to crack  .

But in any case regarding his opinion and analysis, it's a hit or miss as far as I know and he uses to exaggerate things when he talk about certain boxers and fights. I like Shawn Porter though, since he just retired and most of the fighter in 147 he has fought them so he really knows what he is talking when he discussed this division.

[stadus]

In any case though, all fingers point to Errol Spence and his camp regarding the fall out, and it seems that he is not denying it isn't it? because we just hear him and his team says that they don't need Crawford because they have cemented their legacy already. But as fans we think otherwise, we need to see this fight happening as we want to see the best fighting against each other, and that is the history of that division.

People already know the truth and it's evident enough why all fingers are pointing towards Errol Spence Jr. and Al Haymon, the fact is, the played Terence Crawford for months and let him expect that a fight will materialize. They haven't thought about their move well that someday it would backfire at them as they can't just hold those belts forever even if they got some influence.

Spence's camp are just hiding behind the reason that they already cemented their legacy, therefore Crawford won't be needed anymore. Honestly, when did they cemented it? After Ugas fight? They can't honestly fool everyone with that kind of shallow reasoning.

[chaser15]

Nothing we can do now as this fight will now be pushed.

In fairness, Keith Thurman can't be considered 100% cherry-picked. Even inactive for a long before his last win, Thurman might have the chance to give Spence some difficulties once they meet in the ring. Not unless there's a behind-the-table agreement since this fight is not just a clown but can be a staged one. I'm surprised that Thurman accepts this deal with all the favors to Spence. Maybe there's a secret agreement? That is possible.

Regardless, I like Thurman to be the serious Thurman that boxing fans usually see about him during his prime.

If by chance, I like him to win over Spence, from there, let's see what will be the next possible plans for Spence camp.

[Getmon]

Nothing we can do now as this fight will now be pushed.

In fairness, Keith Thurman can't be considered 100% cherry-picked. Even inactive for a long before his last win, Thurman might have the chance to give Spence some difficulties once they meet in the ring. Not unless there's a behind-the-table agreement since this fight is not just a clown but can be a staged one. I'm surprised that Thurman accepts this deal with all the favors to Spence. Maybe there's a secret agreement? That is possible.

Regardless, I like Thurman to be the serious Thurman that boxing fans usually see about him during his prime.

If by chance, I like him to win over Spence, from there, let's see what will be the next possible plans for Spence camp.

With no belts on the line, I have no clue why Thurman accepted the deal. Money could be to blame. Spence is the most money Thurman can make now that Pacquiao has retired. In addition, it is highly unlikely that PBC would permit Thurman to be fed to Crawford, a boxer outside of their promotion. I also want Thurman to win, but he needs to go back to the time when he wanted to fight the champions and the biggest names in boxing. It was the time when he was undefeated. Barrios is not Errol Spence, either.

[Ziskinberg]

Nothing we can do now as this fight will now be pushed.

In fairness, Keith Thurman can't be considered 100% cherry-picked. Even inactive for a long before his last win, Thurman might have the chance to give Spence some difficulties once they meet in the ring. Not unless there's a behind-the-table agreement since this fight is not just a clown but can be a staged one. I'm surprised that Thurman accepts this deal with all the favors to Spence. Maybe there's a secret agreement? That is possible.

Regardless, I like Thurman to be the serious Thurman that boxing fans usually see about him during his prime.

If by chance, I like him to win over Spence, from there, let's see what will be the next possible plans for Spence camp.

With no belts on the line, I have no clue why Thurman accepted the deal. Money could be to blame. Spence is the most money Thurman can make now that Pacquiao has retired. In addition, it is highly unlikely that PBC would permit Thurman to be fed to Crawford, a boxer outside of their promotion. I also want Thurman to win, but he needs to go back to the time when he wanted to fight the champions and the biggest names in boxing. It was the time when he was undefeated. Barrios is not Errol Spence, either.

Thurman can still benefit even if there's on belt on the line, he is fighting a champion and if he wins this fight, that would make him more popular and maybe next time he will be the one sitting at the top dictating the terms. A challenger would also do  everything, take the opportunity to fight and win until he gets his ultimate goal which is the belt.

[Pamadar]

Nothing we can do now as this fight will now be pushed.

In fairness, Keith Thurman can't be considered 100% cherry-picked. Even inactive for a long before his last win, Thurman might have the chance to give Spence some difficulties once they meet in the ring. Not unless there's a behind-the-table agreement since this fight is not just a clown but can be a staged one. I'm surprised that Thurman accepts this deal with all the favors to Spence. Maybe there's a secret agreement? That is possible.

Regardless, I like Thurman to be the serious Thurman that boxing fans usually see about him during his prime.

If by chance, I like him to win over Spence, from there, let's see what will be the next possible plans for Spence camp.

With no belts on the line, I have no clue why Thurman accepted the deal. Money could be to blame. Spence is the most money Thurman can make now that Pacquiao has retired. In addition, it is highly unlikely that PBC would permit Thurman to be fed to Crawford, a boxer outside of their promotion. I also want Thurman to win, but he needs to go back to the time when he wanted to fight the champions and the biggest names in boxing. It was the time when he was undefeated. Barrios is not Errol Spence, either.

Thurman can still benefit even if there's on belt on the line, he is fighting a champion and if he wins this fight, that would make him more popular and maybe next time he will be the one sitting at the top dictating the terms. A challenger would also do  everything, take the opportunity to fight and win until he gets his ultimate goal which is the belt.

Yup, even there's no belt that in stake the hypes for his name once he beats Spence is still good for his fame. If he's into a money fight, winning is a key to bring more for him.

Though, as a fighter who wanted to have a good legacy, belt is still very important aside
from the money that in stake the pride gives more credit when you already retire your gloves.

[Shamm]

Nothing we can do now as this fight will now be pushed.

In fairness, Keith Thurman can't be considered 100% cherry-picked. Even inactive for a long before his last win, Thurman might have the chance to give Spence some difficulties once they meet in the ring. Not unless there's a behind-the-table agreement since this fight is not just a clown but can be a staged one. I'm surprised that Thurman accepts this deal with all the favors to Spence. Maybe there's a secret agreement? That is possible.

Regardless, I like Thurman to be the serious Thurman that boxing fans usually see about him during his prime.

If by chance, I like him to win over Spence, from there, let's see what will be the next possible plans for Spence camp.

With no belts on the line, I have no clue why Thurman accepted the deal. Money could be to blame. Spence is the most money Thurman can make now that Pacquiao has retired. In addition, it is highly unlikely that PBC would permit Thurman to be fed to Crawford, a boxer outside of their promotion. I also want Thurman to win, but he needs to go back to the time when he wanted to fight the champions and the biggest names in boxing. It was the time when he was undefeated. Barrios is not Errol Spence, either.

Thurman can still benefit even if there's on belt on the line, he is fighting a champion and if he wins this fight, that would make him more popular and maybe next time he will be the one sitting at the top dictating the terms. A challenger would also do  everything, take the opportunity to fight and win until he gets his ultimate goal which is the belt.

For sure thurman will do his very best to win this fight and prove that he can be a good boxer and be a star in thier division. Once he will win this fight then his name will go more popular and known. So for now he must survive this challenge in order to have a good race in his career. Without a doubt for sure thurman can really do it as we all know how he fights inside the ring how is strategy work .

[Japinat]

I think there's no title that will be defended by Spence on their upcoming fight, right? Please feel freely to correct me if ever I'm wrong because to be honest, I'm really confused by their mandatory fight as their fight has been mandated to be fought at 154 lbs. where Spence has no belts. In addition, I'm under the impression that Thurman have no choice to agree because his time will be wasted if he won't be having any fight this time as his original mission is to chase some belts.

Since the fight is agreed on the higher weight Division, and not on the title's division, so yes there is no title defense which in contrast to the order released of the governing body of title defense.  I am still in confusion why does the fight like this happen in the higher division and why does the  boxing council accept this kind of arrangement when they are the one that ordered for that fight to happen.  Is boxing turning into a circus now? Where there is no rulings anymore and the boxer is freely able to decide the category to fight?

Since many are confused too about how this fight turned out, no choice but to wait for the result.

I'm thinking what will be the situation here if Thurman will upset Spence at 154 lbs.

I don't want the fight to happen but now, I want to see right away the possible aftermath of this fight regardless of who's the winner.

Well, to be honest, I just wanted that Thurman will indeed upset Spence even if there's no risk for the latter as there's no belt on the line. I just want them to have their first defeat, so that they will know and reflect on themselves that they are taking things too far and making an unjust situation for the other boxers.

[mirakal]

Nothing we can do now as this fight will now be pushed.

In fairness, Keith Thurman can't be considered 100% cherry-picked. Even inactive for a long before his last win, Thurman might have the chance to give Spence some difficulties once they meet in the ring. Not unless there's a behind-the-table agreement since this fight is not just a clown but can be a staged one. I'm surprised that Thurman accepts this deal with all the favors to Spence. Maybe there's a secret agreement? That is possible.

Regardless, I like Thurman to be the serious Thurman that boxing fans usually see about him during his prime.

If by chance, I like him to win over Spence, from there, let's see what will be the next possible plans for Spence camp.

With no belts on the line, I have no clue why Thurman accepted the deal. Money could be to blame. Spence is the most money Thurman can make now that Pacquiao has retired. In addition, it is highly unlikely that PBC would permit Thurman to be fed to Crawford, a boxer outside of their promotion. I also want Thurman to win, but he needs to go back to the time when he wanted to fight the champions and the biggest names in boxing. It was the time when he was undefeated. Barrios is not Errol Spence, either.

Thurman can still benefit even if there's on belt on the line, he is fighting a champion and if he wins this fight, that would make him more popular and maybe next time he will be the one sitting at the top dictating the terms. A challenger would also do  everything, take the opportunity to fight and win until he gets his ultimate goal which is the belt.

Yup, even there's no belt that in stake the hypes for his name once he beats Spence is still good for his fame. If he's into a money fight, winning is a key to bring more for him.

Though, as a fighter who wanted to have a good legacy, belt is still very important aside
from the money that in stake the pride gives more credit when you already retire your gloves.

No need to be hasty if I were Thurman because time is still by my side as I'm not that old to be hasty to have some belts, but I won't argue with you, belts is really good as Thurman's situation will make a big difference if he will upset Spence and get his belts, and in the first place, that's what Thurman wanted that is why he agreed to make this fight despite the order of WBC.

[Baofeng]

I think there's no title that will be defended by Spence on their upcoming fight, right? Please feel freely to correct me if ever I'm wrong because to be honest, I'm really confused by their mandatory fight as their fight has been mandated to be fought at 154 lbs. where Spence has no belts. In addition, I'm under the impression that Thurman have no choice to agree because his time will be wasted if he won't be having any fight this time as his original mission is to chase some belts.

Since the fight is agreed on the higher weight Division, and not on the title's division, so yes there is no title defense which in contrast to the order released of the governing body of title defense.  I am still in confusion why does the fight like this happen in the higher division and why does the  boxing council accept this kind of arrangement when they are the one that ordered for that fight to happen.  Is boxing turning into a circus now? Where there is no rulings anymore and the boxer is freely able to decide the category to fight?

Since many are confused too about how this fight turned out, no choice but to wait for the result.

I'm thinking what will be the situation here if Thurman will upset Spence at 154 lbs.

I don't want the fight to happen but now, I want to see right away the possible aftermath of this fight regardless of who's the winner.

Well, to be honest, I just wanted that Thurman will indeed upset Spence even if there's no risk for the latter as there's no belt on the line. I just want them to have their first defeat, so that they will know and reflect on themselves that they are taking things too far and making an unjust situation for the other boxers.

Hehehe, maybe some of us here wanted to see Thurman pull the biggest upset in 147 or 154 lbs and beat Spence hard.

But you have to think at where Thurman is right now, lost to Manny, had several injuries, didn't show good against a overblown 140 lbs fighter in Barrios and has a weakness, body punch. So it's tough for him to upset, but we will give him that chance though.

Who knows, maybe he will just wake up and suddenly become the Thurman at his prime and give on hell of a fight.

[stomachgrowls]

I think there's no title that will be defended by Spence on their upcoming fight, right? Please feel freely to correct me if ever I'm wrong because to be honest, I'm really confused by their mandatory fight as their fight has been mandated to be fought at 154 lbs. where Spence has no belts. In addition, I'm under the impression that Thurman have no choice to agree because his time will be wasted if he won't be having any fight this time as his original mission is to chase some belts.

Since the fight is agreed on the higher weight Division, and not on the title's division, so yes there is no title defense which in contrast to the order released of the governing body of title defense.  I am still in confusion why does the fight like this happen in the higher division and why does the  boxing council accept this kind of arrangement when they are the one that ordered for that fight to happen.  Is boxing turning into a circus now? Where there is no rulings anymore and the boxer is freely able to decide the category to fight?

Since many are confused too about how this fight turned out, no choice but to wait for the result.

I'm thinking what will be the situation here if Thurman will upset Spence at 154 lbs.

I don't want the fight to happen but now, I want to see right away the possible aftermath of this fight regardless of who's the winner.

Well, to be honest, I just wanted that Thurman will indeed upset Spence even if there's no risk for the latter as there's no belt on the line. I just want them to have their first defeat, so that they will know and reflect on themselves that they are taking things too far and making an unjust situation for the other boxers.

Hehehe, maybe some of us here wanted to see Thurman pull the biggest upset in 147 or 154 lbs and beat Spence hard.

But you have to think at where Thurman is right now, lost to Manny, had several injuries, didn't show good against a overblown 140 lbs fighter in Barrios and has a weakness, body punch. So it's tough for him to upset, but we will give him that chance though.

Who knows, maybe he will just wake up and suddenly become the Thurman at his prime and give on hell of a fight.

Trying out to look into his last fight which is against Barrios on last year ends up on Unanimous decision but not all would really be that amazed on what he had done there.Its been a while before he gets back into the ring after that Pacquiao fight in year 2019 which do ends up on split decision but its obvious on whose the winner of that and a bit mix of hamulating on that particular fight,
and now he's fighting Spence? I dont see any chance for him to win just like the rest but we know that upsets could happen whether they do make out some good preparations
or could pull off some lucky hard punch. 

[goinmerry]

...and now he's fighting Spence? I dont see any chance for him to win just like the rest but we know that upsets could happen whether they do make out some good preparations or could pull off some lucky hard punch. 

Keith Thurman is fighting Erroll Spence Jr. not because he wants to but rather because that's an offer.

As a former title holder and one of the dominant boxers before in his division, that is something a good opportunity and a big break he will have after a long hiatus since being defeated by a veteran Pacquiao and coming back later with a win against a not-that-big opponent.

If upset will happen, then let's see what's next for these two.

[Sithara007]

Keith Thurman is fighting Erroll Spence Jr. not because he wants to but rather because that's an offer.

As a former title holder and one of the dominant boxers before in his division, that is something a good opportunity and a big break he will have after a long hiatus since being defeated by a veteran Pacquiao and coming back later with a win against a not-that-big opponent.

If upset will happen, then let's see what's next for these two.

Thurman's career has been on a downward slide ever since he lost to Manny Pacquiao. So much so that his last year's win against Mario Barrios went almost unnoticed. Back then, he was the overwhelming favorite to win (although betting odds swung to Pacquiao's favor later as his fans rushed to make bets). After his loss to Pacquiao, he took a break from boxing, for almost 3 years. The fight against Spence is a chance of redemption for Thurman. He is 34-year old and this fight represents a golden opportunity for him to return to the form he once he had.

[Yaunfitda]

Keith Thurman is fighting Erroll Spence Jr. not because he wants to but rather because that's an offer.

As a former title holder and one of the dominant boxers before in his division, that is something a good opportunity and a big break he will have after a long hiatus since being defeated by a veteran Pacquiao and coming back later with a win against a not-that-big opponent.

If upset will happen, then let's see what's next for these two.

Thurman's career has been on a downward slide ever since he lost to Manny Pacquiao. So much so that his last year's win against Mario Barrios went almost unnoticed. Back then, he was the overwhelming favorite to win (although betting odds swung to Pacquiao's favor later as his fans rushed to make bets). After his loss to Pacquiao, he took a break from boxing, for almost 3 years. The fight against Spence is a chance of redemption for Thurman. He is 34-year old and this fight represents a golden opportunity for him to return to the form he once he had.

Yeah, and I think he is not into boxing anymore after that huge and humiliating lost to Manny Pacquiao. Because after that, he focuses himself to be a boxing commentator. And probably he has still a contract with PBC that's why he was somewhat 'force' to might Barrios at 147 lbs which is just a so so performance from him. And then he comes back again, and fighting the best version of Spence here. So this could really be make or break for him if he losses and probably he won't get the glory that he had, as he once dominated this division.

[LUCKMCFLY]

What's this an exhibition like fight? Just kidding, but without the belt there's no pressure for both sides and it will be more in the money
side, like the statement above both are under Haymon.

What the boss wants will probably take place, an arrange fight to make money right? there are still fans who will buy tickets and watch it via PPV.

Let see if what will be the update about this fight and how both camps will promote it.

If there is something that is clear to me, it is that Spence will not accept an exhibition fight, I think this boxer is looking for a higher level in terms of his category, he has not accepted a fight with Crawford who has done everything to be able to have a great performance. , now less if there is nothing associated with winning, in the case of Spence I speak, in the case of Thurman, I believe that anything is gain, but for him it could give more reputation and that is something that cannot be measured as a title, It's different, and maybe it's the boost he needs for him and open the doors for him, I think that's one of the reasons why maybe Spence wants this fight, to take pressure off of Crawford, well in itself that's what I speculate and I think it may be one of the reasons.


a impact:

Errol Spence Jr vs. Keith Thurman sanctioned by WBC

By Adam Baskin: Errol Spence Jr’s fight against Keith ‘One Time’ Thurman at 154 in April will reportedly be sanctioned by the WBC as a mandatory defense for Errol’s welterweight title with the organization. To be sure, it doesn’t make much sense for the WBC to sanction Spence’s non-title fight at junior middleweight as counting as a mandatory defense for his 147-lb belt, but it’s being done. The only way Adam Baskin can make any sense out of this nonsensical move by the World Boxing Council is that by them sanctioning the Spence-Thurman bout, at least there will be a sanctioning fee that will be involved.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/errol-spence-jr-vs-keith-thurman-sanctioned-by-wbc/

[Sithara007]

^^^ Everything else is OK. But please don't call this as the mandatory title defense. WBC has created a bad precedent here, which will definitely come back to bite them later. I am sure that we will enjoy the clash between Errol Spence and Keith Thurman. But what we don't need is this additional burden of title defense, which is completely unfair to the other athletes in 147lb and 154lb divisions. Anyway, now Caleb Plant has joined the party, after the rant against Spence from Timothy Bradley Jr. Take a look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/SweetHandsPlant/status/1617574782148685826

[Ziskinberg]

^^^ Everything else is OK. But please don't call this as the mandatory title defense. WBC has created a bad precedent here, which will definitely come back to bite them later. I am sure that we will enjoy the clash between Errol Spence and Keith Thurman. But what we don't need is this additional burden of title defense, which is completely unfair to the other athletes in 147lb and 154lb divisions. Anyway, now Caleb Plant has joined the party, after the rant against Spence from Timothy Bradley Jr. Take a look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/SweetHandsPlant/status/1617574782148685826

Spence has a lot of haters now, I can understand because he is not a type of boxer who always welcome good challenges, he likes to play safe where he knows he has a good advantage in the fight. A fight between Thurman should be a titled fight, that way we will see a justice to the winner, not fair IMO, I', not sure what's happening now but if this is the way they handle their business, you are right, it will bite them later.

[btc_angela]

In any case though, all fingers point to Errol Spence and his camp regarding the fall out, and it seems that he is not denying it isn't it? because we just hear him and his team says that they don't need Crawford because they have cemented their legacy already. But as fans we think otherwise, we need to see this fight happening as we want to see the best fighting against each other, and that is the history of that division.

People already know the truth and it's evident enough why all fingers are pointing towards Errol Spence Jr. and Al Haymon, the fact is, the played Terence Crawford for months and let him expect that a fight will materialize. They haven't thought about their move well that someday it would backfire at them as they can't just hold those belts forever even if they got some influence.

Spence's camp are just hiding behind the reason that they already cemented their legacy, therefore Crawford won't be needed anymore. Honestly, when did they cemented it? After Ugas fight? They can't honestly fool everyone with that kind of shallow reasoning.

Yes, I think they are and probably this is what they have brainwash Spence for thinking that he had a good career and cemented his career at 147 lbs without fighting Crawford.

I would agree that he has a good resume, no doubt, but there is one name missing in that record and that is Terrence Crawford.

So in any case he beat Thurman, still though there is this huge question in front of him for not fighting Bud.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^^^ Everything else is OK. But please don't call this as the mandatory title defense. WBC has created a bad precedent here, which will definitely come back to bite them later. I am sure that we will enjoy the clash between Errol Spence and Keith Thurman. But what we don't need is this additional burden of title defense, which is completely unfair to the other athletes in 147lb and 154lb divisions. Anyway, now Caleb Plant has joined the party, after the rant against Spence from Timothy Bradley Jr. Take a look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/SweetHandsPlant/status/1617574782148685826

I agree, I wouldn't call this mandatory defense as there are no belts on the line and then the fight is going at 154 lbs wherein the order was to fight at 147 lbs. Nevertheless, it seems that this fight is a go already, Thurman could have agreed.

I was not aware of the rant though, but I'm not surprise by the reaction of boxing analyst and even boxers are really this fight is sort of a joke and it's bad that the organizations has allowed this kind of set up.