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February 04, 2023, 11:20:43 AM
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Might be best for now to forget about the Crawford-Spence fight because the chances of happening the said bout is getting slimmer and slimmer as months and days goes by. Spence and Al Haymon is getting very unpredictable these days, all silent about their move and stuff and boom, the whole world is suddenly surprised because they made another circus in the industry with of course the blessing of the corrupt governing bodies.

When the first negotiation failed last year between Spence and Crawford's camp, should be right at that time when boxing fans should now forget it. The negotiation that happened last year was almost a done deal and the majority is now expecting an official announcement but at the last minute, it was announced failed instead due to some reason that is not being disclosed to the public.

Let's accept the fact now that Spence won't meet Crawford because there are lots of obstacles that are ruining the plan. Crawford just needs to move forward and win his future fights but since being not under any big promoters, he will likely just face a cherry-picked opponent as it's tough for his camp to secure a big fight without the involvement of a big promoter and that's the reality in boxing nowadays.

maybe both camps did not agree with the purse split. but in any case, we already moved on from this possible fight as each of them have already gone their separate ways. i think this will be another repeat of mayweather-pacquiao history. their respective promoters will make a deal once their respective boxers are already past their prime.

I think that Crawford has to focus on other boxers, win-win and not depend so much on a decision by Spence, if Spence doesn't want to fight him, why despite all that is what the boxer wants, and under no circumstances does he want to. to have the fight with him, at least not right now, so Crawford is a boxer who is giving too much importance to him and this is not good, because he will always live in the shadow of what Spence does and decides, I instead from Crawford I would forget about that fight and I would make life make Spence look for me for this fight, the world goes around a lot and this is something that can happen, you just have to be very patient.


Actually that's what he did, although he fought a less known fighter in Avanesyan after the fall out of the him and Spence negotiations. So probably he will continue to fight at 147 lbs and welcome all challengers, maybe the likes of Ortiz or Ennis (if he can still negotiate with PBC and Al Haymon). Or there is a picture of him and Oscar so perhaps there is an offer to fight under the banner or fight someone under GBP. So a lot of things are in the table for Crawford although the fight that we wanted is him and Spence.

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February 04, 2023, 08:42:26 PM
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Might be best for now to forget about the Crawford-Spence fight because the chances of happening the said bout is getting slimmer and slimmer as months and days goes by. Spence and Al Haymon is getting very unpredictable these days, all silent about their move and stuff and boom, the whole world is suddenly surprised because they made another circus in the industry with of course the blessing of the corrupt governing bodies.

When the first negotiation failed last year between Spence and Crawford's camp, should be right at that time when boxing fans should now forget it. The negotiation that happened last year was almost a done deal and the majority is now expecting an official announcement but at the last minute, it was announced failed instead due to some reason that is not being disclosed to the public.

Let's accept the fact now that Spence won't meet Crawford because there are lots of obstacles that are ruining the plan. Crawford just needs to move forward and win his future fights but since being not under any big promoters, he will likely just face a cherry-picked opponent as it's tough for his camp to secure a big fight without the involvement of a big promoter and that's the reality in boxing nowadays.

maybe both camps did not agree with the purse split. but in any case, we already moved on from this possible fight as each of them have already gone their separate ways. i think this will be another repeat of mayweather-pacquiao history. their respective promoters will make a deal once their respective boxers are already past their prime.

I think that Crawford has to focus on other boxers, win-win and not depend so much on a decision by Spence, if Spence doesn't want to fight him, why despite all that is what the boxer wants, and under no circumstances does he want to. to have the fight with him, at least not right now, so Crawford is a boxer who is giving too much importance to him and this is not good, because he will always live in the shadow of what Spence does and decides, I instead from Crawford I would forget about that fight and I would make life make Spence look for me for this fight, the world goes around a lot and this is something that can happen, you just have to be very patient.


Actually that's what he did, although he fought a less known fighter in Avanesyan after the fall out of the him and Spence negotiations. So probably he will continue to fight at 147 lbs and welcome all challengers, maybe the likes of Ortiz or Ennis (if he can still negotiate with PBC and Al Haymon). Or there is a picture of him and Oscar so perhaps there is an offer to fight under the banner or fight someone under GBP. So a lot of things are in the table for Crawford although the fight that we wanted is him and Spence.

You know, let's just understand Crawford's decision if he is still chasing with Spence because if we are on his shoes, I bet we will want the same thing too even if there are still other food on the table for us to choose from. What Spence have was the only lacking thing that Crawford need in-order to be the first back-to-back undisputed champion and to make a history.

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February 05, 2023, 10:18:36 AM
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You know, let's just understand Crawford's decision if he is still chasing with Spence because if we are on his shoes, I bet we will want the same thing too even if there are still other food on the table for us to choose from. What Spence have was the only lacking thing that Crawford need in-order to be the first back-to-back undisputed champion and to make a history.

Agree with that, Crawford wants to proved something because some still think that Spence is better than him since Spence has more belts compared to him. So he was asking for an undisputed fight to know who is the better fighter, but like what happened, it seemed like Spence is dodging him by making lots of excuses.

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February 05, 2023, 01:09:24 PM
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You know, let's just understand Crawford's decision if he is still chasing with Spence because if we are on his shoes, I bet we will want the same thing too even if there are still other food on the table for us to choose from. What Spence have was the only lacking thing that Crawford need in-order to be the first back-to-back undisputed champion and to make a history.

Agree with that, Crawford wants to proved something because some still think that Spence is better than him since Spence has more belts compared to him. So he was asking for an undisputed fight to know who is the better fighter, but like what happened, it seemed like Spence is dodging him by making lots of excuses.

He wanted to unify all the belts and prove that he is the best fighter in this division, it's something that most fighters who wanted to be known before they will retire.

But sad to say that Spence have other thing in mind and he wanted to keep his belt and his undisputted
records, he have his excuses and he don't want to commit and negotiate to initiate this kind of fight.
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February 05, 2023, 10:05:42 PM
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I think that Crawford has to focus on other boxers, win-win and not depend so much on a decision by Spence, if Spence doesn't want to fight him, why despite all that is what the boxer wants, and under no circumstances does he want to. to have the fight with him, at least not right now, so Crawford is a boxer who is giving too much importance to him and this is not good, because he will always live in the shadow of what Spence does and decides, I instead from Crawford I would forget about that fight and I would make life make Spence look for me for this fight, the world goes around a lot and this is something that can happen, you just have to be very patient.

Obviously, to fully unified the Welterweight titles, no choice for Crawford but to eagerly hope that someday Spence will fight him. It's not that Crawford is just focused on Spence without a big reason. Since Spence holds the 3 titles, Crawford needs to chase those titles as he is building a legacy. Kind of a waste if he will just move up without trying to achieve those 3 titles that Spence holds.

And looked where he end up? Fighting a non-popular boxer in replacement for the supposed fight with Spence. As much as they could, it was not wrong for Crawford's camp to keep chasing Spence as that was a mandatory thing to do.

But for that to happen, Crawford needs a solid promoter to take care of the negotiation.

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February 05, 2023, 10:15:40 PM
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I instead from Crawford I would forget about that fight and I would make life make Spence look for me for this fight, the world goes around a lot and this is something that can happen, you just have to be very patient.

You can say that easily because we are just a speculator here. I don't get why it's easy for you to say that he should forget about that fight against Spence. Crawford is not playing a kid boxing here and fighting Spence is the biggest fight he always wanted even during his tenure under Bob Arum. It does not make sense for him to just accept challenges from anyone. Not all the time he will just defend his belt as he also needs to chase new titles.

There's no way Spence will look for Crawford for a fight as for him there's no big reason to do it. That's why Crawford is the one aggressive for that fight to happen. If Crawford does have another better choice and option, why he will push for Spence's fight? But none.

As for most boxing fans, we like to see Crawford facing Spence someday and I won't give up waiting for that moment.

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February 06, 2023, 05:17:24 AM
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I think that Crawford has to focus on other boxers, win-win and not depend so much on a decision by Spence, if Spence doesn't want to fight him, why despite all that is what the boxer wants, and under no circumstances does he want to. to have the fight with him, at least not right now, so Crawford is a boxer who is giving too much importance to him and this is not good, because he will always live in the shadow of what Spence does and decides, I instead from Crawford I would forget about that fight and I would make life make Spence look for me for this fight, the world goes around a lot and this is something that can happen, you just have to be very patient.

Obviously, to fully unified the Welterweight titles, no choice for Crawford but to eagerly hope that someday Spence will fight him. It's not that Crawford is just focused on Spence without a big reason. Since Spence holds the 3 titles, Crawford needs to chase those titles as he is building a legacy. Kind of a waste if he will just move up without trying to achieve those 3 titles that Spence holds.

I believe the same goes with Spence, Spence will never unify the title if he don't fight Crawford.  Sure, Spence is younger than Crawford but the fact that his camp don't like to face Crawford for the unification bout, they are also wasting their time.  What if the next one to hold the title of WBO welterweight belt is better than Crawford and much younger, Spence would be regretting his camp's decision of docking a fight against Crawford.

And looked where he end up? Fighting a non-popular boxer in replacement for the supposed fight with Spence. As much as they could, it was not wrong for Crawford's camp to keep chasing Spence as that was a mandatory thing to do.

But for that to happen, Crawford needs a solid promoter to take care of the negotiation.

There is no sense to chase a unification fight if the other party is not interested.  The more Crawford camp chase for the fight, the more Spence will deny them the chance and it will make them look like a fool.  If I am Crawford's promoter, I'll just make a deal that will make huge income making Spence camp reconsider their actions.
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February 06, 2023, 11:16:23 AM
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There is no sense to chase a unification fight if the other party is not interested.  The more Crawford camp chase for the fight, the more Spence will deny them the chance and it will make them look like a fool.  If I am Crawford's promoter, I'll just make a deal that will make huge income making Spence camp reconsider their actions.
What if Spence main concern is that he might lose in the fight, and though he will make a lot of money but his undefeated record will be at stake, and the moment that 0 will be 1, his value to demand will not be as effective as now. Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.
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February 06, 2023, 01:21:49 PM
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There is no sense to chase a unification fight if the other party is not interested.  The more Crawford camp chase for the fight, the more Spence will deny them the chance and it will make them look like a fool.  If I am Crawford's promoter, I'll just make a deal that will make huge income making Spence camp reconsider their actions.
What if Spence main concern is that he might lose in the fight, and though he will make a lot of money but his undefeated record will be at stake, and the moment that 0 will be 1, his value to demand will not be as effective as now. Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.

More on this kind of speculation and opinions, Spence is not concern about the money but more on the belt and his undisputed records, seems
that he doesn't want to let it go that's why him and his camp still ignoring Crawford's desire to fight.

For now, the chance of getting positive possibilities regarding to this possible fight is still far from reality, Spence's camp is not willing to take the offer.

Crawford's decision to keep making money from fights that he will get is enough while he's still young and capable to fight.
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February 06, 2023, 09:35:23 PM
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If I am Crawford's promoter, I'll just make a deal that will make huge income making Spence camp reconsider their actions.

Terence Crawford is currently a free agent. How can he even secure a big deal with expected generated income? Spence won't bother with the money as it's clear he just wants to protect his record and maybe buy some time to delay the mega bout.

To secure a mega big bout, it's more possible to happen if big known promoters will try to do a negotiation for it. Boxing is a business and not just a legacy.

Crawford is defending his title 6 times already that's why he wants to get out on that. Chasing the unification fight against Spence is the better thing to do at this point of his career and nothing else even Spence's camp does have other priorities and likely will stay at 154 after the fight against Thurman.

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Last edit: February 07, 2023, 11:21:49 PM by LUCKMCFLY
 #551

Might be best for now to forget about the Crawford-Spence fight because the chances of happening the said bout is getting slimmer and slimmer as months and days goes by. Spence and Al Haymon is getting very unpredictable these days, all silent about their move and stuff and boom, the whole world is suddenly surprised because they made another circus in the industry with of course the blessing of the corrupt governing bodies.

When the first negotiation failed last year between Spence and Crawford's camp, should be right at that time when boxing fans should now forget it. The negotiation that happened last year was almost a done deal and the majority is now expecting an official announcement but at the last minute, it was announced failed instead due to some reason that is not being disclosed to the public.

Let's accept the fact now that Spence won't meet Crawford because there are lots of obstacles that are ruining the plan. Crawford just needs to move forward and win his future fights but since being not under any big promoters, he will likely just face a cherry-picked opponent as it's tough for his camp to secure a big fight without the involvement of a big promoter and that's the reality in boxing nowadays.

maybe both camps did not agree with the purse split. but in any case, we already moved on from this possible fight as each of them have already gone their separate ways. i think this will be another repeat of mayweather-pacquiao history. their respective promoters will make a deal once their respective boxers are already past their prime.

I think that Crawford has to focus on other boxers, win-win and not depend so much on a decision by Spence, if Spence doesn't want to fight him, why despite all that is what the boxer wants, and under no circumstances does he want to. to have the fight with him, at least not right now, so Crawford is a boxer who is giving too much importance to him and this is not good, because he will always live in the shadow of what Spence does and decides, I instead from Crawford I would forget about that fight and I would make life make Spence look for me for this fight, the world goes around a lot and this is something that can happen, you just have to be very patient.


Actually that's what he did, although he fought a less known fighter in Avanesyan after the fall out of the him and Spence negotiations. So probably he will continue to fight at 147 lbs and welcome all challengers, maybe the likes of Ortiz or Ennis (if he can still negotiate with PBC and Al Haymon). Or there is a picture of him and Oscar so perhaps there is an offer to fight under the banner or fight someone under GBP. So a lot of things are in the table for Crawford although the fight that we wanted is him and Spence.

I am hopeful that this fight between him and Spence can take place, because the fights that await Spence he can lose, he is not a robot or a demolition machine, he is a human, and just as he has great strength and a great technique can have a boxer who is or has prepared much better than him and surprises him, what happens is that right now Spence has a privileged position, as long as he continues to win fights he can almost choose who to fight with, and with whom It can have a higher degree of fame, although for us fans we would love a great rematch, this is something that only they can decide.

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Beterbiev vs. Bivol is bigger than Spence vs. Crawford says Eddie Hearn





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By Jim Calfa: Eddie Hearn says that he views the undisputed light heavyweight match between champions Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol as a bigger fight than the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford clash. Hearn feels that boxing fans are bored with welterweight champions Spence & Crawford because they’ve been talking about fighting each other for years and have done nothing. It’s a case of fans tired of these two fighters not facing each other and mainly facing nondescript opposition throughout their careers. Spence & Crawford are in their 30s, and they don’t have too much time left as major players. With their inactivity, it wouldn’t be surprising if their careers are over in four or five fights, which will likely consume 4 to 5 years.

Source: Beterbiev Vs. Bivol Is Bigger Than Spence Vs. Crawford Says Eddie Hearn - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/beterbiev-vs-bivol-is-bigger-than-spence-vs-crawford-says-eddie-hearn/)


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/beterbiev-vs-bivol-is-bigger-than-spence-vs-crawford-says-eddie-hearn/


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February 06, 2023, 11:10:59 PM
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Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.

And that led Spence to fight Keith Thurman instead but the crazy thing here is, he will defend his 3 titles at 147 lbs at 154 weight division lol.

Maybe if Spence wins against Thurman, he needs to decide whether to continue at 154 or not. If he continues at 154, he should give up his titles at 146, and with that being said, it will be vacant and Crawford now has a chance to fight for a unification fight.

But with the way things are happening, looks like even the boxing council themselves like WBC don't want their baby boy Spence to be faced by Crawford.
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February 07, 2023, 02:56:51 AM
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As for this fight, it's done deal already, hopefully we can see a good fight or even upset win from Thurman, who knows.

It's not impossible to happen, Spence has not fought a boxer like Thurman, and although he had one lose he was never been dominated by his opponent in the ring, his loss to Manny Pacquiao was a close one, so I will not count Thurman out, I mean he still has something to prove and he can definitely upset Spence who is the heavy favorite.

This fight, it gives us real entertainment as Spence will surely be busy protecting himself and looking for the perfect timing to hurt Thurman.
I'm just a little worried about Thurman's weak spot, his body.

If it wasn't for Pacquiao's early knockdown, the fight could've been owned by Keith because the judge's score wasn't that huge in gap but unfortunately that wasn't the case as he was surprised by the Philippine legend. So anyway, that's more than enough evidence to believe that Keith truly stand a chance against Spence and that he might be the one who will surprise us this time.

Well I can't deny that I would like Thurman to be able to give a big surprise, I know something I would really like, honestly the one who has the advantage here is Spence, and of course they also have a lot to lose if they lose against Thurman, so they don't I think it will only leave him so easy, however Spence is one of those boxers who will not leave anything in the air or leave eggs, he will start with everything from the beginning, I think that because of his style he will seek to make a knockout I don't know what a hunch tells me, that way they will finish sealing their supremacy (if they succeed) otherwise, I think they will be able to put on a good show.


Spence will defend his title and like what you mentioned he will take everything to secure a win, either to use more defensive
stop and not to give Thurman a chance to throw a solid combination,

Or, he can be more aggressive and try to KO Thurman in the early rounds, it will be defended from how they will prepare.

The good thing here is we will see who will shine up once they already inside the ring.

Yes, I think it will be that way, I don't see any other way, Thurman will also seek to keep the title, he is a boxer who looks like he really wants it, but I say something, where Thurman beats Spence it would be like a bump for everything, as for himself as well as for the high rollers, because I have not seen much support for Thurman, some in their mocking tone say that this will be like an exhibition for Spence, sometimes we can be very sure of a result due to the high category of a boxer, but it is not good to underestimate the other so much, I say that if he is there it is for something and because he has a sufficient level.

Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.

And that led Spence to fight Keith Thurman instead but the crazy thing here is, he will defend his 3 titles at 147 lbs at 154 weight division lol.

Maybe if Spence wins against Thurman, he needs to decide whether to continue at 154 or not. If he continues at 154, he should give up his titles at 146, and with that being said, it will be vacant and Crawford now has a chance to fight for a unification fight.

But with the way things are happening, looks like even the boxing council themselves like WBC don't want their baby boy Spence to be faced by Crawford.

This is something that sometimes I don't understand, I don't know how bad it is that he has to fight against Crawford, what we have here is something that Spence can play or not, in the case that we have seen in boxing, Inoue already does He did it to rise in the category, the fact of renouncing his titles did nothing to him, and this is something he assumed without any oprble, I think that these things are viable to do, first because he knows that those titles continue to renounce them even Being his, I think the same thing could happen to Spence, and just not seeing Crawford is something that I don't think is worth it, that's how I see it.

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Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.

And that led Spence to fight Keith Thurman instead but the crazy thing here is, he will defend his 3 titles at 147 lbs at 154 weight division lol.

Maybe if Spence wins against Thurman, he needs to decide whether to continue at 154 or not. If he continues at 154, he should give up his titles at 146, and with that being said, it will be vacant and Crawford now has a chance to fight for a unification fight.

But with the way things are happening, looks like even the boxing council themselves like WBC don't want their baby boy Spence to be faced by Crawford.

Funny to think that even the organization is not willing to make this fight to happen, they are protecting Spence who really doing
his best in avoiding the negotiation against Crawford.

Like what you mentioned, instead of discussing the fight with Crawford, his camp and the organization push the fight against Thurman.

Not a title fight but still good as Thurman is not an easy opponent to beat up, Spence will be tested now if he can KO Thurman
with his speed and solid punches.
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February 08, 2023, 02:56:36 AM
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In any case though, all fingers point to Errol Spence and his camp regarding the fall out, and it seems that he is not denying it isn't it? because we just hear him and his team says that they don't need Crawford because they have cemented their legacy already. But as fans we think otherwise, we need to see this fight happening as we want to see the best fighting against each other, and that is the history of that division.

People already know the truth and it's evident enough why all fingers are pointing towards Errol Spence Jr. and Al Haymon, the fact is, the played Terence Crawford for months and let him expect that a fight will materialize. They haven't thought about their move well that someday it would backfire at them as they can't just hold those belts forever even if they got some influence.

Spence's camp are just hiding behind the reason that they already cemented their legacy, therefore Crawford won't be needed anymore. Honestly, when did they cemented it? After Ugas fight? Grin They can't honestly fool everyone with that kind of shallow reasoning.

Yes, I think they are and probably this is what they have brainwash Spence for thinking that he had a good career and cemented his career at 147 lbs without fighting Crawford.

I would agree that he has a good resume, no doubt, but there is one name missing in that record and that is Terrence Crawford.

So in any case he beat Thurman, still though there is this huge question in front of him for not fighting Bud.

I really doubt that Spence cemented his legacy already. He owns 3 belts in the division but he is still not considered the lineal and Ring belt champion of the division because the rule is for #1 and #2 to fight each other for the vacant Ring belt and be considered lineal. I say Errol Spence's name will never be considered in the Hall of Fame with his current accomplishments. If Spence has no plans to face Crawford then he needs to become undisputed at 154 or at least conquer 2 more divisions in order to cement his legacy in the Hall of Fame.

While Terrence Crawford has more than enough to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. In reality, it is Crawford that do not need Spence when it comes to legacy. Crawford is already a 3 division champion and was the first undisputed champion at 140 in this 4-belt era. But Crawford clearly wanted more to his legacy as he is also aiming to become the first ever 2 or 3-division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era. What's stopping Crawford from that chance is Spence and his close friend Jermell Charlo the undisputed champion at 154.     

That's just another way of Spence from saying that he is indeed scared of the risky situation that Crawford will bring if he agrees to fight him in a unification match. He can say all he wants and that his legacy is already cemented but no one will believe him because people know the truth and he will be a laughing stock in the whole boxing industry for running away from Crawford and this time, bringing the fight towards the super-welter so that he won't have the chance of losing his belt because Thurman is still a threat.

Well I can't find another way to see Spence's refusal against Crawford not to fight him, Crawford has been urging him to fight Spence for a long time, and in fact last year I know that all those months Crawford was looking for the fight and training enough to fight him, Spence's refusal causes a lot of controversy because this is partly not very well seen, it is seen as a fear, in boxing these things are not seen well, however now everything points to Thurman, my doubt is The next; If Thurman does the unthinkable thing which is to beat Spence, then how would Spence fare against Crawford? easier for Crawford to get that fight?

Eddie Hearn talks Spence vs Thurman, Canelo vs Bivol rematch, Kell Brook, and more



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Eddie Hearn was just recently interviewed by boxing media reporters who ask him to touch on a number of hot topics in the boxing sphere, including a proposed 154 lb fight between Errol Spence and Keith Thurman, a potential Canelo Alvarez rematch with Dmitry Bivol, and how things are going for Kell Brook who has gone a bit viral as of late. Check out some of what Hearn had to say below.

Source: https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/2/6/23587654/eddie-hearn-talks-spence-vs-thurman-canelo-vs-bivol-rematch-kell-brook-and-more-boxing-news-2023

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February 08, 2023, 09:05:37 AM
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Well I can't find another way to see Spence's refusal against Crawford not to fight him, Crawford has been urging him to fight Spence for a long time, and in fact last year I know that all those months Crawford was looking for the fight and training enough to fight him, Spence's refusal causes a lot of controversy because this is partly not very well seen, it is seen as a fear, in boxing these things are not seen well, however now everything points to Thurman, my doubt is The next; If Thurman does the unthinkable thing which is to beat Spence, then how would Spence fare against Crawford? easier for Crawford to get that fight?


I wish he could do that so that Spence will no longer have the reason to avoid Crawford and unfortunately that would be less interesting anymore because it's not a fight to save the clean record for both of them anymore but for Crawford only. Anyway, let's just see how will it turn out with this upcoming fight and when Spence will gonna just finish Thurman easily, then there will be no point in him fighting anybody except Crawford.

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<>and when Spence will gonna just finish Thurman easily, then there will be no point in him fighting anybody except Crawford.
It's not gonna happen, if Spence even struggle against Porter, I think Thurman is the better fighter than Porter, so in case Spence will win, that should not be an easy fight. In fact, I think Spence is just overrated, he just know how to choose his opponent well to maintain his clean record, but this time, he is wrong in choosing Thurman.

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<>and when Spence will gonna just finish Thurman easily, then there will be no point in him fighting anybody except Crawford.
It's not gonna happen, if Spence even struggle against Porter, I think Thurman is the better fighter than Porter, so in case Spence will win, that should not be an easy fight. In fact, I think Spence is just overrated, he just know how to choose his opponent well to maintain his clean record, but this time, he is wrong in choosing Thurman.

After his loss to Manny Pacquiao, Thurman has participated in just one fight (against Mario Barrios). That is one fight in almost three and half years. And even during the fight against Barrios he didn't looked very confident. Eventually he won by UD, but that was against someone who lost to Gervonta Davis by TKO. The match was closer than what the scores suggested (117-111 and 2x 118-110). Spence just need to stay focused. The only possibility of a Thurman win, is in case Spence makes a mistake (or gets overconfident).

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<>and when Spence will gonna just finish Thurman easily, then there will be no point in him fighting anybody except Crawford.
It's not gonna happen, if Spence even struggle against Porter, I think Thurman is the better fighter than Porter, so in case Spence will win, that should not be an easy fight. In fact, I think Spence is just overrated, he just know how to choose his opponent well to maintain his clean record, but this time, he is wrong in choosing Thurman.

After his loss to Manny Pacquiao, Thurman has participated in just one fight (against Mario Barrios). That is one fight in almost three and half years. And even during the fight against Barrios he didn't looked very confident. Eventually he won by UD, but that was against someone who lost to Gervonta Davis by TKO. The match was closer than what the scores suggested (117-111 and 2x 118-110). Spence just need to stay focused. The only possibility of a Thurman win, is in case Spence makes a mistake (or gets overconfident).
Different opponents might result in a different outcome, so it's hard to conclude that Spence will just easily beat Thurman when they face. And after that fight with Barrios, I'm sure Thurman does not stop improving himself as he know he will be up against a bigger battle, and that is what's gonna happen soon.
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<>and when Spence will gonna just finish Thurman easily, then there will be no point in him fighting anybody except Crawford.
It's not gonna happen, if Spence even struggle against Porter, I think Thurman is the better fighter than Porter, so in case Spence will win, that should not be an easy fight. In fact, I think Spence is just overrated, he just know how to choose his opponent well to maintain his clean record, but this time, he is wrong in choosing Thurman.

After his loss to Manny Pacquiao, Thurman has participated in just one fight (against Mario Barrios). That is one fight in almost three and half years. And even during the fight against Barrios he didn't looked very confident. Eventually he won by UD, but that was against someone who lost to Gervonta Davis by TKO. The match was closer than what the scores suggested (117-111 and 2x 118-110). Spence just need to stay focused. The only possibility of a Thurman win, is in case Spence makes a mistake (or gets overconfident).
Different opponents might result in a different outcome, so it's hard to conclude that Spence will just easily beat Thurman when they face. And after that fight with Barrios, I'm sure Thurman does not stop improving himself as he know he will be up against a bigger battle, and that is what's gonna happen soon.

Of course, it will always be the case, there is no comparison fight in boxing, or as what they said, triangle theory in here.

However, we can say that Thurman didn't really perform well against Barrios, everyone is expecting that he will come back strong and make a statement win. Barrios is not even a legitimate 147 lbs, he just move up in weight but Thurman just win by the judges decision.

And now he is going to fight the best of the welterweight but going up in super welterweight.

 
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