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Question: What will be the outcome of this fight?
Errol Spence ko/tko
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Keith Thurman ko/tko
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February 20, 2023, 08:11:40 AM
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That's what I want to see, but you know, Spence is a durable fighter, he even goes toe to toe against Porter, and seems like nothing happened to him. Well, maybe Thurman is better and has good power as he also beat Porter. I'm expecting to see a toe to toe fight as these fighters are both aggressive, so we might likely see a KO here.

The last time Thurman got a KO was almost 10 years ago, against Jesús Soto Karass. After that, it was a series of UD, SDs and MDs and the (in)famous loss against Manny Pacquiao. Errol Spence Jr. on the other hand, knocked the senses out of Yordenis Ugás in his last fight. More than 75% of his wins have been in KO. I don't know.. maybe there is a good chance that Spence will defeat Thurman by KO. And as expected, Spence starts as a heavy favorite. Odds are -800 for Errol Spence Jr. , and +490 for Keith Thurman.

I do agree, and as we can see Thurman has soften a lot in his last fight against Mario Barrios, we can even call it a mismatch because Barrios is a career 140 lbs fighter who just move up to the division and Thurman performance was not enough close to being a statement win.

While on the other hand Spence just destroyed Ugas who I thought could be a good fight for Spence and should be close. But Ugas fought Spence fight that's why he lost that way. And if Thurman is not 'intelligent' enough to fall for Spence fight, then Errol could score a big knockout down in the middle to late rounds. He is the heavy favorite here, maybe the line will move but not that much.

Well, the speculations are many and we all have hope that the fight will be of another level, on the other hand we can see that Thurman has had many who believe that he could surprise, and yes, it may be, some focus on the previous fights and some may say that Spence has more experience than him, this is something that can happen, here in boxing experience is very valuable, and a large number of things can be generated according to training, but all this takes away from what he can give a closer prediction, I'm still focusing on Spence winning the fight, I don't have much detail on Thurman.


I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.
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February 20, 2023, 01:36:22 PM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I believe the outcome of Thurman's last fight has no connection to why he is the underdog here. Even if he won impressively, he would remain an underdog since Spence is currently in his prime, undefeated, and ranked in the top 3 of the pound-for-pound rankings, if I'm not mistaken. And the fact that this fight is a non-title fight, I guess Thurman does have a decent chance, as Spence might not bring the energy he usually brings to a fight.

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February 20, 2023, 06:16:52 PM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I believe the outcome of Thurman's last fight has no connection to why he is the underdog here. Even if he won impressively, he would remain an underdog since Spence is currently in his prime, undefeated, and ranked in the top 3 of the pound-for-pound rankings, if I'm not mistaken. And the fact that this fight is a non-title fight, I guess Thurman does have a decent chance, as Spence might not bring the energy he usually brings to a fight.

Yes, regardless if that Thurman fight, he will still be the underdog against Spence.

But I think the point is that Thurman didn't look good in his last fight, everyone expects him to have a statement win against a overblown 140 lbs in Barrios. Or maybe Barrios is just as tough as anyone in this division as he won his comeback fight.

Spence though need to bring his A-side against Thurman, as you have said, maybe Thurman doesn't look good against Barrios, but for sure the stakes is high in this fight and we might see him bring his best against a prime Spence.

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February 20, 2023, 08:18:45 PM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I believe the outcome of Thurman's last fight has no connection to why he is the underdog here. Even if he won impressively, he would remain an underdog since Spence is currently in his prime, undefeated, and ranked in the top 3 of the pound-for-pound rankings, if I'm not mistaken. And the fact that this fight is a non-title fight, I guess Thurman does have a decent chance, as Spence might not bring the energy he usually brings to a fight.

You got a point there mate, but the thing is, I don't think that Errol Spence is willing to take a defeat this time against a boxer who just got back from a long lay-off. I mean, why would he not bring his usual energy? A defeat will certainly mean something for him directly as his name and value will depreciate for sure. Either way, yes, Keith Thurman really do stand a chance against the prime Spence but let's see how will he handle the situation.
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February 20, 2023, 10:15:55 PM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I think in another level means an elevated performance. He was expecting that both boxers will up their gameplay and perform better than before which I think is possible,  But one thing I am thinking if Thurman will do his best now that they are fighting in an upper-weight division without any title at stake.

You got a point there mate, but the thing is, I don't think that Errol Spence is willing to take a defeat this time against a boxer who just got back from a long lay-off. I mean, why would he not bring his usual energy? A defeat will certainly mean something for him directly as his name and value will depreciate for sure. Either way, yes, Keith Thurman really do stand a chance against the prime Spence but let's see how will he handle the situation.

Obviously, Errol Spence doesn't want his record to have a blemish, any boxer with a perfect record will always be wanted to preserve that, the only question is, if they have the capability.
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February 20, 2023, 11:59:13 PM
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Obviously, Errol Spence doesn't want his record to have a blemish, any boxer with a perfect record will always be wanted to preserve that, the only question is, if they have the capability.

Too much protecting the record to the point that he avoids fighting Crawford lol.

Instead, he moved up weight and fight an inactive boxer which is not even close to his style and competition.

Regardless though, I hope that there's no under-the-table here (if you know what I mean) and Thurman will be serious enough to pin down Spence on the canvass no matter how difficult it is to do so.

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February 21, 2023, 02:48:52 AM
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Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.

And that led Spence to fight Keith Thurman instead but the crazy thing here is, he will defend his 3 titles at 147 lbs at 154 weight division lol.

Maybe if Spence wins against Thurman, he needs to decide whether to continue at 154 or not. If he continues at 154, he should give up his titles at 146, and with that being said, it will be vacant and Crawford now has a chance to fight for a unification fight.

But with the way things are happening, looks like even the boxing council themselves like WBC don't want their baby boy Spence to be faced by Crawford.

Funny to think that even the organization is not willing to make this fight to happen, they are protecting Spence who really doing
his best in avoiding the negotiation against Crawford.

Like what you mentioned, instead of discussing the fight with Crawford, his camp and the organization push the fight against Thurman.

Not a title fight but still good as Thurman is not an easy opponent to beat up, Spence will be tested now if he can KO Thurman
with his speed and solid punches.
I already see this as unprofessional, if I were a professional boxer I wouldn't refuse to fight him as a challenge, that lends itself to thinking later that somehow I dodged it out of fear, a boxer can say that he didn't want to fight with them out of fear, it is very easy and more like the boxers of today, what they do is show off for themselves and they say they are the best, where the right thing to do is expect others to praise them, it doesn't matter Wherever they come from, what matters is that a fight can happen, but that's why so much with that fight, Spence must accept that fight with Crawford.

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February 21, 2023, 12:57:01 PM
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Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.

And that led Spence to fight Keith Thurman instead but the crazy thing here is, he will defend his 3 titles at 147 lbs at 154 weight division lol.

Maybe if Spence wins against Thurman, he needs to decide whether to continue at 154 or not. If he continues at 154, he should give up his titles at 146, and with that being said, it will be vacant and Crawford now has a chance to fight for a unification fight.

But with the way things are happening, looks like even the boxing council themselves like WBC don't want their baby boy Spence to be faced by Crawford.

Funny to think that even the organization is not willing to make this fight to happen, they are protecting Spence who really doing
his best in avoiding the negotiation against Crawford.

Like what you mentioned, instead of discussing the fight with Crawford, his camp and the organization push the fight against Thurman.

Not a title fight but still good as Thurman is not an easy opponent to beat up, Spence will be tested now if he can KO Thurman
with his speed and solid punches.
I already see this as unprofessional, if I were a professional boxer I wouldn't refuse to fight him as a challenge, that lends itself to thinking later that somehow I dodged it out of fear, a boxer can say that he didn't want to fight with them out of fear, it is very easy and more like the boxers of today, what they do is show off for themselves and they say they are the best, where the right thing to do is expect others to praise them, it doesn't matter Wherever they come from, what matters is that a fight can happen, but that's why so much with that fight, Spence must accept that fight with Crawford.


We can't force him or his camp as they are in the position and they really avoiding the possibilities to negotiate whatever
the reason Spence got' he and his camp might protect the chance of suffering from a big loss.

Moving forward, the fight between Spence and Thurman is what we are going to expect to take place, even there's no belt
to risk, it's the name that is a matter between the two.
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February 21, 2023, 01:11:39 PM
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Therefore, the best thing to do for him is just to make sure he'll not fight Crawford and just look for opponents that he has a better chance of winning.

And that led Spence to fight Keith Thurman instead but the crazy thing here is, he will defend his 3 titles at 147 lbs at 154 weight division lol.

Maybe if Spence wins against Thurman, he needs to decide whether to continue at 154 or not. If he continues at 154, he should give up his titles at 146, and with that being said, it will be vacant and Crawford now has a chance to fight for a unification fight.

But with the way things are happening, looks like even the boxing council themselves like WBC don't want their baby boy Spence to be faced by Crawford.

Funny to think that even the organization is not willing to make this fight to happen, they are protecting Spence who really doing
his best in avoiding the negotiation against Crawford.

Like what you mentioned, instead of discussing the fight with Crawford, his camp and the organization push the fight against Thurman.

Not a title fight but still good as Thurman is not an easy opponent to beat up, Spence will be tested now if he can KO Thurman
with his speed and solid punches.
I already see this as unprofessional, if I were a professional boxer I wouldn't refuse to fight him as a challenge, that lends itself to thinking later that somehow I dodged it out of fear, a boxer can say that he didn't want to fight with them out of fear, it is very easy and more like the boxers of today, what they do is show off for themselves and they say they are the best, where the right thing to do is expect others to praise them, it doesn't matter Wherever they come from, what matters is that a fight can happen, but that's why so much with that fight, Spence must accept that fight with Crawford.

You have to understand as well that they signed a contract before hand, so they must follow it otherwise, they might get a lawsuit and when the moment it's over, Thurman's career might be over as well.

So as much as you call this unprofessional, this is the right move for them. PBC and Al Haymon are very powerful entities. If they go against their will, you don't know what's going to happen on your career.

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February 22, 2023, 12:17:39 PM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I think in another level means an elevated performance. He was expecting that both boxers will up their gameplay and perform better than before which I think is possible,  But one thing I am thinking if Thurman will do his best now that they are fighting in an upper-weight division without any title at stake.

You got a point there mate, but the thing is, I don't think that Errol Spence is willing to take a defeat this time against a boxer who just got back from a long lay-off. I mean, why would he not bring his usual energy? A defeat will certainly mean something for him directly as his name and value will depreciate for sure. Either way, yes, Keith Thurman really do stand a chance against the prime Spence but let's see how will he handle the situation.

Obviously, Errol Spence doesn't want his record to have a blemish, any boxer with a perfect record will always be wanted to preserve that, the only question is, if they have the capability.
We can take a look and compare the previous performances of these two boxers and it is clear that Errol Spence has the upper hand. Keith Thurman has no place as an opponent for Spence in this situation. But in terms of money, Thurman can match someone who is also popular and make a lot of money even if he losses. After this matchup, Thurman can quit his boxing career and live with his millions from boxing. Errol Spence would never permit Thurman to win. Spence will bring his high level game and will keep on advancing in order to eliminate Thurman, who has just returned from a lengthy absence.

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February 22, 2023, 09:20:26 PM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I believe the outcome of Thurman's last fight has no connection to why he is the underdog here. Even if he won impressively, he would remain an underdog since Spence is currently in his prime, undefeated, and ranked in the top 3 of the pound-for-pound rankings, if I'm not mistaken. And the fact that this fight is a non-title fight, I guess Thurman does have a decent chance, as Spence might not bring the energy he usually brings to a fight.

We based boxers on their last fight, of course it has no connection because Thurman will be the favorite. However, it might affect the way odds maker listing their odds. If Thurman knock out Barrios in his last fight and make a statement win, then maybe the odds will be closer or who knows, maybe Spence are not going to pursue him because of the risk. But after what we have seen of Thurman, maybe he will be a huge underdog in this fight, and that is due to his poor performance on his last fight.
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If we don't like what Spence is doing, then this upset would be the best revenge to teach him a lesson.
Well, whatever the controversies are and the speculation of the people, I just want to see a good fight between Thurman and Spence.

This is really a nice opportunity for Thurman to prove himself without a doubt when he gonna win against Spence. After all, it will gonna be who has the best strategy anyway. You can say Spence got all the skills and physicality to have the advantage in this fight but both of them can punch well. Also, Thurman has the ability that hooked Manny Pacquiao when it comes to his power punches. He just really needs to carefully study how will he gonna lands it on Spence with the right timing to win this fight.

I agree both have that power punch and if given a chance Thurman can upset Spence with those solid combinations. He almost beat
Pacquiao if it's not because of his early knock down.

I would like to see him being careful and analyze how Spence will throw his attack, give some jabs and try to avoid being hit by Spence
solid combination.

He needs to prepare and create good strategy to upset and hype his name up!

Well, there is no denying that Thurman's punching is great, and I remember well when that fight against the legendary Pacquiao, if we look at Thurman's technique is good, the combinations are formidable.Spence is very strong, one of the boxers who has a very good reputation and if Thurman manages to beat Spence it would be a feat, I would like that, but the chances of Thurman winning are low, that translates into a great bias for Spence.
Thurman wants to, and that's what moves him, very hungry to win and like all humans, he is anxious and nervous.

Whenever a fight with the great Pacquiao is compared, things can be analyzed from another point of view, it is much more attractive.


Yes, It can be a biased decision if the Thurman will not KO Spence as we know how the organization's favoring Spence,
Thurman can't win this one if decision will be judge.

I can see your point, and nothing can change that view, we should be happy though as the fight will take place even It isn't a title fight.

Good luck to all who will going to bet for them.




I would like to see a different result, although I would like Thurman to win, reason tells me that the one who will win here will be Spence, and even more so with all the help they get from the organization, for me personally if Thurman wins he has to do it in a forceful way, that there is no doubt about how it was done, the ideal would be a good knockout, but if that is not the case it would have to be in a very dramatic way, and if the fight is extended it is likely that Spence will take the advantage, because Spence is like those old dogs who know how to dominate and win at the last, I see that he has more experience, actually when it comes to betting I don't know what to bet on.




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At one point, Keith Thurman was undoubtedly recognized as not only the best welterweight in the world, but one of the best fighters around. But after being forced into the medical room far more than he would like, the now 34-year-old has made sporadic appearances. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

Since reaching the pinnacle of the welterweight mountain following back-to-back victories over Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia, Thurman reigned supreme as the division’s lone unified champion. However, while his rise was ultimately a dominant one, it was only transient.

After sitting for roughly two years, the Clearwater, Florida, native returned to the ring against Josesito Lopez in 2019, winning a majority decision. Thurman would then suffer the first defeat of his career at the hands of Manny Pacquiao a few months later.

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February 23, 2023, 04:47:40 AM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I believe the outcome of Thurman's last fight has no connection to why he is the underdog here. Even if he won impressively, he would remain an underdog since Spence is currently in his prime, undefeated, and ranked in the top 3 of the pound-for-pound rankings, if I'm not mistaken. And the fact that this fight is a non-title fight, I guess Thurman does have a decent chance, as Spence might not bring the energy he usually brings to a fight.

Yes, regardless if that Thurman fight, he will still be the underdog against Spence.

But I think the point is that Thurman didn't look good in his last fight, everyone expects him to have a statement win against a overblown 140 lbs in Barrios. Or maybe Barrios is just as tough as anyone in this division as he won his comeback fight.

Spence though need to bring his A-side against Thurman, as you have said, maybe Thurman doesn't look good against Barrios, but for sure the stakes is high in this fight and we might see him bring his best against a prime Spence.

That's right, beating Spence would put him at the top and open up a lot of opportunities for him. I believe Thurman has listened to the criticism about his last fight and will make sure to find a way to improve or win. Regardless of how he wins, as long as it's a clean win, he will enjoy a big success in boxing.

He already has experience losing a fight, so he has nothing to lose. He just needs to fight well, have a great game plan, and who knows, he could give Spence his first loss.

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February 23, 2023, 05:47:43 AM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I believe the outcome of Thurman's last fight has no connection to why he is the underdog here. Even if he won impressively, he would remain an underdog since Spence is currently in his prime, undefeated, and ranked in the top 3 of the pound-for-pound rankings, if I'm not mistaken. And the fact that this fight is a non-title fight, I guess Thurman does have a decent chance, as Spence might not bring the energy he usually brings to a fight.

Yes, regardless if that Thurman fight, he will still be the underdog against Spence.

But I think the point is that Thurman didn't look good in his last fight, everyone expects him to have a statement win against a overblown 140 lbs in Barrios. Or maybe Barrios is just as tough as anyone in this division as he won his comeback fight.

Spence though need to bring his A-side against Thurman, as you have said, maybe Thurman doesn't look good against Barrios, but for sure the stakes is high in this fight and we might see him bring his best against a prime Spence.

That's right, beating Spence would put him at the top and open up a lot of opportunities for him. I believe Thurman has listened to the criticism about his last fight and will make sure to find a way to improve or win. Regardless of how he wins, as long as it's a clean win, he will enjoy a big success in boxing.

He already has experience losing a fight, so he has nothing to lose. He just needs to fight well, have a great game plan, and who knows, he could give Spence his first loss.

Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.

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Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.
Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.
We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.

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Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.
Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.
Because the legend is already old and unable to sustain its attacks, the match with Pacquiao was close. However, the match of Thurman with Pacquiao was not even close to what we saw in the Mario Barrios match. Fans looked forward Thurman to knockout Mario Barrios, but he appeared unsure and scared during the fight.

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.
We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.
I will wager on a knockout victory for Errol Spence if the betting market is appealing. But Thurman can train hard 100%, so he can run the whole match to get away from Spence. I concur that prime Spence Jr is right now too much for Thurman.

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Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.
Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.
We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.
Yes manny pacman Pacquiao is a legend in the whole boxing industry and we all know that a 8 division champion of the world so without a doubt he can easily defeat big time boxer even if pacmans opponent is in the middle of his  prime career like what Thurman experienced but for this fight it's all new we can see a good and massive  fight during the the day and for sure many people want to see this and also this is one of the big event for this year.

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February 23, 2023, 04:43:53 PM
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Just like Lomachenko, he also preferred to have a safer bout rather than pursuing the fight and suffer the consequence later. I believe Keith Thurman had the same vision as that fight was just their comeback fight, not a huge comeback that we expected but I guess they are just taking their time to adjust from their inactivity. Their upcoming fight will determine if their comeback bout was already saying it all or not.
They are lucky to have this big comeback as the win here will surely put them on the top. Especially for Thurman who is not a champion anymore but still think he can go toe to toe against the champions in this division, no belts, it's quite unfair, but that's how it is, as long as Thurman wins, then he'll just thread what's next for him which I believe a very good future.
Some people say that Thurman is not anymore in his prime, but they failed to understand that Thurman only has one loss, though his last win isn't that convincing we have to base it on numbers. Thurman might have one loss but I'm sure he is proud of that loss as he was able to fight the one and only 8th division champion, it was an honor for him.

Now, this is the real fight, fans should not think Spence will have this fight easily win because I don't see that happening.



Well, Thurman in this case needs to win, yes, many things have been said about him, and there could have been a lot of speculation, it's normal, also in boxing that's a give and take, I've been looking for a lot of information about this fight , to see how the training of both has been, but there is little information in fact in the boxing forums they speculate a lot that whoever will win will be Spence, I don't know, I think that Spence has a lot of fame, reputation and that makes things flow and come to that conclusion.

Personally I would like Thurman to win to see how things would develop from then on, it would be nice to see that scenario.

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February 23, 2023, 05:11:02 PM
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I don't know what you mean by another level though, Thurman will be the underdog here because of his recent performance plus he will be fighting a prime Spence who is just beating everyone at 147 lbs.

Experience wise it will be Thurman as he has been longer in the game, however, he had a long lay off before, then losing to Manny.

So if there will be prediction here by the majority, I think they will go with Spence.

I think in another level means an elevated performance. He was expecting that both boxers will up their gameplay and perform better than before which I think is possible,  But one thing I am thinking if Thurman will do his best now that they are fighting in an upper-weight division without any title at stake.

You got a point there mate, but the thing is, I don't think that Errol Spence is willing to take a defeat this time against a boxer who just got back from a long lay-off. I mean, why would he not bring his usual energy? A defeat will certainly mean something for him directly as his name and value will depreciate for sure. Either way, yes, Keith Thurman really do stand a chance against the prime Spence but let's see how will he handle the situation.

Obviously, Errol Spence doesn't want his record to have a blemish, any boxer with a perfect record will always be wanted to preserve that, the only question is, if they have the capability.
We can take a look and compare the previous performances of these two boxers and it is clear that Errol Spence has the upper hand. Keith Thurman has no place as an opponent for Spence in this situation. But in terms of money, Thurman can match someone who is also popular and make a lot of money even if he losses. After this matchup, Thurman can quit his boxing career and live with his millions from boxing. Errol Spence would never permit Thurman to win. Spence will bring his high level game and will keep on advancing in order to eliminate Thurman, who has just returned from a lengthy absence.

Saying that Errol Spence Jr. has an upper hand in this fight is believable, but saying that Keith Thurman has no place to face Spence is quite a statement from you mate. Too early to say that because this is no Butler vs Inoue fight, and even in this fight that Thurman's chances is not that good, it is not yet guaranteed that chances will always prevail as we really don't know what will happen once these two boxers will share the ring. Anyway, I'm just saying that we never know for sure.

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February 23, 2023, 09:01:07 PM
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Yes, definitely he is in the media because after all he become a boxing analyst/commentator and he knows what those guys are saying, specially after he lost to Pacquiao and his recent performance against Mario Barrios.
Losing to Pacquiao is not a big deal in my opinion because Pacquiao is a legend and he is really good, despite his age at that time. There's nothing to be ashamed of, and besides, Pacquiao didn't dominate Thurman. It was a close fight, and Pacquiao was just lucky that Thurman didn't start to be aggressive after he got knocked down. In my opinion, the second half of the fight belonged to Thurman.

So in any case, it's either he will be inspired to proved his doubters wrong and motivate to beat Spence. Or he be 100% but still though that effort will not be enough to beat a prime Errol Spence Jr right now.
We don't know the outcome of the fight, but one thing is certain: he should train hard and give 100%, as a win could definitely change his life.
Yes manny pacman Pacquiao is a legend in the whole boxing industry and we all know that a 8 division champion of the world so without a doubt he can easily defeat big time boxer even if pacmans opponent is in the middle of his  prime career like what Thurman experienced but for this fight it's all new we can see a good and massive  fight during the the day and for sure many people want to see this and also this is one of the big event for this year.

This will be a big challenge for Thurman's side because if he failed to conquer a great boxer in the past who is already past his prime, how much more now because he is up against a great boxer who is still at the height of his prime. Now I know that Thurman is not that old because his age is not that far as he is just 2 years older from his foe, but it's just hard to disregard if it's already a fact. But we'll see, he still got a chance but it will be a forceful fight on his behalf as Spence is not an easy fighter.

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