Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman

[serjent05]

Yes, and what's funny is, everyone is talking about him beating Manny, because he has all the advantage and then the trash talk his way on that fight to the put that he really belittles the Legend. But look at what happen to him, he can't beat a past prime Pacquiao and even handed his ass down on the canvass? And then he went on this comeback fight a 140 lbs boxer that Gervonta Davis knock down several times, cut his face and beat him badly and score a tko in 11th. So what more can we ask for Thurman fighting a prime Spence? So we shouldn't be surprised if he get knock down again or even lost by ko/tko.

I think those trash talks are just for publicity to entice sports fan into watching their fight to see if Thurman can walk the talk.  As far as I know deep inside, Thurman has respect to Manny, and those words utter by Thurman is to heat up the match-up, which I think is successful because we are talking about it right (Thurman's bragging and bullying) now.

I also think that there is a huge possibility that Thurman will be kissing the canvas again in this fight.  His weakness had been exposed so it is possible that Spence will take advantage of it.

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[chaser15]

People are eagerly anticipating the upcoming Spence vs Thurman fight, which is one of the biggest fights of the year even though it's not a title fight.

I think it's not. People are not eager to watch Spence vs Thurman because that was a disappointment.

Spence vs. Crawford is the one that people want to watch. Another thing, if not against Crawford, Spence should defend his title at 148 but instead, he will fight at 154. Thurman can be a mandatory challenger too at 148 but in the end, they will fight at 154 with no title at stake.

How can people be interested in watching this match if that's pure nonsense?

[Baofeng]

People are eagerly anticipating the upcoming Spence vs Thurman fight, which is one of the biggest fights of the year even though it's not a title fight.

I think it's not. People are not eager to watch Spence vs Thurman because that was a disappointment.

Spence vs. Crawford is the one that people want to watch. Another thing, if not against Crawford, Spence should defend his title at 148 but instead, he will fight at 154. Thurman can be a mandatory challenger too at 148 but in the end, they will fight at 154 with no title at stake.

How can people be interested in watching this match if that's pure nonsense?

Definitely, the most anticipated fight that we want in this division is Spence vs Crawford. And now we have [Boxing]: Eimantas Stanionis vs Vergil Ortiz Jr - April 29, which is a true 147 lbs fight.

Then the David vs Garcia and Haney vs Loma, I think this is the fight that boxing fans are willing to pay to watch live and in PPV. This fight is just for Spence to move on because of the failed fight with Crawford and then picking as somewhat a still good boxer in Thurman but no belt on the line. So in cases he lost, he can go back to 147 and defend his belt. Very wise decision on the side of Spence, and too bad that Thurman want's to be his dance partner.

[goinmerry]

So in cases he lost, he can go back to 147 and defend his belt. Very wise decision on the side of Spence, and too bad that Thurman want's to be his dance partner.

That's the reason why people will want to watch the fight, to see Spence losing the match against Thurman.

I want that to happen and will wait what will be his next plans after he loses.

Although technically, I don't see how Thurman will win against Spence but I hope so.

[Pamadar]

So in cases he lost, he can go back to 147 and defend his belt. Very wise decision on the side of Spence, and too bad that Thurman want's to be his dance partner.

That's the reason why people will want to watch the fight, to see Spence losing the match against Thurman.

I want that to happen and will wait what will be his next plans after he loses.

Although technically, I don't see how Thurman will win against Spence but I hope so.

Fans who got disappointed with how Spence handles the negotiations between him and Crawford will surely take sides with Thurman. People who are not satisfied with the way Spence avoids that possible fight will aim for Thurman.

It's nice to see an upset even there's no belt that being risked here. There are always fame and career hypes
that can happen if Thurman will win against Spence.

[yazher]

Fans who got disappointed with how Spence handles the negotiations between him and Crawford will surely take sides with Thurman. People who are not satisfied with the way Spence avoids that possible fight will aim for Thurman.

It's nice to see an upset even there's no belt that being risked here. There are always fame and career hypes
that can happen if Thurman will win against Spence.

I'm rooting for Thurman too and I'm sure he has a high chance of beating Spence compared to his past opponents because Thurman has fought Manny Pacquiao and that experience alone gives him skills on how to effectively perform next in his fight. Spence has been avoiding potential opponents that can actually beat him and not doing all he can and his management to get him the honor and merits he should have because all they want is obviously just money and they will gonna avoid huge risks so that they can preserve his clean record and to boast about it.

[Getmon]

Yes, and what's funny is, everyone is talking about him beating Manny, because he has all the advantage and then the trash talk his way on that fight to the put that he really belittles the Legend. But look at what happen to him, he can't beat a past prime Pacquiao and even handed his ass down on the canvass? And then he went on this comeback fight a 140 lbs boxer that Gervonta Davis knock down several times, cut his face and beat him badly and score a tko in 11th. So what more can we ask for Thurman fighting a prime Spence? So we shouldn't be surprised if he get knock down again or even lost by ko/tko.

I think those trash talks are just for publicity to entice sports fan into watching their fight to see if Thurman can walk the talk.  As far as I know deep inside, Thurman has respect to Manny, and those words utter by Thurman is to heat up the match-up, which I think is successful because we are talking about it right (Thurman's bragging and bullying) now.

I also think that there is a huge possibility that Thurman will be kissing the canvas again in this fight.  His weakness had been exposed so it is possible that Spence will take advantage of it.

In boxing, there are casual trash talks that are common. However, Thurman made an effort for his trashtalks to become personal. In order to distract Pacquiao, he attempted to get under his skin but failed deliberately.

Errol Spence will force Keith Thurman to kiss the canvas. Thurman was down by the body punch of Pacquiao and Spence is more well known for working on the bodies of his opponents. By TKO, Thurman will lose.

[Questat]

In boxing, there are casual trash talks that are common. However, Thurman made an effort for his trashtalks to become personal. In order to distract Pacquiao, he attempted to get under his skin but failed deliberately.

Errol Spence will force Keith Thurman to kiss the canvas. Thurman was down by the body punch of Pacquiao and Spence is more well known for working on the bodies of his opponents. By TKO, Thurman will lose.

They have their own strategy, and I believe what Thurman did to Pacman, which is trash-talking, is not to distract him but to gain the attention of the fans and market their upcoming fight. Pacman will not be affected by any trash talk, as he has been in boxing for more than a decade already, so it's not new to him.

[Oasisman]

In boxing, there are casual trash talks that are common. However, Thurman made an effort for his trashtalks to become personal. In order to distract Pacquiao, he attempted to get under his skin but failed deliberately.

Errol Spence will force Keith Thurman to kiss the canvas. Thurman was down by the body punch of Pacquiao and Spence is more well known for working on the bodies of his opponents. By TKO, Thurman will lose.

Well, I'm not sure if you knew that trash talks won't technically work for Pacman. First, because trash talks in American language has lesser impact for the Filipinos because there's a bit of a language barrier between these two. Though Pacman understands english but the way it's delivered, it has lesser impact than trash talking in a Filipino language.
Second, it will never gonna work since Rios and Margarito had way way worst trash talking than Thurman did. We all knew what happened so...

I highly doubt this will end in a TKO. Spence as we all know, won't gonna fight like he's underestimating his opponent. I kinda have the feeling that Thurman is still capable of giving us a good fight against Spence.

[freedomgo]

Thurman ducked Spence for years when he was the champion and they were both under Al Haymon.

Thurman has always been scared of Spence and knows he'll got KO'ed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Spence stops him out easily if they ever fight.

We cannot really confirm that whether if it is true or not, those are just speculations made in the past and up until now.

Besides, we cannot really blame Thurman if he didn't gave Spence a chance for a title shot few years back because back at the day, welterweight is still a pretty stacked-up division. You got names like Pacquiao and Mayweather on the same division, while Spence at that time was still a hotshot haven't got a chance because a fight with him is not profitable. You know that boxing is always business first.

[stadus]

In boxing, there are casual trash talks that are common. However, Thurman made an effort for his trashtalks to become personal. In order to distract Pacquiao, he attempted to get under his skin but failed deliberately.

Errol Spence will force Keith Thurman to kiss the canvas. Thurman was down by the body punch of Pacquiao and Spence is more well known for working on the bodies of his opponents. By TKO, Thurman will lose.

They have their own strategy, and I believe what Thurman did to Pacman, which is trash-talking, is not to distract him but to gain the attention of the fans and market their upcoming fight. Pacman will not be affected by any trash talk, as he has been in boxing for more than a decade already, so it's not new to him.

I guess it's both because I also remember that Thurman somehow underestimated Pacquiao and thought that a trashtalk will somehow give some troubles to the latter but it didn't worked as Thurman was the one who kissed the canvass in the early rounds of their fight whereas he was the one who had the ultimate motive to do the same.

Back on the fight, I know that Thurman is thirsty and hungry to get a title and be a champion once again but this journey won't be that easy because Spence got a strong body punch that could probably also crack Thurman in the early rounds. He should watch out for that though as it's expected that Spence won't go easy on him as this is a bit personal for him because of what happened few years back.

[btc_angela]

Thurman ducked Spence for years when he was the champion and they were both under Al Haymon.

Thurman has always been scared of Spence and knows he'll got KO'ed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Spence stops him out easily if they ever fight.

We cannot really confirm that whether if it is true or not, those are just speculations made in the past and up until now.

Besides, we cannot really blame Thurman if he didn't gave Spence a chance for a title shot few years back because back at the day, welterweight is still a pretty stacked-up division. You got names like Pacquiao and Mayweather on the same division, while Spence at that time was still a hotshot haven't got a chance because a fight with him is not profitable. You know that boxing is always business first.

Yes, and on the other hand, there are reports saying that Spence duck Thurman when he become a champion. So we really don't know who duck who during Thurman's prime and reign as 147 lbs. They are still both under Al Haymon, but we all know that Spence is now the A-side in that stable.

But now we will have a chance to see it, maybe it was 2-3 years late though, as Thurman got injured and then he fight Manny because that is the biggest paycheck for him.

[Getmon]

In boxing, there are casual trash talks that are common. However, Thurman made an effort for his trashtalks to become personal. In order to distract Pacquiao, he attempted to get under his skin but failed deliberately.

Errol Spence will force Keith Thurman to kiss the canvas. Thurman was down by the body punch of Pacquiao and Spence is more well known for working on the bodies of his opponents. By TKO, Thurman will lose.

They have their own strategy, and I believe what Thurman did to Pacman, which is trash-talking, is not to distract him but to gain the attention of the fans and market their upcoming fight. Pacman will not be affected by any trash talk, as he has been in boxing for more than a decade already, so it's not new to him.

I guess it's both because I also remember that Thurman somehow underestimated Pacquiao and thought that a trashtalk will somehow give some troubles to the latter but it didn't worked as Thurman was the one who kissed the canvass in the early rounds of their fight whereas he was the one who had the ultimate motive to do the same.

Back on the fight, I know that Thurman is thirsty and hungry to get a title and be a champion once again but this journey won't be that easy because Spence got a strong body punch that could probably also crack Thurman in the early rounds. He should watch out for that though as it's expected that Spence won't go easy on him as this is a bit personal for him because of what happened few years back.

Thurman was barking at the wrong person. Additionally, Pacquiao, who does not speak English fluently, was only laughing because of the language barrier. Adrien Broner just laughed maybe because of the language barrier too. Broner thought Pacquiao would laugh at his trash talks instead of benefit from them.

I and MiliMil have the same opinion about this match. Errol Spence has a straightforward victory here. The corner of Thurman will stop it or the referee will. But I do not think it is true that Thurman avoided Spence for a long time. Thurman clearly desired the well-known names. The target was Mayweather and the other champions.

[Kemarit]

In boxing, there are casual trash talks that are common. However, Thurman made an effort for his trashtalks to become personal. In order to distract Pacquiao, he attempted to get under his skin but failed deliberately.

Errol Spence will force Keith Thurman to kiss the canvas. Thurman was down by the body punch of Pacquiao and Spence is more well known for working on the bodies of his opponents. By TKO, Thurman will lose.

They have their own strategy, and I believe what Thurman did to Pacman, which is trash-talking, is not to distract him but to gain the attention of the fans and market their upcoming fight. Pacman will not be affected by any trash talk, as he has been in boxing for more than a decade already, so it's not new to him.

I guess it's both because I also remember that Thurman somehow underestimated Pacquiao and thought that a trashtalk will somehow give some troubles to the latter but it didn't worked as Thurman was the one who kissed the canvass in the early rounds of their fight whereas he was the one who had the ultimate motive to do the same.

Back on the fight, I know that Thurman is thirsty and hungry to get a title and be a champion once again but this journey won't be that easy because Spence got a strong body punch that could probably also crack Thurman in the early rounds. He should watch out for that though as it's expected that Spence won't go easy on him as this is a bit personal for him because of what happened few years back.

Thurman was barking at the wrong person. Additionally, Pacquiao, who does not speak English fluently, was only laughing because of the language barrier. Adrien Broner just laughed maybe because of the language barrier too. Broner thought Pacquiao would laugh at his trash talks instead of benefit from them.

I and MiliMil have the same opinion about this match. Errol Spence has a straightforward victory here. The corner of Thurman will stop it or the referee will. But I do not think it is true that Thurman avoided Spence for a long time. Thurman clearly desired the well-known names. The target was Mayweather and the other champions.

Yes, I do believed that although Manny understand English, he has in no shape or form wanted to get back at all the trash talking that either Broner and Thurman throws. So their trash talking is not that effective.

But for this fight, two Americans will obviously throws everything, make a lot of noise in the media and probably Thurman telling that Spence has avoided him for years and yada yada trash talk. And most likely Spence will make a field day cracking at how Thurman lost to the old Manny.

[carlisle1]

Thurman ducked Spence for years when he was the champion and they were both under Al Haymon.

Thurman has always been scared of Spence and knows he'll got KO'ed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Spence stops him out easily if they ever fight.

We cannot really confirm that whether if it is true or not, those are just speculations made in the past and up until now.

Besides, we cannot really blame Thurman if he didn't gave Spence a chance for a title shot few years back because back at the day, welterweight is still a pretty stacked-up division. You got names like Pacquiao and Mayweather on the same division, while Spence at that time was still a hotshot haven't got a chance because a fight with him is not profitable. You know that boxing is always business first.

Yes, and on the other hand, there are reports saying that Spence duck Thurman when he become a champion. So we really don't know who duck who during Thurman's prime and reign as 147 lbs. They are still both under Al Haymon, but we all know that Spence is now the A-side in that stable.

But now we will have a chance to see it, maybe it was 2-3 years late though, as Thurman got injured and then he fight Manny because that is the biggest paycheck for him.

The biggest paycheck but also the reason why he moves away for a while in this sport, that lost against Pacquiao is, surely
the one that he will never forget.

A prime Thurman against the aging Pacquiao with those trash talks that backfire on him, who will forget about that right?

But moving forward, it will be another shot for him, even there's no title but the career enhancement if Thurman successfully
upset Spence here.

[Ziskinberg]

The biggest paycheck but also the reason why he moves away for a while in this sport, that lost against Pacquiao is, surely
the one that he will never forget.

That's Pacman challenging a younger champion. Of course, no champion would say no to that opportunity as they fight a hall of famer once in their boxing career. Yes, he lost but it's not an embarrassing loss as he really fought hard and gave the judges a difficult task in their job.

A prime Thurman against the aging Pacquiao with those trash talks that backfire on him, who will forget about that right?

We will always remember that, but we have to understand that it's just part of the game. Trash-talking is normal these days and it makes the fight interesting to watch.

But moving forward, it will be another shot for him, even there's no title but the career enhancement if Thurman successfully
upset Spence here.

He should not waste this opportunity, I don't have much to say as I believe that Thurman understands how big the stake here.

[inthelongrun]

People are eagerly anticipating the upcoming Spence vs Thurman fight, which is one of the biggest fights of the year even though it's not a title fight.

I think it's not. People are not eager to watch Spence vs Thurman because that was a disappointment.

Spence vs. Crawford is the one that people want to watch. Another thing, if not against Crawford, Spence should defend his title at 148 but instead, he will fight at 154. Thurman can be a mandatory challenger too at 148 but in the end, they will fight at 154 with no title at stake.

How can people be interested in watching this match if that's pure nonsense?

Definitely, the most anticipated fight that we want in this division is Spence vs Crawford. And now we have [Boxing]: Eimantas Stanionis vs Vergil Ortiz Jr - April 29, which is a true 147 lbs fight.

Then the David vs Garcia and Haney vs Loma, I think this is the fight that boxing fans are willing to pay to watch live and in PPV. This fight is just for Spence to move on because of the failed fight with Crawford and then picking as somewhat a still good boxer in Thurman but no belt on the line. So in cases he lost, he can go back to 147 and defend his belt. Very wise decision on the side of Spence, and too bad that Thurman want's to be his dance partner.

For me, this fight is a disappointment as well and it has gotten worse after Spence wanted the fight in the higher division and the lame WBC allowed it. But I believe this fight is still big. Maybe a minimum of 400k PPV buys but I hope I am wrong and people should realize that this is a nonsense fight. But this is all about business. If novices Jake Paul and Tommy Fury were able to stage a big fight then most likely many fans will also watch Spence and Thurman as both are the most popular in this division right now. Most PPV buyers anyways are casuals since there is only a handful of boxing hardcore who knew the real situations.

[chaser15]

For me, this fight is a disappointment as well and it has gotten worse after Spence wanted the fight in the higher division and the lame WBC allowed it. But I believe this fight is still big. Maybe a minimum of 400k PPV buys but I hope I am wrong and people should realize that this is a nonsense fight. But this is all about business.

A wise move though that if let's say Errol Spence Jr. loses this 154 lbs non-title fight, he can go back to 147, still as a champion. This might also be the reason to now considered facing Terence Crawford as moving up won't be an option now for Spence as he can't even handle the likes of Keith Thurman that isn't considered a big threat now. The fight against Thurman and Crawford can possibly be organized this year if the original plan will follow.

Unfortunately, what I did say is just valid if Keith Thurman will really beat Errol Spence Jr. as in every aspect, Spence beats Thurman. Even if I'm not backing Spence to win, it's clear to anyone that Thurman doesn't have the edge in beating Spence.

Upsets do happen though but not expecting that thing to happen in this match.

[Pamadar]

For me, this fight is a disappointment as well and it has gotten worse after Spence wanted the fight in the higher division and the lame WBC allowed it. But I believe this fight is still big. Maybe a minimum of 400k PPV buys but I hope I am wrong and people should realize that this is a nonsense fight. But this is all about business.

A wise move though that if let's say Errol Spence Jr. loses this 154 lbs non-title fight, he can go back to 147, still as a champion. This might also be the reason to now considered facing Terence Crawford as moving up won't be an option now for Spence as he can't even handle the likes of Keith Thurman that isn't considered a big threat now. The fight against Thurman and Crawford can possibly be organized this year if the original plan will follow.

Unfortunately, what I did say is just valid if Keith Thurman will really beat Errol Spence Jr. as in every aspect, Spence beats Thurman. Even if I'm not backing Spence to win, it's clear to anyone that Thurman doesn't have the edge in beating Spence.

Upsets do happen though but not expecting that thing to happen in this match.

I like that idea of beating Spence, then proceed and chase for Crawford as the other champ is always willing to take the big challenge and prove that he deserves every belt that he got.

Let see if upset will take place and how the boxing community will push for Thurman vs Crawford instead of
waiting for a miracle for Spence to face Crawford. Another chapter only if upset will take place and Thurman
will be aggressive to push forward.

[Shamm]

In boxing, there are casual trash talks that are common. However, Thurman made an effort for his trashtalks to become personal. In order to distract Pacquiao, he attempted to get under his skin but failed deliberately.

Errol Spence will force Keith Thurman to kiss the canvas. Thurman was down by the body punch of Pacquiao and Spence is more well known for working on the bodies of his opponents. By TKO, Thurman will lose.

They have their own strategy, and I believe what Thurman did to Pacman, which is trash-talking, is not to distract him but to gain the attention of the fans and market their upcoming fight. Pacman will not be affected by any trash talk, as he has been in boxing for more than a decade already, so it's not new to him.

I guess it's both because I also remember that Thurman somehow underestimated Pacquiao and thought that a trashtalk will somehow give some troubles to the latter but it didn't worked as Thurman was the one who kissed the canvass in the early rounds of their fight whereas he was the one who had the ultimate motive to do the same.

Back on the fight, I know that Thurman is thirsty and hungry to get a title and be a champion once again but this journey won't be that easy because Spence got a strong body punch that could probably also crack Thurman in the early rounds. He should watch out for that though as it's expected that Spence won't go easy on him as this is a bit personal for him because of what happened few years back.

Thurman was barking at the wrong person. Additionally, Pacquiao, who does not speak English fluently, was only laughing because of the language barrier. Adrien Broner just laughed maybe because of the language barrier too. Broner thought Pacquiao would laugh at his trash talks instead of benefit from them.

I and MiliMil have the same opinion about this match. Errol Spence has a straightforward victory here. The corner of Thurman will stop it or the referee will. But I do not think it is true that Thurman avoided Spence for a long time. Thurman clearly desired the well-known names. The target was Mayweather and the other champions.

  It seems that Thurman's way of destruction of his opponent did not work on manny pacman pacquiao cause we can see that thurman feel the pain when pacaman going to hit him.
A silence fighters are very dangerous inside the ring and most of them are good in offense like pacman, inoue, magsayo and many more silence fighters who release thier anger inside the ring and not on way of trash talk. And also bronerthe same as thurman.