Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman

[DevilSlayer]

Both will be on the side where only pride is at stake, nothing to lose for Spence aside from the fact that if Thurman will make an upset
it will give him the chance to negotiate with a money and title fight.

Thurman is the one who got nothing more to lose because his career is now on the point that if he will get defeated again, then it's time for him to hang his gloves up. It might be early for his age but there's nothing he can do because if he will continue his career, he will become a trophy for someone else's career and a stepping stone for that same someone to have good fights in the future.
But for Spence, he got everything to lose here and he might not have his belts at stake but his value and reputation are on the line because a defeat from Thurman will seriously decline his value and he will have his first defeat in his career. Furthermore, the governing bodies will probably make him as an example so that they don't have to take the blame anymore and will likely arrange a fight with Crawford or Boots Ennis to clean their names from being affiliated with Spence and Al Haymon.

It's correct, Thurman has nothing to lose and everything to gain if he pulls one of the biggest upset of the year. Although there is no belt in the line, but having your first career lost? Spence might not take it mentally.

So still a big fight for Spence here and he shouldn't underestimate Thurman. Yes he doesn't look good in his last fight. But if Spence will not train hard here, maybe it's going to be a difficult fight for him.

Errol Spence is currently the No. 4 pound for pound boxers in the world while thurman is in 36th Spot, In this way we are already sure who has the upper hand in this boxing match. Errol Spence is currently undefeated and he is the Prince of the WelterWeight Division where the King is still Crawford. His jab combination is so powerful plus his uppercuts and head movements. Thurman is also good in boxing and his only 1 lost is against Manny Pacquiao. In terms of reach Errol has upperhand with a reach of 183 cm while Thurman only has reach of 177 cm. For those who says it doesn't matter, all I can say is it really matters and analysts are taking notes regarding about it. It will be a difficult fight for thurman so the probability of Errol Spence winning the match is very high.

[carlisle1]

Both will be on the side where only pride is at stake, nothing to lose for Spence aside from the fact that if Thurman will make an upset
it will give him the chance to negotiate with a money and title fight.

Thurman is the one who got nothing more to lose because his career is now on the point that if he will get defeated again, then it's time for him to hang his gloves up. It might be early for his age but there's nothing he can do because if he will continue his career, he will become a trophy for someone else's career and a stepping stone for that same someone to have good fights in the future.
But for Spence, he got everything to lose here and he might not have his belts at stake but his value and reputation are on the line because a defeat from Thurman will seriously decline his value and he will have his first defeat in his career. Furthermore, the governing bodies will probably make him as an example so that they don't have to take the blame anymore and will likely arrange a fight with Crawford or Boots Ennis to clean their names from being affiliated with Spence and Al Haymon.

It's correct, Thurman has nothing to lose and everything to gain if he pulls one of the biggest upset of the year. Although there is no belt in the line, but having your first career lost? Spence might not take it mentally.

So still a big fight for Spence here and he shouldn't underestimate Thurman. Yes he doesn't look good in his last fight. But if Spence will not train hard here, maybe it's going to be a difficult fight for him.

Errol Spence is currently the No. 4 pound for pound boxers in the world while thurman is in 36th Spot, In this way we are already sure who has the upper hand in this boxing match. Errol Spence is currently undefeated and he is the Prince of the WelterWeight Division where the King is still Crawford. His jab combination is so powerful plus his uppercuts and head movements. Thurman is also good in boxing and his only 1 lost is against Manny Pacquiao. In terms of reach Errol has upperhand with a reach of 183 cm while Thurman only has reach of 177 cm. For those who says it doesn't matter, all I can say is it really matters and analysts are taking notes regarding about it. It will be a difficult fight for thurman so the probability of Errol Spence winning the match is very high.

Yeah, that matters in terms of edge. Spence has an upper hand here aside from being bookies favorites. His reach will give him
that advantage  to throw solid combinations and leave Thurman to kiss the floor.

Everything will be settled when the two are already inside the ring. For now, we can only assume and provide our own different opinions, either
according to stats or on our own perceptions.

Just need to put our money to the fighter we believe and trust!

[stadus]

Thurman is the one who got nothing more to lose because his career is now on the point that if he will get defeated again, then it's time for him to hang his gloves up. It might be early for his age but there's nothing he can do because if he will continue his career, he will become a trophy for someone else's career and a stepping stone for that same someone to have good fights in the future.
But for Spence, he got everything to lose here and he might not have his belts at stake but his value and reputation are on the line because a defeat from Thurman will seriously decline his value and he will have his first defeat in his career. Furthermore, the governing bodies will probably make him as an example so that they don't have to take the blame anymore and will likely arrange a fight with Crawford or Boots Ennis to clean their names from being affiliated with Spence and Al Haymon.

Comparing those things that both boxers will have if they lose, it's correct that Spence will have the most impact on his career. Losing Thurman, not just it's an embarrassing loss but it would be clear to us that he won't have a chance to win at Crawford at 148.

Let's face it though that Spence has the upper edge on this fight and probably would be easy to win against the current Thurman.

Well, yes, that is the reality right now. Spence got more advantage in this fight compared to Thurman and just like the advantages, Spence also have more to lose in this fight if ever an upset will happen but basing on the odds and chances, people are surely rooting for the latter but they also cannot deny that his chances are not that strong compared to Spence who's still in his prime.

The much higher purse split share can also not be demanded now by the Spence camp if they intend to negotiate with Crawford again. The mega bout has a chance to happen now although if Spence loses on Thurman but I can't consider fighting against Crawford still can be considered a mega bout.

Not really mate, why would that happen? Spence and Al Haymon still have the aces on their sleeves because Spence still got 3 belts in his possession even if he will be defeated by Thurman, that means they still have the right to demand compared to Crawford who just have 1 belt.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Both will be on the side where only pride is at stake, nothing to lose for Spence aside from the fact that if Thurman will make an upset
it will give him the chance to negotiate with a money and title fight.

Thurman is the one who got nothing more to lose because his career is now on the point that if he will get defeated again, then it's time for him to hang his gloves up. It might be early for his age but there's nothing he can do because if he will continue his career, he will become a trophy for someone else's career and a stepping stone for that same someone to have good fights in the future.
But for Spence, he got everything to lose here and he might not have his belts at stake but his value and reputation are on the line because a defeat from Thurman will seriously decline his value and he will have his first defeat in his career. Furthermore, the governing bodies will probably make him as an example so that they don't have to take the blame anymore and will likely arrange a fight with Crawford or Boots Ennis to clean their names from being affiliated with Spence and Al Haymon.

It's correct, Thurman has nothing to lose and everything to gain if he pulls one of the biggest upset of the year. Although there is no belt in the line, but having your first career lost? Spence might not take it mentally.

So still a big fight for Spence here and he shouldn't underestimate Thurman. Yes he doesn't look good in his last fight. But if Spence will not train hard here, maybe it's going to be a difficult fight for him.

Errol Spence is currently the No. 4 pound for pound boxers in the world while thurman is in 36th Spot, In this way we are already sure who has the upper hand in this boxing match. Errol Spence is currently undefeated and he is the Prince of the WelterWeight Division where the King is still Crawford. His jab combination is so powerful plus his uppercuts and head movements. Thurman is also good in boxing and his only 1 lost is against Manny Pacquiao. In terms of reach Errol has upperhand with a reach of 183 cm while Thurman only has reach of 177 cm. For those who says it doesn't matter, all I can say is it really matters and analysts are taking notes regarding about it. It will be a difficult fight for thurman so the probability of Errol Spence winning the match is very high.

We might have our list of pound for pound and I could put Spence lower or higher. My point is that that list might not be relevant in this fight, maybe it will if Thurman is also on that list but we all know that he is way below as he is inactive for several years now.

As for the tale of the tape, like the reach, still small difference as well to me, and there are so many factors to look at, just what you have pointed, their past performance and the level of opponents.

[LUCKMCFLY]

A prime Spence with speed and a power punch combination, it's a tough opponent to beat,
that last look at how Spence played with Ugas. That is something that Thurman needs to
work and analyze on how to counter and how to beat.

Ugas is just a one-dimensional fighter. He doesn't have the quickness, which is why he relies too much on his length. But Spence was able to make the right strategy to beat him, and that's why Ugas looked like an amateur in that fight. In my opinion, it will not happen to Thurman. I believe if Thurman loses, it will be a close fight and most likely will go to the judges' scorecards.

Well let's remember that Ugas beat a Pacquiao who is considered a legend, and well, at the end I consider that he is a bixeador who does have a level, however now as you say, the Spence thing is something else, I do see that Spence has a better lineup, but I am one of those who believe that good training can make it possible to win a legend.

At an athletic level I don't see Thurman as bad, he is a boxer who has good resistance, and it could be that he will give great results if he concentrates and can determine the rhythm that Spence sets, for me he will be the one who sets the pace of the fight.


and more more:

Erickson Lubin Open To Errol Spence Showdown: "I Think It’s A Great Fight"

Although it’s been years since Keith Thurman openly ignored the perpetual call-outs of a young up-and-coming Errol Spence Jr., the current unified champion at 147 pounds is still holding a grudge. 

Still, even with the 32-year-old claiming on countless occasions that he would never share the ring with his longtime rival, he appears to be on the verge of doing so anyways. As previously reported by BoxingScene.com, the two are likely to square off above the welterweight limit. While it’s yet to be revealed if their showdown will take place in the junior middleweight division, Erickson Lubin is hoping that both men will ultimately infiltrate his stomping grounds.

“If they here, that’s good news to me,” said Lubin to BoxingScene.com. “We got more killers in the weight class.”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/erickson-lubin-open-errol-spence-showdown-i-think-its-great-fight--172863

[Getmon]

and more more:

Erickson Lubin Open To Errol Spence Showdown: "I Think It’s A Great Fight"

Although it’s been years since Keith Thurman openly ignored the perpetual call-outs of a young up-and-coming Errol Spence Jr., the current unified champion at 147 pounds is still holding a grudge. 

Still, even with the 32-year-old claiming on countless occasions that he would never share the ring with his longtime rival, he appears to be on the verge of doing so anyways. As previously reported by BoxingScene.com, the two are likely to square off above the welterweight limit. While it’s yet to be revealed if their showdown will take place in the junior middleweight division, Erickson Lubin is hoping that both men will ultimately infiltrate his stomping grounds.

“If they here, that’s good news to me,” said Lubin to BoxingScene.com. “We got more killers in the weight class.”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/erickson-lubin-open-errol-spence-showdown-i-think-its-great-fight--172863

Before discussing Keith Thurman and Errol Spence, Erikson Lubin ought to resume his winning ways. Since his defeat to Sebastian Fundora, who is extremely tall but durable, last year, he has not competed. Lubin is a good boxer who has the potential to win, but he was unlucky against Jermell Charlo and Sebastian Fundora. He might already be a damaged boxer. However, even if he is fortunate enough to become the dance partner of Thurman or Spence, I like to see him return to action and make amends for his last defeat.

[Ziskinberg]

We should set aside Erickson Lubin's challenge for now, and focus on making this fight happen first to see what the outcome will be. It's a big fight, and Thurman is definitely facing the biggest challenge of his career (after Pacman). If he loses here, it will be his second loss and it won't bode well for his career. Therefore, I expect him to be very well-prepared, as we all know how formidable Spence is in the ring.

[btc_angela]

We should set aside Erickson Lubin's challenge for now, and focus on making this fight happen first to see what the outcome will be. It's a big fight, and Thurman is definitely facing the biggest challenge of his career (after Pacman). If he loses here, it will be his second loss and it won't bode well for his career. Therefore, I expect him to be very well-prepared, as we all know how formidable Spence is in the ring.

Everyone is going to call Spence, and who is Erickson Lubin by the way? he hasn't make any names for himself and I doubt that he will be given the chance to be the next one to face either fighter.

There are still other fights in this division, [Boxing]: Eimantas Stanionis vs Vergil Ortiz Jr - April 29 . But didn't get the love or attention right now because there names doesn't ring a bell. Stanionis has the regular WBA welterweight belt, FYI.

And we can only speculate that the winner of that fight will be mandated to fight Spence at 147 lbs and not 154 lbs.

[LUCKMCFLY]

In boxing, there are casual trash talks that are common. However, Thurman made an effort for his trashtalks to become personal. In order to distract Pacquiao, he attempted to get under his skin but failed deliberately.

Errol Spence will force Keith Thurman to kiss the canvas. Thurman was down by the body punch of Pacquiao and Spence is more well known for working on the bodies of his opponents. By TKO, Thurman will lose.

Well, I'm not sure if you knew that trash talks won't technically work for Pacman. First, because trash talks in American language has lesser impact for the Filipinos because there's a bit of a language barrier between these two. Though Pacman understands english but the way it's delivered, it has lesser impact than trash talking in a Filipino language.
Second, it will never gonna work since Rios and Margarito had way way worst trash talking than Thurman did. We all knew what happened so...

I highly doubt this will end in a TKO. Spence as we all know, won't gonna fight like he's underestimating his opponent. I kinda have the feeling that Thurman is still capable of giving us a good fight against Spence.

And I am also one of the believers that Thurman can do things well and beat Spence, however when we try to see the possibilities they are very biased towards Spence, I think it is fame that makes Spence like that and has that acceptance in most fans. The impact that Spence has creates much more traffic or demand in the fights, because that makes Thurman quite successful in his fight, clearly successful in the sense that he will have many spectators, in fact what matters is that there be a very broad business model.

De La Hoya: I’m Telling Crawford, ‘Let Me Help You In Making The Errol Spence Fight Happen’

NEW YORK – If Terence Crawford would allow Oscar De La Hoya to promote him, “The Golden Boy” is confident he can help put together another megafight with Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions.

De La Hoya informed a group of reporters Wednesday that he has urged Crawford to let him handle negotiations for the most meaningful fight that can be made for Crawford – his seemingly ill-fated showdown with Errol Spence Jr. Crawford and De La Hoya have discussed doing business together in recent months in part because one of the welterweight contenders Golden Boy Promotions represents, Alexis Rocha, is the mandatory challenger for Crawford’s WBO 147-pound championship.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-im-telling-crawford-let-me-help-you-making-errol-spence-fight-happen--172990

[lionheart78]

And I am also one of the believers that Thurman can do things well and beat Spence, however when we try to see the possibilities they are very biased towards Spence, I think it is fame that makes Spence like that and has that acceptance in most fans. The impact that Spence has creates much more traffic or demand in the fights, because that makes Thurman quite successful in his fight, clearly successful in the sense that he will have many spectators, in fact what matters is that there be a very broad business model.

Maybe before Thurman fight Pacquiao.  Manny as we all know had exposed Thurman's weakness.  It might be hard for Thurman to fight Spence if Spence capitalized on his weakness.  Plus the fact that kind of weakness is pretty much hard to patch or fix.  Strengthening the body to resist punches is somehow difficult but of course not impossible.  But Spence with 22 KO out of 28 fights proves that he is a heavy puncher and probably hits harder than Manny.

De La Hoya: I’m Telling Crawford, ‘Let Me Help You In Making The Errol Spence Fight Happen’

[img width =5-]https://i.imgur.com/j3JLNsF.png[/img]

NEW YORK – If Terence Crawford would allow Oscar De La Hoya to promote him, “The Golden Boy” is confident he can help put together another megafight with Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions.

De La Hoya informed a group of reporters Wednesday that he has urged Crawford to let him handle negotiations for the most meaningful fight that can be made for Crawford – his seemingly ill-fated showdown with Errol Spence Jr. Crawford and De La Hoya have discussed doing business together in recent months in part because one of the welterweight contenders Golden Boy Promotions represents, Alexis Rocha, is the mandatory challenger for Crawford’s WBO 147-pound championship.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-im-telling-crawford-let-me-help-you-making-errol-spence-fight-happen--172990

This is good to know that Crawford with the help of Dela Hoya has a higher chance of getting a deal with Spence.  Hopefully, Dela Hoya is successful in negotiating and get a deal.

[freedomgo]

We should set aside Erickson Lubin's challenge for now, and focus on making this fight happen first to see what the outcome will be. It's a big fight, and Thurman is definitely facing the biggest challenge of his career (after Pacman). If he loses here, it will be his second loss and it won't bode well for his career. Therefore, I expect him to be very well-prepared, as we all know how formidable Spence is in the ring.

Everyone is going to call Spence, and who is Erickson Lubin by the way? he hasn't make any names for himself and I doubt that he will be given the chance to be the next one to face either fighter.

Erickson Lubin is just an ordinary boxer in super-welter who is just trying to make himself relevant and surely he cannot have any chance to face Spence or Charlo at 154 as both champions already have boxers in line that have the mandatory belt. Lubin's last fight was against the young and undefeated Sebastian Fundora who currently possess the WBC Interim belt at 154, so unlike Lubin, this Fundora have the chance to take a bite at Charlo's belt.

Forget about that man There's a lot of good boxers around 147 and 154 who truly got some skills and is still undefeated up until now. They are just waiting for a mandatory fights.

[Baofeng]

We should set aside Erickson Lubin's challenge for now, and focus on making this fight happen first to see what the outcome will be. It's a big fight, and Thurman is definitely facing the biggest challenge of his career (after Pacman). If he loses here, it will be his second loss and it won't bode well for his career. Therefore, I expect him to be very well-prepared, as we all know how formidable Spence is in the ring.

Everyone is going to call Spence, and who is Erickson Lubin by the way? he hasn't make any names for himself and I doubt that he will be given the chance to be the next one to face either fighter.

Erickson Lubin is just an ordinary boxer in super-welter who is just trying to make himself relevant and surely he cannot have any chance to face Spence or Charlo at 154 as both champions already have boxers in line that have the mandatory belt. Lubin's last fight was against the young and undefeated Sebastian Fundora who currently possess the WBC Interim belt at 154, so unlike Lubin, this Fundora have the chance to take a bite at Charlo's belt.

Forget about that man There's a lot of good boxers around 147 and 154 who truly got some skills and is still undefeated up until now. They are just waiting for a mandatory fights.

Hehehe, yeah I do agree, he hasn't fought anyone that he deserves even to be mentioned in a sentence with this 147 lbs.  . We still have Tim Tszyu as well next in line for Charlo's belt, and maybe both Spence are going to move up in 154 lbs or even Crawford himself.

But still there are still a lot of good 147 lbs even if they move up in weight class.

For Spence, yeah that photo surfaces about a month ago but so far we haven't heard if he is going to sign with Oscar just to get that one fight that we all wanted to see, Spence vs Crawford.

[harizen]

This is good to know that Crawford with the help of Dela Hoya has a higher chance of getting a deal with Spence.  Hopefully, Dela Hoya is successful in negotiating and get a deal.

For that to happen first though, Terence Crawford needs to undergo a contract with the Golden Boy Promotions. He's currently a free agent.

But I doubt that sounds easy and simple where in fact, Crawford will face a boxer under Golden Boy Promotions, Alexis Rocha for his mandatory title defense. Terence Crawford might think that Golden Boy Promotions is just another Top Rank where the focus is really about pure business that's why the said promotion by Dela Hoya began offering some help "just now".

Although let's face it, for a big mega-fight to happen, big boxing promotions play a big role to make it happen for real.

[MiliMil]

It is absolutely crazy to me that half the people in this thread voted for Thurman to beat Spence.
This is going to be one of the biggest mismatches we've seen.
Thurman can't take body shots, he hates fighting at a fast pace and I don't think he can fight in the pocket particularly well.
I have researched this fight extensively and I can't see one way that Thurman beats Spence.
I think Spence stops Thurman in the 9th round.

[Kelvinid]

It is absolutely crazy to me that half the people in this thread voted for Thurman to beat Spence.
This is going to be one of the biggest mismatches we've seen.
Thurman can't take body shots, he hates fighting at a fast pace and I don't think he can fight in the pocket particularly well.
I have researched this fight extensively and I can't see one way that Thurman beats Spence.
I think Spence stops Thurman in the 9th round.

"What's wrong with that? We vote based on our personal opinion, and while you might be right with your statement, it's better to be honest. I know Spence is a great boxer and a heavy favorite against Thurman, but that cannot change our decision. Let's just see the outcome of the fight and whether our expectations are met.

[btc_angela]

It is absolutely crazy to me that half the people in this thread voted for Thurman to beat Spence.
This is going to be one of the biggest mismatches we've seen.
Thurman can't take body shots, he hates fighting at a fast pace and I don't think he can fight in the pocket particularly well.
I have researched this fight extensively and I can't see one way that Thurman beats Spence.
I think Spence stops Thurman in the 9th round.

"What's wrong with that? We vote based on our personal opinion, and while you might be right with your statement, it's better to be honest. I know Spence is a great boxer and a heavy favorite against Thurman, but that cannot change our decision. Let's just see the outcome of the fight and whether our expectations are met.

And it's probably some of us here are against Spence though, I mean with how he manage himself in the negotiations and failed to make a fight with Crawford. So many become anti-Spence and most likely they voted for Thurman to win.

So yeah, we have our own opinions, and most likely they will have to stick wit it for Thurman.

But I do agree that Spence has the upperhand here, and he will be the betting favorite.

[Pamadar]

It is absolutely crazy to me that half the people in this thread voted for Thurman to beat Spence.
This is going to be one of the biggest mismatches we've seen.
Thurman can't take body shots, he hates fighting at a fast pace and I don't think he can fight in the pocket particularly well.
I have researched this fight extensively and I can't see one way that Thurman beats Spence.
I think Spence stops Thurman in the 9th round.

"What's wrong with that? We vote based on our personal opinion, and while you might be right with your statement, it's better to be honest. I know Spence is a great boxer and a heavy favorite against Thurman, but that cannot change our decision. Let's just see the outcome of the fight and whether our expectations are met.

And it's probably some of us here are against Spence though, I mean with how he manage himself in the negotiations and failed to make a fight with Crawford. So many become anti-Spence and most likely they voted for Thurman to win.

So yeah, we have our own opinions, and most likely they will have to stick wit it for Thurman.

But I do agree that Spence has the upperhand here, and he will be the betting favorite.

He's the bookies favorite and according to stats he got the upper-hand, but we also need to understand that in this sport, upset can bring decent profits for those who love taking the big risk.

If luck permits and Thurman beat Spence, then the winning odd for those who believe
will be sweet.

[Shamm]

It is absolutely crazy to me that half the people in this thread voted for Thurman to beat Spence.
This is going to be one of the biggest mismatches we've seen.
Thurman can't take body shots, he hates fighting at a fast pace and I don't think he can fight in the pocket particularly well.
I have researched this fight extensively and I can't see one way that Thurman beats Spence.
I think Spence stops Thurman in the 9th round.

"What's wrong with that? We vote based on our personal opinion, and while you might be right with your statement, it's better to be honest. I know Spence is a great boxer and a heavy favorite against Thurman, but that cannot change our decision. Let's just see the outcome of the fight and whether our expectations are met.

And it's probably some of us here are against Spence though, I mean with how he manage himself in the negotiations and failed to make a fight with Crawford. So many become anti-Spence and most likely they voted for Thurman to win.

So yeah, we have our own opinions, and most likely they will have to stick wit it for Thurman.

But I do agree that Spence has the upperhand here, and he will be the betting favorite.

Yes you are right that mate and I am one of those boxing fans hated Spence after he excuse their fight against undefeated boxer  Crawford and all I can say is that Spence kind of fighter that he won't fight his opponent if it's is stronger than him or have the same capability. Which is we all know that Spence and Crawford they are equal interms of fighting they are the same undefeated which say's that they are both strong and after that fight one of them will be the best and Spence won't let that happen because he already know he has a 50% win percentage against Crawford.

[freedomgo]

We should set aside Erickson Lubin's challenge for now, and focus on making this fight happen first to see what the outcome will be. It's a big fight, and Thurman is definitely facing the biggest challenge of his career (after Pacman). If he loses here, it will be his second loss and it won't bode well for his career. Therefore, I expect him to be very well-prepared, as we all know how formidable Spence is in the ring.

Everyone is going to call Spence, and who is Erickson Lubin by the way? he hasn't make any names for himself and I doubt that he will be given the chance to be the next one to face either fighter.

Erickson Lubin is just an ordinary boxer in super-welter who is just trying to make himself relevant and surely he cannot have any chance to face Spence or Charlo at 154 as both champions already have boxers in line that have the mandatory belt. Lubin's last fight was against the young and undefeated Sebastian Fundora who currently possess the WBC Interim belt at 154, so unlike Lubin, this Fundora have the chance to take a bite at Charlo's belt.

Forget about that man There's a lot of good boxers around 147 and 154 who truly got some skills and is still undefeated up until now. They are just waiting for a mandatory fights.

Hehehe, yeah I do agree, he hasn't fought anyone that he deserves even to be mentioned in a sentence with this 147 lbs.  . We still have Tim Tszyu as well next in line for Charlo's belt, and maybe both Spence are going to move up in 154 lbs or even Crawford himself.

But still there are still a lot of good 147 lbs even if they move up in weight class.

For Spence, yeah that photo surfaces about a month ago but so far we haven't heard if he is going to sign with Oscar just to get that one fight that we all wanted to see, Spence vs Crawford.

It's quite surprising that this Lubin suddenly appeared out of the blue and saying stuff that he cannot even prove, he even got himself defeated while campaigning for the interim belt. How much more if it's against the champions like the names stated above, but surely, that's not gonna happen as he doesn't have any pre-requisites to have himself a chance to bite on the existence belts.

And for the most awaited up until now, Spence vs Crawford. That bout is still blur up until now because Spence or even Al Haymon didn't gave any signs that a unification bout is imminent, I guess we should wait first what will happen in the Thurman vs Spence fight.

[Sanitough]

It is absolutely crazy to me that half the people in this thread voted for Thurman to beat Spence.
This is going to be one of the biggest mismatches we've seen.
Thurman can't take body shots, he hates fighting at a fast pace and I don't think he can fight in the pocket particularly well.
I have researched this fight extensively and I can't see one way that Thurman beats Spence.
I think Spence stops Thurman in the 9th round.

"What's wrong with that? We vote based on our personal opinion, and while you might be right with your statement, it's better to be honest. I know Spence is a great boxer and a heavy favorite against Thurman, but that cannot change our decision. Let's just see the outcome of the fight and whether our expectations are met.

And it's probably some of us here are against Spence though, I mean with how he manage himself in the negotiations and failed to make a fight with Crawford. So many become anti-Spence and most likely they voted for Thurman to win.

So yeah, we have our own opinions, and most likely they will have to stick wit it for Thurman.

But I do agree that Spence has the upperhand here, and he will be the betting favorite.

He's the bookies favorite and according to stats he got the upper-hand, but we also need to understand that in this sport, upset can bring decent profits for those who love taking the big risk.

If luck permits and Thurman beat Spence, then the winning odd for those who believe
will be sweet.

That's normal because Thurman is almost viewed as a heavy underdog in this fight, so it is also expected that his odds will be that juicy especially the payout if ever Thurman will be successful on this fight. But we should stick to the chances because even if we hate Spence so much for ducking Crawford, let's not forget who truly have the upper hand and taking this fight at 154 might have another reasons aside from the fact that Spence have no belts to risk.