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January 20, 2023, 06:38:14 PM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

Media should not relate this incident with the Mexico to host the FIFA world cup because of two reasons.

First, there is still four year before the world cup will be played and a bad security condition at this point, does not mean that there is no roam for improvement. Mexico can take measures to improve their law and order conditions and more importantly there will be more security deployed when the world cup matches will be in progress in Mexico and the risk of an unfortunate incident will be reduced a lot.
I agree with you, the current security issues in Mexico is not an issue at all if you ask me, this is because like you rightly stated, we still have four good years to the tournament, there is a high possibility that before then, the security challenges faced by the country must have improved.
And besides, I Think FIFA themselves knew about the security issues and still went ahead to choose Mexico as one of the three countries to host the 2026 world cup, it shows that the current security issues in Mexico is not a problem to them at all.

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January 20, 2023, 07:12:34 PM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

I am from Pakistan and we have been through this situation where we were denied hosting any international cricket match for 10 years because there was a terrorist attack on the Srilanka team in our country.
That is now history but the rival countries always hesitate to visit our country and give excuses of that event. This is not right as the security situation is improved over time.
I hope Mexico does not face the same unjustice situation which we have been facing for the last many years.

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January 20, 2023, 07:22:28 PM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

I am from Pakistan and we have been through this situation where we were denied hosting any international cricket match for 10 years because there was a terrorist attack on the Srilanka team in our country.
That is now history but the rival countries always hesitate to visit our country and give excuses of that event. This is not right as the security situation is improved over time.
I hope Mexico does not face the same unjustice situation which we have been facing for the last many years.
This same thing happens in India also that made FIFA to ban India n football federation from participating in football and other similar sports because of what had ensue many years ago. I don't blame anyone for this but this most time could be as a result of insecurity that lead to the rampage causing a serious scene that had lead to sanctions.

When allocating a country that would host the world cup, there are many things that FIFA used to put in consideration in entails the safety of every athletes, hotel to lodge, security and so many other factors to prevent natural or man made disaster. No country would be happy hearing that the lives of there players was lost as a result of hist country not able to safeguard the life of their players and fans.









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January 20, 2023, 10:28:01 PM
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We had the 2010 World Cup in South Africa and it was conducted without any safety issues. The same can be said about the 2014 World Cup, which was held in Brazil. Both these countries do have very high murder rates. And in Brazil and South Africa (and in Mexico as well) the crime ridden areas are located far away from the major urban centers. On the other hand, in the United States the major urban metropolitan areas are more crime ridden when compared to the rural localities. If you are concerned about crime, then I guess you need to worry about the US more than the case with Mexico.
I know this post commenting on the current situation in Mexico was from a few days ago, but I wat to share my opinion.

@Sithara007, what you said is true, Brazil was or still is one of the most violent countries in the world, when Brazil was chosen to host the World Cup in 2014, many people were afraid about the security of that country, especially, the tourists.
But at least, everything went well during the 2014 World Cup.

I think that if the situation in Mexico gets worse over time or the crime level is extremely high just before the 2026 world cup, I have no doubt that the United States or Canada will be able to hold those games that would be in the Mexico in their countries.

I believe that one of the worst negative points in this regard will be the tourists, as there will be tourists who have bought tickets, plane tickets and even hotel advance, and at the end of the day, they will not be able to attend this great event that it's the world cup.
Well... I know that companies can reverse payments, but this will become a disappointing and delicate situation to resolve.

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January 21, 2023, 02:47:45 AM
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We had the 2010 World Cup in South Africa and it was conducted without any safety issues. The same can be said about the 2014 World Cup, which was held in Brazil. Both these countries do have very high murder rates. And in Brazil and South Africa (and in Mexico as well) the crime ridden areas are located far away from the major urban centers. On the other hand, in the United States the major urban metropolitan areas are more crime ridden when compared to the rural localities. If you are concerned about crime, then I guess you need to worry about the US more than the case with Mexico.
I know this post commenting on the current situation in Mexico was from a few days ago, but I wat to share my opinion.

@Sithara007, what you said is true, Brazil was or still is one of the most violent countries in the world, when Brazil was chosen to host the World Cup in 2014, many people were afraid about the security of that country, especially, the tourists.
But at least, everything went well during the 2014 World Cup.

I think that if the situation in Mexico gets worse over time or the crime level is extremely high just before the 2026 world cup, I have no doubt that the United States or Canada will be able to hold those games that would be in the Mexico in their countries.

I believe that one of the worst negative points in this regard will be the tourists, as there will be tourists who have bought tickets, plane tickets and even hotel advance, and at the end of the day, they will not be able to attend this great event that it's the world cup.
Well... I know that companies can reverse payments, but this will become a disappointing and delicate situation to resolve.

Well.. 2026 is still three years away and therefore I don't want to make any predictions. Back in 2022, Mexico reported 31,127 violent homicides at a rate of 86 murders every day. Numbers are slightly down from the 2020 and 2019 figures (94 and 95 per day respectively). Juarez on the US border is regarded as the murder capital of Mexico, and that city saw 1,045 murders in 2022 (compared to 1,420 in 2021). Ciudad Juárez isn't that big. It has a population of just 1.5 million.

My concern is that crime rate in Mexico actually went up after 2016-2017 and even now it hasn't shown any hint of slowing down. Check the murder rates by year, in the image below:


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Ecuador was able to play in the previous world cup, but they will probably not be able to qualify for this one as they got a 3 points penalty from FIFA.

Ecuador will play at this year's World Cup in Qatar after the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) on Tuesday said Byron Castillo, whom Chile claimed was ineligible to play during the qualifiers, was deemed an Ecuadorean national.

Ecuador will, however, get a three-point deduction at the start of the qualifying campaign for the 2026 World Cup and must also pay a fine of 100,000 Swiss Francs ($101,605.36) for the "use of a document containing false information," CAS said.

It seems pretty strange that they got away with only just 3 points deduction and being able to play in the previous world cup.

I mean, this shows that Ecuador indeed did the wrong thing, but apparently it was too late to make changes.

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January 21, 2023, 06:01:53 AM
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I checked with Asian zone have added about 8 countries or national team will get automatic ticket playing for FIFA World Cup, will have bigger chance because our national team success qualify to Asian Cup in this years and I hope can success at qualify for
FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will begin for several months later.
If the official PSSI is still money-oriented and power-hungry, that look hard for Indonesia to go to the next world cup in 2026. Right now, the official is still busy preparing the Election chairman of PSSI. and they forget about world cup 2026 preparation, they forget also if the plan to qualification is not easy and needs much time to prepare to select the player, coach, and new talent.

So, I don't expect too much, that looks impossible if you hope to qualified. Indonesia's Team is the same as before, don't have motivation as a participant, because the loss is a habit, and the official is never thinking about how to receive achievement, next world cup 2026 I am still pessimistic that Indonesia is still a spectator.

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January 21, 2023, 08:15:45 AM
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Well.. 2026 is still three years away and therefore I don't want to make any predictions. Back in 2022, Mexico reported 31,127 violent homicides at a rate of 86 murders every day. Numbers are slightly down from the 2020 and 2019 figures (94 and 95 per day respectively). Juarez on the US border is regarded as the murder capital of Mexico, and that city saw 1,045 murders in 2022 (compared to 1,420 in 2021). Ciudad Juárez isn't that big. It has a population of just 1.5 million.

My concern is that crime rate in Mexico actually went up after 2016-2017 and even now it hasn't shown any hint of slowing down. Check the murder rates by year, in the image below:

I didn't know that, thanks for that data and information.

I don't have a huge information of Mexico, so I can't share something totally assertive.

Well, another event that happened in Brazil and that many people/tourists were afraid of was related to the 2016 Olympic Games in Brazil. But at the end of it all, nothing extremely serious happened in this event, so this could also happen to Mexico.

As you said earlier, the world cup will only take place in 2026, so I believe that Mexico will have time to stop these types of events or at least reduce the rate of crime, homicides and others.

If the year 2026 arrives, and the level of crime/murders/corruption and others are high, I believe, FIFA will be able to reorganize the games, and the USA and Canada will continue with this event in 2026.

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January 21, 2023, 02:59:29 PM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

Media should not relate this incident with the Mexico to host the FIFA world cup because of two reasons.

First, there is still four year before the world cup will be played and a bad security condition at this point, does not mean that there is no roam for improvement. Mexico can take measures to improve their law and order conditions and more importantly there will be more security deployed when the world cup matches will be in progress in Mexico and the risk of an unfortunate incident will be reduced a lot.

Besides, the FIFA council are also watching the Mexico's government and its movement just to make sure that the upcoming games of the FIFA Word Cup 2026 will be a lot safe and if the FIFA will not be impressed by what they are doing, they can always remove some of the games that will be hosted by the Mexico and will re-arrange what place will be more suitable because I know they are also making the safety a priority. Anyway, there's still a lot of time to prepare for it.

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January 21, 2023, 03:25:47 PM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

Media should not relate this incident with the Mexico to host the FIFA world cup because of two reasons.

First, there is still four year before the world cup will be played and a bad security condition at this point, does not mean that there is no roam for improvement. Mexico can take measures to improve their law and order conditions and more importantly there will be more security deployed when the world cup matches will be in progress in Mexico and the risk of an unfortunate incident will be reduced a lot.

Besides, the FIFA council are also watching the Mexico's government and its movement just to make sure that the upcoming games of the FIFA Word Cup 2026 will be a lot safe and if the FIFA will not be impressed by what they are doing, they can always remove some of the games that will be hosted by the Mexico and will re-arrange what place will be more suitable because I know they are also making the safety a priority. Anyway, there's still a lot of time to prepare for it.

Out of the total 80 matches, 10 matches each will be hosted by Canada and Mexico. So in case there is any law and order situation at Mexico or the conditions at Mexico are not good till 2025, the FIFA can easily manage these 10 matches through Canada and USA. Anyways Mexico will never want this to happen and i am sure they have plans to make their country safe before the start of this 2026 FIFA world cup.

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January 21, 2023, 03:51:36 PM
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I checked with Asian zone have added about 8 countries or national team will get automatic ticket playing for FIFA World Cup, will have bigger chance because our national team success qualify to Asian Cup in this years and I hope can success at qualify for
FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will begin for several months later.
If the official PSSI is still money-oriented and power-hungry, that look hard for Indonesia to go to the next world cup in 2026. Right now, the official is still busy preparing the Election chairman of PSSI. and they forget about world cup 2026 preparation, they forget also if the plan to qualification is not easy and needs much time to prepare to select the player, coach, and new talent.

So, I don't expect too much, that looks impossible if you hope to qualified. Indonesia's Team is the same as before, don't have motivation as a participant, because the loss is a habit, and the official is never thinking about how to receive achievement, next world cup 2026 I am still pessimistic that Indonesia is still a spectator.
It is true that the PSSI management from the past until now have only thought about their personal interests and have only been busy enriching themselves by becoming members of the PSSI management.
They don't care and think about the fate of the Indonesian national football team, all they care about is the best way to earn some money by taking advantage of their position as PSSI members and there are always problems in seizing power in becoming the general chairman of PSSI.
If this situation continues, it will only be a joke if Indonesia can survive and participate in the upcoming World Cup. Not to mention that it will be difficult for Indonesia to win the World Cup in the Asian Cup.
So it will only be in vain if Indonesia participates in the World Cup because PSSI as an association or Indonesian football committee has taken no further action on this matter.

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January 21, 2023, 03:53:19 PM
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Ecuador was able to play in the previous world cup, but they will probably not be able to qualify for this one as they got a 3 points penalty from FIFA.

Ecuador will play at this year's World Cup in Qatar after the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) on Tuesday said Byron Castillo, whom Chile claimed was ineligible to play during the qualifiers, was deemed an Ecuadorean national.

Ecuador will, however, get a three-point deduction at the start of the qualifying campaign for the 2026 World Cup and must also pay a fine of 100,000 Swiss Francs ($101,605.36) for the "use of a document containing false information," CAS said.

It seems pretty strange that they got away with only just 3 points deduction and being able to play in the previous world cup.

I mean, this shows that Ecuador indeed did the wrong thing, but apparently it was too late to make changes.

This is another disgraceful decision by FIFA who did not react in time and allowed Ecuador to participate in the World Cup in Qatar even though it was obvious that they broke the rules and one of their players illegally played for them in the World Cup qualifiers.
It was more important for FIFA not to create unnecessary confusion before the start of the World Cup in Qatar than to correct the injustice and allow Chile to play instead of Ecuador.
What does this subsequent punishment to Ecuador mean to the unfortunate Chileans? Absolutely nothing.
Football is always about money and not about justice and fairness.

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January 21, 2023, 04:31:15 PM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

Media should not relate this incident with the Mexico to host the FIFA world cup because of two reasons.

First, there is still four year before the world cup will be played and a bad security condition at this point, does not mean that there is no roam for improvement. Mexico can take measures to improve their law and order conditions and more importantly there will be more security deployed when the world cup matches will be in progress in Mexico and the risk of an unfortunate incident will be reduced a lot.
The media house is not supposed cover a news that is not real. Only thing I would say here is the media companies broadcast news differently in different Countries. The way the media houses broadcast news in the advance countries are different from the ones in the developing countries. The sanctions that against bad broadcasting in the world is not really utilize mostly in the developing countries so media houses do things the way they like.
Broadcasting is a way of marketing the country's image so what comes out from the broadcasting room always supposed to be legit because people move about with the information gotten from the media house. But for the Mexico case, to some extent pre-information is good the visitors that are going to the country for the very first time, so that they would know how to move about.









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January 21, 2023, 08:10:02 PM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

I am from Pakistan and we have been through this situation where we were denied hosting any international cricket match for 10 years because there was a terrorist attack on the Srilanka team in our country.
That is now history but the rival countries always hesitate to visit our country and give excuses of that event. This is not right as the security situation is improved over time.
I hope Mexico does not face the same unjustice situation which we have been facing for the last many years.

We cannot really blame them because the management of FIFA just wanted a safe environment for all the viewers and players in every team that will be participating in the said match as well as every people needed to support the team. So, even if we say that the security of the country has improved, conditions may still vary because the FIFA will still look for a country that can host some games that will be also profitable to them, let's say it's a win-win situation for both the country and organization. In addition, that's likely the reason why your country were denied to host any international cricket games.

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January 21, 2023, 11:23:08 PM
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This is another disgraceful decision by FIFA who did not react in time and allowed Ecuador to participate in the World Cup in Qatar even though it was obvious that they broke the rules and one of their players illegally played for them in the World Cup qualifiers.
It was more important for FIFA not to create unnecessary confusion before the start of the World Cup in Qatar than to correct the injustice and allow Chile to play instead of Ecuador.
What does this subsequent punishment to Ecuador mean to the unfortunate Chileans? Absolutely nothing.
Football is always about money and not about justice and fairness.

It is really a bad look, either they though Ecuador did nothing wrong, and let them play, or they think Ecuador did something wrong, and should have acted on that.

The fact that they think Ecuador did something wrong, and instead of acting and discounting the points in which the player was in the field, they simply ignored that, and just gave a 3 point penalty to Ecuador in the next tournament.

That seems like nothing compared to what was supposed to happen.

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January 21, 2023, 11:47:12 PM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

Media should not relate this incident with the Mexico to host the FIFA world cup because of two reasons.

First, there is still four year before the world cup will be played and a bad security condition at this point, does not mean that there is no roam for improvement. Mexico can take measures to improve their law and order conditions and more importantly there will be more security deployed when the world cup matches will be in progress in Mexico and the risk of an unfortunate incident will be reduced a lot.

Besides, the FIFA council are also watching the Mexico's government and its movement just to make sure that the upcoming games of the FIFA Word Cup 2026 will be a lot safe and if the FIFA will not be impressed by what they are doing, they can always remove some of the games that will be hosted by the Mexico and will re-arrange what place will be more suitable because I know they are also making the safety a priority. Anyway, there's still a lot of time to prepare for it.

Out of the total 80 matches, 10 matches each will be hosted by Canada and Mexico. So in case there is any law and order situation at Mexico or the conditions at Mexico are not good till 2025, the FIFA can easily manage these 10 matches through Canada and USA. Anyways Mexico will never want this to happen and i am sure they have plans to make their country safe before the start of this 2026 FIFA world cup.
Exactly my take as well, having to host a world cup I believe is an honor to any country that is given the opportunity, Mexico, alongside Canada and USA have been honored with this opportunity, I am sure that none of them would want to mess anything up, I personally see this countries going on top one another to give us the best world cup experience, because their performance in hosting the world cup would definitely be something alot of people would be talking about since it's the first time we are seeing three different countries hosting a world cup, none of the chosen countries would want to tagged the worst 2026 world cup host, so I believe Mexico will fix their self up before the year for the tournament to kick off.

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January 22, 2023, 01:09:10 AM
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I checked with Asian zone have added about 8 countries or national team will get automatic ticket playing for FIFA World Cup, will have bigger chance because our national team success qualify to Asian Cup in this years and I hope can success at qualify for
FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will begin for several months later.
If the official PSSI is still money-oriented and power-hungry, that look hard for Indonesia to go to the next world cup in 2026. Right now, the official is still busy preparing the Election chairman of PSSI. and they forget about world cup 2026 preparation, they forget also if the plan to qualification is not easy and needs much time to prepare to select the player, coach, and new talent.

So, I don't expect too much, that looks impossible if you hope to qualified. Indonesia's Team is the same as before, don't have motivation as a participant, because the loss is a habit, and the official is never thinking about how to receive achievement, next world cup 2026 I am still pessimistic that Indonesia is still a spectator.
It is true that the PSSI management from the past until now have only thought about their personal interests and have only been busy enriching themselves by becoming members of the PSSI management.
They don't care and think about the fate of the Indonesian national football team, all they care about is the best way to earn some money by taking advantage of their position as PSSI members and there are always problems in seizing power in becoming the general chairman of PSSI.
If this situation continues, it will only be a joke if Indonesia can survive and participate in the upcoming World Cup. Not to mention that it will be difficult for Indonesia to win the World Cup in the Asian Cup.
So it will only be in vain if Indonesia participates in the World Cup because PSSI as an association or Indonesian football committee has taken no further action on this matter.
That 2 ministers and Ex-Corruptor are interested to join the chairman of PSSI which I think they don't have shamed. Eric Tohir sells himself as ex the owner of Inter Milan, he said as accustomed to managing football, but I think he has other interests. Because He is a minister, that should have policies even different departments to rain the money if wants to make Indonesia Football strong in World Cup 2026. While La Nyala once served but we know no achievements whatsoever, He just sell his self for senator election in 2024.

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January 22, 2023, 03:32:10 AM
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Exactly my take as well, having to host a world cup I believe is an honor to any country that is given the opportunity, Mexico, alongside Canada and USA have been honored with this opportunity, I am sure that none of them would want to mess anything up, I personally see this countries going on top one another to give us the best world cup experience, because their performance in hosting the world cup would definitely be something alot of people would be talking about since it's the first time we are seeing three different countries hosting a world cup, none of the chosen countries would want to tagged the worst 2026 world cup host, so I believe Mexico will fix their self up before the year for the tournament to kick off.
I believe Mexico won't have any issues when the time of the World Cup comes. It's not an unusual practice in latin america for governments to negotiate with criminals on the backgrounds to avoid issues during international events hosted by the country which boost the local economy. After all, the criminals also have interest the event is successful, as there are tourists who make use of illegal susbstances, generating income for them.

I don't know if anyone is still surprised or shocked by this at this point, but that is how things work for real. That is the stark truth.

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January 22, 2023, 03:36:36 AM
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This is the role of media in destroying a country's image just because of any incident that happened in that particular country. Same thing happens with Pakistan all the time , bad media coverage and wrong reporting unfact exaggeration makes any country an insecure country to live in .
All countries have their good and bad points and I am sure mexico is not just about drug cartels or criminals there will be  uch more than that and for fifa fans there will be much more to explore and experience.

I am from Pakistan and we have been through this situation where we were denied hosting any international cricket match for 10 years because there was a terrorist attack on the Srilanka team in our country.
That is now history but the rival countries always hesitate to visit our country and give excuses of that event. This is not right as the security situation is improved over time.
I hope Mexico does not face the same unjustice situation which we have been facing for the last many years.
This same thing happens in India also that made FIFA to ban India n football federation from participating in football and other similar sports because of what had ensue many years ago. I don't blame anyone for this but this most time could be as a result of insecurity that lead to the rampage causing a serious scene that had lead to sanctions.


Oh, I did not know that Fifa Ban Indian football too. They also banned our country, not for security reasons but because they believe that our offices were controlled by third-party. Later on in 2022, this ban was lifted and we had a sign of relief.
More details:- FIFA lifts suspension of Pakistan Football Federation

By the way, when we see the progress of our neighboring countries like Saudia Arab, Qatar, Japan, Korea, Iran, etc, we see that both Pakistan and India are left behind in this race of become a strong football nation.

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January 22, 2023, 05:19:46 AM
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It is really a bad look, either they though Ecuador did nothing wrong, and let them play, or they think Ecuador did something wrong, and should have acted on that.

The fact that they think Ecuador did something wrong, and instead of acting and discounting the points in which the player was in the field, they simply ignored that, and just gave a 3 point penalty to Ecuador in the next tournament.

That seems like nothing compared to what was supposed to happen.
And those 3 points mean absolutely nothing as now with the increase on the number of teams which will qualify to the world cup CONMEBOL went from 4.5 spots to 6.33 which in theory could allow 7 out of 10 teams to make it to the world cup, so it is very likely that despite such a penalty Ecuador will make it to the next world cup without any problem, so I think of this sanction as purely symbolic as I doubt it will have any effect at all.
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