FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread

[Sithara007]

I support the idea that World Cup events should be debated by a committee made up of members from several countries and not by a single institution with centralized decision-making power.

I recognize that FIFA's role is important and essential for world football, but events of great impact such as the Football World Cup should have their issues debated and resolved in common agreement with several representative countries, it would be more democratic, fair and probably it would greatly reduce the corruption that we all know exists within FIFA.

Corruption will exist as long as the member nations are provided with equal voting rights. For example, for deciding the hosts for FIFA World Cup, Argentina and Brazil have the same voting rights as Palau or Nauru. And this is one of the reasons why there is so much corruption within FIFA. These smaller nations can be easily bribed. Qatar spent $300 billion to host the 2022 World Cup. Don't you think that they will bother paying a few million USD to bribe some of the small island nations to vote for them? And this is exactly how Qatar got the hosting rights for the 2022 edition.

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[shogun47]

It is not about being stronger, it is about the idea that the privilege to host a World Cup should engage the hosting nation as much as possible as it is what I said it is: a privilege. This way some fairness can be preserved for as long as the right to host the World Cup isn't won due to corruption.

I support the idea that World Cup events should be debated by a committee made up of members from several countries and not by a single institution with centralized decision-making power.

I recognize that FIFA's role is important and essential for world football, but events of great impact such as the Football World Cup should have their issues debated and resolved in common agreement with several representative countries, it would be more democratic, fair and probably it would greatly reduce the corruption that we all know exists within FIFA.

That doesn't solve the problem. Even if you have sort of an assembly of a lot of people who could then vote for a nation to become the host of the next World Cup, how would you prevent those voters from being bribed in advance? Corruption is so hard to fight because voters would be willing to vote against their own countries and people as soon as the price is high enough to suppress the last bit of morals inside of them.

Having more people to vote on the outcome would at least raise the price for corruption. Perhaps there should be some probabilistic procedure where 200 people get to read the applications, all of them have to cast a vote but only 20 of them will count based on a predetermined selection procedure. Like a lottery here on Bitcointalk that is based on the hash of a future block.

The basic idea would be to raise the price for corruption in any way possible, but I don't know what the right way could be to go about it.

[keyscore44]

It is not about being stronger, it is about the idea that the privilege to host a World Cup should engage the hosting nation as much as possible as it is what I said it is: a privilege. This way some fairness can be preserved for as long as the right to host the World Cup isn't won due to corruption.

I support the idea that World Cup events should be debated by a committee made up of members from several countries and not by a single institution with centralized decision-making power.

I recognize that FIFA's role is important and essential for world football, but events of great impact such as the Football World Cup should have their issues debated and resolved in common agreement with several representative countries, it would be more democratic, fair and probably it would greatly reduce the corruption that we all know exists within FIFA.

That doesn't solve the problem. Even if you have sort of an assembly of a lot of people who could then vote for a nation to become the host of the next World Cup, how would you prevent those voters from being bribed in advance? Corruption is so hard to fight because voters would be willing to vote against their own countries and people as soon as the price is high enough to suppress the last bit of morals inside of them.

Having more people to vote on the outcome would at least raise the price for corruption. Perhaps there should be some probabilistic procedure where 200 people get to read the applications, all of them have to cast a vote but only 20 of them will count based on a predetermined selection procedure. Like a lottery here on Bitcointalk that is based on the hash of a future block.

The basic idea would be to raise the price for corruption in any way possible, but I don't know what the right way could be to go about it.

I think every country that didn't qualify for the World Cup should be given one friendly match in the World Cup. Then the teams will develop the spirit of World Cup and work hard to qualify for the World Cup. This issue needs to be considered by the FIFA authorities.

[Sithara007]

I think every country that didn't qualify for the World Cup should be given one friendly match in the World Cup. Then the teams will develop the spirit of World Cup and work hard to qualify for the World Cup. This issue needs to be considered by the FIFA authorities.

Well.. this is a very good idea. Something like this can be considered - FIFA should organize one warmup match for each of the 48 participating nations one or two days before the start of the world cup. And teams that are ranked from 49 to 96 can take part in these warmup matches. This will also help the participating nations to get adjusted to the climatic conditions. And for FIFA, it will provide some additional revenue. Finally, for the teams that were unfortunate to miss the qualification, these matches will give a taste of the main competition.

[Leviathan.007]

I think every country that didn't qualify for the World Cup should be given one friendly match in the World Cup. Then the teams will develop the spirit of World Cup and work hard to qualify for the World Cup. This issue needs to be considered by the FIFA authorities.

The idea is a good one, and I believe it would be beneficial to those teams that weren't able to qualify for the world cup in the first place. They will have the opportunity to keep themselves prepared and do rework in order to have a better chance of qualifying next time. However, the problem with this idea is that these teams that did not get qualified are usually the weakest teams in the world, which means that even a friendly match will not do much for them.

[Silberman]

I dislike with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United because this edition have three co-hosts and cut off two national team slot participants left, no doubt with added participants from 32 become 48 national team and three co-hosts have 45 national team will get place for participating in FIFA World Cup 2026.

Still controversy with added participants team in FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United and have many matches later but most advantage with commercial is FIFA, they will earn much commission from broadcast and advertising with have many matches than usually still adopt 32 national team participants.

Maybe this is the start of a new era of multi-country-hosted world cups. Already we have 3 for the next one and there's talks about having 4 in the 2030 one in South America.

Given that so many teams will be able to qualify, it's not crazy to qualify immediately more than one host.

We'll have to see what happens.

With the increase in the number of teams to participate on the world cup, it makes sense that this will also put a greater financial strain on the host as now it will need to build more stadiums and welcome more tourists than ever, so having several countries host the world cup can lessen that burden while at the same time it brings the world cup to more countries at a faster speed, fulfilling one of the goals of FIFA of promoting soccer all over the world.

[Leviathan.007]

I dislike with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United because this edition have three co-hosts and cut off two national team slot participants left, no doubt with added participants from 32 become 48 national team and three co-hosts have 45 national team will get place for participating in FIFA World Cup 2026.

Still controversy with added participants team in FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United and have many matches later but most advantage with commercial is FIFA, they will earn much commission from broadcast and advertising with have many matches than usually still adopt 32 national team participants.

Maybe this is the start of a new era of multi-country-hosted world cups. Already we have 3 for the next one and there's talks about having 4 in the 2030 one in South America.

Given that so many teams will be able to qualify, it's not crazy to qualify immediately more than one host.

We'll have to see what happens.

With the increase in the number of teams to participate on the world cup, it makes sense that this will also put a greater financial strain on the host as now it will need to build more stadiums and welcome more tourists than ever, so having several countries host the world cup can lessen that burden while at the same time it brings the world cup to more countries at a faster speed, fulfilling one of the goals of FIFA of promoting soccer all over the world.

In spite of the fact that I didn't pay attention to this one, you are right, if they increase the number of teams in the role, there will be more international teams and a more thriving community than they had before. In general, this can have a positive effect on the financial situation for the teams that host the games since there will be more gore tourists in their countries, but regardless of the financial situation, I still think that this can negatively impact the world cup.

[beerlover]

Corruption will exist as long as the member nations are provided with equal voting rights. For example, for deciding the hosts for FIFA World Cup, Argentina and Brazil have the same voting rights as Palau or Nauru. And this is one of the reasons why there is so much corruption within FIFA. These smaller nations can be easily bribed. Qatar spent $300 billion to host the 2022 World Cup. Don't you think that they will bother paying a few million USD to bribe some of the small island nations to vote for them? And this is exactly how Qatar got the hosting rights for the 2022 edition.

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

[sovie]

I think every country that didn't qualify for the World Cup should be given one friendly match in the World Cup. Then the teams will develop the spirit of World Cup and work hard to qualify for the World Cup. This issue needs to be considered by the FIFA authorities.

Well.. this is a very good idea. Something like this can be considered - FIFA should organize one warmup match for each of the 48 participating nations one or two days before the start of the world cup. And teams that are ranked from 49 to 96 can take part in these warmup matches. This will also help the participating nations to get adjusted to the climatic conditions. And for FIFA, it will provide some additional revenue. Finally, for the teams that were unfortunate to miss the qualification, these matches will give a taste of the main competition.

It can actually be a good plan. By doing this, the teams who did not get the experience of playing in the World Cup will try to get it later and prepare themselves better for playing in the main tournament. As a result, I hope that the next World Cups will be more magnificent. However, the FIFA authority should really think about this matter.

[KTChampions]

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

[n0ne]

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

Once it had happened and then the officials gets used to it. This is how corruption continues even when the officials weren't interested to take bribe. The involvement of businessman corruption can be eradicated, but when we move towards the national team businessman weren't able to make certain decisions. It is said that Qatar bribed the officials and got the hosting rights. I'm not sure of it, if that's true some other country will be allocating a big fund and waiting for its turn. This is how it continues.

[nullama]

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A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

Well, it's not like organizations are created out of thin air. They are created by people.

If you change people to others that are not corrupt, then they would make changes to the organization, making the whole thing less prone to corruption.

It's a cycle, if you have corrupt people things start to degrade, and if you have great people, things start to improve.

[Chikito]

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

[og kush420]

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

[sovie]

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

If the World Cup is held in 3 countries I think the fans and supporters will suffer a bit. But FIFA is always trying to find innovation, perhaps by hosting the World Cup in these three countries, we will find something new and everyone will be able to enjoy it.

[Leviathan.007]

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

If the World Cup is held in 3 countries I think the fans and supporters will suffer a bit. But FIFA is always trying to find innovation, perhaps by hosting the World Cup in these three countries, we will find something new and everyone will be able to enjoy it.

But I think I didn't understand why they had to choose three countries instead of one, I mean during the last world cup Qatar hosted the whole world cup games they had no problems while Qatar is a smaller country and they had to build stadiums for the role cup and not America or Canada both got more potential and they could even host the whole world cup in one country instead of three.

[rdluffy]

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

With 3 countries hosting the World Cup it will be the first time, but we already had the 2002 World Cup in South Korea and Japan, and it was a success.
I believe it will be an excellent event, even more so for the three countries in question.
Why do you think it will not be successful?

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

In my opinion, a World Cup hosted in the United States, Canada, and Mexico makes perfect sense, and it was a great choice.
For 2030 we could have 4 South American countries (Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, and Chile) or Spain, Portugal, and Ukraine, which also makes perfect sense to me and will be great choices again.

What was not a good choice and was totally questionable was holding a World Cup in Russia followed by one in Qatar, the criteria made no sense at all.
What I mean by all this is that in the past these choices have been very questionable, but something seems to have improved within FIFA, hopefully.
I don't believe there can be corruption with the US confederations for example, since they led the previous investigations against FIFA and its former presidents.

[mm2543363580]

Yeah, the sad thing is that FIFA is rich enough that they do not need to be corrupted, it's the people that are corrupted at the top, or at least it was, can't talk about the current one but they did not reverse any decision neither for legal scare.

However, if you pick people who are honest and true to their word, then you shouldn't be worried about corruption because FIFA is not corrupted as an organization, it's the people in that organization, so you fire them and get honest people and FIFA would not be corrupt at all. Paying a few million or even a lot of million to people could sound easy, but you need people who will say no to bribery like that, hard to find but they exist.

A very serious delusion. FIFA = corruption. You can change people as much as you like, but if the system is created as corrupt, then the result will be corruption. Wherever there are officials who dispose of the fruits of the labor of others, there is corruption. Football is a business, business should be run by businessmen and not corrupt officials. If you build a system that does not allow corruption, then you will not have it even if there are dishonest people inside it. And what we are seeing now shows precisely the systemic problem.

I hope the committee appointed by FIFA on those countries (Canada/Mexico/United States) is not corrupted. Because honest people will work perfectly and don't want to get intervention from the parent organization (FIFA). but of course, honest people will be got a consequence if the committee doesn't comply with what FIFA wants like being fired halfway. Maybe we won't be surprised to hear that at the next event if have a substitution of the committees.

Is it for the first time World cup is split in three countries?
Or has it ever happened earlier? I think it won't be a successful experience.

If the World Cup is held in 3 countries I think the fans and supporters will suffer a bit. But FIFA is always trying to find innovation, perhaps by hosting the World Cup in these three countries, we will find something new and everyone will be able to enjoy it.

But I think I didn't understand why they had to choose three countries instead of one, I mean during the last world cup Qatar hosted the whole world cup games they had no problems while Qatar is a smaller country and they had to build stadiums for the role cup and not America or Canada both got more potential and they could even host the whole world cup in one country instead of three.

This innovation is just to give an exciting turn to fifa world cup and there are  chances of it to be a total disaster as how the fans will move freely in between countries with their supporting teams . This is a big question mark and this will be solved in 2026.
Visa policy is still a question?

[armanda90]

Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

[bitgov]

Judging from the geographical and weather conditions, it seems that the South American zone is very supportive for national teams from Europe, many national teams seems not comfortable when Qatar as the host of FIFA World Cup 2022 because have hot weather and changed several league schedule for World Cup matches held on at the end year.

Still not official confirmed yet with FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States will held on middle years after several European League competition ended or FIFA keep try begin like the same previous FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar, but most effective with FIFA World Cup start after all league ended around June until July not on December like in Qatar.

In fact, so far maybe FIFA has not officially announced that the next World Cup will be held in these three countries. However, as this news is being reported from many media outlets, it is likely to happen. But I believe whatever decision FIFA takes will be happy and convincing to football fans all over the world.