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April 22, 2023, 02:18:17 PM
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In my opinion.

Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.

So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.
For me, the only reason why you call it gambling is because you are gambling an amount that you may lose or win in the end. If there’s no money waiting as a reward, or any thing that has a value, I don’t think it can be considered gambling. Though we may say everything we do that is uncertain can be called gambling, but gambling in casinos is a different thing, it comes with rewards or losses in the end.
Absolutely right there will be profit and loss for gambling but if you control everything properly it is easy to win at the casino. We believe that online casinos are the best option you can win or lose based on how much you bet. Also before trying to win at free online casinos it's essential to do your research so you know what you're getting into.
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April 22, 2023, 02:28:05 PM
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Somehow, yes i'd say it still falls under gambling since helps you improve your predicting skills which is what you'll need when you start gambling, and that could even possibly encourage or trigger you to gamble with money in the future.

I've seen a similar promotion done by other sportsbooks as well so that made it easier for me to include it as gambling.

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April 22, 2023, 02:54:29 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

You can’t properly tell it or term it as “Gambling”, as in gambling, you have to take risk and bet with your own money. In gambling there are equal possibilities to win as well as lose and that too money that is in risk. But here as you are saying, you can pick a bet for free or make predictions for free and then can win money. This can be said as contest, or basic lottery or raffle without entry fees. I haven’t personally tested the site, so don’t know what their motive of giving away free money. Willing to hear other people’s opinion on this.
Me too has never heard the site before, not until today and might be researching on it later. Well, maybe what the site’s offer is not really gambling, it’s more like just a guessing game and you make rewards after you guess it right. While in gambling, it always involves money wagering, since you have to bet and wager minimum amount and expect a win or lose in the end. Anything that does not involves with money may not be considered gambling in the first place.
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April 22, 2023, 02:59:02 PM
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Somehow, yes i'd say it still falls under gambling since helps you improve your predicting skills which is what you'll need when you start gambling, and that could even possibly encourage or trigger you to gamble with money in the future.

I've seen a similar promotion done by other sportsbooks as well so that made it easier for me to include it as gambling.

It involves gambling but it's not as risky as wagering and staking but it still has to do with your whole gambling journey. You're just being rewarded through predictions but you wouldn't be needing to risk your funds so it isn't totally gambling but just contributing and participating in their event. However, it's the site's way to attract more players because it will trigger curiosity and interest in gamblers.
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April 22, 2023, 03:25:01 PM
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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
In my opinion, these are called Games which are played a lot to fill your spare time, because gambling usually is playing with your real money. But, we must look at it carefully, what purpose they made this, and what did they benefit?, If they can't make benefit from the website, Of course, they will lose and waste money. And, most likely inducement, if the player begins to addictive they won't play free anymore, and maybe the user will try to deposit as much as they can.
Gambling doesn't have everything to do with money, you should look into the real meaning of gambling before you drop a point.

Gambling is a dangerous action undertaken with the hope of success, that's the definition of gambling, if you are aiming for a possible outcome tomorrow and you aren't sure about it, this is gambling.

If you are a company owner and you are looking to hire someone, but you don't know how good this person is even after showing their worth to you, you are simply gambling.

Using money or not using money, gamble is still a gamble.

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April 22, 2023, 03:25:20 PM
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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
As far as I know in the world of gambling there are no free betting sites and if users win they can bring money, they are given free money, that's all nonsense, one of which is what the superpicks.com site does.

There is evidence of the site superpicks.com talking nonsense.
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Just a waste of time placing a bet on superpicks.com site they are really bad at gambling.

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April 22, 2023, 03:38:18 PM
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Somehow, yes i'd say it still falls under gambling since helps you improve your predicting skills which is what you'll need when you start gambling, and that could even possibly encourage or trigger you to gamble with money in the future.

I've seen a similar promotion done by other sportsbooks as well so that made it easier for me to include it as gambling.

It involves gambling but it's not as risky as wagering and staking but it still has to do with your whole gambling journey. You're just being rewarded through predictions but you wouldn't be needing to risk your funds so it isn't totally gambling but just contributing and participating in their event. However, it's the site's way to attract more players because it will trigger curiosity and interest in gamblers.
Not too risky? as ralle14 said that it is risky to trigger people to try betting using real money when predicting with free money the results are always right and that person realizes that he has the potential to bet with his own money and get big results.
Like the first time I gambled because I played poker gambling in an application using free money and finally I was triggered to try gambling using my own money.
But that's just my own opinion.

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April 22, 2023, 03:46:02 PM
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In my opinion, I would still call it gambling since you are in gambling industry and you wanted to get the desired result. A gambling is when you want to get the desired result, taking risk of earning money by spending money. I don't believe that there is a free bet as you may have known that not all what you do is free that's why they are paying you to do the job. You can say it like it's an online job where you give predictions and they will pay for it.

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April 22, 2023, 03:50:12 PM
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Gambling can come in many forms. If something you do involves risking and has a probability of winning or losing, then yes it's still considered as gambling. Otherwise, it's just a mere practicing of strategy so that in the actual event, you'll get the gist of how it plays and you'll be more confident to do the next steps in order to make a win.

Gambling doesn't only involve money per se. You can make a bet and use other assets as a your stake depending of course on the terms agreed upon by the other gamblers or the house itself if it will allow such. Although mostly, these kind of bets do not occur in a formal and established casino, and rather happen with informal  agreement.
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April 22, 2023, 04:05:41 PM
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This whole predicting a possible outcome on games to win some kind of rewards, either money or some gadgets is a marketing strategy used by many casino to actually lure their customers to predict the games for free and maybe eventually putting their money in their next time prediction and its very effective in Africa because most people just get interested by these kinds of free offers but if am to classify this act I wouldn't called it gambling but a promo on gambling.
It's clearly not gambling if the app or game allows you to play fantasy sports without putting in any money. It will obviously be gambling if they let you access a few features for free and then ask for money in order to use the other features, but since OP didn't mention anything like that, I don't think that is the case with it.

A casino that offers free bets is a very different thing, you are right that some casinos do that to promote their services but this doesn't sound like that to me, and casinos wouldn't allow you to withdraw any money in my opinion even if you win from the free bets.

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April 22, 2023, 04:14:21 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
If you get money it is gambling i think. Even if you don`t spend your money. But when you don`t risk your money, you feel other emotions. Without risk it is to easy to bet but the same time it is dull enough, when you lose nothing. I make sometimes such predictions for free - it really dull without risk and it doesn`t matter shall i get money for it or not.

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April 22, 2023, 04:28:24 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

You can’t properly tell it or term it as “Gambling”, as in gambling, you have to take risk and bet with your own money. In gambling there are equal possibilities to win as well as lose and that too money that is in risk. But here as you are saying, you can pick a bet for free or make predictions for free and then can win money. This can be said as contest, or basic lottery or raffle without entry fees. I haven’t personally tested the site, so don’t know what their motive of giving away free money. Willing to hear other people’s opinion on this.
Me too has never heard the site before, not until today and might be researching on it later. Well, maybe what the site’s offer is not really gambling, it’s more like just a guessing game and you make rewards after you guess it right. While in gambling, it always involves money wagering, since you have to bet and wager a minimum amount and expect a win or lose in the end. Anything that does not involves money may not be considered gambling in the first place.
Sanitough just a point to note, not all gambling involve money of course a newly registered account may qualify for some welcome bonuses and if the player is lucky there will be big wins and from that, the player can continue playing, from there to win more or lose to the house, it good enough that we have welcomed bonuses so the gambler must not likely have to wait till deposit before playing some games.
But the intention to gamble is for winning and anything outside that I can say count me out, but likely not all gambling requires deposits.

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Have never heard of this site and it says 'Access denied' just like some of the posters above mentioned when I tried accessing it. There has to be a catch op since they aren't some sort of charity giving away free money.

Coming to your query, I wouldn't call it gambling since you aren't risking anything in order to win something. Such offers are usually scams though.

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April 22, 2023, 04:29:12 PM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
If you get money it is gambling i think. Even if you don`t spend your money. But when you don`t risk your money, you feel other emotions. Without risk it is to easy to bet but the same time it is dull enough, when you lose nothing. I make sometimes such predictions for free - it really dull without risk and it doesn`t matter shall i get money for it or not.

When you get used to gambling everything is exciting when it involves to betting because you wont get challenged when there are no betting takes place. Even just watching a fight like boxing it is not that exciting like without you betting on the fighter. I think this is the reason why people got addicted to it meaning they wont enjoy a game without gambling
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That question needs an answer OP.

On the other hand, this site collects privileged information and sells it by expanding the reference framework, bets.

Connsequently there are unsuspecting people can begin to fall into a sector that they do not dominate because they believe that they do not bet or invest money.

Call it playmoney... Casinos offer that.

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April 22, 2023, 05:55:20 PM
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Have never heard of this site and it says 'Access denied' just like some of the posters above mentioned when I tried accessing it. There has to be a catch op since they aren't some sort of charity giving away free money.

Coming to your query, I wouldn't call it gambling since you aren't risking anything in order to win something. Such offers are usually scams though.
Maybe it can be said as a giveaway, because here we don't need to risk money, or it can also be called a lucky contest.
You are right, if there is such an offer, it is closer to a scam. The reason is, logically it is impossible for someone to continue to give gifts without us spending a penny. If it happened once or twice it might still make sense, but if it keeps happening, to be honest I don't think it's really real. But if there really is, why not.  Grin Grin

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April 22, 2023, 08:12:31 PM
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Somehow, yes i'd say it still falls under gambling since helps you improve your predicting skills which is what you'll need when you start gambling, and that could even possibly encourage or trigger you to gamble with money in the future.

Sorry but it does not make sense to me.  So are you saying that researching is also a gambling because it also improve your predicting skills? And also is watching people gambling can be also considered a gambling because it encourages you to gamble? 

I've seen a similar promotion done by other sportsbooks as well so that made it easier for me to include it as gambling.

I think the major factor to include an activity as a gambling is the presence of stake and not because of similar promotion done by other sportsbook.

Have never heard of this site and it says 'Access denied' just like some of the posters above mentioned when I tried accessing it. There has to be a catch op since they aren't some sort of charity giving away free money.

Coming to your query, I wouldn't call it gambling since you aren't risking anything in order to win something. Such offers are usually scams though.
Maybe it can be said as a giveaway, because here we don't need to risk money, or it can also be called a lucky contest.

I agree, it is more logical to say that it is a giveaway than saying it is a gambling when there is no need to wager any amount of money to put on stake.

You are right, if there is such an offer, it is closer to a scam. The reason is, logically it is impossible for someone to continue to give gifts without us spending a penny. If it happened once or twice it might still make sense, but if it keeps happening, to be honest I don't think it's really real. But if there really is, why not.  Grin Grin

I think it depends, if the promotion give the platform players where they earn profit from losses, then they can maintain their giveaway.  Just like how other gambling platform continuously giving airdrops/rain or giveaway codes.
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It involves gambling but it's not as risky as wagering and staking but it still has to do with your whole gambling journey. You're just being rewarded through predictions but you wouldn't be needing to risk your funds so it isn't totally gambling but just contributing and participating in their event. However, it's the site's way to attract more players because it will trigger curiosity and interest in gamblers.
Not too risky? as ralle14 said that it is risky to trigger people to try betting using real money when predicting with free money the results are always right and that person realizes that he has the potential to bet with his own money and get big results.
Like the first time I gambled because I played poker gambling in an application using free money and finally I was triggered to try gambling using my own money.
But that's just my own opinion.
You are correct. This is why there are promotions in each casinos (free bets, faucets and etc... this is to excite the player and eventually bet on their own money. If you are wiser than them, you will not deposit your money because you already know where it will lead but I don't think I can resist it (to be a free loader).

I always feel guilty so I just deposit small amounts rarely as a way of showing support to the casino. Other than what we said earlier, casinos need to give tiny amounts of free money because they will lose if they will give higher amounts and the whole idea of opening a gambling business will never make sense anymore.

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Have never heard of this site and it says 'Access denied' just like some of the posters above mentioned when I tried accessing it. There has to be a catch op since they aren't some sort of charity giving away free money.

Coming to your query, I wouldn't call it gambling since you aren't risking anything in order to win something. Such offers are usually scams though.
Maybe it can be said as a giveaway, because here we don't need to risk money, or it can also be called a lucky contest.
You are right, if there is such an offer, it is closer to a scam. The reason is, logically it is impossible for someone to continue to give gifts without us spending a penny. If it happened once or twice it might still make sense, but if it keeps happening, to be honest I don't think it's really real. But if there really is, why not.  Grin Grin
wait a minute, maybe a site provides a place to predict for free and get a real prize, but when the prediction is all right and deserves the money, maybe the customer is asked to deposit a few dollars to pay a fee. this is an old scam scheme. Cheesy
I'm still a little skeptical of things that look free but in the end have to pay to get our winnings. lol

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April 22, 2023, 09:57:59 PM
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Sorry but it does not make sense to me.  So are you saying that researching is also a gambling because it also improve your predicting skills? And also is watching people gambling can be also considered a gambling because it encourages you to gamble? 
Obviously watching and researching alone doesn't mean you're gambling, when others get good at predicting it can mislead them into thinking they can apply it to gambling with ease. What i'm trying to point out in my earlier post is that it's close enough to be called gambling because they're almost identical as you go through a similar process, and for sportsbooks, it's one way for them to slowly lure in new players and possibly convert them to regular players in the future. Some gambling sites even do it in other games like poker as they regularly host freeroll tournaments.

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