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April 22, 2023, 10:04:51 PM |
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In my opinion.
Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.
So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.
I agree with this- sometimes, gambling is not all about money. As long as there is a risk involved and you invested other than money, then it may be considered as "gambling" within this kind of definition. Generally when we think about gambling, what comes into our mind is the wagering of money/resources in a casino, whether physical or online. But what most fail to realize that when you also decide to engage into something, you also gamble/wager your time in devoting something. It may not be considered as "gambling" in the traditional sense but it is considered as such within its definition.
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tiCeR
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April 22, 2023, 10:13:26 PM |
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In my opinion.
Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.
So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.
I agree with this- sometimes, gambling is not all about money. As long as there is a risk involved and you invested other than money, then it may be considered as "gambling" within this kind of definition. Generally when we think about gambling, what comes into our mind is the wagering of money/resources in a casino, whether physical or online. But what most fail to realize that when you also decide to engage into something, you also gamble/wager your time in devoting something. It may not be considered as "gambling" in the traditional sense but it is considered as such within its definition. But in its broadest sense you could also calculate opportunity cost as money. The scope of the discussion becomes somewhat narrow when we say that money is only involved when I hand over a 5 dollar bill. But if I gamble for a pair of shoes of mine and I lose, I also lost money. Or if I gamble and I owe someone help with some work when I lose, perhaps two hours of work, I could have used those two hours to earn money for myself or for whomever. Talking about money takes away a bit of substance from the interesting part of the question. Is it still gambling when I have essentially zero input and nothing to lose because I am not putting anything on the line? Time would be negligible when we say that you could just pick a number of a dice and then roll it. That costs you two seconds and we don't need to talk about opportunity costs. But if it's a very fierce competition where you have to do research for hours or even days and compete with others, there is essentially money involved, but in a more hidden way.
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Wiwo
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April 22, 2023, 10:37:02 PM |
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Sorry but it does not make sense to me. So are you saying that researching is also a gambling because it also improve your predicting skills? And also is watching people gambling can be also considered a gambling because it encourages you to gamble?
Obviously watching and researching alone doesn't mean you're gambling, when others get good at predicting it can mislead them into thinking they can apply it to gambling with ease. What i'm trying to point out in my earlier post is that it's close enough to be called gambling because they're almost identical as you go through a similar process, and for sportsbooks, it's one way for them to slowly lure in new players and possibly convert them to regular players in the future. Some gambling sites even do it in other games like poker as they regularly host freeroll tournaments. I think we should try to separate gambling and gamling motivations because if you say researching about games or watching footbal matches is also gambling it then means participating in the signature that promotes a casino could also be seen as gambling too, and if that be the case I will say that we have had grave misconceptions on the subject of discussion right here. It's possible to gamble without money but it is impossible to become a gambler in proxy, so get some straight in here.
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Helena Yu
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April 23, 2023, 09:20:36 AM |
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I think we should try to separate gambling and gamling motivations because if you say researching about games or watching footbal matches is also gambling it then means participating in the signature that promotes a casino could also be seen as gambling too, and if that be the case I will say that we have had grave misconceptions on the subject of discussion right here.
It's possible to gamble without money but it is impossible to become a gambler in proxy, so get some straight in here.
Predicting which team will win in football match is gambling but if you watch the football match and supporting your favorite team, it's not gambling because your main intention is different with gambling. Participating in the signature campaign that promote casino isn't gambling, but you're received money from gambling or people who're losses. Participating in a bounty without escrow can be said as gambling because there's no guarantee you will get your payment.
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April 23, 2023, 10:27:56 AM |
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Gambling is gambling
You can gamble with Your Life.
You can gamble with your house or cars.
You can gamble with anything valuable.
You can gamble with your crypto assets.
You can gamble with anything you want, it doesn't have to be money, and not using money to gamble doesn't make it less of a gamble, Prediction is also a gamble.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money? if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money? According to Wikipedia, Gambling (also known as betting) is the wagering of something of value on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value. And then how can we define "Something of value"? "Something of value" can be defined as something that is useful and important, and likewise is our prediction very important and useful. Because according to "Superpick" it offers a system whereby anyone who could predict the correct scores of 6 football match will get a reward of 100 million naira ($136,930), of which I don't see why if someone could only predict and win such huge sum of money, why that can't be classified as gambling. Because just as our regular casino requires money to execute gambling, Superpick only requires you to predict only 6 correct score of a football match to win ($136,930) weekly. And I bet you, it's very impossible to win such prediction.
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April 23, 2023, 11:21:43 AM |
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Never heard it or the site. My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Yes, remember you can bet things and win things, or anything that has value based on your point of view or current demand of the things you think has value. Sure it's not money but that could be converted to money once sold, or whatever you do to that.
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April 23, 2023, 12:17:36 PM |
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Never heard it or the site. My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Yes, remember you can bet things and win things, or anything that has value based on your point of view or current demand of the things you think has value. Sure it's not money but that could be converted to money once sold, or whatever you do to that. As long as we use something to bet on, it is gambling. We can bet on anything to get anything else and that includes gambling. Indeed it does not use money, but we are risking something to get something else. We often see children betting to get something with their friends. But perhaps if he just predicts and doesn't do anything about what he predicts, it's not gambling because he's just guessing.
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April 23, 2023, 12:52:16 PM |
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If the matter is a guess, that cannot be called gambling, or it depends on the belief of a gambler, maybe if the gambler believes in gambling, it can be said that it is still gambling. But even so, it is difficult to know if you will win gambling, in short unpredictable whether you will be lucky or not the day you gamble in a casino here in cryptocurrency. Then I didn't trip those Superpicks to gamble.
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Haunebu
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April 23, 2023, 01:03:10 PM |
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Maybe it can be said as a giveaway, because here we don't need to risk money, or it can also be called a lucky contest.
Giveaway does make complete sense here. I wouldn't waste my time with unpopular site giveaways though like 1xbit etc where you are not guaranteed to receive your winnings after participating. None of these promotions by legit/scam sites are equivalent to gambling though since you aren't risking anything.
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April 23, 2023, 01:16:02 PM |
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money? if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money? Hmm, technically speaking "gambling" means to risk something while deciding on an action, and this "something" can be anything really, but the most basic form most people use as a part of entertainment is money, but it can technically still be something else, something like punishment games or something, but it's a "pre-requisite", meaning it's something required. It may vary depending on how you'd define gambling, but considering what I said, then no, it's not gambling without anything at risk (not just money). It's a giveaway at that point, certainly wouldn't call it gambling otherwise a LOT of people (especialyl social media influencers) are in trouble for doing giveaways.
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April 23, 2023, 01:19:17 PM |
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money? if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money? You are betting something to happen and then expecting a reward for it then it's a gamble. Even if you are not actually putting up anything for the bet even then it would be gamble. Heard in a movie once where they said everything in this world is a gamble. Even our day job is a gamble where we put our hard work in place of a bet and expect our salary by the month end then it's a gamble.
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April 23, 2023, 02:05:40 PM |
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Maybe it can be said as a giveaway, because here we don't need to risk money, or it can also be called a lucky contest. You are right, if there is such an offer, it is closer to a scam. The reason is, logically it is impossible for someone to continue to give gifts without us spending a penny. If it happened once or twice it might still make sense, but if it keeps happening, to be honest I don't think it's really real. But if there really is, why not. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) wait a minute, maybe a site provides a place to predict for free and get a real prize, but when the prediction is all right and deserves the money, maybe the customer is asked to deposit a few dollars to pay a fee. this is an old scam scheme. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'm still a little skeptical of things that look free but in the end have to pay to get our winnings. lol Even in that scenario, it will still not make your experience gambling or make it gambling since what you did, didn't really involve any money, and if you are asked for money at the end, that will surely make it a scam or it might even not be a scam but genuinely needs fees from players to pay for the transactions paid to the winners. But, it will most probably be considered a scam if this wasn't initially said or shown that whoever wins, will have to pay for the transaction fees, etc. If they let you know in the beginning and have it in their terms and conditions, then they are not a scam.
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Have never heard of this site and it says 'Access denied' just like some of the posters above mentioned when I tried accessing it. There has to be a catch op since they aren't some sort of charity giving away free money.
Coming to your query, I wouldn't call it gambling since you aren't risking anything in order to win something. Such offers are usually scams though.
Maybe it can be said as a giveaway, because here we don't need to risk money, or it can also be called a lucky contest. You are right, if there is such an offer, it is closer to a scam. The reason is, logically it is impossible for someone to continue to give gifts without us spending a penny. If it happened once or twice it might still make sense, but if it keeps happening, to be honest I don't think it's really real. But if there really is, why not. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) wait a minute, maybe a site provides a place to predict for free and get a real prize, but when the prediction is all right and deserves the money, maybe the customer is asked to deposit a few dollars to pay a fee. this is an old scam scheme. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'm still a little skeptical of things that look free but in the end have to pay to get our winnings. lol That makes sense, because now nothing is free in life. If the end asks to deposit to withdraw after winning a prediction, what's the difference with us depositing first and making a bet. There are many ways that fraudsters do in their modus operandi, it continues to develop over time. Don't think that fraudsters are not smart, in fact they are smarter if we are tempted by the offers they give. Now we have to be really smart in seeing things that are beyond logic, otherwise we will be easily fooled by offers like this.
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April 23, 2023, 04:51:36 PM |
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In this concept a person do everything for gamble except using own money. Some one getting chance to gamble for free. So it is consider as gambling. It doesn't matter where the money comes from. Maybe initially you will get a little discount like bonus but at some point you will definitely be inspired to deposit. This is how you can get totally involved in gambling at some point. So I can't treat it differently. Moreover, why they give you free, what is their benefit? They will teach you initially and later you will manage it yourself.
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April 23, 2023, 07:10:29 PM |
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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Money is not the only thing that can be put at risk or at stake to be considered gambling. Maybe we can rephrase the question into "Can it still be called gambling if we don't have to put anything at risk at all" or something along those lines. Checking the website mentioned, it's clear that the game is "Free to Play" although not digging yet some details as for sure there are lots of "footnotes" there as part of the Terms and Conditions. More likely, just the same as how "free contest" events go.
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April 23, 2023, 07:22:10 PM |
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money? if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money? Well, for me, I think gambling is gambling, whether it involved money or not, I said this because I could remember way back when I was still a kid, me and my sister, plus some other good friends, would gather and play several games, just to bear "the winner" title, we usually don't spend a dime on those games, but the fun we always have playing the game some times, is much more than it would have been had it been that money was involved. The truth remains that, for some games, money have removed the real fun that used to be in such game.
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April 23, 2023, 08:13:24 PM |
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money? if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money? You are betting something to happen and then expecting a reward for it then it's a gamble. Even if you are not actually putting up anything for the bet even then it would be gamble. Heard in a movie once where they said everything in this world is a gamble. Even our day job is a gamble where we put our hard work in place of a bet and expect our salary by the month end then it's a gamble. The difference is that in a job you are not playing a game of chance nor a game of skill just to win a prize, you got a fixed reward and is included in the contract that will assure you of getting something fix or you know the amount you will be receiving in the end. Unlike in gambling that you don't know whether you will win a prize or not. If you take gambling that way, then life itself is a gamble which is proven to be not the case. It is cleared that there are set of parameters to be able to identify which is gambling and which is not. Even in legal documents states that the present of the so called stake or bet is what separate gambling from gaming which many of us are confused of.
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April 23, 2023, 09:30:31 PM |
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money? if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money? Honestly, that’s new to my ears. But I will try to take a good research on it so that I will know on how it’s game is really played. However, I don’t think gambling can happen without putting money at stake or wagering an amount that you’re willing to lose. One thing I know about gambling is that you will gain an income if you won, so if there’s no money involved, how will you make a good amount of winnings from it? If that’s the case, I don’t think gambling will still be interesting as it is.
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April 23, 2023, 09:50:59 PM |
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There might be no risk of losing here since there’s no money involve, I still consider this as gambling as you play with the casinos games, because for me it looks like you are just learning how the site works and you will try it with real money sooner or later. This could be just a marketing strategy, which played on your emotion and making you feel the excitement of gambling, better to be careful with this.
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