Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[CarnagexD]

I have had a lot of stories about YouTubers using fake money to gamble and win a lot but then we can't prove how real those game seasons are because since those videos are created to advertise one casino or the other, they may manipulate games just favour the influencer during video session.

if the YouTuber has collaborated with the casino, usually the winnings on that account have been set from the casino. and it will show the success of the YouTuber by generating lots of wins from the casino. it's solely to attract new players more interested, although I'm sure some are already aware and know that it's just a victory set.
YouTubers also sometimes benefit from the referral code that they share through the videos they upload.

That could be the possible realities of things at this moment, because I have hard from multiple sources that those winning on YouTube are manipulated just to attract players and making them thinks that it is easy to win in those casino and also make a plur just to get players trapped at whatever point, since the system is the games she'd by influencers differs from the real games on the casinos.

This is why, it only those casinos with less reputation and low revenues generation means to engage the services of a YouTuber when the casino reputation is exacerbated.

exactly, they make money not by betting, gambling, playing the game but by affiliation. By putting links on their videos that will gone viral. They will get commissions and referral codes..

Since there is no money gambling, I wouldn't consider it gambling at first. But whenever you make predictions from this website and participate in gambling with those predictions, I will consider it as gambling. Because from here a strong desire to participate in gambling will awaken.

Not sure if you are contradicting yourself here or I just failed to get your point! You said you don't consider it gambling because no money is at risk but then you said it's gambling. This is confusing!
Anyway, I read the last few replies and am a bit surprised that no one talked about the affiliation of this website with the shady casino BetKing! Not sure if no one have noticed it (although I warned about it in an previous reply) or people just don't care!

when you put risk in a probabilistic outcome you're gambling. whether you put real money or not, it's gambling. The effects only reflect to your bank account. If you put real money and you win, you earn it. If you did not put money and took a loss, then you won't lose any monetary value. The heart of gambling is taking and accepting risks involve.

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That could be the possible realities of things at this moment, because I have hard from multiple sources that those winning on YouTube are manipulated just to attract players and making them thinks that it is easy to win in those casino and also make a plur just to get players trapped at whatever point, since the system is the games she'd by influencers differs from the real games on the casinos.

This is why, it only those casinos with less reputation and low revenues generation means to engage the services of a YouTuber when the casino reputation is exacerbated.

I've heard several times from people that influencers who livestream them gamble and get big wins using accounts that are provided directly by the casino so accounts are designed to always give big wins.
Here, all the capital and accounts that provide the casino so that influencers do their job, namely playing and broadcasting Livestreaming to be able to attract gamblers to want to enter the casino and register there.
Whether this kind of case occurs in the crypto gambling industry or not? , for fiat online casinos, things like this are a natural thing to happen.

This is their effort or way of doing promotions because that way there will be curiosity and interest from gamblers to try the casino that is used by these influencers.

[wiss19]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

I have never heard or seen your website before. But as you said here I tried to sign up but failed. The country code of my country is not given here due to which I could not create an account here.

It's pretty clear from the currency mentioned on the website (Naira) that the website is only available for users from Nigeria, and there is only one country code available on the sign up page which is Nigeria's, so us international users are not welcomed on the platform for some reason. Anyway, though I don't spend much time on these things, I might have given it a try if I was allowed.

And, I don't really think that a person who plays a free fantasy game or a free predictor game to win cash prizes will suddenly have the urge to start gambling with real money knowing they can lose money that way and this way they can earn for free and lose nothing even if their predictions go wrong.

[benalexis12]

We must return this to the notion of gambling which involves betting in a game. So in general if a game is without betting then it cannot be said to be gambling in my opinion, because it goes back to the basic understanding of gambling itself. And I agree that gambling carries risks, and if there is nothing at stake then what risks will we get, because we don't bet anything and will not lose anything from that game.
However, if it is based on personal opinion, of course there will always be different opinions from one to another.

Didn't gambling start back then when money was not created yet and other things were paid when a gambler lost? Because I remembered when I was young, I was still in elementary school, when I was playing with my friends in the text card battle of marvels super heroes, when I won, I got a card instead of winning and when I accumulated a lot of cards, I sell cards to my opponents or teammates to make money for a small coin.

[o48o]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

It's not gambling if you look at the definiton but at the moment you are getting money from the place you linkeed and and gambling it again it's definitely gamblng. Also it's known that people can get hooked on playing without money. I've encountered those cases when i was reading about addiction. It's not as dangerous addiction but it sure takes time. Sometimes even more time. Some casinos study these people and their gambling habits to understand more about hooking the customers.

[Shamm]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

It's not gambling if you look at the definiton but at the moment you are getting money from the place you linkeed and and gambling it again it's definitely gamblng. Also it's known that people can get hooked on playing without money. I've encountered those cases when i was reading about addiction. It's not as dangerous addiction but it sure takes time. Sometimes even more time. Some casinos study these people and their gambling habits to understand more about hooking the customers.

For me without money it's called sport and not gambling because the main reason why A habit or a scenario called gambling is that it involves money which is we are all know that in gambling if we have enough money then we can play a lot of games and put our bet in that. but it will Matters in our luck because without our luck in our side then we can not win in our bet because in gambling prediction is not perfect.

[Casdinyard]

Something could only be considered gambling if an equal or a placeholder of a value is put at stake in exchange of something with a higher valuation as a form of reward. With these Siperpicks as uou put it, that’s not really the case considering you don’t really put anything up in line, not even a single penny. And I’m quite interested to know how their whole business model looks too, because there’s no way in hell they’re anlento pay customers and winners like that without getting the money from somewhere, unless this is a money laundering scheme meant to ensure that those money are cleaned and not put into his name, quite possibly be put into the care of specific winners of whom the funder have connections with. I might just be spitballing here but there’s more to how these people could reward their players, and beyond the whole premise of a “betless” gamble, I think the manner at which they get the momey is much more important.

[maydna]

For me without money it's called sport and not gambling because the main reason why A habit or a scenario called gambling is that it involves money which is we are all know that in gambling if we have enough money then we can play a lot of games and put our bet in that. but it will Matters in our luck because without our luck in our side then we can not win in our bet because in gambling prediction is not perfect.

But if the prize is an item or something else that can replace money, isn't that the same as gambling? We often do this, don't we? For example, if you lose in completing a job, you must treat your friends to a drink or a meal. You and your friends are competing to finish the job on time so you can be the winner. Sometimes the position of this money is replaced by something else, so it doesn't look like gambling, and we often do this in our daily lives. But maybe it's not gambling for you, and that's normal.

[serjent05]

For me without money it's called sport and not gambling because the main reason why A habit or a scenario called gambling is that it involves money which is we are all know that in gambling if we have enough money then we can play a lot of games and put our bet in that. but it will Matters in our luck because without our luck in our side then we can not win in our bet because in gambling prediction is not perfect.

But if the prize is an item or something else that can replace money, isn't that the same as gambling? We often do this, don't we? For example, if you lose in completing a job, you must treat your friends to a drink or a meal. You and your friends are competing to finish the job on time so you can be the winner. Sometimes the position of this money is replaced by something else, so it doesn't look like gambling, and we often do this in our daily lives. But maybe it's not gambling for you, and that's normal.

Gambling gives more weight on the stake.  If it is the prize that determines gambling then, beauty pageant and any competition that has rewards and awards can be called gambling which is not the case.  There is a huge difference between competition and gambling, you can refer to this quoted message for the difference:

Gambling involves wagering money or something of value on an event with an uncertain outcome, with the hope of winning a larger sum of money or prize. The outcome of gambling is determined largely by chance and luck, rather than skill or effort. Examples of gambling activities include casino games like slot machines, roulette, and blackjack, as well as sports betting and lotteries.

Competition, on the other hand, involves individuals or teams striving to achieve a goal or win a prize through skill and effort. The outcome of a competition is generally determined by the performance of the participants, rather than chance or luck. Examples of competitive activities include sports, contests, and games that require skill and strategy, such as chess or poker.

While both gambling and competition may involve a degree of risk and reward, the main difference between them is the extent to which skill and effort play a role in determining the outcome.

[lienfaye]

For me without money it's called sport and not gambling because the main reason why A habit or a scenario called gambling is that it involves money which is we are all know that in gambling if we have enough money then we can play a lot of games and put our bet in that. but it will Matters in our luck because without our luck in our side then we can not win in our bet because in gambling prediction is not perfect.

But if the prize is an item or something else that can replace money, isn't that the same as gambling? We often do this, don't we? For example, if you lose in completing a job, you must treat your friends to a drink or a meal. You and your friends are competing to finish the job on time so you can be the winner. Sometimes the position of this money is replaced by something else, so it doesn't look like gambling, and we often do this in our daily lives. But maybe it's not gambling for you, and that's normal.

Your example is considered as gambling because you have something to lose (regardless of if it is money or not) since you'll treat your friends for being the one who lose the bet. It is also quite common for us to have bet with family or friends in something but it doesn't involve money directly as the price, it's still gambling.

However, if the prize is replaced by money, but you'll not lose anything if ever you didn't win then it is not gambling. The prediction contest without asking you to risk your money is like a giveaway though the chance to win is slim.

[NicNacCoin]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I tried to enter the Superpicks website you provided and confirmed it is a Prediction website. I can't say for sure if this website can be compared to gambling website but in some cases it can be called gambling website.
It's great to hear that it's offering a completely free service but the free service doesn't last long. People are more interested in websites for free services. It might be an important trick to promote their website.

[Jody.Drummer]

We must return this to the notion of gambling which involves betting in a game. So in general if a game is without betting then it cannot be said to be gambling in my opinion, because it goes back to the basic understanding of gambling itself. And I agree that gambling carries risks, and if there is nothing at stake then what risks will we get, because we don't bet anything and will not lose anything from that game.
However, if it is based on personal opinion, of course there will always be different opinions from one to another.

Didn't gambling start back then when money was not created yet and other things were paid when a gambler lost? Because I remembered when I was young, I was still in elementary school, when I was playing with my friends in the text card battle of marvels super heroes, when I won, I got a card instead of winning and when I accumulated a lot of cards, I sell cards to my opponents or teammates to make money for a small coin.

That is clearly different, the focus is when there are betting objects that can be categorized as gambling and what you do with the games you did when you were small is clearly the betting is about cards, not where the losers have to give to the winners?
There is a media that is a hero card there that is at stake which allows you to get an advantage when you win and have to lose if you lose.
That is clearly different from what the OP said because indeed in this case it is only about how we guess correctly and get profits but if we are wrong it doesn't have any impact.

[maydna]

Gambling involves wagering money or something of value on an event with an uncertain outcome, with the hope of winning a larger sum of money or prize. The outcome of gambling is determined largely by chance and luck, rather than skill or effort. Examples of gambling activities include casino games like slot machines, roulette, and blackjack, as well as sports betting and lotteries.

Competition, on the other hand, involves individuals or teams striving to achieve a goal or win a prize through skill and effort. The outcome of a competition is generally determined by the performance of the participants, rather than chance or luck. Examples of competitive activities include sports, contests, and games that require skill and strategy, such as chess or poker.

While both gambling and competition may involve a degree of risk and reward, the main difference between them is the extent to which skill and effort play a role in determining the outcome.

Well, perhaps that has a point. But I think you also know what I mean about gambling

Some even say that life is a gamble because we don't know whether our efforts now can give us good results or whether we will fail and try again. I got it from chatting with several people about life, gambling, effort, and the results obtained.

Maybe there is a fine line between gambling and competition that you mean so that some say it is gambling while others say it is not. And many of us say that it isn't gambling as long as it doesn't involve money.

Your example is considered as gambling because you have something to lose (regardless of if it is money or not) since you'll treat your friends for being the one who lose the bet. It is also quite common for us to have bet with family or friends in something but it doesn't involve money directly as the price, it's still gambling.

However, if the prize is replaced by money, but you'll not lose anything if ever you didn't win then it is not gambling. The prediction contest without asking you to risk your money is like a giveaway though the chance to win is slim.

Well, I think so because sometimes I am in a situation like that. Maybe not for those who have never or rarely been in the same situation. But I don't know. People have different perceptions about this. Perhaps, it seems that it depends on the object or subject so that it can be categorized as gambling or competition.

[CarnagexD]

We must return this to the notion of gambling which involves betting in a game. So in general if a game is without betting then it cannot be said to be gambling in my opinion, because it goes back to the basic understanding of gambling itself. And I agree that gambling carries risks, and if there is nothing at stake then what risks will we get, because we don't bet anything and will not lose anything from that game.
However, if it is based on personal opinion, of course there will always be different opinions from one to another.

Didn't gambling start back then when money was not created yet and other things were paid when a gambler lost? Because I remembered when I was young, I was still in elementary school, when I was playing with my friends in the text card battle of marvels super heroes, when I won, I got a card instead of winning and when I accumulated a lot of cards, I sell cards to my opponents or teammates to make money for a small coin.

That is clearly different, the focus is when there are betting objects that can be categorized as gambling and what you do with the games you did when you were small is clearly the betting is about cards, not where the losers have to give to the winners?
There is a media that is a hero card there that is at stake which allows you to get an advantage when you win and have to lose if you lose.
That is clearly different from what the OP said because indeed in this case it is only about how we guess correctly and get profits but if we are wrong it doesn't have any impact.

Well for me, as long as you are taking risks and only relying on the whole outcome to the occurrence of luck and uncertainty. It is gambling. Money is just a tool. A great tool. like how we use to trade coins, assets, and properties. When you bet it without properly analyzing your edge and the outcome. When you don't have any control of the process but just bet one side over the other. It is gambling. You take risks with the hopes of greater returns. The more you bet, the greater accountability you must have.

[Mauser]

Something could only be considered gambling if an equal or a placeholder of a value is put at stake in exchange of something with a higher valuation as a form of reward. With these Siperpicks as uou put it, that’s not really the case considering you don’t really put anything up in line, not even a single penny. And I’m quite interested to know how their whole business model looks too, because there’s no way in hell they’re anlento pay customers and winners like that without getting the money from somewhere, unless this is a money laundering scheme meant to ensure that those money are cleaned and not put into his name, quite possibly be put into the care of specific winners of whom the funder have connections with. I might just be spitballing here but there’s more to how these people could reward their players, and beyond the whole premise of a “betless” gamble, I think the manner at which they get the momey is much more important.

Just because we don't have to spend any money doesn't mean it's not gambling. In my opinion it's the games itself that qualify for being gambling or just games and sports. For example if a casino offers us free spins, or a bookmaker offers us free bets, wouldn't you call it gambling then? We can still win money from it, only it's free because of a promotion. The casino will try to get customers interested in their games and once the free games run out they will have to pay for it. I would rather describe anything that involves chance and randomness that leads to a profit as gambling. Also the casino have other sources of revenue like advertising to make a profit and let the gamblers play for free some minor games. With revenues the casino can't exist, but they also need to attract new customers on a regular basis to offset any regular gamblers leaving the casino.

[Jody.Drummer]

We must return this to the notion of gambling which involves betting in a game. So in general if a game is without betting then it cannot be said to be gambling in my opinion, because it goes back to the basic understanding of gambling itself. And I agree that gambling carries risks, and if there is nothing at stake then what risks will we get, because we don't bet anything and will not lose anything from that game.
However, if it is based on personal opinion, of course there will always be different opinions from one to another.

Didn't gambling start back then when money was not created yet and other things were paid when a gambler lost? Because I remembered when I was young, I was still in elementary school, when I was playing with my friends in the text card battle of marvels super heroes, when I won, I got a card instead of winning and when I accumulated a lot of cards, I sell cards to my opponents or teammates to make money for a small coin.

That is clearly different, the focus is when there are betting objects that can be categorized as gambling and what you do with the games you did when you were small is clearly the betting is about cards, not where the losers have to give to the winners?
There is a media that is a hero card there that is at stake which allows you to get an advantage when you win and have to lose if you lose.
That is clearly different from what the OP said because indeed in this case it is only about how we guess correctly and get profits but if we are wrong it doesn't have any impact.

Well for me, as long as you are taking risks and only relying on the whole outcome to the occurrence of luck and uncertainty. It is gambling. Money is just a tool. A great tool. like how we use to trade coins, assets, and properties. When you bet it without properly analyzing your edge and the outcome. When you don't have any control of the process but just bet one side over the other. It is gambling. You take risks with the hopes of greater returns. The more you bet, the greater accountability you must have.

What you say is true and I also understand that but that is too broad in my opinion.
We all know that when we talk about gambling, indeed money or goods at stake are tools used to support that can be said about gambling, but on the other hand, we must focus on the initial thread so that the focus does not spread anywhere.

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

Our focus is still here. it doesn't matter when we bet and we are responsible I know that but on the other hand we are still talking about predictions without money but if we win we will get a reward there, don't go beyond that.

[danadc]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I tried to enter the Superpicks website you provided and confirmed it is a Prediction website. I can't say for sure if this website can be compared to gambling website but in some cases it can be called gambling website.
It's great to hear that it's offering a completely free service but the free service doesn't last long. People are more interested in websites for free services. It might be an important trick to promote their website.

I like these things a lot, especially if they are about betting, I don't know how good they are for predictions, I've been learning a lot about boxing, there are some events that turn out to be very relevant and that's where very good bets can be triggered, I like this because it is an option to be able to earn big money, I have not Decided, but I have seen Statistics and they are very promising, I want them to be at the top to be able to place my bets, this site does have its own analysis, I am interested To be Able to bet, it is Good to Have more than 1 Opinion.

[tusandii]

Your example is considered as gambling because you have something to lose (regardless of if it is money or not) since you'll treat your friends for being the one who lose the bet. It is also quite common for us to have bet with family or friends in something but it doesn't involve money directly as the price, it's still gambling.

However, if the prize is replaced by money, but you'll not lose anything if ever you didn't win then it is not gambling. The prediction contest without asking you to risk your money is like a giveaway though the chance to win is slim.

Well, I think so because sometimes I am in a situation like that. Maybe not for those who have never or rarely been in the same situation. But I don't know. People have different perceptions about this. Perhaps, it seems that it depends on the object or subject so that it can be categorized as gambling or competition.

I agree with what @lienfaye has said because anything that risks goods or money with the aim of multiplying is gambling.
But on the other hand, it is also true that everyone's perceptions must be different on this matter because everyone's thoughts will never be the same.
It's just that the name of risking anything if you have the opportunity to lose and also gain is the same as gambling.
If you say competition doesn't make sense because it's risking for the sake of profit.
In gambling or betting there is no word perception of competition that there only wins or loses except in business maybe it is more acceptable to say competition.

[mak013]

When there is no money involved , I think the only people who can have fun are those who have always played the play station, because when you played there you couldn't win, now on PS5 yes, there are many ways to monetize, that's good, and I I respect every point of view and what they think in each part of the world, but I am happy and it motivates me more when I bet with money involved because that risk that there is makes you have emotions, but the Important thing is to know how to play very well and to know each something that you have because if you start playing with money and without knowing it you will lose and it is not the idea either, the idea is that you can try to win.

We still have some people who play only the demo games that do not require them to make any deposits and that can be classified under this topic of discussion since the stake doesn't involve balance deduction even though those games are played in a casino.

But then to some other players, the potential winning rewards are their motivation, so playing those games that don't involve real stake and win seems to be a waste of time to them.

Yes, it really is a waste of time, but on many occasions I have played for real money at once and it has not gone well for me and what I have done is lose money, it happens to me a lot when they are games that I have not played. never played, I don't know, but one day happened to me with KENO, it's a game that if you don't know it and you start playing just for the sake of playing , you lose money , and I thought I wasn't going to lose anything, but things got out of hand and I started to losing and losing, until I said no more, and I stopped, that money that I lost in that game because I didn't understand how it is, I didn't get it back , I started playing the games that I did know.

It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?

[maydna]

Your example is considered as gambling because you have something to lose (regardless of if it is money or not) since you'll treat your friends for being the one who lose the bet. It is also quite common for us to have bet with family or friends in something but it doesn't involve money directly as the price, it's still gambling.

However, if the prize is replaced by money, but you'll not lose anything if ever you didn't win then it is not gambling. The prediction contest without asking you to risk your money is like a giveaway though the chance to win is slim.

Well, I think so because sometimes I am in a situation like that. Maybe not for those who have never or rarely been in the same situation. But I don't know. People have different perceptions about this. Perhaps, it seems that it depends on the object or subject so that it can be categorized as gambling or competition.

I agree with what @lienfaye has said because anything that risks goods or money with the aim of multiplying is gambling.
But on the other hand, it is also true that everyone's perceptions must be different on this matter because everyone's thoughts will never be the same.
It's just that the name of risking anything if you have the opportunity to lose and also gain is the same as gambling.
If you say competition doesn't make sense because it's risking for the sake of profit.
In gambling or betting there is no word perception of competition that there only wins or loses except in business maybe it is more acceptable to say competition.

I also agree with what he said because the name of betting could not only use money. And look around us, many people who have bet using many things and have fun doing it. I remember betting on the world cup or local football games with my cousins in school. And we don't use money because our parents forbade gambling. And even so, it already makes us happy to do it quietly