Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Your example is considered as gambling because you have something to lose (regardless of if it is money or not) since you'll treat your friends for being the one who lose the bet. It is also quite common for us to have bet with family or friends in something but it doesn't involve money directly as the price, it's still gambling.

However, if the prize is replaced by money, but you'll not lose anything if ever you didn't win then it is not gambling. The prediction contest without asking you to risk your money is like a giveaway though the chance to win is slim.

Well, I think so because sometimes I am in a situation like that. Maybe not for those who have never or rarely been in the same situation. But I don't know. People have different perceptions about this. Perhaps, it seems that it depends on the object or subject so that it can be categorized as gambling or competition.

I agree with what @lienfaye has said because anything that risks goods or money with the aim of multiplying is gambling.
But on the other hand, it is also true that everyone's perceptions must be different on this matter because everyone's thoughts will never be the same.
It's just that the name of risking anything if you have the opportunity to lose and also gain is the same as gambling.
If you say competition doesn't make sense because it's risking for the sake of profit.
In gambling or betting there is no word perception of competition that there only wins or loses except in business maybe it is more acceptable to say competition.

I also agree with what he said because the name of betting could not only use money. And look around us, many people who have bet using many things and have fun doing it. I remember betting on the world cup or local football games with my cousins in school. And we don't use money because our parents forbade gambling. And even so, it already makes us happy to do it quietly

Reminds me of my elementary School days, even though we were children then, we were still forbidden from gambling, and one might want to ask how we get money as children?
How we get money was easy, there are days we don't have what to eat in the morning before leaving for school, our parent will give us a small amount of money to buy food either on our way to school or during school break, some children save this money or part of it and use it to play games with their friends, for us (that is me and my siblings) we were clearly warned and forbidden from ever gambling) but still, we still enjoyed some games in the form of gambling, but we do not stake money so our parents don't see it as gambling.

[Victorybit1]

I think the free prediction is just another form of marketing. If everyone gamble for free, how will they make profit.
This could be for awhile after getting enough users or creating enough awareness, it won't be free.
However I'm trying this out, inviting others too. I love free predictions😀

[dezoel]

We must return this to the notion of gambling which involves betting in a game. So in general if a game is without betting then it cannot be said to be gambling in my opinion, because it goes back to the basic understanding of gambling itself. And I agree that gambling carries risks, and if there is nothing at stake then what risks will we get, because we don't bet anything and will not lose anything from that game.
However, if it is based on personal opinion, of course there will always be different opinions from one to another.

Didn't gambling start back then when money was not created yet and other things were paid when a gambler lost? Because I remembered when I was young, I was still in elementary school, when I was playing with my friends in the text card battle of marvels super heroes, when I won, I got a card instead of winning and when I accumulated a lot of cards, I sell cards to my opponents or teammates to make money for a small coin.

Yep, gambling is very old from its origin, initially, people used to bet assets or commodities or whatever they had since there were no currencies in those times, and gambling has been evolving ever since that, and today, we have got casinos available right at our fingertips in our mobile phones or laptops and we don't even need to go out to gamble anymore.

Some people who gamble just for fun among friends or cousins or relatives still use things as a wager for bets when they are making bets against each other on a certain match or something, and it is pretty fun.

[Wiwo]

It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?

Yes demo account is mainly for learners who want to play some free games without real time deposits on fake accounts,  but then in most cases the quality of the games are not the same with those that are played with real money,  since the winning is what excite many of us,  it's important to also note the place and role of having your bet at stake.

That alone increase the ability of the player to make the best decisions while playing the games,  and since there is a difference between free games and monetized games.

[Desmong]

I think the free prediction is just another form of marketing. If everyone gamble for free, how will they make profit.
This could be for awhile after getting enough users or creating enough awareness, it won't be free.
However I'm trying this out, inviting others too. I love free predictions😀

There are different ways people do utililize to get what they wants and it is just too obvious that we may not be aware of the various strategies we can use to make money as a gambler. Those who engage in referral are one of the people that do make money as a gambler without any stress at all. We may not know for now but it is always good for us to rapport with people do we can learn some of these method.

[Newlifebtc]

I think the free prediction is just another form of marketing. If everyone gamble for free, how will they make profit.
This could be for awhile after getting enough users or creating enough awareness, it won't be free.
However I'm trying this out, inviting others too. I love free predictions😀

There are different ways people do utililize to get what they wants and it is just too obvious that we may not be aware of the various strategies we can use to make money as a gambler. Those who engage in referral are one of the people that do make money as a gambler without any stress at all. We may not know for now but it is always good for us to rapport with people do we can learn some of these method.

in gambling it does not have a particular way or strategies you can use to make money, I believe that gambling is 13 of Grace when you are opportune or when you have luck you can make money through gambling not by predictions or strategies

[Alisha-k]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

it's not taking your money but your time and predictions, I think it can still be referred to as gambling even though definition of gambling suggest that you have to risk something of value or money.

[delfastTions]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

it's not taking your money but your time and predictions, I think it can still be referred to as gambling even though definition of gambling suggest that you have to risk something of value or money.

When in some interesting and cunningly organized game there is such an option that you can play without investing money.  And at the same time, there is an option that you will win and even receive the winnings in money.  This means for sure that someone still invested their money in this game.  Who is this person or this organization, ordinary players can only guess. 
I see two options for which such games can be organized. 
The first option, then a sponsorship contribution or can be considered a charity.  The money won is paid out from the sponsor's money.  At the same time, the sponsor himself can be anonymous, or vice versa, this game promotes him, for example, as a candidate for some kind of election.
 The second option is when the money is provided by some organization that takes into account public opinion or finds out what percentage of the population is interested in gambling, lotteries and other forms of entertainment. 
I think that the second option is the most likely and more common.  And in this way, just someone finds out certain social relations in a particular society.

[Betwrong]

In my opinion, it's not gambling if you don't stake something valuable, something like money or what you can sell for money. Time is a valuable thing, no doubt about that. But if we go fishing, risking to lose our time and get nothing in return, we don't call it gambling, do we? No one does.

The example in the OP is gambling related, but we shouldn't call it gambling if nothing is at stake, I think.

You're correct, if we use time consuming is a form of gamble, I think most of activity in this world is called as gambling, then all countries should legalize gambling because accept or not, you're live with time.

But stake a valuable thing isn't always gambling, we need to know the original source he get. Someone who's gamble using valuable coins e.g. Bitcoin by claiming through the casino faucet isn't called as gambling since he's not risking anything, he get the coins by free.

So, if someone obtained something for free, like inheritance, for example, and he/she put that at stake, it's not gambling? I don't think so. Money from the casino faucet is still money, and although anyone, surely, can easily afford to lose that money, when they put it at stake, it's gambling, in my opinion. But if we take into account that you can't withdraw the money from the faucet, so, it's not actually ours, then it's a philosophical question, whether it's gambling or not.

[mak013]

It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?

Yes demo account is mainly for learners who want to play some free games without real time deposits on fake accounts,  but then in most cases the quality of the games are not the same with those that are played with real money,  since the winning is what excite many of us,  it's important to also note the place and role of having your bet at stake.

That alone increase the ability of the player to make the best decisions while playing the games,  and since there is a difference between free games and monetized games.

Several years ago i decided to try free-roll poker tournaments. It was strange game after normal poker. I saw awful quantity of all-inners and when i called - they hadn`t even a pair. But sometimes i was sure that they has nothing and was caught on the river. After 2-3 days i stopped such poker - it hadn`t any sense to try to understand players.

[maydna]

Your example is considered as gambling because you have something to lose (regardless of if it is money or not) since you'll treat your friends for being the one who lose the bet. It is also quite common for us to have bet with family or friends in something but it doesn't involve money directly as the price, it's still gambling.

However, if the prize is replaced by money, but you'll not lose anything if ever you didn't win then it is not gambling. The prediction contest without asking you to risk your money is like a giveaway though the chance to win is slim.

Well, I think so because sometimes I am in a situation like that. Maybe not for those who have never or rarely been in the same situation. But I don't know. People have different perceptions about this. Perhaps, it seems that it depends on the object or subject so that it can be categorized as gambling or competition.

I agree with what @lienfaye has said because anything that risks goods or money with the aim of multiplying is gambling.
But on the other hand, it is also true that everyone's perceptions must be different on this matter because everyone's thoughts will never be the same.
It's just that the name of risking anything if you have the opportunity to lose and also gain is the same as gambling.
If you say competition doesn't make sense because it's risking for the sake of profit.
In gambling or betting there is no word perception of competition that there only wins or loses except in business maybe it is more acceptable to say competition.

I also agree with what he said because the name of betting could not only use money. And look around us, many people who have bet using many things and have fun doing it. I remember betting on the world cup or local football games with my cousins in school. And we don't use money because our parents forbade gambling. And even so, it already makes us happy to do it quietly

Reminds me of my elementary School days, even though we were children then, we were still forbidden from gambling, and one might want to ask how we get money as children?
How we get money was easy, there are days we don't have what to eat in the morning before leaving for school, our parent will give us a small amount of money to buy food either on our way to school or during school break, some children save this money or part of it and use it to play games with their friends, for us (that is me and my siblings) we were clearly warned and forbidden from ever gambling) but still, we still enjoyed some games in the form of gambling, but we do not stake money so our parents don't see it as gambling.

It also reminds me because I used it to gamble with my childhood friends, but I didn't tell anyone .

Well, childhood often makes us remember because that's where we get many interesting and unforgettable experiences. And at that time, we never thought that what we were doing was included in gambling. There are also times when we gamble but don't use money with friends, and that is also a fun experience with them.

[dwyane36]

Several years ago i decided to try free-roll poker tournaments. It was strange game after normal poker. I saw awful quantity of all-inners and when i called - they hadn`t even a pair. But sometimes i was sure that they has nothing and was caught on the river. After 2-3 days i stopped such poker - it hadn`t any sense to try to understand players.

Of course, sometimes it's hard to understand the logic of players in such tournaments because their all-ins can be very unpredictable. In such cases, it's typical and unpleasant if you call AA, but someone beats you with 72.
Nevertheless, I think freeroll tournaments are still good for newbies, especially for those who want to build up their bankroll without the risk of losing their own money.

[danadc]

Several years ago i decided to try free-roll poker tournaments. It was strange game after normal poker. I saw awful quantity of all-inners and when i called - they hadn`t even a pair. But sometimes i was sure that they has nothing and was caught on the river. After 2-3 days i stopped such poker - it hadn`t any sense to try to understand players.

Of course, sometimes it's hard to understand the logic of players in such tournaments because their all-ins can be very unpredictable. In such cases, it's typical and unpleasant if you call AA, but someone beats you with 72.
Nevertheless, I think freeroll tournaments are still good for newbies, especially for those who want to build up their bankroll without the risk of losing their own money.

By the way, where are those free poker sites? and there aren't any and it's a shame, I haven't been able to and yes, I've been one of those people who put everything in All-in because it's a way of making the opponent dodge, but there are some opponents who have a lot of money and don't fall In that trap, sometimes I won, sometimes I lost, I capitalized and did well, but I have never been able to reach a poker final, and it seems that to get there you have to know a lot, I have studied a lot about poker, but not everything is in our hands, you also have to be very lucky for the good results to occur.

[Slow death]

I think the free prediction is just another form of marketing. If everyone gamble for free, how will they make profit.
This could be for awhile after getting enough users or creating enough awareness, it won't be free.
However I'm trying this out, inviting others too. I love free predictions😀

 

that's the problem, and that all of us who play at the casino lose money at the casino so the casino is making money and that's why even if they offer some free spins or bets to the players, the casino doesn't lose anything, the player he will win when he is given a free spin or a free bet but then he will continue playing and at the end of the day the player will end up losing all the money and of course he will be more willing to continue playing and for that reason he will look for money even if he has to borrow money he will ask and he will put it in the casino and he will lose money again

this strategy that casinos adopt of giving bonuses, giving free spins and free bets is an incredible way that makes people feel attracted to play at the casino and when they lose the free bet or free spin they are more willing to want to play , sometimes even the person loses a lot and decides to stop after 1 month for example but 7 days after losing everything the casino sends an email with a bonus offer or free bet and the person goes back to playing and losing and then makes an effort to get money for play, it's amazing how casinos manage to get players to come back to play at the casino

[Mr. Magkaisa]

In my opinion, it's not gambling if you don't stake something valuable, something like money or what you can sell for money. Time is a valuable thing, no doubt about that. But if we go fishing, risking to lose our time and get nothing in return, we don't call it gambling, do we? No one does.

The example in the OP is gambling related, but we shouldn't call it gambling if nothing is at stake, I think.

You're correct, if we use time consuming is a form of gamble, I think most of activity in this world is called as gambling, then all countries should legalize gambling because accept or not, you're live with time.

But stake a valuable thing isn't always gambling, we need to know the original source he get. Someone who's gamble using valuable coins e.g. Bitcoin by claiming through the casino faucet isn't called as gambling since he's not risking anything, he get the coins by free.

So, if someone obtained something for free, like inheritance, for example, and he/she put that at stake, it's not gambling? I don't think so. Money from the casino faucet is still money, and although anyone, surely, can easily afford to lose that money, when they put it at stake, it's gambling, in my opinion. But if we take into account that you can't withdraw the money from the faucet, so, it's not actually ours, then it's a philosophical question, whether it's gambling or not.

      -  But there are movies I've seen where when a gambler bet in a casino and when he still loses, what they pay is a car or expensive jewelry in exchange for their loss and the casino also agrees, even if it's just a movie is possibly also true in reality.

That means, even if money is not used for gambling, as long as you have something that you have done in a casino, it can still be considered gambling.

[mak013]

Several years ago i decided to try free-roll poker tournaments. It was strange game after normal poker. I saw awful quantity of all-inners and when i called - they hadn`t even a pair. But sometimes i was sure that they has nothing and was caught on the river. After 2-3 days i stopped such poker - it hadn`t any sense to try to understand players.

Of course, sometimes it's hard to understand the logic of players in such tournaments because their all-ins can be very unpredictable. In such cases, it's typical and unpleasant if you call AA, but someone beats you with 72.
Nevertheless, I think freeroll tournaments are still good for newbies, especially for those who want to build up their bankroll without the risk of losing their own money.

The problem is that you can`t train in such tournaments. You can get some free money or understand the rules but nothing more. When the player doesn`t matters about his bet - you can`t understand the game. If he has a good hand, or if he is bluffing, or, probably, he just tired and try to lose in such a way? They don`t risk anything so they can do strange things that you can`t predict.

[EarnOnVictor]

Your example is considered as gambling because you have something to lose (regardless of if it is money or not) since you'll treat your friends for being the one who lose the bet. It is also quite common for us to have bet with family or friends in something but it doesn't involve money directly as the price, it's still gambling.

However, if the prize is replaced by money, but you'll not lose anything if ever you didn't win then it is not gambling. The prediction contest without asking you to risk your money is like a giveaway though the chance to win is slim.

Well, I think so because sometimes I am in a situation like that. Maybe not for those who have never or rarely been in the same situation. But I don't know. People have different perceptions about this. Perhaps, it seems that it depends on the object or subject so that it can be categorized as gambling or competition.

I agree with what @lienfaye has said because anything that risks goods or money with the aim of multiplying is gambling.
But on the other hand, it is also true that everyone's perceptions must be different on this matter because everyone's thoughts will never be the same.
It's just that the name of risking anything if you have the opportunity to lose and also gain is the same as gambling.
If you say competition doesn't make sense because it's risking for the sake of profit.
In gambling or betting there is no word perception of competition that there only wins or loses except in business maybe it is more acceptable to say competition.

I also agree with what he said because the name of betting could not only use money. And look around us, many people who have bet using many things and have fun doing it. I remember betting on the world cup or local football games with my cousins in school. And we don't use money because our parents forbade gambling. And even so, it already makes us happy to do it quietly

Your take should be perceived in the general gambling context only, but not in the perception of gambling as a business. Though, not impossible, it will be difficult that way. Money makes gambling easy and lucrative, and this is why businesses could be easily built around it, even online gambling is more convenient than offline gambling, and it's making the companies opt for it and more people patronise it since money could easily be sent.

Now look at it as though money is not evolved and people/businesses are relying on betting on materials and properties, how cumbersome would that be? There wouldn't even be online gambling because the verification of what you would bet with will be too stressful. The whole process will be tedious, boring and discouraging.

[delfastTions]

Several years ago i decided to try free-roll poker tournaments. It was strange game after normal poker. I saw awful quantity of all-inners and when i called - they hadn`t even a pair. But sometimes i was sure that they has nothing and was caught on the river. After 2-3 days i stopped such poker - it hadn`t any sense to try to understand players.

Of course, sometimes it's hard to understand the logic of players in such tournaments because their all-ins can be very unpredictable. In such cases, it's typical and unpleasant if you call AA, but someone beats you with 72.
Nevertheless, I think freeroll tournaments are still good for newbies, especially for those who want to build up their bankroll without the risk of losing their own money.

The problem is that you can`t train in such tournaments. You can get some free money or understand the rules but nothing more. When the player doesn`t matters about his bet - you can`t understand the game. If he has a good hand, or if he is bluffing, or, probably, he just tired and try to lose in such a way? They don`t risk anything so they can do strange things that you can`t predict.

That's for sure!  This is true! 
If a player does not lose money or something valuable to him in the process of losing in such a game, then this makes his behavior in the game completely different from what it would be if he lost something valuable to him.
 And such a game begins to resemble just a performance, a performance with clowns who do completely absurd things.  It may be funny, of course, and may even amuse the people watching the game, but it's not a real game.  And the emotions from such a fake game are also different.  Although in general it can be quite fun and funny.  But still, the lack of responsibility in making decisions in a game without money turns the game itself into simple entertainment with completely different emotions. 
All this is good for the games of young children and probably even useful for their overall development. 
But when adults do it, it looks rather strange.

[Rabata]

Your example is considered as gambling because you have something to lose (regardless of if it is money or not) since you'll treat your friends for being the one who lose the bet. It is also quite common for us to have bet with family or friends in something but it doesn't involve money directly as the price, it's still gambling.

However, if the prize is replaced by money, but you'll not lose anything if ever you didn't win then it is not gambling. The prediction contest without asking you to risk your money is like a giveaway though the chance to win is slim.

Well, I think so because sometimes I am in a situation like that. Maybe not for those who have never or rarely been in the same situation. But I don't know. People have different perceptions about this. Perhaps, it seems that it depends on the object or subject so that it can be categorized as gambling or competition.

I agree with what @lienfaye has said because anything that risks goods or money with the aim of multiplying is gambling.
But on the other hand, it is also true that everyone's perceptions must be different on this matter because everyone's thoughts will never be the same.
It's just that the name of risking anything if you have the opportunity to lose and also gain is the same as gambling.
If you say competition doesn't make sense because it's risking for the sake of profit.
In gambling or betting there is no word perception of competition that there only wins or loses except in business maybe it is more acceptable to say competition.

I also agree with what he said because the name of betting could not only use money. And look around us, many people who have bet using many things and have fun doing it. I remember betting on the world cup or local football games with my cousins in school. And we don't use money because our parents forbade gambling. And even so, it already makes us happy to do it quietly

In your gambling you can have fun but in the language of gambling your act does not fall under real gambling because there is no risk involved. If there is no risk then it cannot be gambling. I often used to bet with friends and bet on various things, one of which was treat at restaurant. Whoever loses that bet will pay restaurant bill. Here the contact of money is not directly visible but indirectly have appearance. If you lose, you will have to spend money. So it can be considered as gambling.

[Doan9269]

It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?

Yes demo account is mainly for learners who want to play some free games without real time deposits on fake accounts,  but then in most cases the quality of the games are not the same with those that are played with real money,  since the winning is what excite many of us,  it's important to also note the place and role of having your bet at stake.

That alone increase the ability of the player to make the best decisions while playing the games,  and since there is a difference between free games and monetized games.

Use of demo account is not the real gambling, but a learning ground to those that are beginners to learn about gambling for themselves, you may not need money to use in doing this because everything had already been set and orogrmmed on a learning platform to make use of their functions, they are not paid services and not the real gambling, but there you play, earn, win and loose which are the primary expectations you come across in real life gambling