Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[michellee]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Although gambling without money seems strange, the gambling site has been created considering some important business aspects behind it. Gambling without money can be a promotional free service for that gambling site. First they gave some free services without money, then when the target of their website promotion was met, they promoted the site in exchange of money. One of the main goals of a successful business is first they promote their website well and then they fulfill their target through users. Maybe with free service this can be their main business principle.

It seems strange to people who are used to gambling with money but not to them because they might want to avoid making a habit of gambling with money. But if they want to feel the experience or pleasure of playing gambling in a casino, they can also do it without using money where they use a demo account.

But not many casinos offer promotions in the form of playing for free without money except in certain events to attract lots of gamblers to participate.

But it seems that betting doesn't use money but later you can get money, that's something new because they bet for free but can get prizes. And it is a good promotion for gamblers, especially those who want to try their knowledge to earn money.

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[Doan9269]

It seems strange to people who are used to gambling with money but not to them because they might want to avoid making a habit of gambling with money. But if they want to feel the experience or pleasure of playing gambling in a casino, they can also do it without using money where they use a demo account.

I wonder what to call it if money is not involved except if it's not gambling, wome take this advantage to gamble and still play lottery because it's free to do, but unlike gambling, you can't go to the casio without having your own money to use for gambling else you will be chased out.

But not many casinos offer promotions in the form of playing for free without money except in certain events to attract lots of gamblers to participate.

Truly they offer promotional opportunities and give gamblers bonuses in return, but still yet, one has to read and unde the conditions attached to those rewards received because most of them can only be used to gamble back to the casino and not to withdraw the money just like that after receiving the bonus.

But it seems that betting doesn't use money but later you can get money, that's something new because they bet for free but can get prizes. And it is a good promotion for gamblers, especially those who want to try their knowledge to earn money.

Betting needs money, that's what you need to get gambling experience, without money gambling is not complete not to talk or betting on a casino.

[EarnOnVictor]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Although gambling without money seems strange, the gambling site has been created considering some important business aspects behind it. Gambling without money can be a promotional free service for that gambling site. First they gave some free services without money, then when the target of their website promotion was met, they promoted the site in exchange of money. One of the main goals of a successful business is first they promote their website well and then they fulfill their target through users. Maybe with free service this can be their main business principle.

It seems strange to people who are used to gambling with money but not to them because they might want to avoid making a habit of gambling with money. But if they want to feel the experience or pleasure of playing gambling in a casino, they can also do it without using money where they use a demo account.

But not many casinos offer promotions in the form of playing for free without money except in certain events to attract lots of gamblers to participate.

But it seems that betting doesn't use money but later you can get money, that's something new because they bet for free but can get prizes. And it is a good promotion for gamblers, especially those who want to try their knowledge to earn money.

Emphatically, it's no more gambling when money or material exchange is not involved as this could only amount to just having fun just like you and your friend/family playing cards for no obligation attachment for and against the winner and loser respectively. I just checked the website and I could realize that they are doing this for promotional purposes, they might lure you to know their sites before all these freebies would stop completely.

It's good though but I've not fully browsed the website, but I suspect that there are other aspects of it that you gamble normally and another part that you get the freebies so that you can know the site for testing and might be able to win some light rewards. It's all marketing gimmicks.

[dezoel]

How can you think that predicting without money can be called gambling? I do not agree.

Gambling is actually not necessarily about money. everything that can be at stake in several choices we can call it a gamble.
as an easy example, my friends and I are betting between students or teachers who will erase the writing on the blackboard first when a new lesson starts. and the loser would polish the winner's shoes for one week.

I don't know what other people think, but in my opinion, it's a small thing that can be bet in any form. I would call it gambling. I made a bet with my prediction.

I totally agree with that, it isn't necessary for it to be called gambling if only money is involved. If anything that is of value to you is put at stake, it could be money, a belonging, your dignity, your time, or anything you can think of, it will still be considered gambling because you are gambling that thing with your prediction that might be wrong and you lose that thing if that happens.

In your case, you guys used to bet your time since the one who lost used to polish the shoes of the other which would be investing your time into it. Similarly, if there is anything at stake, you will have to give that thing away if you lose the bet.

[LUCKMCFLY]

same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

Patience is an art, we cannot have anything without patience, we as players and as people who are risking money all the time, we might think that things have to go another way, you have to be patient in everything, this is for achieve what we set out to do, here things can be seen from many points of view, the one that has the most for us is that we don't care about money, we just want to play at any cost, the bad thing is when you lose, because when That happens, we reflect and have a greater vision of things and of our game,but we must not reach that point, we must be more Intelligent to realize when we Should have some strategy to enter and test the Games well.

[Weawant]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

We can't call this gambling since there's no money or valuable assets been risked. You don't only gamble when you stake money, there are so many others valuable assets that can be us in place of money for example, your house or other valuable properties you own.

For your example, this is more of an advertisment, they're looking for customers to use their services therefore giving our free promotion for users to participate in and win free rewards. The more the competition get popular, more participants might decide to use their products.

This type of promotion also encourages people to bet money for the real games as they'll they always have that too just Incase they get customers that are feeling lucky and wants to try betting with real money instead of playing for free that reduce their chances of winning.

[khaled0111]

I wonder what to call it if money is not involved except if it's not gambling, wome take this advantage to gamble and still play lottery because it's free to do, but unlike gambling, you can't go to the casio without having your own money to use for gambling else you will be chased out.

I answered this same exact question in one of my previous replies. It's called a "prediction game" and I quoted the definition from Wikipedia. For reference, it's not gambling. I don't blame you sine I posted my reply days ago and it has been buried under tons of other replies, so you have probably missed it.
I think it's useless to continue this debate as it's obvious no one reads what others say.

[summonerrk]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

It is unlikely that we will be able to call this a real gambling, because here the client does not risk anything. And the concept of gambling includes the risk of losing or winning money. Gambling without money is rather designed to shake the psyche and interest of users of the gambling platform. There is a same phenomenon in forex when a trading platform is provided on a demo account.

[davis196]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I've never heard about this website. Are you promoting it? I don't want to visit suspicious links.
No, of course that it doesn't qualify as gambling. Google Play and the Apple Appstore are full with "pay-to-win" mobile games, where you have to buy in-game items in order to win the game. does this qualify as gambling? Your example is a bit different, but this isn't gambling, since the players don't bet their own money. I wonder what is the business model of this superpicks.com website? How the website owners are making enough money to pay the winners and accumulate enough profits to keep the business running?

[Mr. Magkaisa]

same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

Patience is an art, we cannot have anything without patience, we as players and as people who are risking money all the time, we might think that things have to go another way, you have to be patient in everything, this is for achieve what we set out to do, here things can be seen from many points of view, the one that has the most for us is that we don't care about money, we just want to play at any cost, the bad thing is when you lose, because when That happens, we reflect and have a greater vision of things and of our game,but we must not reach that point, we must be more Intelligent to realize when we Should have some strategy to enter and test the Games well.

    -   In the first place, I want you to know that I want to criticize what you are saying here. You mentioned that patience is like an Art.
I agree with what you said and I have no argument with you on this matter either. Now, for my opinion, a person's patience has no relation to playing gambling. Because being patient belongs to the so-called virtues and gambling is not included in the word "Virtues".

But I still agree with what you said that if we gamble it should only be done as a hobby or just for fun, it shouldn't cause us stress or problems in the end just because we lost playing gambling. Gambling skills are also not necessary if you are the type of gambler who relies on luck.

[SamReomo]

same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

Patience is an art, we cannot have anything without patience, we as players and as people who are risking money all the time, we might think that things have to go another way, you have to be patient in everything, this is for achieve what we set out to do, here things can be seen from many points of view, the one that has the most for us is that we don't care about money, we just want to play at any cost, the bad thing is when you lose, because when That happens, we reflect and have a greater vision of things and of our game,but we must not reach that point, we must be more Intelligent to realize when we Should have some strategy to enter and test the Games well.

    -   In the first place, I want you to know that I want to criticize what you are saying here. You mentioned that patience is like an Art.
I agree with what you said and I have no argument with you on this matter either. Now, for my opinion, a person's patience has no relation to playing gambling. Because being patient belongs to the so-called virtues and gambling is not included in the word "Virtues".

But I still agree with what you said that if we gamble it should only be done as a hobby or just for fun, it shouldn't cause us stress or problems in the end just because we lost playing gambling. Gambling skills are also not necessary if you are the type of gambler who relies on luck.

Even in the world of gambling patience is a virtue. It is not always needed to be in a monk to be called as a virtue sometimes even in any area of life we have the patience then we can win with the help of it. Online gambling is no different in this aspect because the patient gamblers always know that when to place the bets in order to have more chance of a winning bet. The impatient gamblers just play to multiply their money and they think that all the bets will favor them in winning.

The gambling should be done with care as our emotions can have bad impact on the performance. I think it's always better to gamble as a hobby not as a addiction. You should do it for fun and it should promote happiness rather than stress and other types of sadness in the gambler. A gambler should never rely on luck, he/she should learn the game and only place bets when things are in favor.

It's not recommended to gamble by relying on luck only because most of the times the luck isn't good and it won't favor the gambler. I think that our emotions can impact the luck as well, IDK how but they do have some power that can make us lucky or unlucky. I'm not into psychic things so I'm newbie in that domain but still it's always a better choice to gamble with logic and smartness rather than relying on luck only.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

Patience is an art, we cannot have anything without patience, we as players and as people who are risking money all the time, we might think that things have to go another way, you have to be patient in everything, this is for achieve what we set out to do, here things can be seen from many points of view, the one that has the most for us is that we don't care about money, we just want to play at any cost, the bad thing is when you lose, because when That happens, we reflect and have a greater vision of things and of our game,but we must not reach that point, we must be more Intelligent to realize when we Should have some strategy to enter and test the Games well.

    -   In the first place, I want you to know that I want to criticize what you are saying here. You mentioned that patience is like an Art.
I agree with what you said and I have no argument with you on this matter either. Now, for my opinion, a person's patience has no relation to playing gambling. Because being patient belongs to the so-called virtues and gambling is not included in the word "Virtues".

But I still agree with what you said that if we gamble it should only be done as a hobby or just for fun, it shouldn't cause us stress or problems in the end just because we lost playing gambling. Gambling skills are also not necessary if you are the type of gambler who relies on luck.

Relying on luck depends greatly on the game the gambler is playing, so it is not on the gamblers hand to rely on luck, the game the gambler decides to play is what determines whether the gambler should rely on luck or not..
For example, somebody playing online slot games have no other choice or option, other than to rely on luck, on the other hand, somebody who's betting on sports matches must be force to always follow up on games, by watching the match or following the live scores of every match, this is how the gambler gets to learn about different teams and their abilities, and inabilities, this help to know which team to put your Bet On anything there is a match coming up or going on..

Any gambler who is betting on sports games and really completely on luck will only loose until he or she is completely frustrated with gambling.

[bangjoe]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I don't think it's gambling, but it is a gift to be given to them randomly, the context of gambling must have a bet in it, it can only be said to be a gambling, but if there is no bet it is not gambling in my opinion, it is more like you get a coupon with prizes In Super Market after you shop for free, then if the number you get appears on the winner's match you get it. Or you get a door prize on a leisurely walk or marathon event, when you are not asked to pay the requirements to get the lottery number then it is not gambling but it is more to the event with random prizes.

[slapper]

same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

Patience is an art, we cannot have anything without patience, we as players and as people who are risking money all the time, we might think that things have to go another way, you have to be patient in everything, this is for achieve what we set out to do, here things can be seen from many points of view, the one that has the most for us is that we don't care about money, we just want to play at any cost, the bad thing is when you lose, because when That happens, we reflect and have a greater vision of things and of our game,but we must not reach that point, we must be more Intelligent to realize when we Should have some strategy to enter and test the Games well.

    -   In the first place, I want you to know that I want to criticize what you are saying here. You mentioned that patience is like an Art.
I agree with what you said and I have no argument with you on this matter either. Now, for my opinion, a person's patience has no relation to playing gambling. Because being patient belongs to the so-called virtues and gambling is not included in the word "Virtues".

But I still agree with what you said that if we gamble it should only be done as a hobby or just for fun, it shouldn't cause us stress or problems in the end just because we lost playing gambling. Gambling skills are also not necessary if you are the type of gambler who relies on luck.

Relying on luck depends greatly on the game the gambler is playing, so it is not on the gamblers hand to rely on luck, the game the gambler decides to play is what determines whether the gambler should rely on luck or not..
For example, somebody playing online slot games have no other choice or option, other than to rely on luck, on the other hand, somebody who's betting on sports matches must be force to always follow up on games, by watching the match or following the live scores of every match, this is how the gambler gets to learn about different teams and their abilities, and inabilities, this help to know which team to put your Bet On anything there is a match coming up or going on..

Any gambler who is betting on sports games and really completely on luck will only loose until he or she is completely frustrated with gambling.

Intriguing perspective! Indeed, virtues and gambling might seem like oil and water. But let's consider this: virtues aren't just for virtuous actions. Even in contexts we wouldn't consider "virtuous," we can bring our virtues to bear.

Let's dissect this patience angle. Patience, when applied to gambling, isn't about sanctifying the act but rather mitigating impulsivity, promoting strategic thinking, and managing potential losses.

Coming to luck, yes, it's the driving force in some games, like slots. You could say it's like tossing a coin into a wishing well and hoping for the best. But for sports betting, it's a different beast altogether. It's like a game of chess; you need to understand the teams, the players, the strategies. Betting on sports blindly is akin to jumping off a plane without checking your parachute - not recommended.

[Quidat]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I don't think it's gambling, but it is a gift to be given to them randomly, the context of gambling must have a bet in it, it can only be said to be a gambling, but if there is no bet it is not gambling in my opinion, it is more like you get a coupon with prizes In Super Market after you shop for free, then if the number you get appears on the winner's match you get it. Or you get a door prize on a leisurely walk or marathon event, when you are not asked to pay the requirements to get the lottery number then it is not gambling but it is more to the event with random prizes.

But it would really be called gambling still but on the essence on how its been done, although it wasnt really totally a gambling since there's no money involved with this on which it is really that totally understandable and easy to understand on whats their difference in speaking about gambling. It is true that this is an unusual stuff on where there's some company that giving out that kind of opportunity
on which you could really make out some bets without the need on risking your own money and it isnt really that gambling at all. If you are really that engaging into this then it would really be something that pleasurable considering that you could really still able to make winnings without having risks or risk free which is something that really uncommon nowadays.
Usually it would really be something that promotional or really that temporary because they cant really be just having this kind of thing forever.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

Patience is an art, we cannot have anything without patience, we as players and as people who are risking money all the time, we might think that things have to go another way, you have to be patient in everything, this is for achieve what we set out to do, here things can be seen from many points of view, the one that has the most for us is that we don't care about money, we just want to play at any cost, the bad thing is when you lose, because when That happens, we reflect and have a greater vision of things and of our game,but we must not reach that point, we must be more Intelligent to realize when we Should have some strategy to enter and test the Games well.

    -   In the first place, I want you to know that I want to criticize what you are saying here. You mentioned that patience is like an Art.
I agree with what you said and I have no argument with you on this matter either. Now, for my opinion, a person's patience has no relation to playing gambling. Because being patient belongs to the so-called virtues and gambling is not included in the word "Virtues".

But I still agree with what you said that if we gamble it should only be done as a hobby or just for fun, it shouldn't cause us stress or problems in the end just because we lost playing gambling. Gambling skills are also not necessary if you are the type of gambler who relies on luck.

Relying on luck depends greatly on the game the gambler is playing, so it is not on the gamblers hand to rely on luck, the game the gambler decides to play is what determines whether the gambler should rely on luck or not..
For example, somebody playing online slot games have no other choice or option, other than to rely on luck, on the other hand, somebody who's betting on sports matches must be force to always follow up on games, by watching the match or following the live scores of every match, this is how the gambler gets to learn about different teams and their abilities, and inabilities, this help to know which team to put your Bet On anything there is a match coming up or going on..

Any gambler who is betting on sports games and really completely on luck will only loose until he or she is completely frustrated with gambling.

Intriguing perspective! Indeed, virtues and gambling might seem like oil and water. But let's consider this: virtues aren't just for virtuous actions. Even in contexts we wouldn't consider "virtuous," we can bring our virtues to bear.

Let's dissect this patience angle. Patience, when applied to gambling, isn't about sanctifying the act but rather mitigating impulsivity, promoting strategic thinking, and managing potential losses.

Coming to luck, yes, it's the driving force in some games, like slots. You could say it's like tossing a coin into a wishing well and hoping for the best. But for sports betting, it's a different beast altogether. It's like a game of chess; you need to understand the teams, the players, the strategies. Betting on sports blindly is akin to jumping off a plane without checking your parachute - not recommended.

    -   Well, that's your assumption, How can you say that the word "Persevere" is relevant if your winning is based on luck? But actually what we're talking about here makes sense because of this thing.

Now, the game chess for me is a sports and maybe for others it is a gambling type, which really uses the mind and strategy, but in the game of slots, Baccarat, in my opinion it does not require as much as chess game.

[_act_]

I totally agree with that, it isn't necessary for it to be called gambling if only money is involved. If anything that is of value to you is put at stake, it could be money, a belonging, your dignity, your time, or anything you can think of, it will still be considered gambling because you are gambling that thing with your prediction that might be wrong and you lose that thing if that happens.

You people should not get this wrong as this thread as become long some people still do not understand that gambling requires money. If you are given no money but to make a free bet, it is not gambling. What has not money required may also not be related to gambling at all. The free bet can just be a way to lure people to gambling sites so that they can begin to gamble too after they deposit money. It is money you put into something, or anything like property, asset etc, inorder to make more that should be called gambling, but if it is only your time you put to it and no money or anything of value require, that is another aspect we can talk about like politics, not gambling. Gambling means using something of value to bet inorder to earn more of something valuable too.

[Doan9269]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I don't think it's gambling, but it is a gift to be given to them randomly, the context of gambling must have a bet in it, it can only be said to be a gambling, but if there is no bet it is not gambling in my opinion, it is more like you get a coupon with prizes In Super Market after you shop for free, then if the number you get appears on the winner's match you get it. Or you get a door prize on a leisurely walk or marathon event, when you are not asked to pay the requirements to get the lottery number then it is not gambling but it is more to the event with random prizes.

There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

[piebeyb]

I totally agree with that, it isn't necessary for it to be called gambling if only money is involved. If anything that is of value to you is put at stake, it could be money, a belonging, your dignity, your time, or anything you can think of, it will still be considered gambling because you are gambling that thing with your prediction that might be wrong and you lose that thing if that happens.

You people should not get this wrong as this thread as become long some people still do not understand that gambling requires money. If you are given no money but to make a free bet, it is not gambling. What has not money required may also not be related to gambling at all. The free bet can just be a way to lure people to gambling sites so that they can begin to gamble too after they deposit money. It is money you put into something, or anything like property, asset etc, inorder to make more that should be called gambling, but if it is only your time you put to it and no money or anything of value require, that is another aspect we can talk about like politics, not gambling. Gambling means using something of value to bet inorder to earn more of something valuable too.

Yes, you are right, what is at stake must be in the form of, for example, money, assets or property so that it can be said that something must be at stake in gambling, but to bet in the form of time it cannot be said to be gambling either because it is not in the form of value and can be given to others in some form, but the longer this thread the less it makes sense.

Just look, many don't understand the meaning of what OP wrote in this thread, after all, many have gone off topic, back to the topic that any gambling without money will be called gambling because it could be in the form of assets or property that can be staked and given to the winner. , in contrast to time.

[Betwrong]

~ There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.