Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[CarnagexD]

Gambling is still entertainment, for 99% of people it should remain classed as a leisure activity and allocated that amount of money.   I dont believe its good advice to start confusing people saying you can earn or make money from gambling, you get some winnings back and that is really nice as a bonus but never expect to 'earn'.

This is eternally true but most gamblers consider it as their source of income or an opportunity to earn more money which they should never think because gambling can never guarantee a win. So from the beginning gamblers should have proper concept before gambling. Every gambler should know that this is not a source of income. No one can earn regular money from gambling. But sometimes winning in gambling can be considered as a bonus.

They should be prepared to be disappointed if they consider gambling a source of income because that is not the scenario. Gambling is only for entertainment and pleasure, so people do not need to take gambling seriously, where they will bet large amounts of money. Meanwhile, they don't know when they can make money but instead get a lot of losses. They should think of their victory as a bonus for good luck coming their way at the right time, but they can't expect luck to come more often.

I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.

[Odusko]

I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.

You started your comment trying to point out something is that the thread has achieved its aim but along the way, you dive back to making the same contribution that many others have and made bringing us back to where we are and the discussion has not been pushed forward in any way since you brought nothing that could spark up a further discussion.
We all have been through gambling ups and down and at that if you have must make anything out of gambling it means its outcomes are unpredictable.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Gambling is still entertainment, for 99% of people it should remain classed as a leisure activity and allocated that amount of money.   I dont believe its good advice to start confusing people saying you can earn or make money from gambling, you get some winnings back and that is really nice as a bonus but never expect to 'earn'.

This is eternally true but most gamblers consider it as their source of income or an opportunity to earn more money which they should never think because gambling can never guarantee a win. So from the beginning gamblers should have proper concept before gambling. Every gambler should know that this is not a source of income. No one can earn regular money from gambling. But sometimes winning in gambling can be considered as a bonus.

They should be prepared to be disappointed if they consider gambling a source of income because that is not the scenario. Gambling is only for entertainment and pleasure, so people do not need to take gambling seriously, where they will bet large amounts of money. Meanwhile, they don't know when they can make money but instead get a lot of losses. They should think of their victory as a bonus for good luck coming their way at the right time, but they can't expect luck to come more often.

I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.

Thanks for your contribution but I completely disagree with you, sports is sports and gambling remains gambling, gambling is never a sports, I wonder where you got the idea of all this you've said from.

Gambling can only make me lose financially, but I never loss psychologically or mentally, I can never lose my hope simply because I lost a game in gambling, that is a very awkward thing to say, gambling is an entertainment as long as you see and let it act that way, you will never have problems, but when you begin to consider or let gambling take the place of your business, job and so on, it simply means you are sick..

[lionheart78]

In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol

That is just what makes the game interesting, money, when there is money in a game things will always be more interesting, exciting and fair, because most players like bets, age does not matter, because being risking that is something it makes them feel more alive, that's why games of chance are called that, because they have money associated with them.

I have played some games without betting money, but just playing for the sake of playing and you can also have fun just because things are not as good as when they are done with money, because that way if it attracts attention and all the time it will be about if you win or lost money. The emotions of gambling with bets and everything that has to do with bets is better with money, otherwise it is child's play.

Actually not only money, previously already mentioned by Joddy, but the item can be a betting tool, or other things that are considered both parties or (certain objects) valuable then it can be mentioned betting, and there indeed makes the atmosphere become Tense and fun because we have something valuable as a gamble tool and that also makes the betting more interesting.

Well, we all know that betting on anything that has value in hopes to get a bigger reward is considered gambling.  So it is not limited to money only but if someone states that it is still gambling even if there is no valuable thing involved or at risk because they spent time for it is debatable but IMHO, it is not gambling because time is given free it will flow even if we don't do anything.

Maybe for example again when two men fighting over women, and both compete in a game, or choose a team that will compete in the field is also included in the gambling scope.
Money is not the only one that makes the betting can be called gambling, the fact is there are still many tools to be used as a base or gambling.

It is not gambling when two people compete for a girl's attention or a spot on a sports team.  It is a competition, not gambling.  The reason why basketball is called a sport and not gambling same thing as the elimination of participants in a contest.

[topbitcoin]

Maybe for example again when two men fighting over women, and both compete in a game, or choose a team that will compete in the field is also included in the gambling scope.
Money is not the only one that makes the betting can be called gambling, the fact is there are still many tools to be used as a base or gambling.

It is not gambling when two people compete for a girl's attention or a spot on a sports team.  It is a competition, not gambling.  The reason why basketball is called a sport and not gambling same thing as the elimination of participants in a contest.

I don't think that it's for competition to get attention, sorry if I don't explain it clearly, more precisely is when you and your friends make transactions that when in a match you take if one of you wins the match, then X or (the girl ) belongs to the winner, and the loser doesn't have any rights anymore because he lost the bet agreed at the beginning, maybe that's clearer.
I think that the simple concept of betting is like that, no matter how the mechanics of the process are, what is certain is that if there is one thing that is contested (of value) between two or more parties, it's the same in my opinion.
And indeed competition is also actually when viewed openly, when you have to pay a registration fee as a condition for participating in a competition, and the registration money is used as a prize that is up for grabs, in my opinion it is the same as gambling, except you don't spend anything as a condition. IMO

[Webetcoins]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

According to Britannca definition, gambling is said to be  the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result by reason of the bettor's miscalculation.
 Therefore whether it involves staking money or not so far it requires you to make predictions about an event then it's also considered as gambling however apart from online casino, money is not the only requirement for staking on games or events, in rural areas most people who play draft stake their valuable items over who would win the game.

Whether you are betting with money or with valuable goods, it is still considered gambling because there is at least something at stake, and when there is something valuable at stake, that becomes gambling no matter what the game is, but when you are only making predictions and not making any bets on it but you are still going to get a reward if your prediction becomes accurate, that cannot be considered gambling because if you lose, you lose nothing.

So people need to understand that a game that you play to win some reward and lose nothing if you don't win can't be and shouldn't be considered gambling but it is just a game that you play for some reward, even if it involves making predictions on real life events like sports matches, etc.

[Weawant]

They should be prepared to be disappointed if they consider gambling a source of income because that is not the scenario. Gambling is only for entertainment and pleasure, so people do not need to take gambling seriously, where they will bet large amounts of money. Meanwhile, they don't know when they can make money but instead get a lot of losses. They should think of their victory as a bonus for good luck coming their way at the right time, but they can't expect luck to come more often.

Gambling can also be a source of income, it all depends on the person that's gambling, if you can discipline yourself like the professional, you can make a living by gambling. We have those that their lifes depends on gambling and they're doing just fine as a normal people.

It mightn't be only gambling they considered to be the source of their income as they might have other side hustle they used to assist the money coming from gambling but gambling takes a very large percentage when you consider the money that comes in to their account.

Gambling can be for entertainment and pleasure no doubts but you can also use gambling to pay your bills, we have those that are relying on gambling so it doesn't sound impossible to accomplish but very hard as you'll have to be very lucky to always win and avoid addiction.

[blockman]

So people need to understand that a game that you play to win some reward and lose nothing if you don't win can't be and shouldn't be considered gambling but it is just a game that you play for some reward, even if it involves making predictions on real life events like sports matches, etc.

Different opinions about considering gambling without a stake. That can be true in some forms because you've got nothing to gamble with. But we can't also deny that winning and losing is part of gambling and that's why we do something and you're expecting to win, the risk is already there. And it's up to you whether to consider it as gambling or not when you're not putting a lot of pressure and risk on what you do. Considering that we also play gambling and we also could have some reward if ever we hit our bets and we're lucky enough. So, that's it, you do you in considering topics like this.

[Hamphser]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

According to Britannca definition, gambling is said to be  the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result by reason of the bettor's miscalculation.
 Therefore whether it involves staking money or not so far it requires you to make predictions about an event then it's also considered as gambling however apart from online casino, money is not the only requirement for staking on games or events, in rural areas most people who play draft stake their valuable items over who would win the game.

Whether you are betting with money or with valuable goods, it is still considered gambling because there is at least something at stake, and when there is something valuable at stake, that becomes gambling no matter what the game is, but when you are only making predictions and not making any bets on it but you are still going to get a reward if your prediction becomes accurate, that cannot be considered gambling because if you lose, you lose nothing.

So people need to understand that a game that you play to win some reward and lose nothing if you don't win can't be and shouldn't be considered gambling but it is just a game that you play for some reward, even if it involves making predictions on real life events like sports matches, etc.

Even trying out to make up some dealing on something which no money involved but certain conditions or agreement in between parties then it would really be considered gambling.Not all would really be pertaining

about money when it comes to gambling on which same as i said earlier that it would really be also considered out on other aspects as long you are risking on something then its considered gambling.
It is really just that people who are really that get used to when it comes to gambling then it do pertains about having a balance or money on their accounts which is mostly that will really be going with literal gambling games and doesnt really count into those situations on which they are really that talking about those casual situations in life which does involved choices and decisions which it would also
gamble out their conditions or possible consequences.

[Doan9269]

As everyone has made it more clear that gambling is a form of being entertained and while going through this, we can also find a means to pick out some opportunities in this for making earnings through it but it must not be forgotten that gambling still remains gambling and not a permanent or best ideal way of making money, if we are interested in making money then we should go after making an investment, so also is what we do being recognized as gambling if we make use of money to bet for it, in doing so, we have also become a gambler at the process.

[sompitonov]

They should be prepared to be disappointed if they consider gambling a source of income because that is not the scenario. Gambling is only for entertainment and pleasure, so people do not need to take gambling seriously, where they will bet large amounts of money. Meanwhile, they don't know when they can make money but instead get a lot of losses. They should think of their victory as a bonus for good luck coming their way at the right time, but they can't expect luck to come more often.

Gambling can also be a source of income, it all depends on the person that's gambling, if you can discipline yourself like the professional, you can make a living by gambling. We have those that their lifes depends on gambling and they're doing just fine as a normal people.

It mightn't be only gambling they considered to be the source of their income as they might have other side hustle they used to assist the money coming from gambling but gambling takes a very large percentage when you consider the money that comes in to their account.

Gambling can be for entertainment and pleasure no doubts but you can also use gambling to pay your bills, we have those that are relying on gambling so it doesn't sound impossible to accomplish but very hard as you'll have to be very lucky to always win and avoid addiction.

I watched a poker stream today for several hours in which a professional played online. For 15 years he lives only on income from poker, he has an ordinary family and children. He has contracts with a poker room that gives him more rakeback. But his main income is playing on several tables. And in order to win on them, you need to be in excellent moral shape and constantly study, because if he relaxes, then his rivals will adapt to him and he will not be able to earn more.

I wanted to be like him, but after trying this lifestyle, I realized how exhausting the work that few are capable of.

[Wiwo]

Gambling involves money, so without this I don’t think its gambling.
Just make sure not to bet any with money or else you’re doing gambling and you have to be more responsible on that and avoid being greedy. There are site who have this options, and this is also their way to attract gamblers, this is actually where I started, from the free wager until I deposited my first capital.

Gambling without anything at stake may end in frustration and can not longer be gambling since one of the aim of gambling is to have fun aside from the possibility of making income through gambling,  because at some point we must come to the agreement on the fact that just playing the games without anything at stake will end as just time wasting since the excitement and commitment that is involved in gambling while risking something is the life wire to gambling.

But on the other hand,  we can't deny the fact that there are few people who Gamble on the demo mood and for that they have similar experiences to those gambling with their money at stake. .

[Bushdark]

As everyone has made it more clear that gambling is a form of being entertained and while going through this, we can also find a means to pick out some opportunities in this for making earnings through it but it must not be forgotten that gambling still remains gambling and not a permanent or best ideal way of making money, if we are interested in making money then we should go after making an investment, so also is what we do being recognized as gambling if we make use of money to bet for it, in doing so, we have also become a gambler at the process.

It is obvious that everyone that enters into gambling want to make some kind of profits from it whether our later interesting becomes a source of entertainment. People make money from gambling and also decided to see it as entertainment which is still very confusing to me. Since we are making money from gambling, I don't see it as entertainment unless we are ready to keep losing in gambling without any problem or caring about our loses. Since we want to make money from it, we become prepared and look for signals or people that will forecast games for us so that we can earn too from the market.

[lionheart78]

Maybe for example again when two men fighting over women, and both compete in a game, or choose a team that will compete in the field is also included in the gambling scope.
Money is not the only one that makes the betting can be called gambling, the fact is there are still many tools to be used as a base or gambling.

It is not gambling when two people compete for a girl's attention or a spot on a sports team.  It is a competition, not gambling.  The reason why basketball is called a sport and not gambling same thing as the elimination of participants in a contest.

I don't think that it's for competition to get attention, sorry if I don't explain it clearly, more precisely is when you and your friends make transactions that when in a match you take if one of you wins the match, then X or (the girl ) belongs to the winner, and the loser doesn't have any rights anymore because he lost the bet agreed at the beginning, maybe that's clearer.

If that is the case then yes it is gambling since the bet is the right to court the girl and the prize is the monopoly on courting the girl.

I think that the simple concept of betting is like that, no matter how the mechanics of the process are, what is certain is that if there is one thing that is contested (of value) between two or more parties, it's the same in my opinion.

Yeah, I got the point now that you explained it well.

And indeed competition is also actually when viewed openly, when you have to pay a registration fee as a condition for participating in a competition, and the registration money is used as a prize that is up for grabs, in my opinion it is the same as gambling, except you don't spend anything as a condition. IMO

There is a difference between competition in a contest with registration and pooling funds and competing to win such a prize which I also consider as gambling. 

[mitchr4]

Gambling involves money, so without this I don’t think its gambling.
Just make sure not to bet any with money or else you’re doing gambling and you have to be more responsible on that and avoid being greedy. There are site who have this options, and this is also their way to attract gamblers, this is actually where I started, from the free wager until I deposited my first capital.

Gambling without anything at stake may end in frustration and can not longer be gambling since one of the aim of gambling is to have fun aside from the possibility of making income through gambling,  because at some point we must come to the agreement on the fact that just playing the games without anything at stake will end as just time wasting since the excitement and commitment that is involved in gambling while risking something is the life wire to gambling.

But on the other hand,  we can't deny the fact that there are few people who Gamble on the demo mood and for that they have similar experiences to those gambling with their money at stake. .

Playing in that mode is actually not challenging at all because we have nothing to bet on. But playing in demo mode is that you can get to know and understand the game without having to risk losing money. This is also very useful for those who are new to how the game works. 

[lienfaye]

As everyone has made it more clear that gambling is a form of being entertained and while going through this, we can also find a means to pick out some opportunities in this for making earnings through it but it must not be forgotten that gambling still remains gambling and not a permanent or best ideal way of making money, if we are interested in making money then we should go after making an investment, so also is what we do being recognized as gambling if we make use of money to bet for it, in doing so, we have also become a gambler at the process.

It is obvious that everyone that enters into gambling want to make some kind of profits from it whether our later interesting becomes a source of entertainment. People make money from gambling and also decided to see it as entertainment which is still very confusing to me. Since we are making money from gambling, I don't see it as entertainment unless we are ready to keep losing in gambling without any problem or caring about our loses. Since we want to make money from it, we become prepared and look for signals or people that will forecast games for us so that we can earn too from the market.

Those who entertain themselves through gambling are prepared to lose their money since they're aware it's likely to happen. But what matter to them is to enjoy the game and satisfy themselves regardless of the result (either win or lose).

We can't deny that what attract the most to gamble the money is because of the profit. If you're lucky it's easy to win in snap, same goes if you're unfortunate, you can lose it all. So if you don't want to lose your money, don't gamble since there are plenty of ways to entertain yourself without the need to stake something valuable.

[delfastTions]

As everyone has made it more clear that gambling is a form of being entertained and while going through this, we can also find a means to pick out some opportunities in this for making earnings through it but it must not be forgotten that gambling still remains gambling and not a permanent or best ideal way of making money, if we are interested in making money then we should go after making an investment, so also is what we do being recognized as gambling if we make use of money to bet for it, in doing so, we have also become a gambler at the process.

It is obvious that everyone that enters into gambling want to make some kind of profits from it whether our later interesting becomes a source of entertainment. People make money from gambling and also decided to see it as entertainment which is still very confusing to me. Since we are making money from gambling, I don't see it as entertainment unless we are ready to keep losing in gambling without any problem or caring about our loses. Since we want to make money from it, we become prepared and look for signals or people that will forecast games for us so that we can earn too from the market.

Those who entertain themselves through gambling are prepared to lose their money since they're aware it's likely to happen. But what matter to them is to enjoy the game and satisfy themselves regardless of the result (either win or lose).

We can't deny that what attract the most to gamble the money is because of the profit. If you're lucky it's easy to win in snap, same goes if you're unfortunate, you can lose it all. So if you don't want to lose your money, don't gamble since there are plenty of ways to entertain yourself without the need to stake something valuable.

This is where there is a big difference in how the player relates to the game and what he can lose if he loses.  If there are practically no bets in the game that are of some value to the player, well, of course, money is of paramount importance here, then the player’s attitude to the game is completely different.  He can calmly make stupid wrong moves, laugh or simply mock an opponent.  This game is more like a joke.  And if in the game bets are made with money, then the player has a completely different attitude to his moves.  He plays responsibly and deliberately.  And even if he loses, he will still consider that he simply did not have enough intelligence, experience or luck to win. 
In such cases, I always remember my experience of training in trading on demo accounts and in real trading.  For those who have tried training on demo accounts and in real trading, they clearly understand the difference in these processes.  By the way, therefore, it is not worth training in trading on a demo account.  It is better to do this with a very small amount of dollars or cryptocurrencies, but really betting with such money

[sompitonov]

As everyone has made it more clear that gambling is a form of being entertained and while going through this, we can also find a means to pick out some opportunities in this for making earnings through it but it must not be forgotten that gambling still remains gambling and not a permanent or best ideal way of making money, if we are interested in making money then we should go after making an investment, so also is what we do being recognized as gambling if we make use of money to bet for it, in doing so, we have also become a gambler at the process.

It is obvious that everyone that enters into gambling want to make some kind of profits from it whether our later interesting becomes a source of entertainment. People make money from gambling and also decided to see it as entertainment which is still very confusing to me. Since we are making money from gambling, I don't see it as entertainment unless we are ready to keep losing in gambling without any problem or caring about our loses. Since we want to make money from it, we become prepared and look for signals or people that will forecast games for us so that we can earn too from the market.

Those who entertain themselves through gambling are prepared to lose their money since they're aware it's likely to happen. But what matter to them is to enjoy the game and satisfy themselves regardless of the result (either win or lose).

We can't deny that what attract the most to gamble the money is because of the profit. If you're lucky it's easy to win in snap, same goes if you're unfortunate, you can lose it all. So if you don't want to lose your money, don't gamble since there are plenty of ways to entertain yourself without the need to stake something valuable.

There are people who are addicted to strong emotions. They are also called emotional addicts. They can get this dose of strong emotions and experiences from gambling, but the series will not give them so much. It depends very much on genetics, there is a certain predisposition to this.

I'm sure poker pro gamers are also heavily addicted to the game, but they've learned to control themselves and play with their bankroll. But only very few can do this. Therefore, if you can't control yourself, it's better not to even start.

[maydna]

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I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.

Games that previously did not use money can eventually use the money if the people who play them feel pleasure while playing. This has often happened because they didn't want to play gambling and just played normally. But after tasting the game and wanting to get some more fun, they decide to use the money between them. The winner will get the money, while the loser has to acknowledge the winner's ability. This we often experience with our friends when we play PlayStation or something else. And if it's like that, isn't that gambling? And on that site, previously, we only guessed who won, but later there will be bets, and maybe the site will also create its own token.

[elevates]

Games that previously did not use money can eventually use the money if the people who play them feel pleasure while playing. This has often happened because they didn't want to play gambling and just played normally. But after tasting the game and wanting to get some more fun, they decide to use the money between them. The winner will get the money, while the loser has to acknowledge the winner's ability. This we often experience with our friends when we play PlayStation or something else. And if it's like that, isn't that gambling? And on that site, previously, we only guessed who won, but later there will be bets, and maybe the site will also create its own token.

When you referred to Playstation I recalled that there was a time when Playstation gaming zone in my country was a den of illegal betting. It all started with guessing which player would win while playing FIFA and then it slowly moved to betting with money. Whether money was involved or not it will be counted as a gamble. After money got involved the gaming zone was making a lot of money as there were many better in that place. After a few days, they had to put in place security guards as the situation became critical with the crowd. When money is involved, things do get serious and sometime out of control.