The madness of gambling addicts.

[nullama]

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Gambling and drug addiction are difficult to overcome. Dopamine is a sneaky drug that makes the brain want more. However, your point about gambling addiction being easy to treat is somewhat true. Psychological control versus physiological chain; mental resolve versus chemical needs. The "big win" idea attracts gamblers financially. Financial sandpit. The key? Financial literacy and budgeting. Know the worth of money and the work it takes to get it might help many realise reality.

Entertainment is dual-purpose. It triggers and may treat. Alternative entertainment helps refocus the mind. Rewiring the brain's reward system is difficult. Physiological dependence hinders drug addiction recovery. Heartbreakingly common is your friend's struggle. Fitness loss and illness without drug? Body screams for its fix. Professional help is crucial, but only one part. Community support, empathy, and patience are essential.

Yeah, one of the key elements in recovering from an addiction is the social support.

If someone feels lonely, they will most likely continue with their addiction.

It is helpful to have others around you in those times. That is partly why things like AA work well for some people. The social aspect is built in with them.

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Gambling and drug addiction are difficult to overcome. Dopamine is a sneaky drug that makes the brain want more. However, your point about gambling addiction being easy to treat is somewhat true. Psychological control versus physiological chain; mental resolve versus chemical needs. The "big win" idea attracts gamblers financially. Financial sandpit. The key? Financial literacy and budgeting. Know the worth of money and the work it takes to get it might help many realise reality.

Entertainment is dual-purpose. It triggers and may treat. Alternative entertainment helps refocus the mind. Rewiring the brain's reward system is difficult. Physiological dependence hinders drug addiction recovery. Heartbreakingly common is your friend's struggle. Fitness loss and illness without drug? Body screams for its fix. Professional help is crucial, but only one part. Community support, empathy, and patience are essential.

Yeah, one of the key elements in recovering from an addiction is the social support.

If someone feels lonely, they will most likely continue with their addiction.

It is helpful to have others around you in those times. That is partly why things like AA work well for some people. The social aspect is built in with them.

Someone who is addicted to gambling really needs social support to cure their addiction and this support comes from close friends and family, someone who is lonely will not easily cure their addiction because they are unable to control themselves alone and need the help of other people so the role of these people is very important for an addict, if his family or friends care, they shouldn't mind helping with things like that because family and friends have to help each other.
If he intends to stop his addiction, the help of other people should make the recovery process easier and it doesn't need to take a long time.

[Ever-young]

I believe you are correct that the psychology of drug addiction and gambling addiction differs, despite certain similarities. Drug addiction causes the person to become physiologically reliant on the substance, and when they stop using it, their body may experience withdrawal symptoms. However, in cases of gambling addiction, the individual is typically psychologically addicted on the pleasure and excitement of gambling, and they may not feel physical withdrawal symptoms when they quit. This can make it more challenging to cure gambling addiction because it is harder to persuade someone to give up something they enjoy.

I think Drug addiction is far worse and harder to cure and I can witness that since all of those who get to serve in prison due to their drug addiction whether they were users or pushers, when they get out, they back to where they were left and they ended up becoming worse than before. Unlike most of whom I know that were used to gambling, they have completely changed and don't engage in cock fighting anymore or some Lottos rather they just continue living their lives normally as the others. Drugs lead users to become crazy and there are lots of people who become crazy here in our community right now.

If you really look at both, you'll realize that both gambling addiction and drug addiction can be very devastating in their own way so I wouldn't be wise to compare one to another.
With gambling addiction, a person is likely to loose everything they have, their job, home, family and even their lives. They may also experience financial problems, legal problems and even health problems as a result of their addiction.
And with drug addiction, a person may also lose everything they have,, they're also likely to experience physical health problems as well as legal problems. They may also lose their relationships as well as their mental health.
But one thing we know is that, a gambling addict is likely to take his own life out of frustration and depression but the chances of a drug addict taking his own life is slim.
So it's not really a question of which is worse, but rather a question of how each addiction affects each person's life individually, because they all have different ways they affect others.

[Betwrong]

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It used to be Dice for like several years when I only had started with my gambling career. Then I switched to poker(not Video Poker, but real poker with real people at the table). And it's slots for like 3-4 years. I really like playing slots with good animation and sounds. Also, I've been always doing sports betting ... in fact, there's probably no game in gambling that I haven't tried.

for some reason I didn't really find slots that I enjoyed playing

by gambling carreer you mean, for real? you live out of gambling?
or you mean more like your journey on it?

No no, I'm not living out of gambling. I  meant my journey on it. My profit from this journey is positive though. It's like several thousand dollars plus. But I know it's just Lady Luck was inclined to me. I have no idea how to actually live from gambling.

poker is definitely more enjoyable in person than online.

And again no, I meant online poker, but the one where real people are sitting at the table as opposed to Video Poker, which more like slots or online dice.

[Jody.Drummer]

Yes, both have elements that can make a person addicted or feel dependent, one of the things that makes a person unable or difficult to leave gambling because they have difficulty in reaching their consciousness and they cannot ignore something that looks very tempting that is there and for the drug itself, one of the things that makes a person addicted is because of the heroin substance that can make a person dependent, and actually for the problem of addiction to these two things over between gambling and drugs both have elements to increase dopamine levels in the brain which makes it difficult for someone to escape this habit.

But on the other hand for the handling problem, in my opinion, it is a little easier to handle people who are addicted to gambling than drug addiction, because gambling addiction depends on the desire of the person himself, what I mean is that if people who are addicted to gambling are really aware and have the determination to stop then they can do it, but for drugs, as I said above that there is an element of dependence, One of the things that makes me know about this is because I have one of my friends who is addicted to drugs, he really wants to quit but it's difficult, and one of the difficulties is that when he doesn't take drugs then he loses his fitness and gets sick which means he can't even work because his body becomes weak and this is what is called dependence.

Gambling and drug addiction are difficult to overcome. Dopamine is a sneaky drug that makes the brain want more. However, your point about gambling addiction being easy to treat is somewhat true. Psychological control versus physiological chain; mental resolve versus chemical needs. The "big win" idea attracts gamblers financially. Financial sandpit. The key? Financial literacy and budgeting. Know the worth of money and the work it takes to get it might help many realise reality.

Entertainment is dual-purpose. It triggers and may treat. Alternative entertainment helps refocus the mind. Rewiring the brain's reward system is difficult. Physiological dependence hinders drug addiction recovery. Heartbreakingly common is your friend's struggle. Fitness loss and illness without drug? Body screams for its fix. Professional help is crucial, but only one part. Community support, empathy, and patience are essential.

Especially when dopamine is encouraged or accompanied by expectations such as winning in gambling, it will obviously be more difficult for a gambler to stop, on the other hand, in my opinion and to my knowledge, gambling addiction is a little easier to overcome than drug addiction, Although both are addictions which means habits that are difficult to break but for gambling addiction itself is something that is in the brain and human desires, which can still be cured provided that he "wants" to change it based on awareness and you have mentioned several points that are suggested so that a gambler can achieve his awareness, one of which is by knowing and appreciating the value of money.

On the other hand I believe that at first someone who ends up addicted to either gambling or drugs they don't realize that these activities can make them end up with a lot of problems, such as gambling with financial problems and drugs that cause problems with their physical and fitness, at first maybe they just want pleasure especially someone who tries to taste drugs, because there is peace of mind as an effect but with a dose that is still within reasonable limits, but in the end the dose will increase over time and that triggers dependence. Honestly, it's very worrying to see my friend who always falls ill when it comes to recovering from drug addiction, but there's nothing I can do but comfort him and this is the process he has to go through to recover.

[Lucasgabd]

~snip~
Gambling and drug addiction are difficult to overcome. Dopamine is a sneaky drug that makes the brain want more. However, your point about gambling addiction being easy to treat is somewhat true. Psychological control versus physiological chain; mental resolve versus chemical needs. The "big win" idea attracts gamblers financially. Financial sandpit. The key? Financial literacy and budgeting. Know the worth of money and the work it takes to get it might help many realise reality.

Entertainment is dual-purpose. It triggers and may treat. Alternative entertainment helps refocus the mind. Rewiring the brain's reward system is difficult. Physiological dependence hinders drug addiction recovery. Heartbreakingly common is your friend's struggle. Fitness loss and illness without drug? Body screams for its fix. Professional help is crucial, but only one part. Community support, empathy, and patience are essential.

Yeah, one of the key elements in recovering from an addiction is the social support.

If someone feels lonely, they will most likely continue with their addiction.

It is helpful to have others around you in those times. That is partly why things like AA work well for some people. The social aspect is built in with them.

Yes. There’s something about holding yourself accountable after giving your word of honor to other people
Identifying what triggers your bas behaviors and addiction will be of good use on helping to avoid addiction, be it for new things or old habits

[Fredomago]

I believe you are correct that the psychology of drug addiction and gambling addiction differs, despite certain similarities. Drug addiction causes the person to become physiologically reliant on the substance, and when they stop using it, their body may experience withdrawal symptoms. However, in cases of gambling addiction, the individual is typically psychologically addicted on the pleasure and excitement of gambling, and they may not feel physical withdrawal symptoms when they quit. This can make it more challenging to cure gambling addiction because it is harder to persuade someone to give up something they enjoy.

I think Drug addiction is far worse and harder to cure and I can witness that since all of those who get to serve in prison due to their drug addiction whether they were users or pushers, when they get out, they back to where they were left and they ended up becoming worse than before. Unlike most of whom I know that were used to gambling, they have completely changed and don't engage in cock fighting anymore or some Lottos rather they just continue living their lives normally as the others. Drugs lead users to become crazy and there are lots of people who become crazy here in our community right now.

If you really look at both, you'll realize that both gambling addiction and drug addiction can be very devastating in their own way so I wouldn't be wise to compare one to another.
With gambling addiction, a person is likely to loose everything they have, their job, home, family and even their lives. They may also experience financial problems, legal problems and even health problems as a result of their addiction.
And with drug addiction, a person may also lose everything they have,, they're also likely to experience physical health problems as well as legal problems. They may also lose their relationships as well as their mental health.
But one thing we know is that, a gambling addict is likely to take his own life out of frustration and depression but the chances of a drug addict taking his own life is slim.
So it's not really a question of which is worse, but rather a question of how each addiction affects each person's life individually, because they all have different ways they affect others.

Agree to that,  the level of addiction would determine how a person acts, comparing these two with same level of addiction as you mentioned about the worse things that both can do to ruined their lives, both can exceed to something that unexpected just to proceed and please their addiction,  to the extent that they no longer minding to what fate is awaiting for them, the only concerns that they have is to make sure that they will be able to continue.

Both gambling addicted individuals and drug dependent person would not mind doing things that will let them to continue their addictions, the reason why we heard or watch  in the news that this kind of people do something illegal.

[Blowon]

this is the effect of gambling addiction and it is very real, even his own family is willing to blackmail him just because he is addicted to gambling, but if we gamble responsibly we will avoid the dangers of the effects of gambling addiction

[nullama]

this is the effect of gambling addiction and it is very real, even his own family is willing to blackmail him just because he is addicted to gambling, but if we gamble responsibly we will avoid the dangers of the effects of gambling addiction

Yeah, but that is the tricky thing for a lot of people.

You can also just say drink responsibly, but that doesn't mean you will immediately have less alcoholics.

It is a difficult thing to get rid of if you have that addiction.

It takes time as well.

[Lucasgabd]

this is the effect of gambling addiction and it is very real, even his own family is willing to blackmail him just because he is addicted to gambling, but if we gamble responsibly we will avoid the dangers of the effects of gambling addiction

Yeah, but that is the tricky thing for a lot of people.

You can also just say drink responsibly, but that doesn't mean you will immediately have less alcoholics.

It is a difficult thing to get rid of if you have that addiction.

It takes time as well.

yes, some habits are deeply engrained in our souls, it takes time, work and effort to correct them
not everyone is willing to do so or will have the necessary powers and support network to suceed.

it's definitely easier for some than others...

[nullama]

~snip~
yes, some habits are deeply engrained in our souls, it takes time, work and effort to correct them
not everyone is willing to do so or will have the necessary powers and support network to suceed.

it's definitely easier for some than others...

Yeah, but at the end of the day most people can do it, at least gradually.

It is hard of course, and everyone is different, but it is simply one day at a time.

[Lucasgabd]

~snip~
yes, some habits are deeply engrained in our souls, it takes time, work and effort to correct them
not everyone is willing to do so or will have the necessary powers and support network to suceed.

it's definitely easier for some than others...

Yeah, but at the end of the day most people can do it, at least gradually.

It is hard of course, and everyone is different, but it is simply one day at a time.

I agree, should be doable for everyone if they want
and I put it in bold because from practical experience I say that it's impossible to help someone who doesn't want to be helped
and no one is coming to save us, we have to find the best way in life by ourselves.

[nullama]

~snip~
I agree, should be doable for everyone if they want
and I put it in bold because from practical experience I say that it's impossible to help someone who doesn't want to be helped
and no one is coming to save us, we have to find the best way in life by ourselves.

Yeah, this is so true.

There is no way a person can be helped when they don't wan to be helped.

Most people would be happy in theory to receive practice, but in practice they would continue in their own ways if they haven't decided to change.

[junder]

If you really look at both, you'll realize that both gambling addiction and drug addiction can be very devastating in their own way so I wouldn't be wise to compare one to another.
With gambling addiction, a person is likely to loose everything they have, their job, home, family and even their lives. They may also experience financial problems, legal problems and even health problems as a result of their addiction.
And with drug addiction, a person may also lose everything they have,, they're also likely to experience physical health problems as well as legal problems. They may also lose their relationships as well as their mental health.
But one thing we know is that, a gambling addict is likely to take his own life out of frustration and depression but the chances of a drug addict taking his own life is slim.
So it's not really a question of which is worse, but rather a question of how each addiction affects each person's life individually, because they all have different ways they affect others.

That's true, indeed if they are addicted to gambling and are really addicted then there is a big possibility that they could lose a lot of things, not just money. like you said, work, home, family, life. because in my opinion, if they become addicted, they will become bolder and more determined to do things that take big risks, because they only think about winning, when they don't have money to gamble, they can take actions that are beyond common sense which can harm other people. , like stealing, robbing is clearly detrimental to other people, but with their desire to gamble they cannot be restrained so that there is a big possibility that they can do this. in terms of financial problems, in my opinion, that is the main thing they definitely experience, because they only think about gambling, there is also a possibility that they can take out loans and when they have money they will not think about paying off their debts, most likely they will just go back to gambling hope that gambling can provide big wins so that their lives can change drastically and they can pay off their debts. Gambling addiction is a big problem, because your life will become messy, you will be in debt or restless when you can't gamble. So the impulse from their minds that only think about gambling can make them carry out unreasonable actions. really scary in my opinion.

In my opinion, these two things have the same negative impacts that are not much different, money, family, health, security. These are all things that can happen if they are addicted to one of these things, especially if they are addicted to both, their life may not be peaceful every day. Gambling can cause excessive stress which may damage us mentally so that we become mentally ill, the same as drug addiction. especially with drugs that are clearly consumed by oneself, which is very bad for your health. It is clear that any addiction can make them lose their world.

[LUCKMCFLY]

~snip~
yes, some habits are deeply engrained in our souls, it takes time, work and effort to correct them
not everyone is willing to do so or will have the necessary powers and support network to suceed.

it's definitely easier for some than others...

Yeah, but at the end of the day most people can do it, at least gradually.

It is hard of course, and everyone is different, but it is simply one day at a time.

I agree, should be doable for everyone if they want
and I put it in bold because from practical experience I say that it's impossible to help someone who doesn't want to be helped
and no one is coming to save us, we have to find the best way in life by ourselves.

Well, the way you talk means to me that you are supported by a person who does like to help, but when you need help from others, no one gives it to you, and I think that has happened to a lot of people, well it has happened to many of us, But I think we have to start from that so that we don't get disappointed in those things, at least I'm very happy when I know that I'm helping a person, whether with words or whatever, but helping, do you know why? because that is the only thing that we practically come to this life to help, and to serve, because apart from that you have not realized that you help someone, with whatever it is, because it is a great satisfaction, I know that many people are not like that, but even when We feel that no one helps us and if we have a place to help, then in some way life rewards us, I say something, we will never be alone, sometimes a person can have a lot of money and be a multi-millionaire, but they don't have the health that we need. Also, they don't have the happiness that we still have even though they have so much money, because those things sometimes don't matter.

Here in the forum there are people who need help, they don't say it, but I know they need it, sometimes these types of topics are understandable because there are many ways of thinking and many ways of seeing the problems, but sometimes a piece of advice, no matter how It's silly that it seems, it helps, or can help someone get out of their addiction or that condition, in fact we are people at some point because we have to help, we have to serve others, and then we don't have to suffer, but through our children we could see those Blessings , or through our loved ones, that is something that goes away like that, but I have seen that people who act badly, in some way in the vine pay for it, and keep in mind Surely before dying you pay for the bad that you have done, and we don't know what comes after death, etnoncs the more we can help people I think that is the idea of this, of the thread, of the forum, of everything.

[summonerrk]

this is the effect of gambling addiction and it is very real, even his own family is willing to blackmail him just because he is addicted to gambling, but if we gamble responsibly we will avoid the dangers of the effects of gambling addiction

Each family has its own reaction to the discovery of a problem gambler in their family. Someone will start to panic and drag this player to clinics, where most likely the player will be locked up with drug addicts, greatly worsening the situation with his self-esteem, and relationships with others in general. This is the wrong approach and I highly condemn it. I believe that gambling addiction and drug addiction are completely different illnesses, and it is possible that gambling addiction is much worse.

And in some families they continue to give money to the gambler and pay off debts for him. And of course this is a mistake, the first thing that should be done is to make the gambler realize that he has made a huge mistake. And only when he understands everything psychologically, only then can you begin to correct his mistakes with him.

[nullama]

~snip~
Each family has its own reaction to the discovery of a problem gambler in their family. Someone will start to panic and drag this player to clinics, where most likely the player will be locked up with drug addicts, greatly worsening the situation with his self-esteem, and relationships with others in general. This is the wrong approach and I highly condemn it. I believe that gambling addiction and drug addiction are completely different illnesses, and it is possible that gambling addiction is much worse.

And in some families they continue to give money to the gambler and pay off debts for him. And of course this is a mistake, the first thing that should be done is to make the gambler realize that he has made a huge mistake. And only when he understands everything psychologically, only then can you begin to correct his mistakes with him.

They are behaviors more than illnesses in my mind, because you can't really just "get" an addiction.

You basically start doing a behavior that gets more and more intense over time. Every decision is made from the person, there's no "catching" an addiction like a cold or flu, or even cancer, etc.

The good news about it is that in theory you could simply change your behavior and you are "cured". Of course it is difficult, but it shouldn't require medical intervention in theory.

[hyudien]

this is the effect of gambling addiction and it is very real, even his own family is willing to blackmail him just because he is addicted to gambling, but if we gamble responsibly we will avoid the dangers of the effects of gambling addiction

Each family has its own reaction to the discovery of a problem gambler in their family. Someone will start to panic and drag this player to clinics, where most likely the player will be locked up with drug addicts, greatly worsening the situation with his self-esteem, and relationships with others in general. This is the wrong approach and I highly condemn it. I believe that gambling addiction and drug addiction are completely different illnesses, and it is possible that gambling addiction is much worse.

And in some families they continue to give money to the gambler and pay off debts for him. And of course this is a mistake, the first thing that should be done is to make the gambler realize that he has made a huge mistake. And only when he understands everything psychologically, only then can you begin to correct his mistakes with him.

If an addict is already troubling their family, it means they are at such a bad level that they involve others (even if it's their own family) in their problems. The response from the family will indeed vary, they might become super protective and some might even just let it go because maybe they already know and the person cannot be advised anymore. Usually an addict will not regret their actions as long as they have not realized their mistakes, they will even tend to make justifications, at all costs. The role of the family is very important in this case, the family is the closest person, unless those who have addiction are closed. But the family should have been able to realize his habits from the beginning, because there are usually changes in behavior and so on.
I often imagine, what if an addict comes from a simple family? Maybe for someone who has a rich family it can still help him (although there is nothing right in this), but when it happens to a simple family then the pressure will be even greater. It's a huge blow to have to solve a problem that shouldn't have happened in the first place.

[bakasabo]

Family is important, but the most important is who has the authority in family. I doubt that in some countries, if father is a heavy gambler, he will listen to what his wife says. I would stress on the following, to be able to cure gambling addiction, one source of help (like family) is not enough. In must be a combination of methods. Family help, facilities (doctors), change of object of interest, influence of friends (maybe try to decrease their influence if they are gamblers).

[Fredomago]

~snip~
Each family has its own reaction to the discovery of a problem gambler in their family. Someone will start to panic and drag this player to clinics, where most likely the player will be locked up with drug addicts, greatly worsening the situation with his self-esteem, and relationships with others in general. This is the wrong approach and I highly condemn it. I believe that gambling addiction and drug addiction are completely different illnesses, and it is possible that gambling addiction is much worse.

And in some families they continue to give money to the gambler and pay off debts for him. And of course this is a mistake, the first thing that should be done is to make the gambler realize that he has made a huge mistake. And only when he understands everything psychologically, only then can you begin to correct his mistakes with him.

They are behaviors more than illnesses in my mind, because you can't really just "get" an addiction.

You basically start doing a behavior that gets more and more intense over time. Every decision is made from the person, there's no "catching" an addiction like a cold or flu, or even cancer, etc.

The good news about it is that in theory you could simply change your behavior and you are "cured". Of course it is difficult, but it shouldn't require medical intervention in theory.

And I hope that it's just simply as how theory stated it, but it's not most of the time, maybe there are gamblers who got addicted and manage to cope up by doing that, just change their behaviors and they are already been cured, but most of the time, there's a big help that's needed aside from personal care there's also professional interventions if the level of addiction is already on the maximim side, there are many things that needed to address, factors that may help the person to re-assess his way of treating gambling and start changing his direction to help his ownself to quit away.

Family is important, but the most important is who has the authority in family. I doubt that in some countries, if father is a heavy gambler, he will listen to what his wife says. I would stress on the following, to be able to cure gambling addiction, one source of help (like family) is not enough. In must be a combination of methods. Family help, facilities (doctors), change of object of interest, influence of friends (maybe try to decrease their influence if they are gamblers).

All will work if the they have same level of care, I see your point and it will really help to assess the authority of one person in a gambler's life, it will be helpful if the person really respect the person who's trying to help. The more he engage to that person the better chance that he might listen and start trying to follow his advise.