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December 11, 2023, 06:57:26 AM Last edit: December 11, 2023, 07:35:51 AM by Ondekinecakabilirim |
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This week Kayserispor beat Pendikspor 2-0 and took the 3rd place in the league. They have 6 wins and 1 draw in their last 7 games under coach Recep Uçar. We have to say that they have shown a very successful performance. While Trabzonspor and Beşiktaş were far away from the top of the league this season, they approached the top of the league with their successful performances. I watched 90 minutes of some of their games this season and I think they can finish this season above Trabzonspor and Beşiktaş. A few years ago they received a transfer ban from the FIFA. They avoided relegation at the last moment. But they did a very good restructuring. And they are getting great results this season.
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December 11, 2023, 09:59:30 AM |
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Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.
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December 11, 2023, 10:05:28 AM |
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this season the competition for the title is more competitive than last season, although last season was also well contested until the last games at the end of the league, but it seems to me that this season fenerbahce and galatasaray are trying hard not to make too many mistakes which would lead them to lose points, with 15 games that both teams played, both teams had only one defeat, but Fenerbahce managed to surpass Galatasaray in the number of goals, Fenerbahce managed to score 41 goals while Galatasaray scored 31 goals, the attack Fenerbahce's team is very strong compared to Galatasaray's, but in European competitions Fenerbahce's attack has been inefficient and so has its defense.
and talking about the defense of these two teams, I don't see much of a difference, Galatasaray conceded 9 goals while Fenerbahce conceded 11 goals, it's not a big difference in terms of defensive performance that these two teams are having, so we'll see which of the two teams will make fewer mistakes and will be champions, Galatasaray in my opinion has more advantage in this race for the title, they have a good squad capable of competing in European competitions and in the local league, although Fenerbahce also has a good squad, I still hope until in the last round to convince me that they can be champions
The Turkish Super Lig is one league that's been having a wide point margin between their title holder and the other teams but this season both top teams have actually been playing averagely and their end result is more or less thesame with a difference in just the goal margins, It's not so bad though but it'd mean that one team would have to put extra work to their game delivery if they want to secure the trophy, Fernabache and Galatasaray are good teams with good quality of players and both are capable of making the contest tough. But we await who'd be the greatest of them all. Besiktas on the other hand are trying their best in what they do, they still have greater possibilities of excelling in the league and when efforts are out in the team, it'll yield good outcomes Galatasaray and Fernabache are making the struggle for the league trophy more difficult because they are giving thesame victory energy and aura, the points gathered, the goal differences, they're seemingly the toughest team in the league and their victory is so certain. In a long while in the Turkish League, deciding the league's winner will take a while because these two teams are good at what they do. They play to win, and their next league game would undoubtedly end up as a victory for them both because their opponents are the opposite of them in all aspects, they're making the league's football more fun especially when it has to do with these two teams. We await the challenge amongst themselves and we're anticipating the winner. Do not be surprised though that the points will be shared eventually by both teams.
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December 11, 2023, 11:39:53 AM |
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I think Beşiktaş-Fenerbahçe derby was very enjoyable to watch for average football fan. It had dramatic moments. Anyways, let's summarize it: we watched very inefficient Beşiktaş, probably having issues with new manager right now. They need more time to recover. Fenerbahçe players were mainly tired so it was bit tougher than usual for them. I think referee's decisions were all okay and acceptable. Fenerbahçe is still favourite of average gambler in my opinion. They are stronger even for above average opponents.
But in my opinion the match did not go according to expectations because Besiktas could not perform optimally and in that match Fenerbahce was much more dominant in controlling the game in every aspect, now Besiktas is not in very good condition. It may be true that conditions like this are experienced by Besiktas because of the presence of new manager, but the decline due to the presence of new manager like this should not have significant impact. Besiktas defeat also made them further away from the competition for position in the standings and of course Fenerbahce will always be the favorites unless they meet Galatasaray maybe things will be different. Kayserispor beat Pendikspor 2-0. They are currently in 3rd place in the League. Pendikspor is a relegation candidate. They will most likely be relegated.
Yes, Kayserispor managed to get win without reply in yesterday match and they managed to beat Trabzonspor by 3 points, but they all have no chance of becoming runners-up this season because the League has been dominated by Fenerbahce and Galatasaray. Moreover, difference of 11 points is number that is impossible to catch. This defeat means that Pendikspor has the opportunity to be relegated if in the future it continues to experience the same conditions.
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December 11, 2023, 01:48:01 PM |
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Kayserispor have started to improve their form.Kayserispor, who have been on the rise in recent weeks, won 2-0 in their match against Pendikspor yesterday and managed to increase their points to 29.Thus, although they do not have much chance in the championship race, they still show that they are a strong competitor.With this win, they moved to 3rd place.If we look at the overall game, they played a good game, but Pendikspor did not play badly either.They want to get out of the relegation line, but the transfers they will make between the halves will make them a team with more potential. In the last match of the day yesterday, we watched Gaziantep FK - Trabzonspor.Trabzonspor played a good game in this away match and got 3 points with 3 goals.The match actually started in the second half for them.The first half ended in a goalless draw, but Trabzonspor, who reflected their will to win from the first minutes of the second half, did not have difficulty in finding goals.
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December 11, 2023, 02:19:58 PM |
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Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.
I think Beşiktaş should have done this decision much earlier so players would realize what are they dealing with. Such kind of lack of discipline is not tolerable. Beşiktaş was showing very bad performance especially in defense. Ghezzal never played like once he was, he was much better player in past. I think this will heal Beşiktaş wounds. They need to complete quick transfers at winter and terminate contract of such players if they wanna leave.
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December 11, 2023, 02:26:41 PM |
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Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.
Beşiktaş should send Aboubakar out of the team, this kind of player should not be kept in any team. A player who only plays for money and plays when he feels like it. Aboubakar has done this behavior before but Beşiktaş bought him again.
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December 11, 2023, 04:56:24 PM |
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Kayserispor have started to improve their form.Kayserispor, who have been on the rise in recent weeks, won 2-0 in their match against Pendikspor yesterday and managed to increase their points to 29.Thus, although they do not have much chance in the championship race, they still show that they are a strong competitor.With this win, they moved to 3rd place.If we look at the overall game, they played a good game, but Pendikspor did not play badly either.They want to get out of the relegation line, but the transfers they will make between the halves will make them a team with more potential. In the last match of the day yesterday, we watched Gaziantep FK - Trabzonspor.Trabzonspor played a good game in this away match and got 3 points with 3 goals.The match actually started in the second half for them.The first half ended in a goalless draw, but Trabzonspor, who reflected their will to win from the first minutes of the second half, did not have difficulty in finding goals.
Kayserispor has been drawing my attention in recent weeks. They really win almost every match, they are doing very well, but due to the points they lost at the beginning of the season, there are a lot of points between them and the top 2 teams. However, if they continue to play like this, Kayserispor may be having one of the best seasons in its history. It's a pretty good thing for them, maybe we'll watch them in European matches too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 11, 2023, 05:11:36 PM |
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Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.
Beşiktaş should send Aboubakar out of the team, this kind of player should not be kept in any team. A player who only plays for money and plays when he feels like it. Aboubakar has done this behavior before but Beşiktaş bought him again. Aboubakar is one of the most important players in the Besiktas squad. But players should be professional. But although Aboubakar is a good player, I don't see professional behavior from him. This is why the Besiktas management took the decision to keep Aboubakar out of the squad. I would say it is the right decision. If Aboubakar had continued with such unprofessional behavior and the management had not taken any action, it would have had an adverse effect on Besiktas' squad. Other players in the squad would also be furious.
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December 11, 2023, 06:36:02 PM |
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Could someone explain to me what happened so suddenly with all this many players are out? Was there like some sort of rebellion in the team by these players or something?
I mean I have heard the news that they have changed their president, that much is definitely known and published everywhere, but "why" these players are out of the roster is not shared, was there like some fight? Did these players fought between each other? That doesn't seem like something that happened because if it was then it would have been shared everywhere, but I wanted to make sure if I missed anything. What was the reason why all these many (and quite good) players are suddenly not in the roster? Seems like they are fine at third place, not like they are doing terrible.
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December 11, 2023, 06:45:41 PM |
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Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.
I especially don't understand the attitude of Aboubakar. How can you have a hair transplant but act like you are ill? There is a derby game ahead of your team and you are dealing with these things. This is a disciplinary action for certain and I believe that Besiktas did the right thing by leaving him out of squad as of now. I wouldn't expect this from Aboubakar honestly. He has a history with Besiktas and he had good memories in the past also. However his performance in the recent times hasn't been good at all. So they might not even feel his absence after this.
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December 11, 2023, 07:45:58 PM |
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Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.
Did Aboubakar choose the times when the league was being played to have his hair transplanted? He should have been able to postpone a simple procedure for health reasons until the end of the league. Even the fact that he doesn't do this shows that he doesn't think about the team. The dismissal of staff by the new management is considered positive as an indicator of taking a stance. It is also said that he asked his manager to find a team in Arabia. It looks like he will go to Saudi Arabia again.
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December 11, 2023, 08:32:05 PM |
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Unfortunately, with a registered terrorist at the head of the federation, football in Türkiye is going through the dirtiest period in its history. They beat a referee today. The fact that that referee is a registered match-fixer is on the one hand, and on the other hand, this dirty person who is still trying to manage a match when he should be imprisoned is attacked on the field by the dirty names of a dirty club. Turkish football has truly sunk to its lowest point. In such an environment, which match should we talk about, how should we talk about the game on the field? The decisions made by the referees are no longer wrong, they are clearly made to change the score. People can't tolerate this anymore. Think a thousand times before betting on Turkish league matches. The results of the matches are not determined on the field.
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December 11, 2023, 09:46:25 PM |
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This was a really bad for the Turkish Super League. I can't believe that Ankaragücü chairman Faruk Koca came to the pitch and punched the referee Halil Umut Meler. This terrible action can't be defended in any way. Maybe you aren't satisfied with the management of the match. But punching people isn't the solution to this. I wonder whether there will be any sanctions on Ankaragücü team after this action. Because they totally deserve a punishment. I also don't like the referees who make mistakes more than normal. But I never side with such action to be taken. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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December 11, 2023, 10:27:30 PM |
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There is no excuse for anyone to ever attack a person for doing their job. If you think a ref is a match-fixer (which isn't to be fair) you go through the proper channels to make sure they get punishment for it, asking for an elite level ref (literally graded the best in our league by UEFA) as a match fixer bad person is technically saying "this person deserved it because he was fixing a game", it is obvious from the start that there is absolutely no excuse for anything like this, no proof of it neither, and definitely no excuse, the president and the team should be just banned. Take the president to years of jail (trying to beat up a government official for doing his job and yes refs are government employees) and the team to much lower league, hell to amateur league if you want to, that's how people will learn to control themselves. This is disgusting by the team president, and I really hope law would finally do the right thing and I hope the ref would sue the president for every lira he has, I want the ref to have tens of millions of dollars in damages reward and I want to see that president living in poverty (and mostly in jail) for the rest of his life. Thats what the deserved outcome is.
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December 12, 2023, 10:04:12 AM |
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What happened last night is a disgrace. There is nothing to say, even if the referees made right or wrong decisions, you can't do that. They destroyed the reputation of our country. The punishment should be severe but there will be no punishment because there is no justice in the country.
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December 12, 2023, 10:10:26 AM |
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Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.
I think Beşiktaş should have done this decision much earlier so players would realize what are they dealing with. Such kind of lack of discipline is not tolerable. Beşiktaş was showing very bad performance especially in defense. Ghezzal never played like once he was, he was much better player in past. I think this will heal Beşiktaş wounds. They need to complete quick transfers at winter and terminate contract of such players if they wanna leave. Yeah you are right Besiktas has posed a very poor performance lately because they have actually lose a lot of there home matches they were supposed to take advantage of, however there last match against Fenerbahce was very interesting match but Besiktas performance was nothing to right home about and they had to conceive there first goal on the 10 minutes of the match which they later equalize on the 24 minutes but however with the opportunity Fenerbahce had on that match if they had utilize most of them they would have scored Besiktas up to 4-1. Yeah actually Besiktas truly need to make some good decisions during the transfer window because for them to really improve well they seriously need some good and talented players that would help and enhance the performance of the team but however considering there last match performance is quite obvious that they really need to also make some adjustments on there defense line.
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December 12, 2023, 12:36:13 PM |
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There is no excuse for anyone to ever attack a person for doing their job. If you think a ref is a match-fixer (which isn't to be fair) you go through the proper channels to make sure they get punishment for it, asking for an elite level ref (literally graded the best in our league by UEFA) as a match fixer bad person is technically saying "this person deserved it because he was fixing a game", it is obvious from the start that there is absolutely no excuse for anything like this, no proof of it neither, and definitely no excuse, the president and the team should be just banned. Take the president to years of jail (trying to beat up a government official for doing his job and yes refs are government employees) and the team to much lower league, hell to amateur league if you want to, that's how people will learn to control themselves. This is disgusting by the team president, and I really hope law would finally do the right thing and I hope the ref would sue the president for every lira he has, I want the ref to have tens of millions of dollars in damages reward and I want to see that president living in poverty (and mostly in jail) for the rest of his life. Thats what the deserved outcome is.
Despite the fact that we're human beings and we get emotional we should learn to control our emotions, the chairman of Ankaragücü made a very wrong move by coming into the pitch to punch an officiating ref, what he did was uncalled for no matter what the situation maybe be, cause it's a big embracement to the Turkish football body and justice must take it's course, cause he must be punished for hitting a referee no matter his position in his club. I remember last season when Jose Mourinho insulted and almost attacked a referee he claimed was being biased in the Europa League Final againt Sevilla, he was punished severely for his actions, therefore the (FIFA) body should look into the issue and ensure that the defaulters face the right punishment for their actions, else it would keep repeating itself and anyone could just run into the pitch and hit a play or officials.
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December 12, 2023, 04:44:15 PM |
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Yesterday, Super League referee Halil Umut Meler was beaten in the match.Ankaragücü team executives who jumped on the field with the final whistle of the match beat Halil Umut Meler.After this incident, the TFF decided to postpone the leagues immediately and the referees had decided not to go to the matches before that. At the moment, the leagues in Turkey have been postponed indefinitely.Some people find this wrong, but some find it right.There are also many who think that the TFF took a hasty decision.If the match, which was not postponed when Fenerbahçe's bus was shot at the time, is now postponed because the referee was beaten, this is a complete nonsense.
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December 12, 2023, 06:39:49 PM |
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What happened last night is a disgrace. There is nothing to say, even if the referees made right or wrong decisions, you can't do that. They destroyed the reputation of our country. The punishment should be severe but there will be no punishment because there is no justice in the country.
Yes a pure disgrace, unbelievable actually its something that I kind of expected, there is so much emphasis put on respect in the game, it just goes to show there is no respect. I stopped watching football a few years ago, too much negativity, for me it outweighs the beautiful moments in the sport. You are probably right about there being no punishment... https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/turkish-club-president-arrested-punching-referee-minister-2023-12-12/The club president Koca was twice elected to Turkey's parliament as part of President Tayyip Erdogan's ruling AK Party. It could go two ways, he will either be hung out to dry or protected by his political friends.
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