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Question: 2023/24 Season Champion?  (Voting closed: September 22, 2023, 09:57:02 AM)
Beşiktaş - 8 (36.4%)
Fenerbahçe - 5 (22.7%)
Galatasaray - 9 (40.9%)
Trabzonspor - 0 (0%)
Other - 0 (0%)
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October 10, 2023, 05:56:05 PM
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I expect Fenerbahce to go unbeaten until the Adana Demirspor game, so if they don't have any trouble winning until then, they will have won 21 official matches in a row. I think this will be a new record in the history of the club. There will be matches that İsmail Kartalal and his team will not be forced to play, but I see Adana Demirspor as the biggest problem at the moment. We can already say that it won't be an easy game away from Adana.

You are right, Adana Demirspor also beat Beşiktaş. They are a strong team that could be a problem for Fenerbahçe. They were eliminated by penalties in the European cups and almost skipped the round. They have a nice and experienced staff. They have the power to beat any team. They also pose a danger for Galatasaray. They became one of the best Anatolian teams this year. It will be a difficult away game for Fenerbahçe.

 
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October 10, 2023, 07:11:44 PM
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You are right, Adana Demirspor also beat Beşiktaş. They are a strong team that could be a problem for Fenerbahçe. They were eliminated by penalties in the European cups and almost skipped the round. They have a nice and experienced staff. They have the power to beat any team. They also pose a danger for Galatasaray. They became one of the best Anatolian teams this year. It will be a difficult away game for Fenerbahçe.

I don't think Adana Demirspor will be a big trouble for these teams. They may steal some points but in the end they won't be a threat for top 3 position. They have a good squad but their general experience is lacking.

Beşiktaş announced that they will go on with Burak Yılmaz as manager until they make the election in December. I think that was the right decision. If new board want to work with new manager they can do that. I'm not sure if chairman will be changed though. Fans don't want Ahmet Nur Çebi but voters may think different. We will see soon.

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October 10, 2023, 07:47:56 PM
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Beşiktaş's squad is actually not bad. Most of the players are successful players playing for their national teams. Aboubakar has an extra performance. The squad including Ghezzal has become very strong. Gedson Fernandes is a great player. Goalkeeper Mert will be a great goalkeeper if he recovers from his injury. Thanks to him, they won the draw against Club Brugge. Cenk is a very experienced player in the forward line. Yes, Galatasaray's squad is the most valuable squad in the Super League, but Beşiktaş is a team that can beat any team in this league.

Squad quality is definitely not bad. But there is no depth in the squad, the quality of players coming off the bench remains low. When there is an injured or suspended player, the first 11 is negatively affected. Also, the team doesn't have an ideal starting 11. I think these were the biggest reasons. With the departure of Şenol Güneş, a new era is entering. It was a good win when Burak Yılmaz was at the helm of the team, but it must be admitted that it was an easy match. If Burak Yılmaz is the manager again in the Galatasaray match, it will be a big test for both him and the team.

I think it is not right for Burak Yılmaz to remain at the helm of Beşiktaş as a coach because he has just left football and I do not find it right for him to manage a match at the head of such a big team without being fully developed technically. Of course, he may be the head of the team temporarily, but I think it is too early to serve as head coach.

I agree with you.
Beşiktaş needs an experienced coach. Those who will be coaching for the first time should not work in big teams.
They should gain experience in small teams and then come to big teams if they are successful.

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October 11, 2023, 04:52:51 PM
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Abdullah Avcı is heading to Trabzonspor again. He made Trabzonspor champions years later and resigned after receiving very bad results the following season. Here we see the situation of returning to the same manager, as is the case with most Turkish teams. In case of failure, the manager is sent immediately, and when the new arrival is not successful, the old managers are turned to again. This situation is now taken for granted by everyone.
Abdullah Avcı had his best points average in Trabzonspor. He can help Trabzonspor get back on its feet, which has been going through bad times lately. They are a team that should be in the championship race, they shouldn't throw in the towel on the league too early.

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October 11, 2023, 05:00:08 PM
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The Bjelica era did not last long in Trabzonspor. In fact, a stable and good journey was wanted to be started with Bjelica, but we can say that the game played in the league and the points lost helped Bjelica to be fired early. Another Abdullah Avci era will begin and I wonder what Trabzonspor, who managed to win 3 trophies under Abdullah Avci, will do this time. Trabzonspor, who completed the 2020-2021 season with Abdullah Avcı as champion, put Abdullah Avcı in the Technical Director's seat in order to regain those old days.
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October 11, 2023, 06:27:53 PM
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I expect Fenerbahce to go unbeaten until the Adana Demirspor game, so if they don't have any trouble winning until then, they will have won 21 official matches in a row. I think this will be a new record in the history of the club. There will be matches that İsmail Kartalal and his team will not be forced to play, but I see Adana Demirspor as the biggest problem at the moment. We can already say that it won't be an easy game away from Adana.

You are right, Adana Demirspor also beat Beşiktaş. They are a strong team that could be a problem for Fenerbahçe. They were eliminated by penalties in the European cups and almost skipped the round. They have a nice and experienced staff. They have the power to beat any team. They also pose a danger for Galatasaray. They became one of the best Anatolian teams this year. It will be a difficult away game for Fenerbahçe.
Adana Demirspor could join to appear in the Turkish Super League for only three seasons but they were able to survive and show how great they are who can compete with the top teams and have even surpassed some teams that have been playing in the League for long time.
Now Adana Demirspor is in third position and has great potential to become tough competitor for Fenerbahce and Galatasaray it seems that the strength of Adana Demirspor cannot be underestimated by the top teams.
Maybe in the future they will be team that can win the Turkish Super League title if they can continue to develop every season and of course try to compete to beat the top teams.

In the next three matches Adana Demirspor still has chance to win but in the fourth match they have to face Fenerbahce but in this match they have home advantage so they can optimize their game to at least give satisfactory result.

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October 11, 2023, 06:58:47 PM
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I believe that Ahmet Nur Çebi shouldn't be elected for the presidency once again. Besiktas would make use of a much better president now. First they should do this and after that they can go for taking the right steps. I wonder how long it will take Besiktas to finish this process as well. Because for now Burak Yilmaz is managing the team temporarily. I wonder if they will wait for their new president to be decided before bringing a new manager to the team.

The candidates for their manager position currently are said to be Riza Calimbay and Slaven Bilic. It is like going back to the point they started.  Grin
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I believe that Ahmet Nur Çebi shouldn't be elected for the presidency once again. Besiktas would make use of a much better president now. First they should do this and after that they can go for taking the right steps. I wonder how long it will take Besiktas to finish this process as well. Because for now Burak Yilmaz is managing the team temporarily. I wonder if they will wait for their new president to be decided before bringing a new manager to the team.

The candidates for their manager position currently are said to be Riza Calimbay and Slaven Bilic. It is like going back to the point they started.  Grin

Whoever will be the new president of the club must be a rich person. The club has been paying debts for a long time and is trying to reduce debts. The new president must be someone who can both reduce debts and make investments. Beşiktaş now needs to get trophies. There is no salvation for the club otherwise. If success doesn't come, money won't come, good players won't come. Then a vicious circle is entered. This shouldn't happen.
If a good president comes, a good manager will also come. Things may improve in the team. Some time is needed. Elections will be held in December. Presidential candidates aren't finalized at this time.

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October 14, 2023, 07:10:37 PM
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Abdullah Avcı is heading to Trabzonspor again. He made Trabzonspor champions years later and resigned after receiving very bad results the following season. Here we see the situation of returning to the same manager, as is the case with most Turkish teams. In case of failure, the manager is sent immediately, and when the new arrival is not successful, the old managers are turned to again. This situation is now taken for granted by everyone.
Abdullah Avcı had his best points average in Trabzonspor. He can help Trabzonspor get back on its feet, which has been going through bad times lately. They are a team that should be in the championship race, they shouldn't throw in the towel on the league too early.
I am so sick of this cycle actually. Same thing happens for every big team. There are only number of coaches that keep circling around. For example, there was Mustafa Denizli, who was mentioned every time a coach was fired from the big 3. Thank god he is mostly retired. For Galatasaray, of course it is Fatih Terim. I believe he was coach for 4 or 5 times. He is the only one who was successful on multiple times. Beşiktaş did the same thing with Şenol Güneş. And now that he is fired, I heard people talked about Sergen Yalçın and Samet Aybaba. These things need to stop and the whole Turkish football should come up with new strategies.
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October 14, 2023, 07:51:13 PM
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I believe that Ahmet Nur Çebi shouldn't be elected for the presidency once again. Besiktas would make use of a much better president now. First they should do this and after that they can go for taking the right steps. I wonder how long it will take Besiktas to finish this process as well. Because for now Burak Yilmaz is managing the team temporarily. I wonder if they will wait for their new president to be decided before bringing a new manager to the team.

The candidates for their manager position currently are said to be Riza Calimbay and Slaven Bilic. It is like going back to the point they started.  Grin

Slaven Bilic is one of my favorite coaches, I would love to see him again in Beşiktaş. I think he is a very successful name, but I know that he is currently working with another team and his contract will continue for two more years. I don't know if they can transfer him to Besiktaş while the situation is like this. But if he comes to the team, they can see good days

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October 14, 2023, 09:22:25 PM
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Returning to the Super League with a derby match will be really exciting. Maybe Fenerbahçe can benefit from this match week as well. But I doubt Beşiktaş a lot in this derby match. Because they are going to be the away side and their current condition isn't very good. They are having tough days recently.

After Şenol Güneş has got sacked I wonder what they will do with Burak Yılmaz in this temporary time period. I see Aboubakar performing really great these days so Galatasaray would need to focus on defending him strongly.

I think that Galatasaray are highly favourite side to win this derby match for now.

 
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October 14, 2023, 09:29:36 PM
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Returning to the Super League with a derby match will be really exciting. Maybe Fenerbahçe can benefit from this match week as well. But I doubt Beşiktaş a lot in this derby match. Because they are going to be the away side and their current condition isn't very good. They are having tough days recently.

After Şenol Güneş has got sacked I wonder what they will do with Burak Yılmaz in this temporary time period. I see Aboubakar performing really great these days so Galatasaray would need to focus on defending him strongly.

I think that Galatasaray are highly favourite side to win this derby match for now.
Aboubakar, as always, is a highly skilled striker and is someone who knows the Super League well, so he continues his goal-scoring mission from where he left off. There are other problems in the team, for now, Burak Yılmaz will serve as the interim coach, just before the derby. In fact, if Beşiktaş wins this derby, it will be a very important opportunity for Burak Yılmaz.

Galatasaray's situation is obvious and there is no need to say much, it is having a very productive season and it is the absolute favorite in this match.

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October 14, 2023, 09:37:22 PM
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Returning to the Super League with a derby match will be really exciting. Maybe Fenerbahçe can benefit from this match week as well. But I doubt Beşiktaş a lot in this derby match. Because they are going to be the away side and their current condition isn't very good. They are having tough days recently.

After Şenol Güneş has got sacked I wonder what they will do with Burak Yılmaz in this temporary time period. I see Aboubakar performing really great these days so Galatasaray would need to focus on defending him strongly.

I think that Galatasaray are highly favourite side to win this derby match for now.

I think Burak Yılmaz's player selections are wrong. Because he is still not playing the right players. Everyone knows that Galatasaray is the favorite in this derby.
I think there is no chance for Beşiktaş to win this match.
I will go and watch the match next week, I think it will be very enjoyable for Galatasaray fans.(For me)

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October 15, 2023, 12:22:05 PM
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Aboubakar, as always, is a highly skilled striker and is someone who knows the Super League well, so he continues his goal-scoring mission from where he left off. There are other problems in the team, for now, Burak Yılmaz will serve as the interim coach, just before the derby. In fact, if Beşiktaş wins this derby, it will be a very important opportunity for Burak Yılmaz.

Galatasaray's situation is obvious and there is no need to say much, it is having a very productive season and it is the absolute favorite in this match.

There are no favorites in derbies, and favorites generally don't win in derbies.
Aboubakar scored most of his goals with his individual skills. Beşiktaş is having a hard time scoring goals in the game that flows as a team. There is not much contribution from other players. It turned from a team that scored a lot of goals into a team that scored few goals. That's why they have difficulty when they concede a goal. They need to figure this out, their defense is not bad. They need to be a team that is more effective in attack, finds more positions and takes more accurate shots. The lack of a striker is felt. The attack officially stops when Aboubakar leaves the game. Since the transfer window is closed, they need to solve this within the team.

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October 15, 2023, 01:34:58 PM
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I think Burak Yılmaz's player selections are wrong. Because he is still not playing the right players. Everyone knows that Galatasaray is the favorite in this derby.
I think there is no chance for Beşiktaş to win this match.
I will go and watch the match next week, I think it will be very enjoyable for Galatasaray fans.(For me)

Beşiktaş are in their worst period in years. I think we caught them at a very good time. They have had very bad results in the last weeks. Their manager resigned. And their club president will probably lose his post after the election within the club. Burak Yilmaz is someone who just quit football. He has no experience as a coach. On the other hand, Galatasaray beat Manchester United at Old Trafford in the Champions League. And they are winning consecutive victories in the league. Galatasaray will definitely be the favorites in this match. Anyone who comments in an unbiased way will come to this conclusion.

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October 15, 2023, 04:24:42 PM
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Fenerbahçe have won 8/8 of their games this season. Fenerbahce leading at the top of the league. The referee's decisions were very controversial in the match. Sports commentators could not understand the decisions made by the referee. I think there were mistakes in the referee's decisions in this match. If the referees' phones and all communication sources were checked before and after these matches, we would find out what's going on, but there is currently no power in the country that can address this. It's difficult to reveal these unless operations are carried out like in Italy.
After losing out on the title race to Galatasaray last season, Fenerbahce has decided to make amends to their loss of last season with the perfect start in the Turkish Super Lig season this campaign.
They're currently in the first spot in the league table after winning all their eight league matches and are closely followed by league rivals Galatasaray who has won seven and drawn one of their eight league matches. Interesting competition in the Saudi League
I guess you're not fully aware of which league you're watching. Interesting competition in the Saudi league, nice mention. Maybe you wrote it by mistake, I don't know, it would be nice if you realized it and changed it. This year, they need to win a championship under the management of Ali Koç Fenerbahçe.

Fenerbahçe fans had high expectations in the past seasons, but no success was achieved. More money has been spent this year and Fenerbahçe has started the season well, things seem to be going well this year. The eternal rivalry between Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe continues as always. Both teams are stronger than last season, and it is of course pleasing that our teams have increased their level like this.

Fenerbahce was able to win all the matches that they have played so far in this season. Things are really looking good for them. Now I know that sometimes they can lose crucial matches at crucial times.  I hope they will be able to stay consistent throughout the whole season. They will also have to understand that they need to pick up three points against any weaker opponents. Because otherwise, Galatasaray is going to get ahead of them.

Last year, Galatasaray was able to win the league title with quite a bit of difference in points. 8 If I am not wrong. Let's see if this time Fenerbahce can have anything to say about that.

Both teams, Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray, have a very stable performance this season. As you said, both teams know very well that they need to pick up three points against any weaker opponents. Otherwise, they are aware that they will lose the title. Last season, Fenerbahçe lost points to teams in the relegation zone and lost the championship. Will he make the same mistake this season?

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October 15, 2023, 06:57:42 PM
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I have seen some news giving tips about Burak Yilmaz's plans for the derby against us. It is said that his strategy in the first half will be similar to the gegenpress mentality. He is said to be planning to force Galatasaray players to make mistakes. He believes that Galatasaray players can be likely to lose the game after catching them by surprise.

I don't even want to believe some news tweeted on social media about Besiktas' plans for the derby game honestly. Besides if Besiktas really want to take big risks against us then I think it would be easier for us to win this game. Because we are better at defending also lately and our offensive side is already quite strong.

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October 15, 2023, 07:05:44 PM
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I have seen some news giving tips about Burak Yilmaz's plans for the derby against us. It is said that his strategy in the first half will be similar to the gegenpress mentality. He is said to be planning to force Galatasaray players to make mistakes. He believes that Galatasaray players can be likely to lose the game after catching them by surprise.

I don't even want to believe some news tweeted on social media about Besiktas' plans for the derby game honestly. Besides if Besiktas really want to take big risks against us then I think it would be easier for us to win this game. Because we are better at defending also lately and our offensive side is already quite strong.
As long as Icardi is on the offensive side, I think there is no need to talk, I can say that he is the most productive striker in the league. Okan Buruk has blended this squad very well, he is very comfortable in our midfield and defense. No matter how many mistakes Burak Yılmaz tries to make, I think he will not get what he wants in his first derby.

I know I talked about Galatasaray as the absolute favorite above this derby. Maybe if Beşiktaş wasn't going through all these negativities. I wouldn't have been so specific before.

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October 16, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
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I have seen some news giving tips about Burak Yilmaz's plans for the derby against us. It is said that his strategy in the first half will be similar to the gegenpress mentality. He is said to be planning to force Galatasaray players to make mistakes. He believes that Galatasaray players can be likely to lose the game after catching them by surprise.

I don't even want to believe some news tweeted on social media about Besiktas' plans for the derby game honestly. Besides if Besiktas really want to take big risks against us then I think it would be easier for us to win this game. Because we are better at defending also lately and our offensive side is already quite strong.
As long as Icardi is on the offensive side, I think there is no need to talk, I can say that he is the most productive striker in the league. Okan Buruk has blended this squad very well, he is very comfortable in our midfield and defense. No matter how many mistakes Burak Yılmaz tries to make, I think he will not get what he wants in his first derby.

I know I talked about Galatasaray as the absolute favorite above this derby. Maybe if Beşiktaş wasn't going through all these negativities. I wouldn't have been so specific before.
Although I also think Galatasaray might be favourite, we have seen so many times that absolute favourites lost the derby games amongst the Big 3. This Euro 2024 qualifiers break might be good for Beşiktaş. But, the new 'coach' Burak Yılmaz is very inexperience. Sometimes, when one team is the obvious favourite, the other team gets so motivated and wants to prove themselves. We might see this situation next weekend. But the problem is Beşiktaş's midfield and defence. The squad is literally not enough right now to have decent midfield and defence lines.
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Returning to the Super League with a derby match will be really exciting. Maybe Fenerbahçe can benefit from this match week as well. But I doubt Beşiktaş a lot in this derby match. Because they are going to be the away side and their current condition isn't very good. They are having tough days recently.

After Şenol Güneş has got sacked I wonder what they will do with Burak Yılmaz in this temporary time period. I see Aboubakar performing really great these days so Galatasaray would need to focus on defending him strongly.

I think that Galatasaray are highly favourite side to win this derby match for now.
Besiktas who has already lost two Turkish Super Lig matches so far this season travels to their neighbors home ground for league match this Saturday and just like bookmakers had predicted, I don't think they can get a good result from the game. Galatasaray has been in fine for since the start of the season and were even able to beat a big team like Manchester United away from home in the UEFA Champions League competition.
The best result that Besiktas can get is a draw in that game because Galatasaray would definitely want to win the game by all means.

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