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December 30, 2023, 02:00:12 PM |
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With this new Saudi deal, the whole nation is on riot right now, twitter is filled with Arabic and Turkish people fighting each other. The game was suppose to happen at Saudi Arabia, but there were some disagreements regarding national values.
There was no flag or national anthem allowed and obviously that wasn't acceptable, which is understandable, who wouldn't let two Turkish teams start the game with the Turkish anthem, that's ludacris. In the end, the game got cancelled, I have no idea if it was postponed or cancelled but one good thing is that the bets were voided already, which means that I already got my bet back, and as long as I keep getting my bets back this quickly, I am fine with them cancelling if they didn't want to play.
I can't believe there was terrible crisis happened before match even started. I think both Saudi Arabian organizator and Turkish football federation made numerous mistakes yesterday that caused match to be cancelled. When you receive visitor to your country you should definitely act accordingly to their demand. Turkish fans are very intense and they love to use national symbols and sayings at tribune. If you don't like it then, do not even invite Turkish clubs. I hope match will be totally cancelled and cup will be shared by both teams.
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December 30, 2023, 02:24:50 PM |
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This was the best derby I've ever witnessed although football being not played at all. It was a stupid idea to play the game in arabia anyway. They may have some people watching their games after the recent transfers, including me, but this doesn't mean an organization being held there is a good idea. Apart from the political stuff, this incident yesterday will slightly affect the league. Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe have to play this match in their usual schedule. Players missed a holiday and again have to miss again for this high tensioned game. Their usual games in the near dates of this super cup match will have interesting betting.
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December 30, 2023, 05:23:23 PM |
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. Yes, the draw they got really proves that both of them are equally strong this season, I am very curious about today's final match between the two because this time Galatasaray will have an advantage because they are playing at home, but unfortunately the match has to be postponed so we are still curious with the results in this Turkish Super League final, but maybe I favor Galatasaray more or it could still be a draw like in the previous match.
Galatasaray is not only focused on the Turkish league but also has to focus on the play off round of the European league. Galatasaray failed in the Champions League. They should be able to improve their performance to perform optimally and be able to win against Sparta Praha so they can qualify for the next round and compete closely in the round of 16. European League. Apart from that, Galatasaray is also focused on winning the title in the Turkish League in tight competition with Fenerbahce.
Last weekend, the toughest sides in the Turkish Super Lig played against each other. It was definitely an intense game for both teams as they had in their respective stores what to fight for. The game ended fairly in a goalless draw which only is a sign of how resilient they both were and unwavering too. These sides are good at what they do and they did not also let any factor deprive them of the strength out into the game. Galatasaray now has just the Turkish League race to focus on having been knocked out of the Champions league and it's an advantage for them to build up enough capacity to stay out at their top spot and for Fernabache, the struggle is up and they're definitely up to whatsoever task put before them too. Subsequent games in the league would begin after the New Year break and then we'd have the competition for the league trophy back on. These two teams have always been an upper hand in the league and maybe it'll be repeated this season as well
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December 30, 2023, 05:49:21 PM |
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I think the turkish federation needs to put some effort into becoming more competitive in europe because as we see Galatasaray and Fenerbahce both have really good teams, but they always strugled a lot in european games, also Besiktas when they play.
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December 30, 2023, 08:10:43 PM |
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I think the turkish federation needs to put some effort into becoming more competitive in europe because as we see Galatasaray and Fenerbahce both have really good teams, but they always strugled a lot in european games, also Besiktas when they play.
There is no doubt now it's needed some good changes but still as we are heading we have good improvement in quality and performance of many teams which is positive, but things can't go into change with as we have in Saudi Arab because they are doing all they can afford here we have no luxury like this but still we can expect few more positive changes which are essential recently we have good improvement in UEFA results which are giving green signals for the future as well. But for the more investment from club owners need to have better revenue and media rights sell as well which is not easy, but we can expect good growth for the Turkish League in future despite many on and off the field issues if they are able to have good investment then surely things can go drastically and this league can go at their best in just few years.
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December 30, 2023, 09:05:27 PM |
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This was the best derby I've ever witnessed although football being not played at all. It was a stupid idea to play the game in arabia anyway. They may have some people watching their games after the recent transfers, including me, but this doesn't mean an organization being held there is a good idea. Apart from the political stuff, this incident yesterday will slightly affect the league. Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe have to play this match in their usual schedule. Players missed a holiday and again have to miss again for this high tensioned game. Their usual games in the near dates of this super cup match will have interesting betting.
This match was supposed to be played in Turkey. That was the problem from the very beginning. I was very happy that the match was cancelled. While everyone was complaining about the federation, we watched an avalanche of reactions and this made me very happy. There is still no clear development regarding the match. I wonder if it will be played in Arabia or if they will arrange a stadium in Turkey. Teams in almost every city invited Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe for the Super Cup final on Twitter. It's great that the teams show their friendship in this way
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December 30, 2023, 09:17:30 PM |
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It looks like the TFF chairman Mehmet Büyükekşi doesn't have an intention to leave his job yet. I thought my source was telling the truth, anyways. In my opinion football in Turkey is managed really badly. But TFF management just doesn't want to take responsibility about this. If people don't like your management style then you just leave your job to someone else. I believe we can surely find a better person to do the work as it should be. If the federation focuses on creating solutions to the obvious problems of Turkish football then we can at least start talking less about big mistakes.
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December 30, 2023, 09:38:05 PM |
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I have just read about this. Is this even for real? I am trying to understand what's going on, but why would the teams accept all the hassle, travel to Saudi Arabia to then find out that they end up disagreeing with the hosts about some arrangements to then fly home again? Wasn't there some warning in advance or some discussion about how the game was supposed to be played? I wonder how many fans travelled there from Turkey, paid for the hotel, perhaps planned a little trip for New Year's Eve. Yes, that's real. That happened last night. After the disagreement, both teams didn't even go to the stadium. We don't know the details and exactly what kind of bargain was made there. However, we only know what is reflected in the media. Reportedly, there was a dispute with the Saudi authorities regarding the t-shirts the teams would wear during warm-up and the banner they would carry on the field. It was an interesting night for Turkish football. I'm not sure how this will reflect on the league. It shouldn't affect the players much, but it could affect the federation and officials. There was talk of the resignation of the federation president, but there is no official statement yet.
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December 30, 2023, 09:43:41 PM |
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The excitement in the Super League will continue with the matches to be played on Friday. Beşiktaş cannot show the performance it wants this year. They fell well below expectations. Still, they want to be included in the race to go to the European cups next year. They will play against Kasımpaşa this week. I think they will be closer to victory against Kasımpaşa. It will be their first match with new coach Genesio. I hope they win.
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December 30, 2023, 11:16:55 PM |
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I have just read about this. Is this even for real? I am trying to understand what's going on, but why would the teams accept all the hassle, travel to Saudi Arabia to then find out that they end up disagreeing with the hosts about some arrangements to then fly home again? Wasn't there some warning in advance or some discussion about how the game was supposed to be played? I wonder how many fans travelled there from Turkey, paid for the hotel, perhaps planned a little trip for New Year's Eve. Yes, that's real. That happened last night. After the disagreement, both teams didn't even go to the stadium. We don't know the details and exactly what kind of bargain was made there. However, we only know what is reflected in the media. Reportedly, there was a dispute with the Saudi authorities regarding the t-shirts the teams would wear during warm-up and the banner they would carry on the field. It was an interesting night for Turkish football. I'm not sure how this will reflect on the league. It shouldn't affect the players much, but it could affect the federation and officials. There was talk of the resignation of the federation president, but there is no official statement yet. But what I don't understand is why would the Saudi Professional League officials care about those t-shirts? I get that all these political signals are not allowed and that there are disagreements about the separation of the state and religion and so on. But the Saudi officials could have just called the FIFA and make sure that the Turkish teams get a penalty IF it wasn't allowed to do that. I don't know if it was prohibited what they had in mind, but if it was, just ignore it, let them play and let the FIFA handle the case. That's how it should be. Saudi Arabia has to get more easy going as they will soon be the hosts of the World Cup. They should grow a thicker skin.
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December 31, 2023, 03:05:33 AM |
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I feel like it's a bit wrong on both sides, if Saudi Arabians do not want this kind of things, they should not agree to get the game on their stadium, and if Turkish teams want certain things that are not allowed, then they should not agree to go there. In the end, it's a national pride thing apparently, and maybe not that many nations do this, but Turkey does, it's known, even in UCL and other European competitions they have done this, so there is nothing wrong with that at all.
I believe that if you are inviting a Turkish team, you should be ready to get some decent national symbols all over, unlike some other nations. La liga has their games there too, never seen them care about their national pride at all, they just want to play football, they do not care about anything else. Every culture is different, and some cultures just clash and not really fit each other, it is always obvious that Saudi culture and Turkish culture would not fit very well, and we have seen the results of that.
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December 31, 2023, 09:56:43 AM |
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... There was no flag or national anthem allowed and obviously that wasn't acceptable, which is understandable, who wouldn't let two Turkish teams start the game with the Turkish anthem, that's ludacris. In the end, the game got cancelled, I have no idea if it was postponed or cancelled but one good thing is that the bets were voided already, which means that I already got my bet back, and as long as I keep getting my bets back this quickly, I am fine with them cancelling if they didn't want to play.
This is not right. They allowed Turkish flags and the national anthem, but not photos of Atatürk, the founder of the country. So, The Arab Football Federation applied the rules of the International Football Association. Where are you from? I think you're Spanish. Do you remember going to a cup match wearing a shirt with Franco's picture on it? The Spanish teams will play their finals in Arabia for the next 6 years. Do you think they will play with shirts with Franco's picture on them? The answer to that question is of course no. Some things that are abnormal in the world are ordinary and mandatory in my country. That's why we face some problems in global organizations. Prince Salman is one of the dictators I hate the most, but the decision of the Arab Football Federation is right. Unfortunately, Arabs are more modern than us in this regard.
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December 31, 2023, 02:15:41 PM |
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This is not right. They allowed Turkish flags and the national anthem, but not photos of Atatürk, the founder of the country. So, The Arab Football Federation applied the rules of the International Football Association.
Where are you from? I think you're Spanish. Do you remember going to a cup match wearing a shirt with Franco's picture on it? The Spanish teams will play their finals in Arabia for the next 6 years. Do you think they will play with shirts with Franco's picture on them? The answer to that question is of course no. Some things that are abnormal in the world are ordinary and mandatory in my country. That's why we face some problems in global organizations. Prince Salman is one of the dictators I hate the most, but the decision of the Arab Football Federation is right. Unfortunately, Arabs are more modern than us in this regard.
Somethings are not meant to be debated about because we’ve got to put the country forward in football and not the founder of the country. So why the sudden change is just like a country heading out and taking the picture of their Colonial Masters into the World Cup than their traditional national colour which has its meaning, it doesn't make any sense So I think the Footballing agency in charge there should help the football community effect the necessary changes rather than let a dictator takeover the affairs of football which have its own supreme body.Dictatorship is a no in football and would be fought against, there are some certain rules that's been laid and are bound to be kept, well I think the FIFA body needs to look into the issue and handle the situation properly, so as to let those dictators be guided.
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December 31, 2023, 03:12:31 PM |
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I have just read about this. Is this even for real? I am trying to understand what's going on, but why would the teams accept all the hassle, travel to Saudi Arabia to then find out that they end up disagreeing with the hosts about some arrangements to then fly home again? Wasn't there some warning in advance or some discussion about how the game was supposed to be played? I wonder how many fans travelled there from Turkey, paid for the hotel, perhaps planned a little trip for New Year's Eve. Yes, that's real. That happened last night. After the disagreement, both teams didn't even go to the stadium. We don't know the details and exactly what kind of bargain was made there. However, we only know what is reflected in the media. Reportedly, there was a dispute with the Saudi authorities regarding the t-shirts the teams would wear during warm-up and the banner they would carry on the field. It was an interesting night for Turkish football. I'm not sure how this will reflect on the league. It shouldn't affect the players much, but it could affect the federation and officials. There was talk of the resignation of the federation president, but there is no official statement yet. But what I don't understand is why would the Saudi Professional League officials care about those t-shirts? I get that all these political signals are not allowed and that there are disagreements about the separation of the state and religion and so on. But the Saudi officials could have just called the FIFA and make sure that the Turkish teams get a penalty IF it wasn't allowed to do that. I don't know if it was prohibited what they had in mind, but if it was, just ignore it, let them play and let the FIFA handle the case. That's how it should be. Saudi Arabia has to get more easy going as they will soon be the hosts of the World Cup. They should grow a thicker skin. I am guessing that it is not about the shirts, but more regarding what is allowed and what is not allowed being risky waters to talk about. If you let one team do whatever they want without caring about what is allowed, then next time another team plays, they will ask for more as well, then another team will ask even more, and eventually you will have chaos in your hands. They have talked specifically about the fact that even in a full dictatorship (king literally OWNS the people, it is north Korea levels of dictatorship there) and even he doesn't get to be pictured at the games, they are trying to be the most secular nation in the entire world when it comes to football, and no matter how much you love someone, you can't just bring him in this game.
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December 31, 2023, 11:34:06 PM |
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I have just read about this. Is this even for real? I am trying to understand what's going on, but why would the teams accept all the hassle, travel to Saudi Arabia to then find out that they end up disagreeing with the hosts about some arrangements to then fly home again? Wasn't there some warning in advance or some discussion about how the game was supposed to be played? I wonder how many fans travelled there from Turkey, paid for the hotel, perhaps planned a little trip for New Year's Eve. Yes, that's real. That happened last night. After the disagreement, both teams didn't even go to the stadium. We don't know the details and exactly what kind of bargain was made there. However, we only know what is reflected in the media. Reportedly, there was a dispute with the Saudi authorities regarding the t-shirts the teams would wear during warm-up and the banner they would carry on the field. It was an interesting night for Turkish football. I'm not sure how this will reflect on the league. It shouldn't affect the players much, but it could affect the federation and officials. There was talk of the resignation of the federation president, but there is no official statement yet. But what I don't understand is why would the Saudi Professional League officials care about those t-shirts? I get that all these political signals are not allowed and that there are disagreements about the separation of the state and religion and so on. But the Saudi officials could have just called the FIFA and make sure that the Turkish teams get a penalty IF it wasn't allowed to do that. I don't know if it was prohibited what they had in mind, but if it was, just ignore it, let them play and let the FIFA handle the case. That's how it should be. Saudi Arabia has to get more easy going as they will soon be the hosts of the World Cup. They should grow a thicker skin. I am guessing that it is not about the shirts, but more regarding what is allowed and what is not allowed being risky waters to talk about. If you let one team do whatever they want without caring about what is allowed, then next time another team plays, they will ask for more as well, then another team will ask even more, and eventually you will have chaos in your hands. They have talked specifically about the fact that even in a full dictatorship (king literally OWNS the people, it is north Korea levels of dictatorship there) and even he doesn't get to be pictured at the games, they are trying to be the most secular nation in the entire world when it comes to football, and no matter how much you love someone, you can't just bring him in this game. But isn't that what the FIFA is for? We are still talking about t-shirts in my opinion. First of all who the heck cares whether they want to celebrate the 100-year existence of their country by wearing a t-shirt of the back then president who fostered separation of the church and the state? Really, really nobody cares actually. But if this is recognized as a political slogan, which is not allowed as per the FIFA rules, why don't they give authority to the FIFA association to take appropriate action? That's what I don't understand and saying that they don't trust the FIFA is bullshit, they were just nominated as the host for the 2034 World Cup. Can't be too bad of a relationship.
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December 31, 2023, 11:40:55 PM |
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With this new Saudi deal, the whole nation is on riot right now, twitter is filled with Arabic and Turkish people fighting each other. The game was suppose to happen at Saudi Arabia, but there were some disagreements regarding national values.
There was no flag or national anthem allowed and obviously that wasn't acceptable, which is understandable, who wouldn't let two Turkish teams start the game with the Turkish anthem, that's ludacris. In the end, the game got cancelled, I have no idea if it was postponed or cancelled but one good thing is that the bets were voided already, which means that I already got my bet back, and as long as I keep getting my bets back this quickly, I am fine with them cancelling if they didn't want to play.
I can't believe there was terrible crisis happened before match even started. I think both Saudi Arabian organizator and Turkish football federation made numerous mistakes yesterday that caused match to be cancelled. When you receive visitor to your country you should definitely act accordingly to their demand. Turkish fans are very intense and they love to use national symbols and sayings at tribune. If you don't like it then, do not even invite Turkish clubs. I hope match will be totally cancelled and cup will be shared by both teams. I was disappointed with Turkish and Saudi football authorities for the very poor preparation by the two nations that resulted to the crises that led to the cancellation of the Super Cup match match between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce. I'm sure the two football authorities knows the importance of that very particular encounter and shoulda provided enough preparation that would've kept the who fans in other bu the failed to do that and unfortunately for football fans across the globe, it caused us the Turkish super Cup
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According to media reports, Galatasaray are preparing to part ways with Hakim Ziyech. He had joined the squad from Chelsea at the beginning of the season for free. He made very important contributions in some matches. Especially in the Champions League he scored two great goals against Manchester United. But he spent most of the season with the excuse of injury. He is a great talent. But he failed to adapt to Galatasaray. We have to sign a player who will contribute more to the team in the second half of the season.
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January 01, 2024, 11:33:10 AM |
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After Nuri Şahin left his job and went to Borussia Dortmund, Sergen Yalçın was appointed as the new manager of Antalyaspor. Sergen Yalçın is a successful manager who previously won the championship with Beşiktaş. He is someone who has coached many Anatolian clubs, but has never served in any club for a long time. I think he will be successful in Antalyaspor, but I'm not sure how long he will serve.
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January 01, 2024, 11:37:03 AM |
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According to media reports, Galatasaray are preparing to part ways with Hakim Ziyech. He had joined the squad from Chelsea at the beginning of the season for free. He made very important contributions in some matches. Especially in the Champions League he scored two great goals against Manchester United. But he spent most of the season with the excuse of injury. He is a great talent. But he failed to adapt to Galatasaray. We have to sign a player who will contribute more to the team in the second half of the season.
Actually, he's not playing badly, but I guess he just can't get used to it here. Fans' expectations from a world-class player are always high. We could not see him on the field much in regular league matches. Of course, he may have health problems due to his advanced age. He told his manager that he wanted to leave and he will not stay in this team any longer. It is said that Roma and Al Nassr want to buy this player
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January 01, 2024, 12:36:28 PM |
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After Nuri Şahin left his job and went to Borussia Dortmund, Sergen Yalçın was appointed as the new manager of Antalyaspor. Sergen Yalçın is a successful manager who previously won the championship with Beşiktaş. He is someone who has coached many Anatolian clubs, but has never served in any club for a long time. I think he will be successful in Antalyaspor, but I'm not sure how long he will serve.
I find these news very interesting. Already, Nuri Şahin is actually very young. He is only 35 years old, for example he is 4 years younger than Lebron James and Nuri has been coaching for some time now. And not only he was a coach for a Super League team, but he is going to a huge team in Bundesliga. Of course it is his old club where he is a legend. I cannot help but fascinated by this. And also news about Sergen Yalçın is also very interesting. Yes, he coached a lot of Anatolian teams but most recently he was the coach of Beşiktaş. He didn't need to go to Anatolian clubs now, and even Beşiktaş needs a coach now and there were news about Beşiktaş was interested in him. That's why it is interesting that he went to Antalyaspor. But generally, things are good for Antalyaspor. They obviously have a vision, we can expect good things for them in the coming years.
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