⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[arimamib]

Newcastle's performance has me baffled, it's strange how they are doing it, I actually had a lot of hope for this team, because things have done very well, at first, but now I don't know, I think There can be many personal problems, or problems with the coach, but something must not be very right, in fact I don't know if you have seen the Newcastle movies , which is from a few years ago, which is called Goal, it has two parts, really Things can be very strange if we see that their performance has dropped like a free fall, the wins do not look good for any team, it may be that they fail once, but two wins in a row is a reason to do better, or that the ocsas are already getting out of control.

Newcastle's current form is so unexpected, especially considering the initial promise they showed last season and early this season. I think their current situation is caused by the fact they are a well-unticipated team now, similar to Brighton, because of their achievement last season. Another factor is that they arent used to have a splitted focus, as they have to play Champions League that makes them not really settled on their new challenge.

I dont think they have personal issues,  because they are well-known for their compactness on and off the field. It's common for teams to go through rough patches, and the reasons behind a sudden decline can be multifaceted. I hope Newcastle can address these challenges and bounce back to their earlier form. Maybe Newcastle need to sign 'Santiago Munez' to strengthen their squad and add a strong mentality of player like he has shown in the 'Goal' movie.

[tusandii]

There's a new contender for the championship this season, and that's Aston Villa. After defeating Mancity, they followed up with a win against Arsenal, the two strongest contenders for the title. No one paid much attention to them, but they've been making steady progress. Aston Villa is now only 1 point behind Arsenal and 2 points behind Liverpool. This gap could be closed at any time. The resurgence of Aston Villa has made this year's race incredibly exciting and unpredictable.

Not stopping there, both managers, Pep and Arteta, have admitted that Aston Villa is a championship contender this year. It's time for us to give Aston Villa a more accurate assessment of their position this season.

Who would have thought that Tottenham would surprisingly reach the top of the standings with such huge ambitions and continue to get consecutive wins but in the end they would fall because after being at the top of the sky they lost control and fell, consistently losing and occupying the 5th position after MC and this is the same as Aston Villa which is currently It's surprising to win twice against a popular club in the Premier League and it's possible that after beating this big club, the players' self-confidence will increase and they will continue to get consecutive wins and then after that they will have the same fate as Tottenham.
Actually, conditions like this have often happened, it's just that it happened too quickly, surprising people and I don't think that Aston Villa will be a challenger in the long term, it will definitely lose consistency and after that it will be pushed back by a big club.
It's just that currently the Premier League competition looks more competitive and attracts everyone to continue to see the development of all the clubs that will compete for first place in the points table.

[emrecemsan]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

[QueenVera]

I must say that I am shocked by the results of yesterday's game. Arsenal played against Aston Villa, it was a game in which all attention was on seeing if, after Aston Villa had defeated Manchester City, they would also be able to defeat Arsenal, something that wouldn't be easy, but it wasn't impossible. and that's what happened on the field, Aston Villa defeated Arsenal and this is something that could really harm Arsenal in the race for the title, I don't know what the hell is happening with Arsenal, even though they have a good squad they couldn't score a goal in that game today, they didn't look like a team that is fighting for the title, on the contrary they looked like a team that is fighting to stay in the top 4. for Aston Villa this victory puts them in third position and they can fight to finish in one of the 4 positions or become champions, I no longer doubt that

Liverpool also played and won, with this victory Liverpool is at the top of the table and with that they can become champions if they continue to win games constantly and pray that their opponents lose games, so that they have a big points advantage. Another game with a shocking result was the Manchester United game, I don't know what the hell this team has, they lost and conceded 3 goals, very regrettable, so I don't doubt they will fire the coach before the season ends. today we will have more games, manchester city will play, another team that will play will be chelsea, tottenham and newcastle, these are the big teams that played, there are more

At this point it's a very risky thing to predict EPL games. Now the game results keep flunctuating and it just makes the league unendingly fun because a winner can't be predicted, neither can there be consistency too. The last two EPL encounters had in itself results that left everyone in shock, and I'm pretty sure this coming week would be full of more suprises as well.

 Definitely, some teams experienced a decline in their performance and also on their stand on the league table, whilst some remained dormant and some had a small lift too. At this point, the EPL table is highly competitive as just 3points separate the 4th place from the first place. Any next backslide would cost each person their spot on the table. The league tempo bass helped every team to put up their best game recently and prove their worths too. It's only sad that some teams would still stay down and keep embracing defeats

[wakier]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

Like i always say English premier league teams this season are really unpredictable on like last season. Manchester united winning against Chelsea and losing against Bournemouth. Nobody would ever believe such thing would happen, but it did happen. Erik ten hag really needs to up his game, his job as the couch of the red devils is really at stake if the looses is much more than the winnings. Man united management board are expecting much from him, the fans are alsi expecting much from him. He should take advantage of this pressure to atleast qualify for champions league next season.

It seems that not only the EPL, all other league competitions also cannot be predicted correctly because football matches always have lots of surprises and of course many bookies find it difficult to bet on clubs that have the potential to win. And basically Manchester United has experienced a decline this season, not only At the start of the season, the level of consistency was highly doubtful because this team often made mistakes. Erik Ten Hag as coach couldn't do much. He was also often blamed for Manchester United's defeat because he always made mistakes in implementing strategies.
Since joining Manchester United last season Ten Hag was able to build a good performance and was able to bring Man Utd to the top 3, but this season the team's performance is really chaotic. I hope Manchester United management immediately fires him and replaces him with a better coach who doesn't have the character. loud like Ten Hag which causes discomfort between players and coaches.

[makishart]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

Like i always say English premier league teams this season are really unpredictable on like last season. Manchester united winning against Chelsea and losing against Bournemouth. Nobody would ever believe such thing would happen, but it did happen. Erik ten hag really needs to up his game, his job as the couch of the red devils is really at stake if the looses is much more than the winnings. Man united management board are expecting much from him, the fans are alsi expecting much from him. He should take advantage of this pressure to atleast qualify for champions league next season.

There are so many teams were competing each other to climb up and stay at the top. The only thing that saddened me to see chelsea is still losing the game. To be honest, this is so disgusting for chelsea to face another lose again.
It seems like that the bad trend will still continue for chelsea soon. Chelsea needs also to collect more points to make sure it will not be going down again. Even pochettino has been also expressing his disappointment toward the club.
Having lots of young players are not good. It can be seen from how chelsea is still wasting so many chances to win the game. The incompetence performance from the players were just making it even worst.
No doubt that if chelsea may be going back to the releagtion zone again soon. Chelsea is just chelsea now. it will never be another manchester city. It's caused by the prime era of chelsea has gone.

[Altryist]

It seems that not only the EPL, all other league competitions also cannot be predicted correctly because football matches always have lots of surprises and of course many bookies find it difficult to bet on clubs that have the potential to win. And basically Manchester United has experienced a decline this season, not only At the start of the season, the level of consistency was highly doubtful because this team often made mistakes. Erik Ten Hag as coach couldn't do much. He was also often blamed for Manchester United's defeat because he always made mistakes in implementing strategies.
Since joining Manchester United last season Ten Hag was able to build a good performance and was able to bring Man Utd to the top 3, but this season the team's performance is really chaotic. I hope Manchester United management immediately fires him and replaces him with a better coach who doesn't have the character. loud like Ten Hag which causes discomfort between players and coaches.

Do you think that Ten Hag is being unfairly accused? He rebuilt the team at his own discretion, brought many young guys into the team, but miracles did not happene, such a team cannot compete in such a strong championship.

It is obvious that Ten Hag’s strategy does not work in the Premier League, maybe he can feel confident in weaker championships, but here it seems that everything works differently, and to achieve good results you need big money and top players. But even this will not always work, look at the example of Newcastle, they have excellent funding, but this season their results are not very good, and there are a lot of injuries, but apparently the problem lies somewhere within the team.

[piebeyb]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

I also think that replacing Ten Hag for now will not have a good impact even if Manchester United loses to Munich in the next match and prevents them from qualifying for the next round of the UCL. At least Ten Hag still has a chance to make Manchester United recover from yesterday's defeat and catch up so that at the end of the season they will be in the top four to enter the UCL next season.

It is not easy to find the right coach for Manchester United because it requires a more time-consuming process if the players from the squad team cannot be controlled well, Ten Hag must be able to pressure all the players from the squad team to play better so they can be in the top four EPL this season, at least they have to stay on the winning track after suffering a heavy defeat yesterday.

[Warkop]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

It is true that Manchester United is a very good team and is always the favorite, but that happened several years ago when Manchester United, led by Alex Ferguson, always won the league and also always won league matches and became champions. In my opinion, Manchester United's defeat with a score of 3 - 0 was very unfortunate, because the opponents faced by Bournemouth who were ranked 14th were very different from their position, this was a good opportunity to get three Old Trafford points but in reality they lost. I don't think Erik ten Hag will be able to solve this problem, because it is too difficult to find good tactics for Manchester United's front line and also the back line is so fragile that defeats keep happening. In my opinion, the best solution for Manchester United's development is to fire Erik ten Hag and look for a coach who can really develop a strategy on the front line and also a good defense for Manchester United.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

Like i always say English premier league teams this season are really unpredictable on like last season. Manchester united winning against Chelsea and losing against Bournemouth. Nobody would ever believe such thing would happen, but it did happen. Erik ten hag really needs to up his game, his job as the couch of the red devils is really at stake if the looses is much more than the winnings. Man united management board are expecting much from him, the fans are alsi expecting much from him. He should take advantage of this pressure to atleast qualify for champions league next season.

Actually, I think something like this will only happen in December because we know that in December every club in the EPL is required to do a lot of matches which makes this a little complicated for themselves.
Clubs in the EPL in December sometimes only have a one-day break for recovery and then play again before they get a half-season break.
With a busy schedule every club is required to rack their brains so that the players are not exhausted and their consistency is maintained but sometimes things like this are difficult to happen because after all it will be very difficult to maintain consistency in a situation of busy fixtures that make matches sometimes not too predictable.

But for the case of Manchester United it is more than this because apart from their poor performance the tight schedule further worsens their quality which causes them to be like this now.

[alankasman]

The fatigue is setting in and all the bigger teams with more matches in other leagues go through this I believe, hence why the  least performing clubs in the EPL right now are doing better than ever.

It can already be felt that the tight and busy playing schedules of teams competing in several competitions are starting to show. Then from the fatigue they feel, they will be faced with injuries. I think teams like Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United are going through that and they will face situations that could result in a number of players getting injured.
As a result, big teams with busy playing schedules will experience a decline in their best performance. Manchester City won hard. Liverpool too.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

They really are inconsistent, I agree with you. They beat a tougher team but stumble on a smaller team according to your example. Their next competitor in the Premier League is going to be Liverpool by the way. It is going to be played at Anfield also. I see a really worrying scenario for Manchester United already.

I would like to remind you first about the last game between these teams here. Liverpool obliterated them by 7-0. What a game that was!

Manchester United were even in a condition that we could call better than this season. While Liverpool are this strong in home games (7W in 7 games) now I won't be expecting much from Manchester United to do.

[Godday]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

United are in a very difficult situation. Fans have been asking for Ten Hag to be fired for a long time. I don't know what the Club Board thinks. It is likely that they provide a final chance for Ten Hag to at least ensure a place in next season's Champions League. But if United have inconsistent performances like this, I think it is impossible for them to get a place in the Champions League next season.

[arimamib]

There are so many teams were competing each other to climb up and stay at the top. The only thing that saddened me to see chelsea is still losing the game. To be honest, this is so disgusting for chelsea to face another lose again.
It seems like that the bad trend will still continue for chelsea soon. Chelsea needs also to collect more points to make sure it will not be going down again. Even pochettino has been also expressing his disappointment toward the club.
Having lots of young players are not good. It can be seen from how chelsea is still wasting so many chances to win the game. The incompetence performance from the players were just making it even worst.
No doubt that if chelsea may be going back to the releagtion zone again soon. Chelsea is just chelsea now. it will never be another manchester city. It's caused by the prime era of chelsea has gone.

It's indeed really frustating to see a big club with good players keep getting bad results. It makes situation unacceptable to say "it's normal for a team to have ups and downs", because Chelsea have spent too much fund to sign good players. Chelsea has a rich history and has demonstrated resilience in the past. Young players can be an asset who bring energy and fresh talent to the team, but they can't develop if the team keeps performing on low quality trends.

Pochettino needs a stronger and better backup from the board, because he cant work alone to solve this problem. The board needs to provide him a assisting team who will help him to address and evaluate the root of problems. This way is the best approach for the club to start the rebuilding with well-analyzed strategic plan. Football is a dynamic sport, and fortunes can change. Rather than dwelling on current struggles, it might be helpful to focus on supporting the team during this period.

[X-ray]

The fatigue is setting in and all the bigger teams with more matches in other leagues go through this I believe, hence why the  least performing clubs in the EPL right now are doing better than ever.

It can already be felt that the tight and busy playing schedules of teams competing in several competitions are starting to show. Then from the fatigue they feel, they will be faced with injuries. I think teams like Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United are going through that and they will face situations that could result in a number of players getting injured.
As a result, big teams with busy playing schedules will experience a decline in their best performance. Manchester City won hard. Liverpool too.

Some of them will be leaving from UCL. They will not face busy schedules. The clubs that have been securing some spots in UCL need to put more effort to keep the performance of its clubs table in all of competitions. Manchester city needs someone who was able to play as good as bruyne.
Pep is also looking for a solution to get a nw player who can play as attacking midfielder that will help the club on making creative attack. Im doubting the consistency of some clubs like manchester city and arsenal. Liverpool was only playing in europa league.
It must not be that hard for liverpool to get the europa league trophy this season. Arsenal and manchester city will become the last candidates owned by EPL in UCL this season.

Pep has been fully experienced in managing the club to avoid its players to be exhausted. Liverpool is starting to driving up again after it was winning several matches in a row. Meanwhile, arsenal and manchester city was struggling.
People will be concerning about manchester city and arsenal. We do know that how bad the gunner's stats in the UCL this time. Im doubting arsenal will be going to the last 8.

[QueenVera]

Some of them will be leaving from UCL. They will not face busy schedules. The clubs that have been securing some spots in UCL need to put more effort to keep the performance of its clubs table in all of competitions. Manchester city needs someone who was able to play as good as bruyne.
Pep is also looking for a solution to get a nw player who can play as attacking midfielder that will help the club on making creative attack. Im doubting the consistency of some clubs like manchester city and arsenal. Liverpool was only playing in europa league.
It must not be that hard for liverpool to get the europa league trophy this season. Arsenal and manchester city will become the last candidates owned by EPL in UCL this season.

Pep has been fully experienced in managing the club to avoid its players to be exhausted. Liverpool is starting to driving up again after it was winning several matches in a row. Meanwhile, arsenal and manchester city was struggling.
People will be concerning about manchester city and arsenal. We do know that how bad the gunner's stats in the UCL this time. Im doubting arsenal will be going to the last 8.

Well clubs like Manchester City and Arsenal are strong enough to still be in the UCL competition and still maintain a good EPL record, they got a good squad and strategy all they need is to take advantage of the upcoming window to strengthen their squad against injury crisis and sort, cause that's the issue that always hinder most clubs from performing better and maintaining consistency, well Liverpool are in a good form and got a good squad that's capable of getting to the finals but they'll still need to bluster their squad in the Jan window as well.

 On the other hand, clubs like Newcastle and Manchester United are not really ready for the UCL tournament, cause they've not really been very impressive, well Newcastle have tried since it's their 1st experience after many years but Manchester United's performance have been really embarrassing, they've not really represented the EPL very well in the UCL tournament, left for me I'll want them to return and focus on their domestic competitions  then maybe try again next season when they're fully prepared.

[Despairo]

United are in a very difficult situation. Fans have been asking for Ten Hag to be fired for a long time. I don't know what the Club Board thinks. It is likely that they provide a final chance for Ten Hag to at least ensure a place in next season's Champions League. But if United have inconsistent performances like this, I think it is impossible for them to get a place in the Champions League next season.

Really? Manchester United currently at 6th position and they only need to win two games and one draw in order to take over Tottenham's position to qualify in Champions League. The league isn't yet even reach middle season, there are still 20 weeks to go. Remember the last season Manchester United was struggle until they win streaks in the end of season that make them reach 3rd position.

Impossible is a strong word.

[Antotena]

Newcastle's current form is so unexpected, especially considering the initial promise they showed last season and early this season. I think their current situation is caused by the fact they are a well-unticipated team now, similar to Brighton, because of their achievement last season. Another factor is that they arent used to have a splitted focus, as they have to play Champions League that makes them not really settled on their new challenge.

It's a pity how the mighty has fallen, a team that made it to the Champions League after many years couldn't stay in the top 5, they have literally win 8 matches, draw 2 and losses 6 which is a poor performance if they really want to be among the top four teams again. If they lose to Milan in their next Champions League, then there journey has come to end of the Champions League and this season will not be possible because I don't think this type of performance will take them anywhere but if they win, then I think that is going to motivate them to go straight to the Knockout but I don't trust any team performance this season, they will shock you when you expect something big from them.

I dont think they have personal issues,  because they are well-known for their compactness on and off the field. It's common for teams to go through rough patches, and the reasons behind a sudden decline can be multifaceted. I hope Newcastle can address these challenges and bounce back to their earlier form. Maybe Newcastle need to sign 'Santiago Munez' to strengthen their squad and add a strong mentality of player like he has shown in the 'Goal' movie.

The last time Newcastle lost home match was in the R3 in the Premier League, they only lost matches that are away and this show that they only have dominance in their home, if they want to win further and change their winning mentality, they need to work hard on how to stabilize theirselves and quickly convert any opportunity that comes their way. They also need to make more changes because their forward looks weak.

[Juggy777]

United are in a very difficult situation. Fans have been asking for Ten Hag to be fired for a long time. I don't know what the Club Board thinks. It is likely that they provide a final chance for Ten Hag to at least ensure a place in next season's Champions League. But if United have inconsistent performances like this, I think it is impossible for them to get a place in the Champions League next season.

Really? Manchester United currently at 6th position and they only need to win two games and one draw in order to take over Tottenham's position to qualify in Champions League. The league isn't yet even reach middle season, there are still 20 weeks to go. Remember the last season Manchester United was struggle until they win streaks in the end of season that make them reach 3rd position.

Impossible is a strong word.

@Despairo Manchester United maybe back in the top 10 but they play like a team that’s stuck on the 20th spot and it’s really painful at times to watch them play. Furthermore Ten Hag has lost the player’s, his mind when he baffles everyone by leaving Varane out and not giving Donny a chance because everyone been playing so bad he should have played him and worst is the public drama of Sancho and thus I feel that he should be asked to leave asap while we can yet salvage this season.

[samuraijin]

Manchester United are also a very interesting team this season. "Inconsistent" might be a better word to tell their condition I guess. They can win against Chelsea at Old Trafford but at the same time they can lose to Bournemouth at the same place by even a huge score like 3-0.    The point difference with top 4 is 6 now. Finishing the season in top 4 will be crucial for Erik ten Hag. If the board don't see the team in the Champions League next season then I don't think Erik ten Hag would stay longer.

I'm talking like he will last until the end of the season of course. Who knows maybe he would get sacked earlier depending on results.

Of course it is very interesting to discuss every week, Manchester United needs a management overhaul and several players are detrimental or often make mistakes. Manchester United is a club that wastes money when the transfer market arrives, but the results from each purchase of players they bring in are not to meet expectations for Manchester United, Manchester United must look for a new coach who is really looking for players who suit Manchester United's playing style, not just a little but no contribution or even a big salary but no use for the club.

I really hope that Manchester United management will fire Erik ten Hag next season, otherwise it is very likely that Manchester United will continue to decline in the standings and will even be thrown out of the Champions League or Europe.