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September 13, 2024, 09:27:31 PM
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Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.
It's probably going to be an away or draw game, from my perspective even it's a mere prediction that could go side ways I still see capacity in Manchester united although their flaws are likely to increase since their last match but I see would pick them over Southampton. one reason I believe Southampton will be on their nerves to win Manchester United is the fact that it's their home and letting someone beat you in your home is very shameful so trying to put this shame out Southampton would probably be forced to do better than Manchester united.

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September 13, 2024, 09:32:44 PM
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Erik ten Hag simply tells Ronaldo to mind his own business here.  Grin  Honestly I believe Ronaldo is completely right about criticizing Manchester United's condition for years. This team is too far away from their good old days.

Ronaldo is one of the legends for this team. When he came back there I got so happy. He really did his best and performed well also. But they treated him unfairly and he was right about leaving after that. Now the owners are different of course. With Erik ten Hag or not, I want to see some success. Probably it will be without him by the way. Because you all see what's going on. Can't one improve even a little?  Huh

From what i've seen that Ten Haag can't handle criticism. That's why he's terrible. No doubt that he never takes any accountability for his club.And watching him speak is so cringe.

How can we expect Manchester United players to be accountable for their performances? when their manager seems allergic to it? That's why they went from title contenders to being told just a top-4 finish and secure a UCL spot is alright. I'm sure Fergie never did it in the past.

So much delusional on Ten Hag. But i do like how he showed a very unrealistic approach in this interview.
Je pushes ghe blame of poor performance on the players so tell me how will he imlrove when he is shying away from nog accepting the facts that if the players are not doing well on the pitch, it os him that is not doing well too. He hates criticism and i think he should be criticized if that is what will make him improve the club performance or leave the club. Ten Hag needs to know how to be in good relationship with the players maybe that will help him in his job.

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Today at 04:25:58 AM
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Lol Grin it is very unfortunate when a club as big as Manchester United has to obey a manager like Erik Ten Hag, let alone trusting his slow process, even though with almost 3 seasons, Erik Ten Hag should have been able to provide better improvements but as far as I can see Man United's performance is still the same and tends to decrease, the amount of money to recruit players also does not help the club at all. If the club is willing to accept all the risks, they must also be prepared if they end up finishing in the middle of the table on par with average clubs, even now Man United does not look like a top club because its quality is decreasing.
Handing over the club to a new manager means placing more trust in the new manager than the previous manager and expecting the team to perform well under the new manager. Manchester United expected that and relied on Ten Hag but far from improving the team's performance this manager has consistently deteriorated under him.  

In the case of other clubs, if a new manager is appointed, if that manager does not perform well, then the manager is removed from the responsibility of the next season, but Manchester United did not do that, they only trusted this manager. Under this manager the team performed poorly for the entire season but they trusted this manager for one more season which resulted in this manager consistently making the team a bad team.  

Since Manchester United has extended the contract with this manager for one more season, this manager may be seen in Manchester United for one more season, but the manager of Manchester United may change in the next season.

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Today at 04:57:59 AM
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Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.
It's probably going to be an away or draw game, from my perspective even it's a mere prediction that could go side ways I still see capacity in Manchester united although their flaws are likely to increase since their last match but I see would pick them over Southampton. one reason I believe Southampton will be on their nerves to win Manchester United is the fact that it's their home and letting someone beat you in your home is very shameful so trying to put this shame out Southampton would probably be forced to do better than Manchester united.
Sorry I don't understand your statement that you prefer them (Manchester United) over Southampton, does that mean you choose Manchester United, right? Then why did you say Southampton will try hard to win because they are playing at home? Does that mean you prefer the home team to win this match? I'm honestly a little confused by what you're saying.
In my opinion, no matter how bad Manchester United's performance is, it will be more embarrassing for them if Man United is defeated by a promoted club, it will lower their reputation, so I don't think it matters even though this is an away match for Manchester United because I think they will try hard to steal points from the home team, whether it's 1 point or 3 points.

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Today at 05:00:47 AM
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Are any of you considering betting on the four matches below this weekend?
In my opinion there are at least 4 matches that are quite easy to predict as to who will win, here is the list:

Southamton vs Manchester United
Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester City vs Brentford
Brighton vs Ipswich

Those are at least 4 matches that we have a good chance of winning if we bet. The Fulham vs West Ham and Crystal Palace vs Leicester matches are a bit difficult to predict considering that the four teams were both not good in the first 3 matches this season.
It seems as if we are walking together with your prediction I just placed my bet this morning before coming to this thread and I saw this post.

Exectly what I predicted but I wasn't have good confidence with the Southampton Vs Manchester United match so I decided to give the alway team Manchester United win or draw option though Manchester United are favorite to win this particular game but due to poor performance this season after winning only one game out of struggle and lost two.

But I believe they can't loss to Southampton because Southampton are also not in a good form that is why I gave Manchester United ×2.

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Handing over the club to a new manager means placing more trust in the new manager than the previous manager and expecting the team to perform well under the new manager. Manchester United expected that and relied on Ten Hag but far from improving the team's performance this manager has consistently deteriorated under him.  

In the case of other clubs, if a new manager is appointed, if that manager does not perform well, then the manager is removed from the responsibility of the next season, but Manchester United did not do that, they only trusted this manager. Under this manager the team performed poorly for the entire season but they trusted this manager for one more season which resulted in this manager consistently making the team a bad team.  

Since Manchester United has extended the contract with this manager for one more season, this manager may be seen in Manchester United for one more season, but the manager of Manchester United may change in the next season.

It's very obvious that Erik Ten Hag is having a slow start this season, I think the board are already aware of that but you don't expect them to just sack him immediately since the league just started and they just extended his contract, they'll wait patiently to see how it goes and if things doesn't get better by the end of the year then they'll have no option than to terminate his contract by January, and I feel that there's a replacement already in the team for him in person of his assistant (Ruud Van Nistelrooy) who was a former player of the club and club legend. Talking about other clubs, remember that Arsenal didn't sack Arteta even after two years of poor performance they gave him time and watched him become successful, however Ten Hag was successful in his 1st season, he finished in top 4 and won a trophy and even participated in several finals and even though the 2nd season in the EPL wasn't as expected cause he finished in 8th position, atleast he still Won the FA Cup so that's enough reason for the board to consider giving him another chance and if he fails to deliver they'll definitely sack him, afterall they were in talks with other potential managers during the Pre-Season before they considered giving Erik Ten Hag a second chance.

Lol Grin it is very unfortunate when a club as big as Manchester United has to obey a manager like Erik Ten Hag, let alone trusting his slow process, even though with almost 3 seasons, Erik Ten Hag should have been able to provide better improvements but as far as I can see Man United's performance is still the same and tends to decrease, the amount of money to recruit players also does not help the club at all. If the club is willing to accept all the risks, they must also be prepared if they end up finishing in the middle of the table on par with average clubs, even now Man United does not look like a top club because its quality is decreasing.

I don't understand what you mean by Manchester United has to obey Ten Hag, my question is, is Erik Ten Hag bigger than the club or is the club bigger than him? The club didn't even obey a high profiled manager like Mourinho talk more of Ten Hag, what you don't understand is that the board had a meeting at the end of last season to deliberate on sacking him but pardoned him based on his achievements in just 2 years of arrival which is participating in several finals about 6 or so, winning the Carabao Cup and Winning the FA against the most outstanding team in the league, it's now left for Ten Hag to make use of his second chance wisely cause if by January the board are not satisfied with the teams performance then he might end up losing his position as the manager of that club.

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Today at 05:37:06 AM
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Handing over the club to a new manager means placing more trust in the new manager than the previous manager and expecting the team to perform well under the new manager. Manchester United expected that and relied on Ten Hag but far from improving the team's performance this manager has consistently deteriorated under him.  
All club management always places great trust in the Manager who has just been appointed as head coach, moreover, before selecting a Manager who is considered capable of improving the quality of the team, the Management first carries out a selection from several available Managers. Based on Manchester United's current performance, extending Ten Hag's contract is a big mistake made by the Management, they must be firm when it comes to work so they can immediately save the club from a deeper slump. Some Great Managers are still available right now, Zidane and Tuchel are experienced managers, I think if Manchester United Management chose one of those two names, maybe the situation would be different.

In the case of other clubs, if a new manager is appointed, if that manager does not perform well, then the manager is removed from the responsibility of the next season, but Manchester United did not do that, they only trusted this manager. Under this manager the team performed poorly for the entire season but they trusted this manager for one more season which resulted in this manager consistently making the team a bad team.  
The case of dismissing a manager is nothing new in football, several great coaches have also experienced it, such as Jose Mourinho, Thomas Tuchel, Julian Nagelsmann and several other great coaches. Manchester United seem too cold with Ten Hag even though they know the team's performance is difficult to improve under his management. I am very skeptical about Ten Hag's ability this season, especially since the EPL is getting more competitive after Liverpool returned to their best form after appointing a new coach. Dark horse teams like Aston Villa, Brighton and Newcastle are also ready to provide a surprise, So Manchester United chances of finishing in the European zone at the end of the season are very small.

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Today at 07:54:37 AM
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Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.
Manchester United has better quality players than Southampton at the moment, but it can be said that the performance of the two teams is not much different at the moment, so it is too risky for us to bet on one of these teams to be winning later, Manchester United is in poor performance even though they have made a lot of improvements in the transfer market this season, apart from that, if I look at the meetings between the two teams so far, I see that Manchester United always experience difficulties when facing Southampton in the English league and that's why I also doubt that Manchester United will be able to beat Southampton in the match, I I personally see that it is very likely that the match will end in a draw if you look at the current condition of the two teams.

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Today at 08:08:32 AM
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Are any of you considering betting on the four matches below this weekend?
In my opinion there are at least 4 matches that are quite easy to predict as to who will win, here is the list:

Southamton vs Manchester United
Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester City vs Brentford
Brighton vs Ipswich
How confident are you that Manchester United will win over Southampton with the bold writing you gave.
Liverpool, Manchester City and Brighton for me, maybe the chances of winning make me confident to bet on them, while for Manchester United it doesn't.

Of the four matches you mentioned, I will include them in the betting list but my choice is the Southampton vs Manchester United match is a draw. Liverpool, Manchester City, Brighton I choose to win. This bet is 1x2.

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Today at 08:18:49 AM
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Are any of you considering betting on the four matches below this weekend?
In my opinion there are at least 4 matches that are quite easy to predict as to who will win, here is the list:

Southamton vs Manchester United
Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester City vs Brentford
Brighton vs Ipswich
How confident are you that Manchester United will win over Southampton with the bold writing you gave.
Liverpool, Manchester City and Brighton for me, maybe the chances of winning make me confident to bet on them, while for Manchester United it doesn't.

Of the four matches you mentioned, I will include them in the betting list but my choice is the Southampton vs Manchester United match is a draw. Liverpool, Manchester City, Brighton I choose to win. This bet is 1x2.

We know that Southampton are a weak team. But at the same time, Manchester United is a team whose performance is impossible to predict. The performance of this group is very erratic. No wonder Manchester United dropped points against Southampton. As Southampton will play for a draw in this match. So breaking Southampton's defense will be more difficult for Manchester United's players.

On the other hand, Liverpool team will have an easy win against Nottingham Forest. Liverpool and Manchester City are in very good form this season. Importantly, Liverpool have yet to concede a single goal this season. Liverpool's attack is also strong. So Liverpool can easily get 3 points against a team like Nottingham Forest.

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Today at 08:25:34 AM
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Are any of you considering betting on the four matches below this weekend?
In my opinion there are at least 4 matches that are quite easy to predict as to who will win, here is the list:

Southamton vs Manchester United
Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester City vs Brentford
Brighton vs Ipswich
How confident are you that Manchester United will win over Southampton with the bold writing you gave.
Liverpool, Manchester City and Brighton for me, maybe the chances of winning make me confident to bet on them, while for Manchester United it doesn't.

Of the four matches you mentioned, I will include them in the betting list but my choice is the Southampton vs Manchester United match is a draw. Liverpool, Manchester City, Brighton I choose to win. This bet is 1x2.

Exactly the same game I played on my ticket. I just don't trust Manchester united on this, considering the fact that they will be traveling away from home, i.e going to Southampton stadium.

I keep having this believe that Southampton will pull up a good fight to get a draw or even secure all 3 points to win the game. While Liverpool, Manchester city and Brighton will definitely win their game considering how well they've performed so far this season. Brighton coach secured august manager of the month. I think that we should be expecting some kind of competition from him and the team.

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Today at 09:16:34 AM
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How confident are you that Manchester United will win over Southampton with the bold writing you gave.
Liverpool, Manchester City and Brighton for me, maybe the chances of winning make me confident to bet on them, while for Manchester United it doesn't.

Of the four matches you mentioned, I will include them in the betting list but my choice is the Southampton vs Manchester United match is a draw. Liverpool, Manchester City, Brighton I choose to win. This bet is 1x2.

We know that Southampton are a weak team. But at the same time, Manchester United is a team whose performance is impossible to predict. The performance of this group is very erratic. No wonder Manchester United dropped points against Southampton. As Southampton will play for a draw in this match. So breaking Southampton's defense will be more difficult for Manchester United's players.

On the other hand, Liverpool team will have an easy win against Nottingham Forest. Liverpool and Manchester City are in very good form this season. Importantly, Liverpool have yet to concede a single goal this season. Liverpool's attack is also strong. So Liverpool can easily get 3 points against a team like Nottingham Forest.

Beyond a doubt Liverpool is the only team, on your list, I'll surely bet on to win. Man U, will have a hard time winning Southampton, if they do not work together as a team. Their defense is weak, and Rashford is a bit not competent to handle the forward for Man u. And recently the fans are not even happy with him, he's complaining of being bullied. However, the Man u game can't be correctly predicted, unlike that of Liverpool, they've got the game play in place, and would outperform their opponent.

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We know that Southampton are a weak team. But at the same time, Manchester United is a team whose performance is impossible to predict. The performance of this group is very erratic. No wonder Manchester United dropped points against Southampton. As Southampton will play for a draw in this match. So breaking Southampton's defense will be more difficult for Manchester United's players.

I don't want to accept that Southampton is a weaker team, they may be having a tough time just as united but they're not weak. I believe you've watched matches where the so called "weaker" team that's on a losing streak went on to humble the stronger opponent, so any EPL team that underrates Southampton will be at it's own peril. The poor start to the season is already putting doubts in the hearts of United fans if ETH is the right man for the job, so he's going to treat the match with utmost importance.

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Today at 09:25:00 AM
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Are any of you considering betting on the four matches below this weekend?
In my opinion there are at least 4 matches that are quite easy to predict as to who will win, here is the list:

Southamton vs Manchester United
Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester City vs Brentford
Brighton vs Ipswich
How confident are you that Manchester United will win over Southampton with the bold writing you gave.
Liverpool, Manchester City and Brighton for me, maybe the chances of winning make me confident to bet on them, while for Manchester United it doesn't.

Of the four matches you mentioned, I will include them in the betting list but my choice is the Southampton vs Manchester United match is a draw. Liverpool, Manchester City, Brighton I choose to win. This bet is 1x2.
The four matches you mentioned I think are nice options to stake on them but for me the options I'll be going for will vary based on the games.
For the Southamton vs Manchester United, I'll be going for the option of both teams to score because I think it's almost impossible for none of them to find the back of the net.
For Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest game, I'll go for the option of home team to score more than 2+ goals and still win
 Same option I used in the Liverpool game will be repeated in the Manchester City vs Brentford
And lastly, I'll go for a home win and the game to produce 2+ goals in the Brighton vs Ipswich Town game

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Today at 10:43:01 AM
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It seems like Liverpool and Manchester City are going to have a comfortable weekend. Because they are playing home games against much smaller opponents.  Smiley  I don't expect any point losses in those ones for the favourites.

Chelsea are playing against Bournemouth away in the last game of the day. Not the best start for Chelsea by 4 points in 3 games so far. It could have been 6 points if they didn't lose points home against Crystal Palace despite playing really dominant. But I believe they will win today. It might not be that easy considering Bournemouth are unbeaten after 3 weeks passed.

Lastly I assume Aston Villa would win easily against Everton home today. Everton are in terrible shape...  Sad

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Today at 11:01:14 AM
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We know that Southampton are a weak team. But at the same time, Manchester United is a team whose performance is impossible to predict. The performance of this group is very erratic. No wonder Manchester United dropped points against Southampton. As Southampton will play for a draw in this match. So breaking Southampton's defense will be more difficult for Manchester United's players.

I don't want to accept that Southampton is a weaker team, they may be having a tough time just as united but they're not weak. I believe you've watched matches where the so called "weaker" team that's on a losing streak went on to humble the stronger opponent, so any EPL team that underrates Southampton will be at it's own peril. The poor start to the season is already putting thoughts in the hearts of United fans if ETH is the right man for the job, so he's going to treat the match with utmost importance.

Hahahahah the least I could say to Eric Ten Hag it is better now before it becomes too late, Lossing two of the first three games in the beginning of the season really means a lot to him, it is time to right the wrong even though it is an away match some thing can still be done, however, beating Southampton in their home ground is not going to be an easy ride for Manchester United but if tackled very well with a possible early goal to destabilize Southampton, the game can possibly end in their favor and they will home victoriously with a possible 3 goals to 1 Manchester United 3 and Southampton 1, a possible both teams to score.

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Today at 11:15:36 AM
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It seems like Liverpool and Manchester City are going to have a comfortable weekend. Because they are playing home games against much smaller opponents.  Smiley  I don't expect any point losses in those ones for the favourites.

Chelsea are playing against Bournemouth away in the last game of the day. Not the best start for Chelsea by 4 points in 3 games so far. It could have been 6 points if they didn't lose points home against Crystal Palace despite playing really dominant. But I believe they will win today. It might not be that easy considering Bournemouth are unbeaten after 3 weeks passed.

Lastly I assume Aston Villa would win easily against Everton home today. Everton are in terrible shape...  Sad
The big clubs in the EPL might have a good day since they will play small clubs. Manchester United will slog it out with Southampton, Liverpool will play Nottingham Forest and Manchester City will meet Brentford. However, it would be inappropriate to underrate these clubs because they still have good players who can surprise these top sides.

The game between Bournemouth and Chelsea is important to the Blues. They have not shown that the massive investment in the coach and players is growing. They spent more than most clubs in the EPL this season, yet they managed to win just one game and gain just four points. A win today will be a relief to Enzo Maresca but a loss will put him under pressure.

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Today at 11:17:42 AM
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Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.
Manchester United has better quality players than Southampton at the moment, but it can be said that the performance of the two teams is not much different at the moment, so it is too risky for us to bet on one of these teams to be winning later, Manchester United is in poor performance even though they have made a lot of improvements in the transfer market this season, apart from that, if I look at the meetings between the two teams so far, I see that Manchester United always experience difficulties when facing Southampton in the English league and that's why I also doubt that Manchester United will be able to beat Southampton in the match, I I personally see that it is very likely that the match will end in a draw if you look at the current condition of the two teams.

on matchday 2 southampton lost 1-0 to nottm forest then on matchday 3 southampton lost 3-1 to brentford, from these 2 matches alone we can see how southampton will end up when facing man utd.

I do not place a bet today but I am 100% sure that Man Utd will be the winner even though Southampton is the host (my prediction is 2-0 for Man Utd's win).

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Today at 12:21:35 PM
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Tomorrow the opening game is going to be Southampton - Manchester United. What is your opinion on this game? [...]

I think this match is very unpredictable however, even though manchester united are the favorites based on the available odds, i would prefer not to bet at all for it, because based on their recent matches, it is very unfavorable to choose between these two. However, i think the odds for +0,75 for Southampton are very interesting for betting.
Manchester United has better quality players than Southampton at the moment, but it can be said that the performance of the two teams is not much different at the moment, so it is too risky for us to bet on one of these teams to be winning later, Manchester United is in poor performance even though they have made a lot of improvements in the transfer market this season, apart from that, if I look at the meetings between the two teams so far, I see that Manchester United always experience difficulties when facing Southampton in the English league and that's why I also doubt that Manchester United will be able to beat Southampton in the match, I I personally see that it is very likely that the match will end in a draw if you look at the current condition of the two teams.

on matchday 2 southampton lost 1-0 to nottm forest then on matchday 3 southampton lost 3-1 to brentford, from these 2 matches alone we can see how southampton will end up when facing man utd.

I do not place a bet today but I am 100% sure that Man Utd will be the winner even though Southampton is the host (my prediction is 2-0 for Man Utd's win).
A lot of people’s where bet against Manchester United that southampton will find the match very easily to win their unaware that Manchester United also change their playing patterns this season they, because they don’t this season should be like previous seasons which they try as much possible to make their performances so much better than the past season.

However, there match against southamptonis still on going and from the results given that Manchester United is leading the match by 2-0 which show us that Manchester United ready to do well the seat: The southampton only dominate the entire possession but Man united is leading by goal and the first half is almost finished which I’m aspecting more goals from them when they return back to the second half.

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I do not place a bet today but I am 100% sure that Man Utd will be the winner even though Southampton is the host (my prediction is 2-0 for Man Utd's win).

Your prediction is playing out, but there is enough time left in the game to judge, if it'll end 2-0. Unlike, I first imagined Rashford's performance to be incompetent in this match, he's been doing a very nice job, he made a very nice finish in the second goal. Waiting on the second half of the game, to see what Southampton has to offer.

           

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