⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Tmoonz]

What is happening to Forest is caused by their president Evangelos Marinakis because the sacking of their former coach Nuno Santos for non sporting reasons. When there is a change in the coaching crew of any team it has a direct effect on the way and manner that, the team play Nuno should have been allowed to continue as head coach of forest till the end of the season.

I don’t know why Nottingham forest decide d to sack their formal coach, they struggled in man really tried for Nottingham forest, their performance was good then, I just dont know why the decide to change him, and as we can see Nottingham forest performance is now terrible, am sure they Will be regretting why they sacked their formal coach right now. Nottingham forest were struggling to qualify for the champions league last season, but they couldn’t achieve that, and currently they struggling at the bottom of the table.

Internal problems between Nuno and the club's top brass, especially the owner, have disrupted Nottingham's current situation and performance. According to several recent reports, the relationship between Nuno as coach and the club's management, especially the owner, is strained and seems irreparable, forcing Nuno to leave Nottingham despite the high expectations placed on him given his outstanding performance last season.

Given the circumstances, it is only natural that such a situation would arise. Forcing Nuno and Nottingham to remain together would be extremely difficult, especially in cases of internal conflicts where the coach and players are at odds, as seen in the examples of Cristiano and Sancho at Manchester United. However, when the conflict is between the coach and the club owner, it is inevitable that the coach will be the one to leave.

You're actually right, firing that coach was the greatest mistake of this season at least the could have given him till the end of the season like that dude actually did wonders last season with the Nottingham Forest team I believe has it been he was given enough time he could have transform that team to a more better team but because of one or two bad start for the season they believe he has nothing to offer again then fire him, he could tell the kind of relationship he might have built with the players, now I think the team is not in order and it's really affecting them and they need to do something about it before it's too late.

[Velvet78]

It's bad news because Manchester United upcoming match against Liverpool will be tough for Amorim. Although Liverpool has lost their last two Premier League matches, making it possible for United to have an advantage, I'm still unsure about predicting a win.

I see it from this aspect currently. Liverpool lost their last 3 official games. They are in desperate need of a win now. The international break is a nice opportunity to take a deep breath for Arne Slot.

I think he will make use of this break nicely. They are currently given 1.62 odds. If they don't face serious injuries after national games, I believe in them. By the way, the last 2 games between them at Anfield ended up with draws which is also a thing I know...

[Hardyrobust]

I don’t know why Nottingham forest decide d to sack their formal coach, they struggled in man really tried for Nottingham forest, their ]
You're actually right, firing that coach was the greatest mistake of this season at least the could have given him till the end of the season like that dude actually did wonders last season with the Nottingham Forest team I believe has it been he was given enough time he could have transform that team to a more better team but because of one or two bad start for the season they believe he has nothing to offer again then fire him, he could tell the kind of relationship he might have built with the players, now I think the team is not in order and it's really affecting them and they need to do something about it before it's too late.

if we take a look at Manchester United the club has been changing coach with the mindset that the team poor performance is as result of there coach. After all these changes the team performance has not improved instead the team is even getting worst. Nottingham forest was really better off last season when compared to there recent performance. Sometimes most of the problems this club maybe facing maybe coming from the management of the club. In the case of Nottingham forest I don't really know what transpire between the coach and the management that made them to sack him, it is obvious that it was a very poor decision in the side of the management.

[Nightwatchmare]

Ruben Amorim knows that his team isn't good enough to play with his system and he refused to change to a system that will suit Manchester United even when he knows that if he continues with his poor performance in Manchester United, he will lose his job.

if you are a football manager and you knows that this playing system is what's you knows what to do best and it's what's gives you success, will you change and be doing something you don't really know how because a group of fans or a few fans says you should change?
They should just let the guy breath, this Manchester united team is terribly bàd, so let's their fan not expecting a miracle to happen overnight.

I understand what you are talking about, but you should know that for a manager to use a 3-4-3 formation in the premier league, the team the manager is managing needs to have a good defence and midfield to be able to stop their opponents from scoring, and since Manchester United's defence and midfield aren't strong enough to withstand the pressure from their opponents, that is why people are advising Ruben Amorim to use the formation that would suit Manchester United. But since Ruben Amorim doesn't want to change his system, Manchester United players should get used to the system and start winning their matches easily, because i don't want Ruben Amorim to be sacked.

[Alpha Marine]

I don’t know why Nottingham forest decide d to sack their formal coach, they struggled in man really tried for Nottingham forest, their performance was good then, I just dont know why the decide to change him, and as we can see Nottingham forest performance is now terrible, am sure they Will be regretting why they sacked their formal coach right now. Nottingham forest were struggling to qualify for the champions league last season, but they couldn’t achieve that, and currently they struggling at the bottom of the table.

I don't have a problem with a club sacking a coach if he's no longer performing or on bad terms with the management of the club; my major problem is hiring a bad coach or a worse manager than the one that was sacked. If Nottingham Forest felt Nuno was no longer good or the relationship with the owners had soured, so the solution was hiring a manager who finished 17th with Tottenham? How does that make sense? They fired a manager who finished 6th with Nott Forest, for a manager who was just one place away from relegation with Tottenham.

Manchester United did the same thing with Ten Hag. Sacking Ten Hag was a good decision, it came late in my opinion, but somehow they felt the solution was hiring a Amorim. It always ends badly. They will sack Amorim soon enough but they will still hiring another average manager.

[Adbitco]

Yea, at least Manchester United were able to get a win but a two wins in a row will be very much unlikely, after Liverpool has experience three defeats in a row and now their next game after the break will be at Anfield. They will be fighting to get back to winning ways and I expect United to lose the game or at best savage a tie which will even be difficult looking at the over all team strength against each other.

Both teams needing all 3 points and only one of the team can get it or they simplify share it 1 point apiece for a draw. Although, Liverpool has lost 3 consecutive games so far which will make this their next meeting a tough and again, it's going to be played in front of their home fans against bitter rivals Manchester United, so it's only natural that Liverpool will at least put up a better fight but that the same time, we shouldn't underestimate Manchester United.

[Nightwatchmare]

What is happening to Forest is caused by their president Evangelos Marinakis because the sacking of their former coach Nuno Santos for non sporting reasons. When there is a change in the coaching crew of any team it has a direct effect on the way and manner that, the team play Nuno should have been allowed to continue as head coach of forest till the end of the season.

I don’t know why Nottingham forest decide d to sack their formal coach, they struggled in man really tried for Nottingham forest, their performance was good then, I just dont know why the decide to change him, and as we can see Nottingham forest performance is now terrible, am sure they Will be regretting why they sacked their formal coach right now. Nottingham forest were struggling to qualify for the champions league last season, but they couldn’t achieve that, and currently they struggling at the bottom of the table.

Internal problems between Nuno and the club's top brass, especially the owner, have disrupted Nottingham's current situation and performance. According to several recent reports, the relationship between Nuno as coach and the club's management, especially the owner, is strained and seems irreparable, forcing Nuno to leave Nottingham despite the high expectations placed on him given his outstanding performance last season.

Given the circumstances, it is only natural that such a situation would arise. Forcing Nuno and Nottingham to remain together would be extremely difficult, especially in cases of internal conflicts where the coach and players are at odds, as seen in the examples of Cristiano and Sancho at Manchester United. However, when the conflict is between the coach and the club owner, it is inevitable that the coach will be the one to leave.

You're actually right, firing that coach was the greatest mistake of this season at least the could have given him till the end of the season like that dude actually did wonders last season with the Nottingham Forest team I believe has it been he was given enough time he could have transform that team to a more better team but because of one or two bad start for the season they believe he has nothing to offer again then fire him, he could tell the kind of relationship he might have built with the players, now I think the team is not in order and it's really affecting them and they need to do something about it before it's too late.

What just happened to Nottingham Forest is the saying that goes this way: You don't know the value of what you have until you lose it. Nottingham Forest board will be regretting why they even sacked Nuno Espirito Santo because if he was still in charge of Nottingham Forest, Nottingham Forest team would have been doing better by now. Just for the good work Nuno Espirito Santo did in Nottingham Forest last season, despite him not performing the way Nottingham Forest board were expecting him to perform in the start of the Premier League season, they should have given him more time to turn things around in Nottingham Forest because he knows the team better than any coach.

[KTChampions]

It's bad news because Manchester United upcoming match against Liverpool will be tough for Amorim. Although Liverpool has lost their last two Premier League matches, making it possible for United to have an advantage, I'm still unsure about predicting a win. Manchester United inconsistent results have been disappointing, and I'm not confident they'll win this game if I bet on them. Manchester United have played some big matches so far this season, and I don't think they put up a strong fight in those games, as they were defeated by Arsenal and Manchester City. Chelsea was the only strong team they've managed to beat.

I don't see anything bad for United. Liverpool are in crisis and it's better to face them now than later, when they might be in better shape. Nobody expects United to win, so they can play relaxed, but for Liverpool even a draw would be a disaster, so they are under a lot of pressure. Incidentally, bookmakers aren't pricing this game as favorably for Liverpool as one might expect:

1.62 - 4.40 - 4.90

If Liverpool's victory was predetermined, the bookmakers wouldn't be offering a generous 62%, right?

[Lannakosa]

What just happened to Nottingham Forest is the saying that goes this way: You don't know the value of what you have until you lose it. Nottingham Forest board will be regretting why they even sacked Nuno Espirito Santo because if he was still in charge of Nottingham Forest, Nottingham Forest team would have been doing better by now. Just for the good work Nuno Espirito Santo did in Nottingham Forest last season, despite him not performing the way Nottingham Forest board were expecting him to perform in the start of the Premier League season, they should have given him more time to turn things around in Nottingham Forest because he knows the team better than any coach.

I initially said that Nottingham Forest should be grateful to Espiritu for everything they'd achieved, but instead, we saw dissatisfaction among the management, and his mistake was to air this conflict publicly. When I learned that Espiritu was leaving Nottingham, I assumed they would have difficult times because the new manager would change everything. When it became clear who their new manager would be it really surprised me, and perhaps that's why it was a little disappointing, although I think it was already clear what this would lead to.

[martinom]

Man United have inconsistent performances, and Amorim's performance is also attracting attention, with some believing his system is flawed, but Amorim insisted that he would never change his stance, even at the risk of being fired. I think the win over Sunderland is just a temporary relief because after the international break, Man United will face last season's EPL champions, and of course, it will be a very tough battle, considering that Liverpool will have the advantage as hosts.

But not without reason, Man United still has a chance to get points because their focus is only on the Premier League, while Liverpool might have their attention a little divided because 3 days after, they have to compete in the Champions League. Apart from that, Man United may have a slight advantage in stamina and fitness because not many of their players played during the international break.

Yes, in fact it is fundamental for these players to always try to be consistent and play. I understand that many players don't manage to play and then lose their form and are unable to be more incisive in important matches, but I think that these will be very fit because they all play.

[qurbanshah02]

I don't see anything bad for United. Liverpool are in crisis and it's better to face them now than later, when they might be in better shape. Nobody expects United to win, so they can play relaxed, but for Liverpool even a draw would be a disaster, so they are under a lot of pressure. Incidentally, bookmakers aren't pricing this game as favorably for Liverpool as one might expect:

1.62 - 4.40 - 4.90

If Liverpool's victory was predetermined, the bookmakers wouldn't be offering a generous 62%, right?

They cannot compete with a strong and good team like Liverpool at the moment because they have strengthened themselves with a lot of good performance and Manchester United will have to strengthen themselves in many matches. According to their performance at the moment, they will never be able to weaken Liverpool. Doing this can be somewhat easy for Manchester United because when Liverpool tries to score a goal ahead of them, Liverpool's strength can also defeat Manchester United. They are making such a prediction with the hope of a draw with Manchester United and I hope that this match will be successful only because of Liverpool's good performance and I also hope that Manchester United will not be able to draw.

[bitcoin_mining]

I don't see anything bad for United. Liverpool are in crisis and it's better to face them now than later, when they might be in better shape. Nobody expects United to win, so they can play relaxed, but for Liverpool even a draw would be a disaster, so they are under a lot of pressure. Incidentally, bookmakers aren't pricing this game as favorably for Liverpool as one might expect:

1.62 - 4.40 - 4.90

If Liverpool's victory was predetermined, the bookmakers wouldn't be offering a generous 62%, right?

They cannot compete with a strong and good team like Liverpool at the moment because they have strengthened themselves with a lot of good performance and Manchester United will have to strengthen themselves in many matches. According to their performance at the moment, they will never be able to weaken Liverpool. Doing this can be somewhat easy for Manchester United because when Liverpool tries to score a goal ahead of them, Liverpool's strength can also defeat Manchester United. They are making such a prediction with the hope of a draw with Manchester United and I hope that this match will be successful only because of Liverpool's good performance and I also hope that Manchester United will not be able to draw.

In football, nothing can be said for sure, Manchester United has defeated Chelsea in this season of the Premier League, Chelsea has defeated Liverpool again, Manchester United will face Liverpool again in the future, so if Manchester United can play on a good football field, then it will not be impossible for them to defeat Liverpool. I admit that Liverpool will be much ahead of Manchester United in terms of teams, but the performance on the field is the main thing and the form recently. Liverpool has not been able to perform well in the last few matches, although they should have performed well in those matches. If Manchester United performs the same performance against Liverpool as in the last matches, on the contrary, if Manchester United can improve their performance, then Liverpool can be defeated by Manchester United.

[Roseline492]

Chelsea isn't terrible, it's Liverpool that is having trouble. The problem was obvious, they played their best on Palace game, then rested players on Galatasaray game, and then played their best on Chelsea game, and in return they lost all. Liverpool is really doing terrible at the moment and they need to figure out the problem, otherwise they are not going to get the best out of this.

I understand that it may not be a great feeling to keep losing, but there are lessons to learn out of this. And the biggest lesson to learn is that if you want to rotate, even when you are rotating, do not put people at wrong positions. Like there is no reason why Szbo should be right back, and he had a game there for some weird reason.

If we are saying about terrible through the past matches on this season between the two, Chelsea is the most terrible because they have 11 point and Liverpool 15 point so the people with the higher point are greater but the past two match says Chelsea to be on the peaking form while Liverpool is not but Chelsea will have to get above before fully determined the most terrible. As important as champions League they should have added more squad to the original ones instead of not playing all and besides when a season has not mature every coach keeps the idea of reserving players off, so Liverpool did themselves for over planning things.

[Unsoldier]

The Red Devils are currently 6 points away from the leader technically. It means only 2 wins. Not too bad for now but inconsistency is the undeniable truth anyway...

Lol, while it is true that they are not far off the summit, but everyone knows they are not realistically going after the title, neither are they title contenders. You don't go from finishing in the bottom half of the table (15th if i remember correctly) to winning the league. Amorim's target this season would realistically be a top 7 or 8 finish at best, and IMO, we are looking at 5th position down to 8th, because i don't think there is a top 4 chance for Manchester United this season.

At the beginning of the season, I predicted that Manchester United would finish this year in 10th place — five positions higher than last season. It’s still too early to say where the teams will end up in the Premier League, but I don’t really see any big improvement in United’s play. So I think my prediction won’t work out, because the Red Devils will probably finish around 11th–13th place. A little better than last year, but that’s about it.

[Proty]

The Red Devils are currently 6 points away from the leader technically. It means only 2 wins. Not too bad for now but inconsistency is the undeniable truth anyway...

Lol, while it is true that they are not far off the summit, but everyone knows they are not realistically going after the title, neither are they title contenders. You don't go from finishing in the bottom half of the table (15th if i remember correctly) to winning the league. Amorim's target this season would realistically be a top 7 or 8 finish at best, and IMO, we are looking at 5th position down to 8th, because i don't think there is a top 4 chance for Manchester United this season.

At the beginning of the season, I predicted that Manchester United would finish this year in 10th place — five positions higher than last season. It’s still too early to say where the teams will end up in the Premier League, but I don’t really see any big improvement in United’s play. So I think my prediction won’t work out, because the Red Devils will probably finish around 11th–13th place. A little better than last year, but that’s about it.

I think this your prediction is wrong, there is doubt that the team performance isn't good. However, with what I have seen in there last two matches, the match they played against Chelsea and the recent match they played against Sunderland. I think there is a little improvement in the team performance compared to last season. So am thinking they may not pass 10th position. Although is too early as you said for one to conclude yet.

[Volgastallion]

Actual leaderboard is super strange right now, we have a lot of good teams behind other which are a shit one, for example we have Sunderlan in top five until this round, and for sure they are not so good, and for sure they are gonna be out of the top 10 in a few rounds more, Manchester United which is a complete failure is still prett close to european spots.

[red4slash]

Internal problems between Nuno and the club's top brass, especially the owner, have disrupted Nottingham's current situation and performance. According to several recent reports, the relationship between Nuno as coach and the club's management, especially the owner, is strained and seems irreparable, forcing Nuno to leave Nottingham despite the high expectations placed on him given his outstanding performance last season.

Given the circumstances, it is only natural that such a situation would arise. Forcing Nuno and Nottingham to remain together would be extremely difficult, especially in cases of internal conflicts where the coach and players are at odds, as seen in the examples of Cristiano and Sancho at Manchester United. However, when the conflict is between the coach and the club owner, it is inevitable that the coach will be the one to leave.

You're actually right, firing that coach was the greatest mistake of this season at least the could have given him till the end of the season like that dude actually did wonders last season with the Nottingham Forest team I believe has it been he was given enough time he could have transform that team to a more better team but because of one or two bad start for the season they believe he has nothing to offer again then fire him, he could tell the kind of relationship he might have built with the players, now I think the team is not in order and it's really affecting them and they need to do something about it before it's too late.

As I said, it seems impossible to give him more time because Nuno's problem is not his performance but the issues with the club owner, where tensions have been running high since the start of the season, creating an uncomfortable situation for everyone, including the players. Ultimately, the departure of one of the two will be considered the right decision, even if it means sacrificing certain things, such as current performance.

Such a situation should have been avoided from the start because when egos run high during a dispute, it becomes very difficult for them to restrain themselves, including Nuno and the current owner of Nottingham.
If only they had exercised more restraint from the beginning, such a situation might not have occurred, and it is possible that Nottingham's performance would still be well maintained to this day.

[BitBakerr1]

The Red Devils are currently 6 points away from the leader technically. It means only 2 wins. Not too bad for now but inconsistency is the undeniable truth anyway...

Lol, while it is true that they are not far off the summit, but everyone knows they are not realistically going after the title, neither are they title contenders. You don't go from finishing in the bottom half of the table (15th if i remember correctly) to winning the league. Amorim's target this season would realistically be a top 7 or 8 finish at best, and IMO, we are looking at 5th position down to 8th, because i don't think there is a top 4 chance for Manchester United this season.

At the beginning of the season, I predicted that Manchester United would finish this year in 10th place — five positions higher than last season. It’s still too early to say where the teams will end up in the Premier League, but I don’t really see any big improvement in United’s play. So I think my prediction won’t work out, because the Red Devils will probably finish around 11th–13th place. A little better than last year, but that’s about it.

Yes you are correct there is no much improvement in the Manchester United team they are not inform winning their last match in premier League does not make them inform however there's still  time for them to improve, the problem of Manchester United is not the coach it is the players the players are not performing very well they are not in good shame and a disappointment that after the amount spent in buying players they are not performing as expected, the coach has tried his best in making sure that the team perform as expected but they are not doing that the players are just weak they miss opportunities they don't do the right thing at the right time so I will never blame the Manchester United coach for anything.
If the team comes out 13 positions I will not blame the coach for that because the coach will not be the one to play the football the players will be ones to play the coach will just direct I believe if the players are following the instruction of the coach very well they may come out sixth or seventh position in the league.
Well they still have time to do something about themselves they can still change from and improve very well nothing is impossible when it comes to football so they still have chance to rewrite their wrong and perform well this season.

[JeffBrad12]

Actual leaderboard is super strange right now, we have a lot of good teams behind other which are a shit one, for example we have Sunderlan in top five until this round, and for sure they are not so good, and for sure they are gonna be out of the top 10 in a few rounds more, Manchester United which is a complete failure is still prett close to european spots.

Absolutely disagreed with your opinion. You seems underestimating Sunderland just caused by they came from Championship. They're good. They were drawing against Palace. They also beat Nottingham Forest and Brentford. They're a midtable team, and they deserved it.
Don't forget they have spent 141 million in last summer window. So this is the result of their huge spent.

[Floxynice]

Actual leaderboard is super strange right now, we have a lot of good teams behind other which are a shit one, for example we have Sunderlan in top five until this round, and for sure they are not so good, and for sure they are gonna be out of the top 10 in a few rounds more, Manchester United which is a complete failure is still prett close to european spots.

Absolutely disagreed with your opinion. You seems underestimating Sunderland just caused by they came from Championship. They're good. They were drawing against Palace. They also beat Nottingham Forest and Brentford. They're a midtable team, and they deserved it.
Don't forget they have spent 141 million in last summer window. So this is the result of their huge spent.

Sunderland have earned their spot on the table and we cannot say they don't merit it. They have put in alot of efforts and resources since this season started.  However, it is rather too early to celebrate them, let's see whether they will be able to maintain thesame consistency when injuries and fatigue begin to set in after like 20+ matches. For now, we should respect their efforts because they deserve all the respect for being at the top of the table.