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July 08, 2023, 10:54:33 PM
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Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

They may be addict because of the time and effort they've spent in gambling but they are addicted in a positive way like they know how to control their addiction, and they are realistic about their chances.
Gambling addicts play to sustain their addiction without much effort and they do not know the right and best time to quit, in gambling quitting and knowing the house edge is very important something who are addicted to gambling cannot understand.
These successful gamblers have discipline and their own methods they know when to stop and when to keep going and have insight, you can be addicted in a positive way, and by being in the positive side you are on the safe side.

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July 08, 2023, 10:59:01 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Losing excessive money is one of the criteria of gambling addiction. But it is not fulfilled for the successful gamblers, because they don't lose money, they earn some. So if it would the only criteria or the main one we should say no. But time spent and feeling a need to gamble also come into play

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July 08, 2023, 11:02:32 PM
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Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.
You can be a successful gambler and you won’t be addicted to gambling it’s normal, you might spend time gambling and you might gamble with big amount of money( amount which you know if you lose it won’t affect you). If you are gambling and you are always winning, that those not mean you are going to be called a addicted gambler, but till you start disclosing gambling addiction characters, when you start doing things that normal gambler won’t do, their are some crazy things you will notice is being done by addicted gamblers alone just because they want to gamble, some of them are always doing illegal things like stealing in the society, gambling on loan when you visit a casino shop, talk loan because you want to gamble.

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July 08, 2023, 11:08:43 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

This is an interesting question as it questions the criteria on how one could be called a gambling addict.

Professional gambling players may not be addicted at all at their sport IF the main criteria here is their discipline. Unlike them, addicts are more on the spectrum where they exhaust their resources and suffer due to the consequence of their actions. For professional gamblers, however, they are being paid for their skill and they have tons of sponsors that may fuel their desire to gamble.

Though this may be the case, I do think that there are still some professional gamblers that are also considered as addicts. It is somehow difficult on drawing the line between them.
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July 08, 2023, 11:13:22 PM
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Successful gamblers mean they can make a living at gambling I don't feel there are many who can do this because all I know when it comes to gambling is luck so the word "successful gambler" is probably very rare and it's nothing but winning once in a million dollar lottery win.

Most people who are addicted to gambling have a lot of problems even though they have spent a lot of money, time, energy, emotions etc., because addiction is difficult to control but I do not reject all gamblers the same maybe some who can control when they are gambling can master what must be responsible.

The rest I would not consider this as a profession let alone for a living, in the sense that successful they can what they want from the results of gambling, while we know gambling more losses than wins.

There is no word successful gambler for me, but there are gamblers who are addicted.

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July 08, 2023, 11:28:21 PM
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People who are successful in gambling may not be considered addicts because if we interpret the meaning of someone's success in gambling, it means that the person has a better ability than other people to control himself.
He can control his emotions and not obey or chase victory but manage his gambling game well to get more results.
And this successful gambler can really allocate time, energy and money to achieve that success without having to experience significant defeat as experienced by other people.
And usually, this successful gambler can be wiser in gambling and know how to treat gambling well so he can get something that other people would find difficult to get.

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July 08, 2023, 11:41:30 PM
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I don't know about others, but I certainly wouldn't. They were successful (though idrk what you'd consider as one, since it's basically the same like winning the lottery tbf) because they managed their funds, money, and time properly. They didn't go asking for loans to bet more and were consistent enough in trying to spend what they can for that month alone, trying to get a lucky breakthrough that they can use to invest in something else. Rinse and repeat. Though I don't think anyone has investments in mind when gambling.

And to be fair, addicts may require actual help but in most cases, it's only because it's negatively affecting both themselves and their surroundings, in a really bad way. If you were an addict, but successful, I reckon most wouldn't give a damn about your case. Except for doctors, they might push you to fix some wiring in your brain since it might be what's causing you to die, but that's beside the point. Or, they're just misrecognized as addicts, I mean they are successful after all.

 
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July 08, 2023, 11:50:29 PM
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Whether a gambler is successful or he had been experiencing loss, he is an addict. This is the reason why most of the gamblers want their activities to be secure and confidential. Whatever we do to the community as well as the people in need also gets reflected as I was paying everything with the money won from gambling.

Long back itself gambling,, being drunk and having illegal relationship with more Women were all considered similar. This is how the system works. They won't board on the right path and this is the reason why even a gambler is given the name of addict easily.

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July 09, 2023, 12:42:49 AM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
First off let's start by defining who an addict mean, according to the Oxford dictionary an addict is said to be an enthusiastic devotee of a specified thing or activity. Therefore I think it's right to classify such person as an addict, because just like you stated, to be successful in gambling you must have invested your time, effort and even money which brings us back to the explanation from the Oxford dictionary that says "enthusiastic devotee".

 It doesn't matter how successful you are or how good you're in the risk management of gambling, those who often succeed find it hard to quite since it gets them daily income no matter how little it is, sometimes most people go into gambling with the mindset of playing for fun but after Several trials that yield profits you find them gradually loving the game and constantly staking to earn more, now when they continue playing over a long period of time no matter how successful they get, they can be classified as gambling addict.
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July 09, 2023, 01:16:18 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
some people I know make gambling as job, in this situation, we can not categorize people like this as addicted, because it has become a necessity of life. I have a friend who lives with gambling,  he provides live his family with poker, and without gambling he can't feed his family. but is not as difficult as we imagine because he is professional. he has good money management, if he loses today, he still can feed his family with the winning money he saved before.
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July 09, 2023, 01:38:07 AM
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There is no successful addiction and everything related to negative addiction will end in loss, and gambling addiction leads to an uncontrolled way of playing because it only plays with ambition and also passion. Gambling addicts even though they get a small win but they are very happy, but they keep on playing which in the end they still lose.
and no one succeeds in playing gambling, there are only types of players who are full of consideration and also have their own principles who sometimes always get lucky. Because they play very carefully and also play when everything is fine, especially when they are in good condition and also calm.


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July 09, 2023, 02:21:22 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
If you say successful gambler, it means the gambler won huge and able to beat the house so I don't think it can be classify as an addict. Often, an addict is an uncontrollable gambler who face significant losses. But despite this, still continue playing without limit and usually doesn't care even the money that he/she spent is not meant for gambling.

On the other side, successful gambler had a good result in gambling. Therefore it's worth the time, effort and money spent since in the end this gambler is not a loser. Moreover, it can happen to win huge even the gambler is not frequently playing.

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July 09, 2023, 02:57:35 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

As far as I know, Addiction or compulsive behaviour occurs when you someone have loss total control over what you are doing.


Let me give you a crazy scenario: a man's car brake failed and he lost control of the car, so the car stubbled and crashed, and the man died. Also, there is another man who is very good at driving and playing stunts with his car; he drives so crazy, but any time he's about to hit something, he quickly holds his brakes.

These are two different people: one loses control, and the other acts as if he's lost control but knows what he's doing. A compulsive gambler can lose a very good opportunity just to gamble, but a responsible gambler can spend any amount of time at the casino, but once it's time for his main business, he leaves for it. Even a compulsive gambler might not be as successful as you think.

I used to tell the story of a man that I know who gambles a lot but still has a cool home. He's paying his bills and those of his family, and even if he steps out, you will not believe that he's a full-time gambler But some compulsive gamblers will really become problem for their family or the society.

So, in my opinion, a successful gambler is not measured by addiction, because even a very compulsive gambler might not think of anything reasonable to do with the money they are earning from their wins. Most gamblers who really make success in that scene are often referred to as responsible gamblers.




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July 09, 2023, 03:11:23 AM
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For you to be successful in what ever you do you have to devote your time in it and on this topic I feel you have to be deeply involved in gambling to be successful but not everyone who gambles do get too involved, like going crazy about it.
Some people can be gambling but they don't take it to heart like they don't put much effort, they just see it as something they do for fun and they gain so much more than those who take it very seriously. So I'd say not all successful gamblers are addict. Have seen someone who won a very huge amount of money but hardly come by to gamble, he just used the money to establish his business rather than coming to gamble again. He's a gambler who's successful but not an addicted one.











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July 09, 2023, 03:37:52 AM
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Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I disagree, so I don't consider successful gambler as addict. Maybe them spend some money obviously and in return they could become successful, like maybe in sports betting. But it doesn't mean that they are addicted. There could be individuals who knows the sport and then bet big and then win big as well, hence we can consider it successful gambler. However, they are not that addicted, they just know the game and analyze it to almost perfection and then bet huge money, high risk = high reward attitude.

 
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In my opinion, successful gamblers should be seen as addicts. If you don't stick to something,it won't come to you. Successful gamblers must have lost a lot of money and won a lot of money at the same time. Seen in my life That guy was totally addicted to gambling. He once gambled and won a lot of money and bought a bike overnight but after one day he sold the bike because he lost in gambling. But he didn't stop gambling. He continued to gamble. He even asked me borrowed money from. He is still gambling. He has now become the owner of a lot of wealth. He has now become a successful gambler. He has become a successful gambler by being completely addicted to gambling. Many people play as a hobby.
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Gamblers not only win the game with just 1-10 games it takes a lot of games before they manage to hit a very good amount of jackpot that's why could be classified as gambling addiction, the gambler can be just playing if they want or in their leisure time and sometimes on this they cannot fulfill their day that they cant gambling, also there's gambler willing to do things just to get satisfied even though financial status and assets will use just to play gambling. Gambling is all about risk if you cant manage to play gambling with a higher risk you cannot gain a large profit.

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Such a view is only held by someone who does not know this world.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Of course not, but successful gamblers only exist in two disciplines, sports betting and poker. There are no successful gamblers who play roulette. With this in mind, we can see cases of people who earn millions and are as addicted as those who earn millions in any other job, working hard.

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Yes, some people might think that gambling addicts are always people who fail and keep losing as well as frustrated, but behind all that there are also addicts who are considered successful because of luck and he learns from his many experiences playing every time on the gambling platform that makes him an expert at gambling. , but keep in mind that we only found that 0.001% of 100% of all gamblers worldwide are truly successful.

That's just my illustration, because not all gambling addicts fail, some are successful, but very few of what we see, we can even imagine, because gambling cannot be said to be successful for those who cannot control themselves in gambling. Success does not mean winning. a lot of money, but success in being able to control yourself when gambling is already considered a success.

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Yes, some people might think that gambling addicts are always people who fail and keep losing as well as frustrated, but behind all that there are also addicts who are considered successful because of luck and he learns from his many experiences playing every time on the gambling platform that makes him an expert at gambling. , but keep in mind that we only found that 0.001% of 100% of all gamblers worldwide are truly successful.

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That's true but almost all gambling addicts have had crashing edges and have lost a lot of valuable things compared to having the gains that made them successful.
I don't know what to expect, but if you want to be successful from gambling, it's not the right thing to do, so it's better to gamble as it should, namely to seek entertainment and have fun.
When a person has felt the loss of something valuable because of gambling, he can think that gambling is not to gain wealth.

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