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July 09, 2023, 08:39:35 PM
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Successful gamblers are those who are basically gamblers who deserve to be called gambling addicts. They are good at strategizing and able to increase their chances of winning with their skills, so I think they are gambling addicts. It is too difficult to find successful gamblers without addiction, but all successful gamblers are those who can be called gambling addicts.

But I don't know what the significance of this question is, even if they are addicted gamblers. Success at gambling is measured by how likely you are to win more than you lose, but success is sometimes also classified as your ability to control yourself and your desire for gambling.

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July 09, 2023, 08:43:17 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Definitely no.  To categorize if a gambler is an addict, we must verify whether the gambler has this uncontrolled urge to gamble.  That is the main sign of gambling addiction regardless whether they are a successful gamblers or not.

In addition, most successful gamblers are able to gain profit despite the known belief that the house always wins.  This simply means that these successful gamblers knows how to beat the house, and mostly have control over their gambling activities.  So my belief is that successful gamblers are far from being a gambling addicts.


Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Addiction is those who are into gambling and have a bad result from it but if you are winning and more serious about gambling, then we cannot say that as addiction. Many are trying their luck with gambling and once they are able to find it, they become more active until it became their daily activities. Maybe its a positive addiction since it brings money most of the time and if a gambler are more capable for this, then there should be no wrong and we should not call them addict.

Gambling addiction is not about having a bad result or good result.  It is about uncontrollable urge to gamble.  
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July 09, 2023, 08:47:58 PM
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Aren't there also gamblers who win large sums of money because they have experienced good luck in their lives, even those who rarely play are the ones who actually win large sums of money than those who gamble for a long time but never win big amount, there are those kinds of gamblers that I know in the news, like betting on the lottery, there are many winners who are really lucky.

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July 09, 2023, 09:55:38 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Addicted gamblers are considered weak people who can't control their emotions and it is hard for them to beat the urge inside them to play more. Successful gamblers are successful because of being lucky and proper money management, and controlling emotions but not for being addicted. Some people like to gamble more but they know there will be times they will win something while other days loss will eat the balance. Therefore, I don't think a successful gambler is an addicted gambler, many gamblers quit after reaching the target point, IMO.

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July 09, 2023, 10:01:28 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
There's a margin of gamblers in the competitive scene that could be considered addicts if you'll ask me. Some of them go on gambling sprees that takes them until sunrise, and only get away with such unhealthy behaviors because they are winning and they know how to play the game. These people, just as much as the guys who lost so much from gambling, need help and intervention so they can get rid of the constant need to gamble. This is for those that are successful in the competitive scene.

For casual gamblers who bagged massive wins in one of their gambling sessions, I don't think throwing the "addicted" title willy-nilly is fair now is it. Just cause you won something big doesn't mean you're addicted to gambling. There has to be something indicative of it, like him gambling for straight weeks on end without fail in hopes of getting that bag, or something else.
You've created a fascinating "us and them" dynamic by dividing gamblers into "competitive" and "casual" groups, haven't you? Aw, that's so cute and rural. The early risers who "happen to win" should get a vegan diet and round-the-clock personal training, right? Why stop there though? I say you treat them to a spa weekend as well! But hold on, those annoying bystanders caught up in the exciting casino spectacle who stumble upon their golden goose just to fry it for dinner are simply tourists. Absolutely no addiction. Just unfortunate bystanders who got extremely lucky. It's interesting that you single out the gambler while dismissing the industry's part in preying on people's insecurities. Are we supposed to spectate, cheering on their successes and laughing at their failures?

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July 10, 2023, 04:53:25 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
If you say successful gambler, it means the gambler won huge and able to beat the house so I don't think it can be classify as an addict. Often, an addict is an uncontrollable gambler who face significant losses. But despite this, still continue playing without limit and usually doesn't care even the money that he/she spent is not meant for gambling.

On the other side, successful gambler had a good result in gambling. Therefore it's worth the time, effort and money spent since in the end this gambler is not a loser. Moreover, it can happen to win huge even the gambler is not frequently playing.
Successful gamblers won't become like that if they don't spend so much time creating a strategy and finding more ways on how to improve their gameplay. Then will practice for longer hours. Lastly, they will now apply what they learn on the real game but it can still take lots of trials and errors before they master the game.

I guess it's safe to say that they are still an addict but not that worse as the other type of addicted gamblers who knows nothing but to lose more money. Like we said earlier a successful gambler can win in a casino often but I think this is not enough to say that they beat it. Not all gamblers are like them so the casino can still earn more than these successful gamblers.

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July 10, 2023, 05:41:38 PM
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I harbor considerable skepticism regarding this matter, as I have yet to encounter anyone who has achieved success solely through gambling. Except for those individuals mentioned in the article found on the website , whether their wealth is truly derived from gambling or not remains unclear. Who truly knows?

My mindset steadfastly believes that no one becomes wealthy solely through gambling. The accumulation of significant wealth in gambling cannot be separated from the role of luck and a dash of effort. My conviction regarding who qualifies as a genuinely successful individual lies with those who have exerted great effort in attaining their success. Thus far, my perspective on gambling remains somewhat ambiguous.
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July 10, 2023, 05:47:40 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
If he is successful in gambling he cannot be called an addict gambler. Because some consider gambling as their profession. If gambling is their daily job and they can make a living from it then I will definitely take it positively. Moreover, we can only identify gamblers who lose their control as gambling addicts. People who make their living through gambling can be called successful gamblers but should not be called addicted gamblers. Because every human profession should be respected. Being addicted to gambling implies a general negative attitude.

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July 10, 2023, 06:15:11 PM
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If he is successful in gambling he cannot be called an addict gambler. Because some consider gambling as their profession. If gambling is their daily job and they can make a living from it then I will definitely take it positively. Moreover, we can only identify gamblers who lose their control as gambling addicts. People who make their living through gambling can be called successful gamblers but should not be called addicted gamblers. Because every human profession should be respected. Being addicted to gambling implies a general negative attitude.
Yes, because professional gamblers know how to control their emotions over their needs. If he is a successful one it means he has the discipline in himself so that he will be never pass on his limits he knows his limits and the consequences. He just need to focus in the game , if he lose he knows when to stop and when to play again because if that his profession or we called him successful gambler it means he know how not to fall into addiction.
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July 10, 2023, 07:43:35 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
i think it can be considered yes and can be no. depending on how the person does the gambling. someone who does gambling but can still think clearly to control his desire to gamble and risk his wealth in my opinion cannot be considered as an addict.
i think the word "addict" has a negative meaning and i think it's only attached to someone who can't resist the psychological urge to continue gambling and risk everything he has without considering the loss or negative impact on himself.
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July 10, 2023, 08:38:55 PM
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Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

I don't personally think we can find one. I mean, are there really a successful gambler? Not unless if they become a professional in gambling field, like those people who were paid to compete in a poker tournament, or a personal who just built his own successful gambling business. But a gambler who simply just put a massive amount of bets in the casino, I don't think they'll succeed, because they'll eventually run out of money regardless of how much winning they profited in day 1 or 2.
I can say a successful gambler is a person who win a massive amount of money with his bets and decided to build his own business. An addict is a person who chooses to continue gambling. Therefore, my answer to your million dollar question is NO.

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July 10, 2023, 08:51:40 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Yes, I classify a successful gambler as an addict only if they gamble excessively, which is quite rare because as far as I know if you gamble frequently your chances of losing are very high So yeah.

Any person engaging in the same activity multiple times a day could be addicted, regardless of whether they are successful or not in it.
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July 10, 2023, 09:15:41 PM
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Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

I don't personally think we can find one. I mean, are there really a successful gambler? Not unless if they become a professional in gambling field, like those people who were paid to compete in a poker tournament, or a personal who just built his own successful gambling business. But a gambler who simply just put a massive amount of bets in the casino, I don't think they'll succeed, because they'll eventually run out of money regardless of how much winning they profited in day 1 or 2.
I can say a successful gambler is a person who win a massive amount of money with his bets and decided to build his own business. An addict is a person who chooses to continue gambling. Therefore, my answer to your million dollar question is NO.
I have to agree with the last part of your opinion, the successful gamblers know when to quit and how to use gambling wins for higher life standards. Addicted gamblers keep continue to gamble until they lose everything they have but it becomes too late. House edge and general RTP make it impossible to be lucky in the long run, I doubt more than 3% of the gamblers call themselves successful gamblers. That is very low percentage compared other industries but workaholics are not gambler for obvious reasons.

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Gambling isn't an occupation and I don't think that there anyone who is a successful gambler,if he doesn't use his gambling wins to invest on assets and also limit his gambling activities. If a gambler wins big today, tomorrow it is gone and he is broke again. You can never win the house edge and that is why you wouldn't be successful. A successful gambler is a professional and don't also forget that gambling is based on luck and not skill. Addiction is something that makes a gambler wants to be on his game to chase his wins or when one get carried away easily with his gambling activities. Don't forget that you loss more than you gain,can this be called success.

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Maybe it's not the case in here...
Different people gamble for different reasons, with different objectives too.. but the very fact that some gamblers win big doesn't guarantee Thier addiction to the game.
You need to recall that a little quotient from the total statistics of gamblers don't even have a broad gambling experience, talk more of getting addicted; what are the possibilities of getting addicted to something you barely have a knowledge about? Some of them just placed a one-day bet and it cut... nothing more. So I'll disagree to that.

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July 10, 2023, 10:19:00 PM
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I would never tell a person who is addicted to someone who is very successful in gambling, obviously a person who is successful in gambling has to be playing a lot, or at least spend a lot of time gambling, of course a person Let it be like this, so I imagine that it is a lot of money, because being like this with Enough time to play requires a lot of money, and that is something to recognize, because a person can really want to play all the time, but his money is what It limits it, but rather if I run into a person like that, I would ask for advice because I would feel admiration.

If we start to see all the things that can happen with respect to what they think of the players, it is something that does not make much sense, I am a person who does not interest me or care what they think of me , unless they tell me up front, but if I have fun in a casino , I am the one who does it, but no one else, and if I am happy and successful that way , what does the rest matter?

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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Others can view it that way, but there's a clear difference between them because successful gamblers gamble for a living and they make the best decision possible even when they're in a losing situation.

While gambling addicts are the type that would keep on gambling until they lose all of their money. They also gamble to win big, but they don't know when they should stop. They don't know how to accept losses and would chase their losses continuously.

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Gambling isn't an occupation and I don't think that there anyone who is a successful gambler,if he doesn't use his gambling wins to invest on assets and also limit his gambling activities. If a gambler wins big today, tomorrow it is gone and he is broke again. You can never win the house edge and that is why you wouldn't be successful. A successful gambler is a professional and don't also forget that gambling is based on luck and not skill. Addiction is something that makes a gambler wants to be on his game to chase his wins or when one get carried away easily with his gambling activities. Don't forget that you loss more than you gain,can this be called success.
We are on the path on making sure we have a good life, although we face  challenges in life that shows that we're making progress. Addiction is widespread in space; it is a slow process that absorbs the victim's circulation. We have successful gamblers in the system, and when compared to traders, those who are pro traders, the same thing applies to gamblers. Gambling is not an occupation, nor is it a stable source of several revenue streams. Perhaps we can utilize the profits from gambling to start other businesses such that will help us meet the demands we have.

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July 11, 2023, 02:51:49 AM
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Others can view it that way, but there's a clear difference between them because successful gamblers gamble for a living and they make the best decision possible even when they're in a losing situation.

While gambling addicts are the type that would keep on gambling until they lose all of their money. They also gamble to win big, but they don't know when they should stop. They don't know how to accept losses and would chase their losses continuously.
Outside of gambling, successful gamblers have built business settings, and they make essential choices before implementing any technique in the system. Successful gamblers desire to be lucrative gamblers; it is necessary that we choose the path to which we would like to participate. Gambling addicts are the most detrimental category of people; they don't think about anything but themselves, and they end up playing with their expected budgetary resources, which leads to debt when their predictions goes a wrong direction and they posses hope in all proceeds.

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July 11, 2023, 03:44:36 AM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I have been seeing a lot of posts about personal gambling addiction among forum members lately and the trend is slightly worrying to me... Why is there such a sudden spike in gambling addicts?

Anyone who has a problem with gambling, i.e. gambling addicts, should not be trying to place their addiction into a better light by finding a positive side about it. That is not a good way to deal with any kind of addiction.

Successful gamblers are just lucky. Addiction itself is a disease of the mind and does not necessarily present itself in every gambler. And it is not something which should be underestimated or ignored. If you feel you have a problem then you need to address it because it will become a much bigger issue, 100% of the time, if you simply decide to leave it alone.

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