Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[Aikidoka]

That is if we are truly aware of the boundaries we make. But the truth is many of us still cross that line and instead decide to gamble and say that this is the last time we gamble and we won't be back for a few more days. I also often cross my limits in gambling, but that doesn't make me regret it too much; I just try to live it. But other days, I try to limit and not break it.

Crossing boundaries can happen sometimes when you're in a tough spot and seeking more bets. I don't blame anyone who wants to cross those boundaries but it's important to ensure that you won't regret it later, at the very least. To be honest, I rarely exceed my budget limits except when I really want to bet on a single game after using up all the money I set aside for gambling in a given week. But when this happens I tell myself "Next week, I should gamble less and deduct the excess amount I went over the limit from this current week".

[Frankolala]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

I think there is a thin line between an addict against a successful gambler.

A successful gambler, like a professional player, can be observed that he is doing what he is being offered to. Basically, it is his job to gamble and to play various card games in order to entertain himself and the viewers. In comparison, gambling addicts can be categorized into two (2), namely the addicts who do it for fun; and the ones who do it for money.

Though they may be seen as different, I sometimes find it confusing on distinguishing the two given the nature of gambling. Maybe these professional players are being paid by advertising agencies, etc. as another stream of income.

Which is why using money as a criteria to try to separate the addicted from those which are not addicted is not such a good idea, we simply need to take a look at their behaviors to see if they are showing signs of addiction, and someone which gambles all the time to the detriment of their health and personal relationships is clearly showing signs they are addicted to gambling, and regardless of the results they may be obtaining it is clear they have a problem which needs to be taken care before it is too late.

when you win always, no one will see u as an addicted gambler, because you're making money from it. Gamble is just a lucky play, if you're lucky oh win always. But once you always lose, the society will tag u failure and an addict.

Inspite of everything, we must all bet responsibly and know when to stop.

Exactly, when you are winning and there is money all over you people wouldn't see you as an addict,it is only the ones that are always losing that will become an addict, if they allow themselves to be controlled by their emotions.

A successful gambler don't think of chasing his wins instead he gambles for fun and before you know it he will hit the jackpot unexpectedly. I don't want to go beyond my gambling limit so that I don't fall into addiction. When you take the games easy and play with free mind before you know it,you will win.

[slapper]

Of course, a successful gambler has more abilities than the average gambler because they can manage themselves so they don't cross their limits. That is what distinguishes them from most gamblers so they can succeed in gambling games. They have more experience than other gamblers and also have abilities above other gamblers so that they can survive and even become successful gamblers. But those classified as successful gamblers will not call themselves successful gamblers because they do not like being called by that title. They prefer to be called casual gamblers and feel it is better to hide their skills so they are not arrogant.

That's exactly the reason why they become successful in gambling. These gamblers already made a name and won a notable amount several times to the point it gave them the opportunity to establish the things they want to accomplish. I can't really label them as addicts because there's a lot difference from an addict who can't control his urges and continues to gamble excessively and impulsively to a person who is wise and great from doing his craft. Being a gambler requires skills and discipline, and most of the time, gambling addicts do not possess the latter.

I agree with you that most of these successful gamblers are humble enough to live a quiet life and not boast around because they don't have to, to begin with. They know it to themselves that they have accomplished enough and that's what matters to them, not what other people will say. And I think gamblers should exhibit more of this attitude to avoid conflicts and to avoid overthinking.

The success of professional gamblers, as you've noted, hinges upon discipline and skill. It's a distinct realm, far removed from the stereotypical, addictive, impulsive gambling. Yet, one can't ignore the enviable allure that clouds this distinction. Gambling, in its essence, is a game of chance. Even with discipline, it's inherently unpredictable and hinges significantly on randomness.

It's critical to assert that while these successful gamblers have crafted an image of restraint and quiet achievement, the foundation remains precarious. Their humility doesn't entirely negate the inherent risks in their vocation. Recognizing this is not overthinking, rather an acknowledgment of the unstable nature of their craft.

[dunfida]

Of course, a successful gambler has more abilities than the average gambler because they can manage themselves so they don't cross their limits. That is what distinguishes them from most gamblers so they can succeed in gambling games. They have more experience than other gamblers and also have abilities above other gamblers so that they can survive and even become successful gamblers. But those classified as successful gamblers will not call themselves successful gamblers because they do not like being called by that title. They prefer to be called casual gamblers and feel it is better to hide their skills so they are not arrogant.

That's exactly the reason why they become successful in gambling. These gamblers already made a name and won a notable amount several times to the point it gave them the opportunity to establish the things they want to accomplish. I can't really label them as addicts because there's a lot difference from an addict who can't control his urges and continues to gamble excessively and impulsively to a person who is wise and great from doing his craft. Being a gambler requires skills and discipline, and most of the time, gambling addicts do not possess the latter.

I agree with you that most of these successful gamblers are humble enough to live a quiet life and not boast around because they don't have to, to begin with. They know it to themselves that they have accomplished enough and that's what matters to them, not what other people will say. And I think gamblers should exhibit more of this attitude to avoid conflicts and to avoid overthinking.

The success of professional gamblers, as you've noted, hinges upon discipline and skill. It's a distinct realm, far removed from the stereotypical, addictive, impulsive gambling. Yet, one can't ignore the enviable allure that clouds this distinction. Gambling, in its essence, is a game of chance. Even with discipline, it's inherently unpredictable and hinges significantly on randomness.

It's critical to assert that while these successful gamblers have crafted an image of restraint and quiet achievement, the foundation remains precarious. Their humility doesn't entirely negate the inherent risks in their vocation. Recognizing this is not overthinking, rather an acknowledgment of the unstable nature of their craft.

Even on the time that you havent been able to play or engage out with gambling then it is really that impossible that you cant really be able to picture out on what are the potential risks when it comes to gambling.

Using up your own  common sense then you would really be definitely be thinking up on theres a chance that you would really be able to those have moments on which you cant really be able to resist when it comes
to those impulsive actions which you could possibly make or be done on midway on which it might really be that showing that you are really that lost off track when it comes on what are the things that should
really be done on the right way. Successful gamblers? Only a few would really be able to reach out this kind of situation on which we do know that most of them would really be that
be ending up on getting wrecked and having no money at all in the end of the day.

[Weawant]

A successful gambler don't think of chasing his wins instead he gambles for fun and before you know it he will hit the jackpot unexpectedly. I don't want to go beyond my gambling limit so that I don't fall into addiction. When you take the games easy and play with free mind before you know it,you will win.

Losing can lead to gambling addiction so does winning can also do, when a gambler keeps winning he might begin to think that he's invincible and continue to play on several occasions. Overall he'll be winning but he doesn't know he's getting addicted to gambling slowly.

When he does realize that will be when he finally lost, instead of backing out, he'll keep playing thinking that was just a one time thing until the losses keep happening and then he becomes obsessed with trying to win back him money since he isn't used to feeling like a loser.

That's how addicts are borned, it doesn't matter if you're winning or losing, always make sure you're in control of the decision you make when gambling and it isn't your feelings making the decision for you or you might end up with nothing instead of going how with the wins.

[serjent05]

A successful gambler don't think of chasing his wins instead he gambles for fun and before you know it he will hit the jackpot unexpectedly. I don't want to go beyond my gambling limit so that I don't fall into addiction. When you take the games easy and play with free mind before you know it,you will win.

Losing can lead to gambling addiction so does winning can also do, when a gambler keeps winning he might begin to think that he's invincible and continue to play on several occasions. Overall he'll be winning but he doesn't know he's getting addicted to gambling slowly.

Every action that includes gambling may result in gambling addiction.  So whether a person win or lose, see it as entertainment or a source of income, their engagement in gambling may cause them to get addicted to it. If we read several threads and discussion in this forum and even in the internet, for a person to trigger gambling addiction, it only needs a few thing, engage in gambling and not moderate oneself.

When he does realize that will be when he finally lost, instead of backing out, he'll keep playing thinking that was just a one time thing until the losses keep happening and then he becomes obsessed with trying to win back him money since he isn't used to feeling like a loser.

This is true for those who don't have self control and often get triggered resulting to chasing losses.  But this is false to people who developed self-control and gambling moderation.

That's how addicts are borned, it doesn't matter if you're winning or losing, always make sure you're in control of the decision you make when gambling and it isn't your feelings making the decision for you or you might end up with nothing instead of going how with the wins.

According to some article gambling addicts are born because they have their dopamine being actively secreted with higher volume in each session to meet the satisfaction created in the previous gambling activity.

[Davidvictorson]

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

The answer you get to the question depends on who you are asking. A therapist would tell you that in all their years of practice successful gamblers as long as they are humans and not AI can be addicted to anything and gambling is not excluded from the list. I don't look as successful gamblers any different.

Another way is answer the question to know if successful gamblers are seen as addicts is to look at how much of their time they spend gambling, what is a day in their lives like? The responses to these questions will determine my answer.

[makishart]

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

I do agree with it. People with gambling disorder will not be able to control their emotion. They gonna still wildly betting without even trying to decrease the risk. That's why people who wanna to recover the loss funds will be going even crazy compared with people who knew about the risk in gambling. Their emotions won't affect people who can become a successful gambler. IMO, a successful gambler is someone who could win the jackpot.
The jackpot has become the main aim for people to gambling their money and become a successful gambler. A successful gambler is not being seen as an addicted gambler who lose their mind when they come in betting. Someone who is successful at gambling knows how to control their urges. Controlling his emotion to gambling and more.

[Iroh]

when you win always, no one will see u as an addicted gambler, because you're making money from it. Gamble is just a lucky play, if you're lucky oh win always. But once you always lose, the society will tag u failure and an addict.

Inspite of everything, we must all bet responsibly and know when to stop.

That’s why I don’t see success in gambling and addiction together. People would not see you as a gambling addict if you always win no mater how many times you come in to play. You’re not an addict in their eyes, you’re a winner. Obviously, no one likes a failure and once a gambler loses continuously and continues to come in to play with the almost pitiful dream of winning it big and covering all his losses suffered, then people, who make up the society would tag you to be an addict.
Betting responsibly is something a lot of people, addicts and non addicts alike forget to do.

[libert19]

Addiction to anything is no good, and you are talking about gambling here, which in itself is kind of derogative.

[swogerino]

Addiction to anything is no good, and you are talking about gambling here, which in itself is kind of derogative.

You cannot be a successful gambler if you are not addicted.This has many meanings as a sentence but what I want to point out is yes gambling is negative in itself as most of the times leads people to lose money while it takes much time and much gambling in order to achieve a huge hit,kinda like x10.000 to x300.000 your bet which I consider great wins.You cannot achieve these if you are not addicted and you only play like once in a while,it can happen to win even playing that little however these cases can be counted with the fingers of one hand.So overall you need to be addicted in order to achieve one of those huge wins which would make you successful despite that being only momentary as you will most probably lose it all again.

[JeffBrad12]

Addiction to anything is no good, and you are talking about gambling here, which in itself is kind of derogative.

You cannot be a successful gambler if you are not addicted.This has many meanings as a sentence but what I want to point out is yes gambling is negative in itself as most of the times leads people to lose money while it takes much time and much gambling in order to achieve a huge hit,kinda like x10.000 to x300.000 your bet which I consider great wins.You cannot achieve these if you are not addicted and you only play like once in a while,it can happen to win even playing that little however these cases can be counted with the fingers of one hand.So overall you need to be addicted in order to achieve one of those huge wins which would make you successful despite that being only momentary as you will most probably lose it all again.

True, to be honest if anyone may have different perspective regarding meaning of addiction. I will try to mention something here.

A diagnosis of gambling disorder requires at least four of the following during the past year:

Need to gamble with increasing amounts to achieve the desired excitement.
Restless or irritable when trying to cut down or stop gambling.
Repeated unsuccessful efforts to control, cut back on or stop gambling.
Frequent thoughts about gambling (such as reliving past gambling or planning future gambling).
Often gambling when feeling distressed.
After losing money gambling, often returning to get even. (This is referred to as "chasing" one's losses.)
Lying to hide gambling activity.
Risking or losing a close relationship, a job, or a school or job opportunity because of gambling.
Relying on others to help with money problems caused by gambling

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gambling-disorder/what-is-gambling-disorder

A successful gamblers will be always doing so many bets in his life. It's very rare to see that someone with a few bets can win the jackpot. It's almost impossible thing to happen. The successful gamblers can be called as being addicted to the gamblers as they are seeing something big from what they have gambled. The fact that if successful gambler is someone who has been also dedicating his life for gambling purpose. It's almost impossible to call successful gambler as a non addicted gamblers.

[Renampun]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

we can easily identify which ones are gambling addicts and which ones are not gambling addicts doing the activities they do both in social life or when gambling. a successful gambler is definitely not a random person, he has good control over himself and never causes himself to get into trouble because of gambling and this is what distinguishes successful gamblers from gambling addicts.

people who do not know the time - reckless when gambling - often in debt for gambling must not be someone who is successful in gambling, they are a type of gambling addict.

[ethereumhunter]

That is if we are truly aware of the boundaries we make. But the truth is many of us still cross that line and instead decide to gamble and say that this is the last time we gamble and we won't be back for a few more days. I also often cross my limits in gambling, but that doesn't make me regret it too much; I just try to live it. But other days, I try to limit and not break it.

Crossing boundaries can happen sometimes when you're in a tough spot and seeking more bets. I don't blame anyone who wants to cross those boundaries but it's important to ensure that you won't regret it later, at the very least. To be honest, I rarely exceed my budget limits except when I really want to bet on a single game after using up all the money I set aside for gambling in a given week. But when this happens I tell myself "Next week, I should gamble less and deduct the excess amount I went over the limit from this current week".

Therefore, we really have to be able to limit ourselves to gambling so we don't spend a lot of money that will make us regret that we used a lot of money. By staying within these limits, we can measure our ability to gamble and only bet according to the money we can afford. And I also try not to go beyond my ability to gamble so that if I deposit some money to gamble, that is a budget I can afford. But a gambling professional must have more things different from those of us who are only small gamblers so that they really control themselves while playing gambling.

[piebeyb]

Addiction to anything is no good, and you are talking about gambling here, which in itself is kind of derogative.

You cannot be a successful gambler if you are not addicted.This has many meanings as a sentence but what I want to point out is yes gambling is negative in itself as most of the times leads people to lose money while it takes much time and much gambling in order to achieve a huge hit,kinda like x10.000 to x300.000 your bet which I consider great wins.You cannot achieve these if you are not addicted and you only play like once in a while,it can happen to win even playing that little however these cases can be counted with the fingers of one hand.So overall you need to be addicted in order to achieve one of those huge wins which would make you successful despite that being only momentary as you will most probably lose it all again.

Yes, but the fact is that most of the addicts that we see before getting a big win, usually they first fall into poverty, they won't even get that big win, so that's the toughness of being an addict because it's not as easy as one might imagine, that they keep hoping that in the last game they will get a big win. or the jackpot but in the end losing frustrates them.

For me there is a sports betting addict who might find a win because he will learn from his experience, but it's different from a gambling addict who plays casino games because it's difficult to beat the house, it's impossible for the house to give big wins to its users. they are more concerned with getting money from their users 

[Taskford]

Addiction to anything is no good, and you are talking about gambling here, which in itself is kind of derogative.

You cannot be a successful gambler if you are not addicted.This has many meanings as a sentence but what I want to point out is yes gambling is negative in itself as most of the times leads people to lose money while it takes much time and much gambling in order to achieve a huge hit,kinda like x10.000 to x300.000 your bet which I consider great wins.You cannot achieve these if you are not addicted and you only play like once in a while,it can happen to win even playing that little however these cases can be counted with the fingers of one hand.So overall you need to be addicted in order to achieve one of those huge wins which would make you successful despite that being only momentary as you will most probably lose it all again.

Somehow this is the real case here since if we look back the activities they participated with for sure they go thru many troubles and a lot of money has been lost on earliest of their career. If they never play to much well maybe we cannot see those successful gamblers succeed on their careers and we will never see some of them became famous since for sure they might quit because they are in control then also cannot afford to lose huge if they discipline their selves toward gambling.

[carlisle1]

Addiction to anything is no good, and you are talking about gambling here, which in itself is kind of derogative.

You cannot be a successful gambler if you are not addicted.This has many meanings as a sentence but what I want to point out is yes gambling is negative in itself as most of the times leads people to lose money while it takes much time and much gambling in order to achieve a huge hit,kinda like x10.000 to x300.000 your bet which I consider great wins.You cannot achieve these if you are not addicted and you only play like once in a while,it can happen to win even playing that little however these cases can be counted with the fingers of one hand.So overall you need to be addicted in order to achieve one of those huge wins which would make you successful despite that being only momentary as you will most probably lose it all again.

Somehow this is the real case here since if we look back the activities they participated with for sure they go thru many troubles and a lot of money has been lost on earliest of their career. If they never play to much well maybe we cannot see those successful gamblers succeed on their careers and we will never see some of them became famous since for sure they might quit because they are in control then also cannot afford to lose huge if they discipline their selves toward gambling.

Exactly, it's true that before you can achieve you needed to spend more time and money to execute whatever strategy you have
to win decently, only a lucky gambler can hit a jackpot in a onetime shot.

And for sure, it's not always or not a usual thing that we will see inside gambling house, but those successful gamblers, they spent
money and not just money, but a decent amount of money to keep pushing.

With the knowledge that they've learned and the control that they've possessed, now they are enjoying the benefits.

[Dzwaafu11]

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

No. If we were to label someone who is successful at gambling as an addict, I don't think it would make sense because I consider winning at games to be chance and someone can win at any moment without even having expectations sometimes. For this reason, I said NO. You can see, however, that we cannot label this person as an addict because someone who is new to gambling can get money that someone who has spent several weeks gaming did not get.

You cannot be a successful gambler if you are not addicted.

I don't think these have anything to do with addiction; someone can be a successful gambler without addiction, and it is not necessary to place bets frequently before winning a significant sum of money. I think someone can occasionally place bets and win big money without becoming addicted because I think there are successful gamblers who are not addicts. Those who use gambling as a regular activity or as a means of income are at danger of developing a gambling addiction.

[letteredhub]

Addiction to anything is no good, and you are talking about gambling here, which in itself is kind of derogative.

You cannot be a successful gambler if you are not addicted.

if addiction was a requisite to being a successful gambler then all gamblers would have been competing among themselves to be more addictive than the next guy!  . If I could achieve success in gambling by becoming addictive to it it then mean that all the negatives painted about addiction to gambling in the gambling discussion board are just out of ignorance. Which am not sure it is.

If addiction is described to be an attitude that can ruin a gambler's financial strength then what sort of success can a gambler possibly achieve from it?  i.e, a gambling addict can win seven figures this hour and lose it all the next day due to addiction. Is that what we can describe as success?   

[Silberman]

Which is why using money as a criteria to try to separate the addicted from those which are not addicted is not such a good idea, we simply need to take a look at their behaviors to see if they are showing signs of addiction, and someone which gambles all the time to the detriment of their health and personal relationships is clearly showing signs they are addicted to gambling, and regardless of the results they may be obtaining it is clear they have a problem which needs to be taken care before it is too late.

when you win always, no one will see u as an addicted gambler, because you're making money from it. Gamble is just a lucky play, if you're lucky oh win always. But once you always lose, the society will tag u failure and an addict.

Inspite of everything, we must all bet responsibly and know when to stop.

And personally I think this is a bad idea even if know you are right and that is the way society judges gamblers, however we cannot judge everything in terms of money, for example there are many gamers which earned a lot of money from playing video games which have eventually revealed they were addicted to video games and they had to stay away from them for some time to recover, so we have people that despite making money eventually admitted they had issues controlling their impulses, and I do not see why gambling should be viewed any differently.