Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[nullama]

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I do not think that successful gamblers can be classified as gambler addicts. A successful gambler won't play excessive gambling. He won't take more than the predefined risk and won't chase losses.

A gambling addict is a person who has all these habits of gambling with emotions and having no money management. So such a gambler who is addicted to gambling can never be a successful one but I would say they are the unsuccessful gamblers who lose more money than winning.

The only difference between a successful gambler and an unsuccessful gambler is basically luck.

The vast majority of people will end up losing money in the casino or similar games. That's by design.

From time to time, someone that is skilled at a game, maximizing their chances to win (still at lower odds compared to the casino) might end up winning. And in that rare case casinos will be quick to give free drinks and food to keep them playing so that they give that money back eventually.

[topbitcoin]

Before we get into this discussion, we have to sort out the definition of success.
Well I have a question to the OP, give us a little idea of ​​what a successful gambler looks like. whether he is a professional gambler, or a gambler who always wins every bet. for me this is a little biased, because the key to the word "success" is that someone achieves something with what he does. whether it's a successful businessman, a successful crypto trader, and so on. so I'm a little confused by what OP said in this thread, even a little contradictory to gambling, because the most common risk in gambling is losing.

But if the OP changes the question, can professional gamblers be seen as addicts. it seems, the title of this thread is more ideal for me. because, referring to what the OP said, a professional gambler doesn't just invest money. they also invest time, energy, and even devote all the knowledge they have and are equipped with broad insights. then, are they potentially addicted. maybe, because all things do not rule out the possibility. but at least, they are experts when it comes to gambling.

That's right, I was confused before about what this discussion is about, which makes it have many perspectives that are very biased with the meaning of success itself, if you think that gambling behavior and success cannot get a correlation that makes sense in the context of business, the question is quite ambiguous.

I really question too that success in this case, because I also have never found anyone who is successful from gambling, even though he can get big wins for example, but he will play it back to gambling, with the meaning of his success to earn income from gambling inconsistent Meanwhile, if we compare it to other professions, even though it is quite difficult, such as traders, they can consistently make profits and we can see that their financial stability is going well.

[Jody.Drummer]

That's right, I was confused before about what this discussion is about, which makes it have many perspectives that are very biased with the meaning of success itself, if you think that gambling behavior and success cannot get a correlation that makes sense in the context of business, the question is quite ambiguous.

I really question too that success in this case, because I also have never found anyone who is successful from gambling, even though he can get big wins for example, but he will play it back to gambling, with the meaning of his success to earn income from gambling inconsistent Meanwhile, if we compare it to other professions, even though it is quite difficult, such as traders, they can consistently make profits and we can see that their financial stability is going well.

Well that's right, the word success in gambling I think is nonsense. The principle in gambling is to prioritize luck and how can someone who gets lucky in gambling be said to be a successful person. Someone who manages to win at gambling means that luck is on their side and it is only temporary. My question is, is there a gambler who supports his family from his success in gambling, of course not. Because gambling is an action that is done for entertainment only and as a prize if they are lucky then they will get a win. Well, on the other hand, maybe some of them think that when they succeed in achieving something in gambling, such as winning, it is a success. But basically, we still can't categorize a win as success, because this is a gamble, as you said, there is no consistent word in it, and that means that all wins in gambling are just luck.

[Josefjix]

I think it depends on how you look at it or interpret the word addict because it's almost undeniable that there are even some positive things even after labeled as an addict. But in most situations, addicts are synonymous with crackheads or someone who does things excessively because they already lost total control over themselves, cannot think clearly and the ability to weigh things correctly as well is already lost.

Addiction is a terrible thing, and we should avoid it by all means. Addicts are willing to go to any length to gamble on games, even if it means selling their valuables in order to obtain money to place wagers. Furthermore, an addicted gambler will not be profitable since he has no objectives, no risk management, and zero principles, only wagering without an alternative strategy. Although they are financial gamblers, successful gamblers cannot be regarded as addicted. They forecast games and provide profitable outcomes. It is imperative that we understand how to categorize these sets.

[Weawant]

Usually, we see gambling addicts as a failure but with a definition of a successful addict, it doesn't sound like a complete failure at all. A gambler who found his craft or someone who has found what he is good at is not a failure. As long as he can make money out of it, I guess he can live off it and be proud of it.

I wonder if there really is a successful gambling addict though because usually, they are not just addicted to gambling but also to alcohol and drugs.

We associated addict with failure and that's because negative energy has more harm to do than positive. We have successful people's that are addicted to what they do and sleeps in the office everyday. We can have a successful gambler that's an addict and yet he'll still be winning.

There's always an odds one among and that's why we use majority because majority of addicts are failures but there's a slight chance we'll find a successful person among the addicts. There are people that have been able to channel their addiction energy from negative to positive.

Addiction has its symptoms and if a successful gambler is  always over gambling and exceeding his limits he's addicted and needs help before he destroy the whole net worth he has some day because of a decision he'll make that will be influenced by his addiction problem.

[ethereumhunter]

I think it depends on how you look at it or interpret the word addict because it's almost undeniable that there are even some positive things even after labeled as an addict. But in most situations, addicts are synonymous with crackheads or someone who does things excessively because they already lost total control over themselves, cannot think clearly and the ability to weigh things correctly as well is already lost.

Addiction is a terrible thing, and we should avoid it by all means. Addicts are willing to go to any length to gamble on games, even if it means selling their valuables in order to obtain money to place wagers. Furthermore, an addicted gambler will not be profitable since he has no objectives, no risk management, and zero principles, only wagering without an alternative strategy. Although they are financial gamblers, successful gamblers cannot be regarded as addicted. They forecast games and provide profitable outcomes. It is imperative that we understand how to categorize these sets.

And what is important is that successful gamblers can manage their time to gamble and not experience addiction like other gamblers. Successful gamblers can also be wise when they may have been gambling for a long time and need to stop immediately so they can decide to stop gambling. But that won't happen to gambling addicts, who just want to continue gambling and don't know when to stop. And as long as he still has a balance in his gambling account, he can just keep playing unless he immediately spends his money on gambling. But it will never be easy to become a successful gambler because it has to do with all kinds of things needed to become a successful gambler, such as good self-control, managing money and time to gamble, and staying calm in all situations.

[topbitcoin]

That's right, I was confused before about what this discussion is about, which makes it have many perspectives that are very biased with the meaning of success itself, if you think that gambling behavior and success cannot get a correlation that makes sense in the context of business, the question is quite ambiguous.

I really question too that success in this case, because I also have never found anyone who is successful from gambling, even though he can get big wins for example, but he will play it back to gambling, with the meaning of his success to earn income from gambling inconsistent Meanwhile, if we compare it to other professions, even though it is quite difficult, such as traders, they can consistently make profits and we can see that their financial stability is going well.

Well that's right, the word success in gambling I think is nonsense. The principle in gambling is to prioritize luck and how can someone who gets lucky in gambling be said to be a successful person. Someone who manages to win at gambling means that luck is on their side and it is only temporary. My question is, is there a gambler who supports his family from his success in gambling, of course not. Because gambling is an action that is done for entertainment only and as a prize if they are lucky then they will get a win. Well, on the other hand, maybe some of them think that when they succeed in achieving something in gambling, such as winning, it is a success. But basically, we still can't categorize a win as success, because this is a gamble, as you said, there is no consistent word in it, and that means that all wins in gambling are just luck.

Yes, maybe you can mean that success is when he really gets a big win, that can be assumed in the context of gambling, but maybe success in this context cannot be compared to success in the economic world in general.
I don't know if this feels ambiguous and we don't know where the context that the OP is actually pointing is going.

I think it depends on how you look at it or interpret the word addict because it's almost undeniable that there are even some positive things even after labeled as an addict. But in most situations, addicts are synonymous with crackheads or someone who does things excessively because they already lost total control over themselves, cannot think clearly and the ability to weigh things correctly as well is already lost.

Addiction is a terrible thing, and we should avoid it by all means. Addicts are willing to go to any length to gamble on games, even if it means selling their valuables in order to obtain money to place wagers. Furthermore, an addicted gambler will not be profitable since he has no objectives, no risk management, and zero principles, only wagering without an alternative strategy. Although they are financial gamblers, successful gamblers cannot be regarded as addicted. They forecast games and provide profitable outcomes. It is imperative that we understand how to categorize these sets.

But saying that what is a "successful gambler" we really don't understand it properly, and this widens without direction, whether it's an addict or not, but related to gambling, it will be very difficult for us to categorize what a successful gambler looks like, anyway in terms of success as conveyed by Joddy, there are many offenses about this, even people who are said to be legendary gamblers in terms of predicting their accuracy are still in doubt.

[coinerer]

If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.

successful gamblers not gamble with panic they always control themself and gamble with patients. And that's why they win most of the time in gambling without losing. this is the best strategy to not panic gamble and be patient to take advantage of occasional opportunities and earn high profits. And always gambling with a limit budget it will reduce the chances of big losing. And unless the loss is big, a gambler can easily control himself without panicking. So it is better to adopt this strategy

[rojan]

If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.

successful gamblers not gamble with panic they always control themself and gamble with patients. And that's why they win most of the time in gambling without losing. this is the best strategy to not panic gamble and be patient to take advantage of occasional opportunities and earn high profits. And always gambling with a limit budget it will reduce the chances of big losing. And unless the loss is big, a gambler can easily control himself without panicking. So it is better to adopt this strategy

Controlling patience while gambling is a very difficult thing which not everyone can do. But I think if someone starts gambling with panic during gambling then he will never win in gambling. There are some strategies while gambling which can be used to win.  It may be different if someone starts gambling in a new state. I think gambling is a fun game but not everyone likes it because there is a deadly addiction in gambling which can lead to destruction.

[GigaBit]

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I do not think that successful gamblers can be classified as gambler addicts. A successful gambler won't play excessive gambling. He won't take more than the predefined risk and won't chase losses.

A gambling addict is a person who has all these habits of gambling with emotions and having no money management. So such a gambler who is addicted to gambling can never be a successful one but I would say they are the unsuccessful gamblers who lose more money than winning.

The only difference between a successful gambler and an unsuccessful gambler is basically luck.

It is true that the difference between successful and unsuccessful gamblers is luck. But generally we mean successful gamblers who are experienced in gambling and those who win more are basically successful gamblers. Many people only try to identify successful gamblers with high winnings. But the main thing is that those who manage gambling with experience and get more winnings can be successful gamblers. Even I cannot call them addicted. Because they enjoy gambling with their intellectual power. If the gambler does not show any abnormal behavior then he cannot be called addicted. Those who win consistently have no chance of being called addicted gamblers.

[Docnaster]

If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.

successful gamblers not gamble with panic they always control themself and gamble with patients. And that's why they win most of the time in gambling without losing. this is the best strategy to not panic gamble and be patient to take advantage of occasional opportunities and earn high profits. And always gambling with a limit budget it will reduce the chances of big losing. And unless the loss is big, a gambler can easily control himself without panicking. So it is better to adopt this strategy

There is a very big difference between being a successful gambler and being a gambling addict. Someone can be addicted to gambling and yet they are not successful, they keep losing their money to the extent that they sell their properties in order to continue gambling. In the other hand, a successful gambler may not be winning every day, but they have a very workable strategy that makes their winning higher than their losses. But then it is not easy to see a gambling addict who is a successful gambler.

[madnessteat]

If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.

successful gamblers not gamble with panic they always control themself and gamble with patients. And that's why they win most of the time in gambling without losing. this is the best strategy to not panic gamble and be patient to take advantage of occasional opportunities and earn high profits. And always gambling with a limit budget it will reduce the chances of big losing. And unless the loss is big, a gambler can easily control himself without panicking. So it is better to adopt this strategy

Controlling patience while gambling is a very difficult thing which not everyone can do. But I think if someone starts gambling with panic during gambling then he will never win in gambling. There are some strategies while gambling which can be used to win.  It may be different if someone starts gambling in a new state. I think gambling is a fun game but not everyone likes it because there is a deadly addiction in gambling which can lead to destruction.

I believe that panic is something that is contrary not only to gambling, but also to trading and many other things that involve money management. I have met people in my life who in the moment of panic completely lose control over themselves and it plays against them. I believe that if a person is prone to panic, it is better not to do things where he needs to control money, because the first panic will lead to wrong actions, which in turn will lead to loss of money.

[Vaculin]

But those who become successful gamblers are not addicted to gambling because success means they can have more abilities than most gamblers.

yes, those who are successful should have better skills than others. but I believe they also spend more time and also more bets in the casino to play.
this process may show that gamblers will become addicted or that they will become well-controlled gamblers. Good gamblers know when they should place a bet and when they should leave the game.

There is a fine line that separates these professional gamblers and just an addicted gambler, some will say of course that these professional gamblers doesn't have much difference compared to the addicts because they too are giving too much time and focus towards gambling but in the long run, we can really see what is the difference because addicted gamblers fail to weigh the things more clearly while professional gamblers do know what they are doing as that is why they are called like that in the first place.

[bitgolden]

I won't shy from the fact that there are people who are living on gambling, those people can't tell me they are not addicts, yet they are making their money from it. It's rare to see a successful gambler but there are some consistent winners. In my country, there are some that would suit up in the morning, while others would be in their casual wear and will only be back from the gambling house in the evening. This is what some will ever do, while some of them did it until they could gather money to start a business and still continue with their gambling.

These are examples of gambling addicts, but it's positive for them. The truth is that addiction is not always bad, it's only bad when it's becoming negative to your life.

I guess that's basically based on sports betting or poker type of games where you mostly gamble against other people. Because when we are talking about regular betting, it is not going to be acceptable level and we are not going to see any big changes neither.

I believe that we are going to end up seeing it change a bit and we are going to end up with these people making profit so they are considered profitable addicts. They are still addicts I agree to that, but since they are making a profit out of it most of the time, they do not have a valid reason to quit neither, and that should always be considered as the most important part for them. I know that it is a risky subject and a lot of people try to avoid it as much as they can, but I believe it's fine.

[nullama]

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There is a fine line that separates these professional gamblers and just an addicted gambler, some will say of course that these professional gamblers doesn't have much difference compared to the addicts because they too are giving too much time and focus towards gambling but in the long run, we can really see what is the difference because addicted gamblers fail to weigh the things more clearly while professional gamblers do know what they are doing as that is why they are called like that in the first place.

That fine line is basically the amount of money they have won vs how much they have paid. Simple as that.

Most "professional gamblers" are just people with money that spend time in a casino paying for it.

In reality they are not making money from it. They are most probably selling something to people or getting money from ads, etc.

[borovichok]

That fine line is basically the amount of money they have won vs how much they have paid. Simple as that.

Most "professional gamblers" are just people with money that spend time in a casino paying for it.

In reality they are not making money from it. They are most probably selling something to people or getting money from ads, etc.

Experience and time spent on the main emphasis are essential for obtaining excellent outcomes. It's genuinely simple: finances are the key factor that distinguishes successful gamblers from addicted ones. There is definitely possibility for improvement if you spend more time performing the same thing again and over. Successful gamblers are most often the top earners in the gaming industry; these individuals are already in the lead and eager to take their game to the next level. They worked considerably harder than the addicted gamblers, who just hung out with nothing to show for it.

[wiss19]

I think it depends on how you look at it or interpret the word addict because it's almost undeniable that there are even some positive things even after labeled as an addict. But in most situations, addicts are synonymous with crackheads or someone who does things excessively because they already lost total control over themselves, cannot think clearly and the ability to weigh things correctly as well is already lost.

Addiction is a terrible thing, and we should avoid it by all means. Addicts are willing to go to any length to gamble on games, even if it means selling their valuables in order to obtain money to place wagers. Furthermore, an addicted gambler will not be profitable since he has no objectives, no risk management, and zero principles, only wagering without an alternative strategy. Although they are financial gamblers, successful gamblers cannot be regarded as addicted. They forecast games and provide profitable outcomes. It is imperative that we understand how to categorize these sets.

The main thing that an addicted gambler cannot keep discipline and will do things their own way what they think is right but isn't actually right, they don't care about how much money and time they've spent per day or per week, they don't care if their bankroll is getting exhausted, they wouldn't worry about them not being able to give any time to their family and friends, because they just don't have any control over themselves and their emotions.

Such a person cannot be a successful gambler, I mean how can you be a successful gambler if you can't stop gambling when you are already ahead of the house? If you still keep gambling only with the hope that you might win more, you will lose what you've won so far. So an addicted gambler cannot be a successful gambler, and a successful gambler shouldn't be called a gambling addict.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

         -    OP what do you mean is successful? The one who won a big jackpot in gamble? Or is it a source of income in their mind gambling? I just asked because if a gambler was newbie because of curiosity he just tried to gamble after he got the jackpot so I couldn't say he was an addict.

In this scenario, it can be a way for a new gambler to be addicted. It depends on him if he wants to lead to such a situation.

[maydna]

    OP what do you mean is successful? The one who won a big jackpot in gamble? Or is it a source of income in their mind gambling? I just asked because if a gambler was newbie because of curiosity he just tried to gamble after he got the jackpot so I couldn't say he was an addict.

In this scenario, it can be a way for a new gambler to be addicted. It depends on him if he wants to lead to such a situation.

The point is gamblers who are successful in making money almost every day can overcome the problem of gambling addiction or even not experience gambling addiction at all. But we know that if someone wants to make gambling his source of income, he must realize that it is not easy to get it. Beginner gamblers can get the jackpot because they can get beginner's luck, but after that, it might not be easy for them to get the jackpot or even just to get regular wins. But indeed, the novice gambler is not a gambling addict because he has just started gambling, but if he cannot limit his time and money to gamble, he may develop a gambling addiction. And it is not long to see someone will develop a gambling addiction.

[Westinhome]

Well that's right, the word success in gambling I think is nonsense. The principle in gambling is to prioritize luck and how can someone who gets lucky in gambling be said to be a successful person. Someone who manages to win at gambling means that luck is on their side and it is only temporary. My question is, is there a gambler who supports his family from his success in gambling, of course not. Because gambling is an action that is done for entertainment only and as a prize if they are lucky then they will get a win. Well, on the other hand, maybe some of them think that when they succeed in achieving something in gambling, such as winning, it is a success. But basically, we still can't categorize a win as success, because this is a gamble, as you said, there is no consistent word in it, and that means that all wins in gambling are just luck.

We can’t say it blindly no success in the gambling,some of my friends earning huge money from the gambling using their own strategy.I had tried to get their strategy,but with bad luck.He said me to create my own strategies instead of using his strategy,because he had spend nearly 7 months to create the strategy.Then I try to get his strategy by saying I will pay him.But he said don’t waste time by using other strategies,try to create own strategy.So if you lose the money,then I won’t blame anyone for the loss.Like this use the time to create own strategies for using your own money.Many people forget the fact gambling was created to entertain the people.Because of using real money,people are greedy to get profit for his money.