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August 28, 2023, 12:01:22 PM
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If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.
Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers


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August 28, 2023, 12:19:54 PM
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If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.
Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers
Depends on how we see successful gamblers, it may vary. For me successful gamblers are the one who take home huge amount of profit and beats the casino. In this case, I'm positive that there are addicted gamblers who successfully beat the casino with the luck or the experience they have.

Success can be temporary and some addicted gamblers can prove it by losing their massive accumulated profit later on. Though I can't generalize it all since we all have a different experiences, but one thing is for sure. Those who stay successful has the skills and control on what they are doing.
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August 28, 2023, 02:26:33 PM
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If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.
Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers

And it has a name called professional gamblers, these professionals are somehow addicted as well but we cannot say that they don't know what they are doing because they surely think differently compared to the other gamblers and that is why they are called in that name for a reason and because they are getting what they want by doing some gamble with more success on their side. Sure losses cannot be avoided but they are making sure that their wins are much bigger compared to their loses.

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August 28, 2023, 04:27:52 PM
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If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.
Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers

Successful gamblers also experienced that kind of experience which you have described to addicts in gambling. For sure for their first time or they are just starting they have felt the same way but it would only differ on how they would take that experience if its a lesson or just an experience. If you have seen a video on Tiktok of people doing a gambling where they almost look like a zombie by just playing slots (I can't find the link for the video). So would you consider them as addicts? We can right but how come if they might act like it but they've already won huge amount that's why their behavior and attitude is like that? My point is everyone might have different mindset in doing gambling, we have different techniques so even if you do your own research but if you lack experience you would still get a hard time in gambling because its still based on luck.

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August 28, 2023, 05:15:52 PM
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If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.
Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers
Yup success need patience and hard thinking & work. An addicted gambler can never be successful. Because the only successful gamblers are those who gamble patiently and do a lot of research on gambling without panicking and gambling. a person who focuses more on a thing gradually becomes an expert on that. So logically a successful gambler cannot be called a gambling addict. Because the person who is addicted to gambling, if he wins gambling, greed will work in him and he will lose them again after gambling again and again. But successful gamblers won't do that.  If they win gambling, they will use that money for some other good purpose



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August 28, 2023, 05:25:26 PM
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Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers

The successful gambler will not get addicted any point,the greedy people only get addicted to the gambling.The gambling sites will help us to earn some big win when the fortune come to you.But you should not get addicted after that win,then all your winning may go to the loss.Plan the game after the winning will keep you away from the addiction.The addicted gamblers will not be normal,they will keep play till the daily deposit limits get over.They will play the sleepless game,but the normal gambler won’t play the game without the sleep.Because they consider gambling as the game,but the addict consider the gambling as the earning platform.Just expect the entertainment from the gambling.
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Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers

The successful gambler will not get addicted any point,the greedy people only get addicted to the gambling.The gambling sites will help us to earn some big win when the fortune come to you.But you should not get addicted after that win,then all your winning may go to the loss.Plan the game after the winning will keep you away from the addiction.The addicted gamblers will not be normal,they will keep play till the daily deposit limits get over.They will play the sleepless game,but the normal gambler won’t play the game without the sleep.Because they consider gambling as the game,but the addict consider the gambling as the earning platform.Just expect the entertainment from the gambling.

But they must have been addicted before they got their control over this addiction. This is just like getting in love with a woman, you'll get brokenhearted first and then you get over with the fantasies in order for you to be able to think straight.

Those successful gamblers have been there before, they've been addicted at least during their early years which today they can sleep tight even when the night they lost thousands of USD, they won't hastily bet in order to get back the loss.


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August 28, 2023, 11:15:01 PM
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If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.
Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers
Depends on how we see successful gamblers, it may vary. For me successful gamblers are the one who take home huge amount of profit and beats the casino. In this case, I'm positive that there are addicted gamblers who successfully beat the casino with the luck or the experience they have.

Success can be temporary and some addicted gamblers can prove it by losing their massive accumulated profit later on. Though I can't generalize it all since we all have a different experiences, but one thing is for sure. Those who stay successful has the skills and control on what they are doing.
Yes, it's true, this depends on our point of view about the meaning of the word "successful gambler". The successful gambler does not only mean that he has gambled for decades and has made a lot of profit. But someone who is just getting to know gambling and joins in gambling then he wins a very big jackpot, in my opinion that can also be called a "successful gambler" too.
But if what the OP meant is the successful gamblers that I mentioned first, then I think yes, they will certainly experience addiction, but they can control their gambling desires, therefore they can be called "successful gamblers".
But I think that basically everyone who carries out gambling activities actually has potential and must have experienced gambling addiction in carrying out their gambling activities. But we cannot immediately judge that a successful gambler is a gambling addict in a negative sense because it all depends on their individual self-control.

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August 28, 2023, 11:23:15 PM
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they are successful for reason though, to put it simply, the fact that they are successful because they are having self control and good strategy otherwise they'd just outright went bankrupt.
I think they are not addicts, instead they are strategic people that always thinks with logic thats the main reason why they are winning in the first place.
but we don't really know right? they could be very well winning simply because they are lucky too.
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August 28, 2023, 11:31:13 PM
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they are successful for reason though, to put it simply, the fact that they are successful because they are having self control and good strategy otherwise they'd just outright went bankrupt.
I think they are not addicts, instead they are strategic people that always thinks with logic thats the main reason why they are winning in the first place.
but we don't really know right? they could be very well winning simply because they are lucky too.
Self control and discipline is what make the difference. You can be a successful gambler and still be an addictive one because it all depends on the way we utilize it and from what angle we are seeing it. Gambling is something we need to understand and what it take someone to be a successful one. When we have become a professional with results, we can be called a successful gambler either an addictive one or just a discipline one. When we want to make profits by all means as a gambler, we might be tempted to do the wrong thing becoming an addict.

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August 29, 2023, 04:50:56 AM
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Self control and discipline is what make the difference. You can be a successful gambler and still be an addictive one because it all depends on the way we utilize it and from what angle we are seeing it. Gambling is something we need to understand and what it take someone to be a successful one. When we have become a professional with results, we can be called a successful gambler either an addictive one or just a discipline one. When we want to make profits by all means as a gambler, we might be tempted to do the wrong thing becoming an addict.

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August 29, 2023, 07:58:24 AM
 #352

they are successful for reason though, to put it simply, the fact that they are successful because they are having self control and good strategy otherwise they'd just outright went bankrupt.
I think they are not addicts, instead they are strategic people that always thinks with logic thats the main reason why they are winning in the first place.
but we don't really know right? they could be very well winning simply because they are lucky too.
A successful gambler clearly has better self-control than other gamblers, where they can play gambling calmly and not just chase victory. And I also agree that successful gamblers are not gambling addicts because of their advantages in playing gambling. They can think about when to leave the casino, especially before losing a lot. Meanwhile, this is different from us who are still provoked to keep playing even though we have experienced many losses. And we also don't see that by experiencing that many losses, we should have been able to decide to stop gambling first but there are still many who continue to play gambling instead. And that's what makes us even become gambling addict, and instead of getting success from gambling, we even lose more money and can't recover the loss.

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August 29, 2023, 09:34:07 AM
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they are successful for reason though, to put it simply, the fact that they are successful because they are having self control and good strategy otherwise they'd just outright went bankrupt.
I think they are not addicts, instead they are strategic people that always thinks with logic thats the main reason why they are winning in the first place.
but we don't really know right? they could be very well winning simply because they are lucky too.
A successful gambler clearly has better self-control than other gamblers, where they can play gambling calmly and not just chase victory. And I also agree that successful gamblers are not gambling addicts because of their advantages in playing gambling. They can think about when to leave the casino, especially before losing a lot. Meanwhile, this is different from us who are still provoked to keep playing even though we have experienced many losses. And we also don't see that by experiencing that many losses, we should have been able to decide to stop gambling first but there are still many who continue to play gambling instead. And that's what makes us even become gambling addict, and instead of getting success from gambling, we even lose more money and can't recover the loss.

I'm going to ask a little bit first about, what is meant by successful gamblers? Do they get a lot of winnings continuously and have a lot of money from gambling? or are they those who manage to control themselves when playing? But honestly I disagree with my first statement, and my assumption is the same as yours that in gambling the meaning of success is in other words those who are able to fully control themselves with some restrictions that they have planned beforehand and they can do it without any obstacles, but referring to the first statement I disagree with successful gamblers are those who manage to get a lot of money, it doesn't make sense if it only relies on luck. And that means successful gamblers are those who are not addicted. All the process of getting into addiction is the same, like you said it starts from a win mostly, they manage to get a win but never feel satisfied and they think this is an opportunity to make a lot of money, without realizing that this is a temptation for them to get stuck there longer. It's hard to get out of addiction because everyone has lust and greed especially about money.

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August 29, 2023, 09:39:42 AM
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Self control and discipline is what make the difference. You can be a successful gambler and still be an addictive one because it all depends on the way we utilize it and from what angle we are seeing it. Gambling is something we need to understand and what it take someone to be a successful one. When we have become a professional with results, we can be called a successful gambler either an addictive one or just a discipline one. When we want to make profits by all means as a gambler, we might be tempted to do the wrong thing becoming an addict.

At the end of the day the odds are against you, and being self controlled and disciplined won't make a difference.

It's all just probabilities in the end. You might have one person that hits the jackpot at their first try, while another diligent one never wins it.

Self control and discipline wont make a difference in the result/outcome (win/lose) indeed but it will make a big difference for our whole gambling journey. Without self control and discipline, you might be down badly and affect your whole life emotionally and financially. This is for me what is called by "successful gambler", gamblers who can play gambling as they wish and it does not affect their life negatively because they have self control and discipline in managing their money and time for gambling.

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August 29, 2023, 11:08:27 AM
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Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers

Obviously, that kind of person is already drowned in this bad habit and only when he finally realizes he is doing it wrong he can stop to play or someone whom he takes as a real adviser will tell him to stop or else he just won't stop until it's finally the end of the game where he loses everything and doesn't have any money to play anymore. before this happen to anyone they need to consider doubling their intentions so that they can pure themselves from any of these critical way of thinking because if they don't evaluate and ponder upon themselves, most likely they gonna just simply ruin their lives if they don't know what are the risks of this action.

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August 29, 2023, 02:08:29 PM
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Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers

Obviously, that kind of person is already drowned in this bad habit and only when he finally realizes he is doing it wrong he can stop to play or someone whom he takes as a real adviser will tell him to stop or else he just won't stop until it's finally the end of the game where he loses everything and doesn't have any money to play anymore. before this happen to anyone they need to consider doubling their intentions so that they can pure themselves from any of these critical way of thinking because if they don't evaluate and ponder upon themselves, most likely they gonna just simply ruin their lives if they don't know what are the risks of this action.

That is if they can still realize that they are already in a deep trouble or have already dug themselves a grave because in most cases, these addicted gamblers can only be helped if someone will help them as none of them realized that they are already addicted. From their perspective, it's like a regular day for them and chasing wins while also having losses but they don't know that they are already in a loop that has been going on for months and years and might've already caused some troubles that affects their own family.

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August 29, 2023, 04:04:13 PM
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Self control and discipline is what make the difference. You can be a successful gambler and still be an addictive one because it all depends on the way we utilize it and from what angle we are seeing it. Gambling is something we need to understand and what it take someone to be a successful one. When we have become a professional with results, we can be called a successful gambler either an addictive one or just a discipline one. When we want to make profits by all means as a gambler, we might be tempted to do the wrong thing becoming an addict.

At the end of the day the odds are against you, and being self controlled and disciplined won't make a difference.

It's all just probabilities in the end. You might have one person that hits the jackpot at their first try, while another diligent one never wins it.

Self control and discipline wont make a difference in the result/outcome (win/lose) indeed but it will make a big difference for our whole gambling journey. Without self control and discipline, you might be down badly and affect your whole life emotionally and financially. This is for me what is called by "successful gambler", gamblers who can play gambling as they wish and it does not affect their life negatively because they have self control and discipline in managing their money and time for gambling.
Around 80% gamblers  haven’t self-control that's why Most gamblers seem to suffer. Gamblers get greedy very quickly and on the other hand gambling sites advertise themselves and show attractive offers which make gamblers auto greedy.  And those who can control themselves and gamble with a cool head and deep thinking are the ones who succeed most of the time. And stupid gamblers are preoccupied with emotions and repeatedly lose gambling but cannot quit gambling.


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August 29, 2023, 04:59:08 PM
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they are successful for reason though, to put it simply, the fact that they are successful because they are having self control and good strategy otherwise they'd just outright went bankrupt.
I think they are not addicts, instead they are strategic people that always thinks with logic thats the main reason why they are winning in the first place.
but we don't really know right? they could be very well winning simply because they are lucky too.
Self control and discipline is what make the difference. You can be a successful gambler and still be an addictive one because it all depends on the way we utilize it and from what angle we are seeing it.


I disagree though. What we would consider to be a "successful gambler" cannot be a person addicted to gambling at the same time, because the success would imply to have self-control and planing on money, which is something a person addicted to gambling cannot do easily.

For example, someone who is successful at gambling would imply they manage to keep a positive net gain in relation to their losses, regardless of their total amount wagered and when we think of someone who is addicted we imagine someone who is going through such crisis which could let them to sell their goods, to have family problems, even lose their job.

For that reason I do not believe a successful gambler can be addicted to gambling. 

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August 29, 2023, 05:59:02 PM
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This always comes down to money. If we are talking about poker players maybe they have a chance, but if we are talking about casino games then there is no chance that you will win because of the house edge.

So, the bottom line becomes "are you making a living out of this and making a profit overall?" if the answer is yes then we could say that they could be addicted but also since it's their profession then they may not even enjoy it, it could just feel like a job for them and maybe they rather not even do it, but they still do because they need the money. I have met with a guy who was a professional poker player and he was like that, he wagered online on poker rooms everyday for hours and that wasn't fun for him, it was a job.

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August 29, 2023, 06:17:18 PM
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Of course, it becomes addictive to gamblers when they get constant profits. I have a friend who is very much addicted to betting site because of which he bets daily and a few days ago he sold his bike just because of gambling addiction. There are many rich people who have taken up gambling as a profession. Actually this is their freedom based activity so they have found a way to earn money without working hard. Gambling makes you rich and it takes no time to become poor so the risk is high in this game.
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