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September 24, 2023, 07:09:52 AM
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Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
I would never consider a successful gambler as an addict considering the motive. Because in gambling our goal is to win there and if it takes me a long time for that win then it must come under proactive work on the other hand if I bet for a long time to recover the loss then I can call it addiction. This means that successful gamblers cannot be considered addicted gamblers. On the other hand, those who are not successful may have a different opinion. Since it is very difficult to succeed in gambling, many people turn to long-term gambling addiction.
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September 24, 2023, 07:17:18 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I think gambling addicts are not they they will be successful gamblers. Many of my friends are addicted to gambling and they end up in ruin. What makes a gambler successful is officially the luck he has. Or because he plays in predictable stakes like football or MMA matches. If it is a game in a casino then of course every game will be arranged in such a way. No casino makes games that are not under their control. That is my personal opinion.

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September 24, 2023, 11:16:36 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
I think gambling addicts are not they they will be successful gamblers. Many of my friends are addicted to gambling and they end up in ruin. What makes a gambler successful is officially the luck he has. Or because he plays in predictable stakes like football or MMA matches. If it is a game in a casino then of course every game will be arranged in such a way. No casino makes games that are not under their control. That is my personal opinion.
It's not just about luck but also other abilities successful gamblers possess. Successful gamblers are different from gamblers addicted to gambling in that successful gamblers will not continue to gamble just to chase wins. A successful gambler knows how to treat gambling properly so that when he gets enough winnings, he immediately stops before things turn bad. He also wouldn't force himself to continue betting, especially if the situation didn't allow it. But gamblers addicted to gambling only want to gamble and chase more wins, so this will affect their psychology.

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September 24, 2023, 05:04:00 PM
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Casinos will want you to stay as long as possible, and to come back as many times as possible.

The longer you bet, the more money you will lose.

I was wondering too: could there be any situation where a gambler can keep gambling and make more wins than losses because, in gambling, losses are more than just a few streaks of wins the person can have? I guess a gambler can only become successful if they already have a good source of income that is steadily fetching them more income, or maybe the gambler was lucky to win a very huge amount from gambling and they were very sensible to invest the money into an asset that generates profit for them. Casinos always win, while gamblers lose more with just a small chance of winning.

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September 25, 2023, 09:13:04 AM
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I was wondering too: could there be any situation where a gambler can keep gambling and make more wins than losses because, in gambling, losses are more than just a few streaks of wins the person can have? I guess a gambler can only become successful if they already have a good source of income that is steadily fetching them more income, or maybe the gambler was lucky to win a very huge amount from gambling and they were very sensible to invest the money into an asset that generates profit for them. Casinos always win, while gamblers lose more with just a small chance of winning.

It is basically impossible to have a gambler winning many times in a row.

Imagine having tails all the time in a coin toss, it is very difficult, and that's just a 50/50 bet.

Here is the probability:

First tail: 0.5

Two tails in a row: 0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25

Etc...

If you continue you see that the number gets lower and lower.

Sure, you can have an external income that fuels the losses, but... why?

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September 25, 2023, 09:28:23 AM
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It's impossible for gamblers to keep winning, if you see any gambler becoming successful with gambling, they know how to manage risks, that's the only thing that's keeping them from going broke through gambling, and some are just lucky to be successful through gambling, they start with a reckless gambling habit and they believe things will always be this way, as time goes on they will end up losing every success back to gambling.

One thing that sacred me the most about gambling is making it all and losing it all back because of gambling, most people that are successful through gambling don't know how to quit, in fact, I have not seen any one who is a gambler, either successful or just a low time winner giving up on gambling, this is the most scary part to me, it's like a prison that you will always find yourself in, no letting go, like a first class demon possession. 

People don't always like to be truthful, everyone knows how risky gambling can be, they will throw hate words at you as a gambler but when you start getting lucky over and over and it turn things around for you, those people wont see you as an addict then, they won't even be able to advice you to diverse your money into a legal business, they won't see an addict anymore, they will see a lucky man who turned millionaire through gambling.
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September 25, 2023, 04:59:29 PM
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According to my opinion a gambler cannot be successful all the time and a successful man never become a part of gambling. Instead of wasting your money and time in gambling why you don't do something else in which your money will be saved.

There are lots of other things in which you can invest your time and money both as a result of which you loyalty will remain same and you will talk about it proudly to your friends and family.

Addiction means that you cannot leave the accepted thing because your fun then altered into bad intoxication. Everyone think that if they leave gambling they will loss but according to my suggestion by leaving gambling you will avoid your coming loss because previous loss was just one or two time but in future if you again loss money then you will be unable to forget that sum.
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September 25, 2023, 06:13:49 PM
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In my opinion, yes. Why would you be successful in something if you don't like what you're doing and you won't focus on it, right?
You invested a lot of time and effort in this because you hope that one day all your hard work will pay off. And that's what makes you successful here.

Just because you've been successful doesn't mean you're not an addict. It's just the same, the only difference here, is that you became successful in being addicted to gambling. This is what I think.


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September 25, 2023, 10:02:33 PM
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Just because you've been successful doesn't mean you're not an addict. It's just the same, the only difference here, is that you became successful in being addicted to gambling. This is what I think.

I agree with the thoughts you convey. But if we talk about the status of "addict", I think this status is rarely used for people who have big wins and are considered successful from gambling activities because the addict status will only be attached or stigmatized to someone who experiences loss problems and experiences negative impacts from gambling activities.
I don't know, but I think the term successful gambler is just a fiction from television or a story created by the media to make it more interesting to read and tell. In my opinion, no gambler can truly be successful without experiencing defeat or even large material losses in the world of gambling.
Even gamblers who are considered successful have definitely experienced big losses and maybe even experienced very serious bankruptcy too. In my opinion, gamblers who are considered successful or whatever they are called are definitely "addicts" or they also have gambling addiction problems.
It's just that in my opinion what differentiates between gambling addicts who are considered successful and gamblers who are considered failures is their luck and the way they overcome the problem or risk of their gambling addiction.









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September 25, 2023, 10:55:16 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Gambling is a risky game, for anybody to be successful in gambling, it means that person has taken gambling as a career. Though at some point, he may look like an addict but then his a successful addict, which in turn means, his a successful career person. So  for him to be that successful, It then means health-wise, he is okay, psychological he is fine.

But situations like this hardly happen, it's almost impossible to see somebody winning week in week out in gambling, it can only happen for a certain period of time but not for too long, like big win's happens once in a while.  What if I'm a one hit wonder person, like I'm not a regular gambler but once upon a time I made some good money after playing a certain game, so does that make me an addict even though I've made good money at a certain time, just like it is a one time thing, the answer is no.
So You can be successful in gambling but not addict.

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September 26, 2023, 01:23:50 AM
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In my opinion, yes. Why would you be successful in something if you don't like what you're doing and you won't focus on it, right?
You invested a lot of time and effort in this because you hope that one day all your hard work will pay off. And that's what makes you successful here.

Just because you've been successful doesn't mean you're not an addict. It's just the same, the only difference here, is that you became successful in being addicted to gambling. This is what I think.


Everything on earth has to do with sacrifice,if sacrificing to be an addict will make you become financially stable,then it's better.Addiction comes unknowingly,and one gets addicted to something he or she is passionate about.If you don not love to do something,I think it might be a little difficult for you to be addicted to that thing,The constant and persistent habbit of doing that particular thing gradually turns you into being an addict of it.

In as much as you derive success at the end of the gambling,it won't matter whether you are an addict or not,when addiction matters is when you are poor,and still can't do without gambling.

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September 26, 2023, 02:23:46 AM
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In gambling there is no proper definition of success. Either you win or lose in gambling. If your winning amount is more than your losing amount, then yes it can be considered as somehow successful. But to make this happen, you need to have good bankroll which you will use to recover the losses. Now if you have a big bankroll, then it only defines that you are rich and you are gambling only for recreational purposes. So yes calling them as addicts won’t be suitable.

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September 26, 2023, 02:50:39 AM
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Yes, it is very correct, but it is as you say, a successful player knows how to withdraw from the game so as not to continue losing and that is an advantage, I think that an addict like that knows that he will be bankrupt, he does not withdraw from the game , this will gives to a level where he can no Longer do more, nor can he do more, because that is what addiction consists of, something uncontrollable for the player and that obviously needs many things so that he can do things well, the biggest problem for a player is when If you run out of money, and you have to resort to other methods to get money and continue playing, in itself, the game is what does not give the game peace of mind, and every second you have left is stronger for the player, so in this order Of course we could think that things can be good for a casino and bad for a player, only the casino is not to blame for a player's addiction, because as I have said on many occasions, the casino does not force a player to place bets or Does it tell you how much you can bet, everything is under your absolute Responsibility , then we could conclude that when it comes to addiction , when it Belongs to people who are addicted or not, it could not be considered whether an addiction is successful, but rather it would have another name , because if it is successful, and makes a good amount of Money , then it is something very good, even I would do it, if it were successful, I don't care, but I would play and play because my results are good, but rest I don't think so.

A successful player in a casino is quite difficult to exist, if there is one I don't know where he will be, or in which casino he will play, because it is very difficult for someone to be profitable and even less so in games of chance, even so in sports betting it is also Profitable difficult , those things like Trading are difficult to have, so what I think is that each player has his time and streak, but a good streak to take advantage of every moment he plays, otherwise I don't love him or feel Addicted to him until he loses control of your money and your life Becomes Distorted.
That is the difference between a successful gambler and a gambler who is addicted to gambling. Treating gambling as entertainment will not make someone a gambler who is addicted to gambling because they just want to have fun from gambling and can use their time and money well. Even though they are not successful gamblers, at least they can be responsible as gamblers. Maybe one day, if they can remain responsible while gambling, they too can become successful gamblers. In other words, they can win and use their winnings well. Meanwhile, gamblers who are addicted to gambling will only become increasingly trapped in the gambling circle without being able to get out of it if they do not have the desire to cure their gambling addiction. Successful gamblers can also be responsible for avoiding gambling addiction because they have the necessary things to avoid gambling addiction.

It is true that it will be difficult for someone to get lucky when playing gambling, but it is not luck that a wise gambler is looking for. He just wants to have fun playing gambling. And even though we may have difficulty finding a successful gambler, that doesn't mean we can't find him because maybe one day, we will find him so we can learn a lot from him. We can only try to be responsible gamblers because that is the most important thing to avoid gambling addiction, which will be a big problem for everyone who gambles excessively.

Well, they say you hear that doing any activity in excess is not good, all activities, and in the casino even more so because things are very likely to give people a lot of pleasure and they can lose control, some achieve addiction only in one star day in the casino, but I think this is not worthy of a successful player, perhaps a successful player could spend a lot of Time being in the Casino , but if it Gives good results and is there a lot of time, I think it is Something to consider , but taking into account that the casino when playing in the long term the results are favorable to the casino but not to the player because you can stop yourself from continuing in the activity, of course only so that you are a successful player, but there are successful players who can achieve any result as long as they play little and with quality, Intelligence and Decision, every day in the casino can be like that, but to get to that level you need a lot of Experience and to Have a lot of clarity in finances.

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September 26, 2023, 03:11:13 AM
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In gambling, no one will be successful in the gambling circle, whether online or offline, because what I know is that most people experience an economic crisis after getting to know gambling, regarding addiction or hobby that cannot be stopped because it has become a person's habit when playing gambling, according to I think it is impossible for someone to become successful from the results of gambling..

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September 26, 2023, 03:29:03 AM
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In gambling, no one will be successful in the gambling circle, whether online or offline, because what I know is that most people experience an economic crisis after getting to know gambling, regarding addiction or hobby that cannot be stopped because it has become a person's habit when playing gambling, according to I think it is impossible for someone to become successful from the results of gambling..
That true but some people have managed to change their lives from gambling even though the percentage is only 1 in 1000 people and of course whoever gets this luck will never be able to repeat it and when they return to gambling all the winnings they have will be gone without any remainder.
Talking about the economic crisis are you not aware that gambling is growing rapidly and more and more people are entering gambling when the Covid pandemic takes place and at that time the economy of every country is declining or experiencing a crisis that is quite severe so that saying.

Moreover in gambling the person who can gain the most profit and success is the casino owner not the gambler and I don't think that all gamblers can be said to be addicts but indeed gambling has an impact on the opportunity to become a gambling addict.

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September 26, 2023, 03:47:05 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
In fact, he's not an addict at all. Despite dedicating a significant amount of time and energy to gambling, he maintains excellent control in every game. Gambling always favors those who can manage their emotions and finances effectively.

Some may still doubt that gambling can lead to success. But success doesn't always have to mean wealth, does it? Observing someone with a high win rate in gambling is also a form of success, right? However, those who profit significantly from the gambling industry as players are able to control their emotions and avoid becoming immersed in continuous gameplay. They truly exercise self-control, not allowing the casino to control them.
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In gambling there is no proper definition of success. Either you win or lose in gambling. If your winning amount is more than your losing amount, then yes it can be considered as somehow successful. But to make this happen, you need to have good bankroll which you will use to recover the losses. Now if you have a big bankroll, then it only defines that you are rich and you are gambling only for recreational purposes. So yes calling them as addicts won’t be suitable.

If you are constantly playing that means that you will have to constantly pour your money into the casinos.

I think at that level the definition of addiction is ok.

Because you are still gambling but are paying a lot constantly for it, without ever stopping. It might get to a point where you do not have the extra money coming in and then it will be hard to stop

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September 26, 2023, 05:18:27 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
In fact, he's not an addict at all. Despite dedicating a significant amount of time and energy to gambling, he maintains excellent control in every game. Gambling always favors those who can manage their emotions and finances effectively.

Some may still doubt that gambling can lead to success. But success doesn't always have to mean wealth, does it? Observing someone with a high win rate in gambling is also a form of success, right? However, those who profit significantly from the gambling industry as players are able to control their emotions and avoid becoming immersed in continuous gameplay. They truly exercise self-control, not allowing the casino to control them.

Well, I still want to know the answer: how are successful people in gambling defined? Someone who wins a lot of money or knows how to control themselves when gambling.
Addiction is a relapsing disease of the brain that can manifest as a craving for a substance or behavior. They pursue compulsively or obsessively and without regard to the consequences. Thus, addicts will have to suffer severe consequences. Therefore, I would not consider people who are successful in gambling to be addicts because they have won and are in control of their actions.

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September 26, 2023, 05:59:26 AM
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Well, they say you hear that doing any activity in excess is not good, all activities, and in the casino even more so because things are very likely to give people a lot of pleasure and they can lose control, some achieve addiction only in one star day in the casino, but I think this is not worthy of a successful player, perhaps a successful player could spend a lot of Time being in the Casino , but if it Gives good results and is there a lot of time, I think it is Something to consider , but taking into account that the casino when playing in the long term the results are favorable to the casino but not to the player because you can stop yourself from continuing in the activity, of course only so that you are a successful player, but there are successful players who can achieve any result as long as they play little and with quality, Intelligence and Decision, every day in the casino can be like that, but to get to that level you need a lot of Experience and to Have a lot of clarity in finances.

A person who really has a high Financial education knows how to play in a casino, because those things are what determine how a person can have fun with money, and a person who has great things like knowledge and good money Management , well There will be Problems having fun with the casino, but of course, healthily, spending money that I have available for fun, I don't see any other way that can be done to have good results, and a successful person in the casino, since they must have a financial education high, because knowing that the casino is high risk and yet it is still there, it must have a good strategy, then if a person is Successful, for me a Successful Person in a casino will Earn money, and his balance will be time is growing, that for me is a person who knows what he is doing, who knows what he wants and who does not allow himself to be carried away by emcoins so easily, because he has money committed and having it Committed is a delicate Operation.
Successful gamblers can make money and avoid gambling addiction by playing casinos because they have many things that can prevent them from problems arising from gambling. Gambling activities carried out by successful gamblers can make them enjoy their gambling time, especially since they can make money from gambling. But we must remember that successful gamblers are also human beings vulnerable to losing control of themselves when playing. But that is unlikely because successful gamblers can prevent bad things that may have happened to many gamblers. Successful gamblers also know they cannot always win from the casino because the casino will get more money from both gamblers who are addicted to gambling and successful gamblers, so successful gamblers prefer to gamble in moderation.

People who can manage their finances when gambling will not use their money excessively because they think that getting pleasure from gambling does not require much money. He can use enough money to get pleasure from gambling so that he doesn't have to face problems like other gamblers and can also avoid gambling addiction. And if they don't have a high level of financial education, they can also try to manage their money and allocate a sufficient amount of money for gambling. They also don't need to gamble every day like other people, especially if they have other activities that take up their time. They always maintain this commitment so they do not become addicted to gambling and can still get pleasure from gambling.

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September 26, 2023, 06:29:18 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
A successful gambler follows strict rules and has practical strategies for winning, whereas an addict does not. Even though they have the common of losing sometimes, the addicted gambler doesn't know how to stop betting, and sometimes they bet even their houses, cars, properties, etc., until they become broke. I watched some of the vloggers on our local who I considered successful gamblers, these people have a set of rules in their mind that if they follow, they can earn a significant amount of money. It's fascinating to see how disciplined they are in their approach and how they never let their emotions get in the way of their decisions.
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