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October 05, 2023, 11:18:23 AM
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Yes, it's true, only a small percentage of gamblers experience success, maybe when they get lucky or win they realize it and can control themselves when they want to gamble again.
Sure that's correct in as much as gambling is concerned there are people who has made a fortune while there are also people who has gambled all there life but nothing to show for it, we no that most persons irrespective of how much money they have won they will still go back for more gambling as such losing all the winnings they made, but perhaps on the contrary there people whom are very experienced and has a sound mentality on gambling were as there targets is just to win and be saving up, these kind of gambling patterns tends to achieve greater things through gambling because I have actually witnessed it myself, I have seen someone that has a lot of properties through the gambling wining he made so that's the reason I said there people who has made money from gambling while there are numerous people who has lost so many things through gambling.

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October 05, 2023, 11:30:02 AM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?


I can't say it's right or wrong, so if people are successful in other fields, are they also addicted to what they do?
So my answer is that time and other things must be dedicated for you to understand something or to become an expert in it.

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October 05, 2023, 02:34:38 PM
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well, with all the things we talk about here we have to think about the main discussion, namely what is meant by a successful gambler. TBH, I am a little confused because there are several assessments for successful gamblers, namely successful gamblers building their own casinos or successful gamblers with certain strategies to make a profit from sports betting? whereas we all know the history of gamblers who always lose, even if they use any strategy, they still lose.
in this scenario it seems that what is meant by successful gamblers are gamblers who have a lot of experience and have their own casino and that cannot be said to be addicted because they think about the money they always use to bet but always lose and decide to build their own casino to get definite profits.

for me, who considers a gambler successful just because he has had a big win is just luck and in the long run I am sure he will lose all his money.
There are successful gamblers among the losing gamblers who have better skills and experience than other gamblers. Maybe they won't show themselves off as successful gamblers because they're afraid that people won't like them. So we don't know what a successful gambler is like. However, successful gamblers are not addicted to gambling because they can avoid gambling addiction. Successful gamblers have their own casinos and can make huge profits from the losing gamblers.

A successful gambler can win big, and that is because of his luck. Other people will not be able to win big wins like those successful gamblers because they do not have the same skills and experience.

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October 05, 2023, 02:46:56 PM
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The answer might be nuanced. Success in gambling doesn’t necessarily qualify someone as being an addict. Gambling addiction is characterized by a number of signs and symptoms, including but not limited to, a preoccupation with gambling, increasing amounts bet (needing to gamble with more money to get the same level of excitement), and inability to stop or reduce gambling, even in the face of negative consequences.

A gambler can be strategic, have a sharp understanding of the game and luck, and be able to win consistently without being addicted. If this person has a disciplined approach, employs a solid strategy, manages their bankroll effectively, and does not show behavioral signs of addiction, they are not necessarily a problematic gambler
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October 05, 2023, 04:53:53 PM
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well, with all the things we talk about here we have to think about the main discussion, namely what is meant by a successful gambler. TBH, I am a little confused because there are several assessments for successful gamblers, namely successful gamblers building their own casinos or successful gamblers with certain strategies to make a profit from sports betting? whereas we all know the history of gamblers who always lose, even if they use any strategy, they still lose.
in this scenario it seems that what is meant by successful gamblers are gamblers who have a lot of experience and have their own casino and that cannot be said to be addicted because they think about the money they always use to bet but always lose and decide to build their own casino to get definite profits.

for me, who considers a gambler successful just because he has had a big win is just luck and in the long run I am sure he will lose all his money.
There are successful gamblers among the losing gamblers who have better skills and experience than other gamblers. Maybe they won't show themselves off as successful gamblers because they're afraid that people won't like them. So we don't know what a successful gambler is like. However, successful gamblers are not addicted to gambling because they can avoid gambling addiction. Successful gamblers have their own casinos and can make huge profits from the losing gamblers.

A successful gambler can win big, and that is because of his luck. Other people will not be able to win big wins like those successful gamblers because they do not have the same skills and experience.
Perhaps more skilled gamblers have made it big. Remember, skill and chance must be distinguished. Some say they're skilled, but it's often luck.

Let's discuss the pseudo-problem. Why are these successful gamblers hiding if they own casinos and make large profits? Why not brag about their success? Why gamble if they're skilled? They'd keep benefitting from others.

Everyone should remember that for every gambling success story, there are innumerable losses, addictions, and sorrow. Gamble responsibly and realize that it's more amusement than a surefire road to money.

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October 05, 2023, 05:22:17 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

This is a technical question but if we are to go with what the addiction means you see it is what you like doing. So about gambling, addiction is seen in a negative way like it is assumed it has negative effect on people who gamble because they are found always in losses. Those are termed as addicts is because they are losing in their games and won't give up, so they repeatedly play but whether a successful gambler would still be called an addict, I think it will be relative. Some may follow from the meaning of the word to say they are also addicts while you could still see some that will disagree since he is successful relating to gambling.


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October 05, 2023, 06:39:41 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

It is very likely that someone who is successful in gambling will of course focus on his stance and have a strong optimism in order to be able to earn income from gambling, or you could say that gambling is done as a source of income.  This can be said if a person can be successful from gambling, of course the gambling he does is a profession that he pursues, either by investing in it or developing it in other ways that can make money from gambling itself.

Yes, in my opinion, if someone can be successful from gambling, most likely he is an addict, because he thinks gambling can make him money

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October 05, 2023, 06:51:46 PM
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The answer might be nuanced. Success in gambling doesn’t necessarily qualify someone as being an addict. Gambling addiction is characterized by a number of signs and symptoms, including but not limited to, a preoccupation with gambling, increasing amounts bet (needing to gamble with more money to get the same level of excitement), and inability to stop or reduce gambling, even in the face of negative consequences.

A gambler can be strategic, have a sharp understanding of the game and luck, and be able to win consistently without being addicted. If this person has a disciplined approach, employs a solid strategy, manages their bankroll effectively, and does not show behavioural signs of addiction, they are not necessarily a problematic gambler
Yep, you are very correct,  a gambler can be strategic and smart enough to be able to avoid all the lip holes that could drag him down into the mud of addictions, those set of gamblers,  already have their laydown plans before they embark on any of such movement and will never go against their predetermined plans in other to remain focus on the games and avoiding any form of distractions that could lead to addictions.

Doing that repeatedly is what makes them to become successful gamblers in the long run,  gambling shouldn't be taken as a passive means of earning but rather as a fun fair so there is no need to be professional innit all that is needed is just a basic guideline and skills,  then pray that your luck hit each or most times.



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October 05, 2023, 07:09:30 PM
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Yes, in my opinion, if someone can be successful from gambling, most likely he is an addict, because he thinks gambling can make him money

I don't think so. I would say gambling is totally based on luck. Of course you need some skill, but in the end it is impossible to win at gambling without luck.

Winning at gambling does not prove that a person is addicted to it. But if a person is successful in gambling and considers it as a profession then he is addicted. Gambling cannot be a profession. I know many people who have made a lot of money from gambling. But it is not their profession. They gamble for entertainment. But they are rich, so they can take big risks and in the end they are lucky so they can make a lot of money. Just because they win a lot of money, I can't say that they are addicted to it.

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Yes, in my opinion, if someone can be successful from gambling, most likely he is an addict, because he thinks gambling can make him money

I don't think so. I would say gambling is totally based on luck. Of course you need some skill, but in the end it is impossible to win at gambling without luck.

Winning at gambling does not prove that a person is addicted to it. But if a person is successful in gambling and considers it as a profession then he is addicted. Gambling cannot be a profession. I know many people who have made a lot of money from gambling. But it is not their profession. They gamble for entertainment. But they are rich, so they can take big risks and in the end they are lucky so they can make a lot of money. Just because they win a lot of money, I can't say that they are addicted to it.

We are more accustomed to seeing addicts as losers with a messed up life already though. This is because most addicts are out of control and if you are winning, dressed neatly, and dining in fine restaurants, means you are in control and have a life to live.

Those people with a gambling addiction who continue to win and have a good life with their families must be the luckiest gamblers in the world for if they only knew how the gamblers who lost millions look like when they are already homeless, they best stop already before it happens on them.


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October 05, 2023, 08:48:15 PM
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Yes, in my opinion, if someone can be successful from gambling, most likely he is an addict, because he thinks gambling can make him money

I don't think so. I would say gambling is totally based on luck. Of course you need some skill, but in the end it is impossible to win at gambling without luck.

Winning at gambling does not prove that a person is addicted to it. But if a person is successful in gambling and considers it as a profession then he is addicted. Gambling cannot be a profession. I know many people who have made a lot of money from gambling. But it is not their profession. They gamble for entertainment. But they are rich, so they can take big risks and in the end they are lucky so they can make a lot of money. Just because they win a lot of money, I can't say that they are addicted to it.

We are more accustomed to seeing addicts as losers with a messed up life already though. This is because most addicts are out of control and if you are winning, dressed neatly, and dining in fine restaurants, means you are in control and have a life to live.

Those people with a gambling addiction who continue to win and have a good life with their families must be the luckiest gamblers in the world for if they only knew how the gamblers who lost millions look like when they are already homeless, they best stop already before it happens on them.
It's one thing to be gambling addict and absolutely a different thing to be successful in gambling but many people do say that for you to be successful in gambling, you must be a gambling addict.
For one to be successful in gambling, he needs to be strategic and mindful in his gamble dealings and also needs a bit of luck whenever he's gambling while an addict is someone who's been desperate to win in gambling which most times makes them to lose their all their money in gambling and sometimes even sells every valuable they have to gamble

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October 05, 2023, 08:56:00 PM
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Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
For me, I will say that there is a very big difference between an addict and a successful gambler, because just as an addict gambles out of self-control & emotions, a successful gambler on the other hand gamble strictly for business, and as such always try to limit how much lost he gets while increase the profit ratio with time, unlike an addictive gambler who never cares about anything regarding his/her gambling lifestyle, and as such don't mind borrowing & spending more money just to satisfy his craving for gambling at that very moments.

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October 06, 2023, 01:58:55 AM
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Yes, it's true, only a small percentage of gamblers experience success, maybe when they get lucky or win they realize it and can control themselves when they want to gamble again.
Sure that's correct in as much as gambling is concerned there are people who has made a fortune while there are also people who has gambled all there life but nothing to show for it, we no that most persons irrespective of how much money they have won they will still go back for more gambling as such losing all the winnings they made, but perhaps on the contrary there people whom are very experienced and has a sound mentality on gambling were as there targets is just to win and be saving up, these kind of gambling patterns tends to achieve greater things through gambling because I have actually witnessed it myself, I have seen someone that has a lot of properties through the gambling wining he made so that's the reason I said there people who has made money from gambling while there are numerous people who has lost so many things through gambling.
As you said, I have also seen people who gamble, they earn a lot of money and they can also buy whatever they want, and I assume that they gamble responsibly and can control themselves in carrying out their gambling, so they have little money. risk of consequences. That's gambling, even though what I see is that people who gamble fall into poverty and get a lot of debt here and there, because I think they gamble too much, and maybe they get addicted to gambling, so they get big problems in their lives. life. And we can use this as an experience and lesson that every person who is going to gamble must be able to control themselves, a good mentality and good thinking will keep them away from the risks posed by the gambling they do.

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October 06, 2023, 11:07:36 AM
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Perhaps more skilled gamblers have made it big. Remember, skill and chance must be distinguished. Some say they're skilled, but it's often luck.

Let's discuss the pseudo-problem. Why are these successful gamblers hiding if they own casinos and make large profits? Why not brag about their success? Why gamble if they're skilled? They'd keep benefitting from others.

Everyone should remember that for every gambling success story, there are innumerable losses, addictions, and sorrow. Gamble responsibly and realize that it's more amusement than a surefire road to money.
If they are skilled, it is because they learned it to the point of mastering it well. If it is luck, we can only wait for it to come, and it will not come to everyone. Only certain people can get their luck. Successful gamblers may own their casinos, but they hide their identity as casino owners and enjoy their lives peacefully. There is no point in showing off their success because that will only make them enemies.

And it is true that behind success, there are sad stories experienced by each successful person. And if they can learn from the mistakes he made along his journey to success, he will be a successful person. Successful gamblers also learn from their mistakes to become successful gamblers.

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October 06, 2023, 03:33:33 PM
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If they are skilled, it is because they learned it to the point of mastering it well. If it is luck, we can only wait for it to come, and it will not come to everyone. Only certain people can get their luck. Successful gamblers may own their casinos, but they hide their identity as casino owners and enjoy their lives peacefully. There is no point in showing off their success because that will only make them enemies.

And it is true that behind success, there are sad stories experienced by each successful person. And if they can learn from the mistakes he made along his journey to success, he will be a successful person. Successful gamblers also learn from their mistakes to become successful gamblers.

It is always luck, and the odds are against the gambler.

In the rare situation that a gambler ends up winning a large amount, the casino will be quick to give them food and drinks for free so that they stay for as long as possible.

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October 06, 2023, 03:48:20 PM
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If they are skilled, it is because they learned it to the point of mastering it well. If it is luck, we can only wait for it to come, and it will not come to everyone. Only certain people can get their luck. Successful gamblers may own their casinos, but they hide their identity as casino owners and enjoy their lives peacefully. There is no point in showing off their success because that will only make them enemies.

And it is true that behind success, there are sad stories experienced by each successful person. And if they can learn from the mistakes he made along his journey to success, he will be a successful person. Successful gamblers also learn from their mistakes to become successful gamblers.

It is always luck, and the odds are against the gambler.

In the rare situation that a gambler ends up winning a large amount, the casino will be quick to give them food and drinks for free so that they stay for as long as possible.

This depends. Yeah old school casino wants player that winning big to stay longer for a chance to be lose for playing longer but the situation change now since gambler is evolving too and there’s type of games which a gambler can take advantage with a good analysis skills such as sports betting.

The best example is the recent hot topic here about Dana White being restricted to gamble on some casino due to his frequent big win. Casino preferred to kick out the player that giving them losses instead of staying him longer to play. Restricting players that win frequently is the new way of casino ti avoid losses and focus on players that contributes more.

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October 07, 2023, 11:56:42 AM
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It is always luck, and the odds are against the gambler.

In the rare situation that a gambler ends up winning a large amount, the casino will be quick to give them food and drinks for free so that they stay for as long as possible.
It makes gamblers feel comfortable with all the services from the casino so that they will return to gambling and continue playing the previous game. But they should still be able to rest after the previous game so that their emotions can subside and they are ready to play in the next round. If they force themselves to gamble again when their emotions have not really decreased, it will only make them want to chase another win. But this will not happen to successful gamblers because after they win and get money, they will rest, and after they have had enough, they will completely stop gambling and leave the casino.

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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
I would not categorize successful gamblers as people who are addicted to gambling, but in my opinion successful gamblers are those who can manage their finances and are able to control their emotions.
Usually, most of the gambling addicts we meet will not be able to achieve success because if they have won a big win they will definitely place another bigger bet, thinking that by increasing the bet amount they will get a bigger win, but in fact they will end up losing . So we rarely see gambling addicts who are successful due to these factors.

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October 08, 2023, 03:17:23 AM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
I would not categorize successful gamblers as people who are addicted to gambling, but in my opinion successful gamblers are those who can manage their finances and are able to control their emotions.
Usually, most of the gambling addicts we meet will not be able to achieve success because if they have won a big win they will definitely place another bigger bet, thinking that by increasing the bet amount they will get a bigger win, but in fact they will end up losing . So we rarely see gambling addicts who are successful due to these factors.

What exactly is the category of gambling addict this? In my opinion, successful gamblers can also be called addicts because they make money from gambling and spend time playing gambling games, so what is the appropriate term for these people if they are not addicts?
It's just that the addicts I mean are not addicts who harm themselves, those who are successful in gambling are gamblers who are responsible and disciplined, can controls their finances well and can playing the game with the strategy and analysis they have so they can be successful thank to gambling.

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October 08, 2023, 04:15:18 AM
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What exactly is the category of gambling addict this? In my opinion, successful gamblers can also be called addicts because they make money from gambling and spend time playing gambling games, so what is the appropriate term for these people if they are not addicts?
It's just that the addicts I mean are not addicts who harm themselves, those who are successful in gambling are gamblers who are responsible and disciplined, can controls their finances well and can playing the game with the strategy and analysis they have so they can be successful thank to gambling.
We really have to separate an addict from a hobby or habit. Addicts are more suited to behavior that harms themselves and even others around them. We can also consider excessive activity as an addiction. those who lose track of time get angry when told to stop.
Those who have control over what they do themselves and also know when to quit and when to continue playing cannot be called addicts.

In gambling, we can see how gambling addicts cannot be responsible for the decisions they make themselves.

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