Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[junder]

Well, success is measured in many different ways, and I have given that in the thread, the things they think and everything how they express it because of their way of thinking is good, but personally I am a bit more direct, for For me, a person who considers himself successful is someone who always wins every day at the casino, that is, if he plays for 1 hour today and comes out with a positive balance, well, if he plays 3 times a day and comes out with profits, it seems to me that he is a similar success, But if it is measured in weeks or months that the general balance of the person in the game is positive balance, for me he is a successful person in the casino, for me there is no other definition of a successful person except for him to play and win, of The rest is an average player who probably has wins and losses where losses predominate, that is for me a normal player, of course it sounds a bit eo, because up to that point I include myself too, but just as in tading there are successful people doing it, too In the casino there must be very lucky people who always win.

In another order of ideas, we can meet people who can spend all day in a casino gambling and when we go to the casino they are always there, and well it is something that seems quite strange to us because it is something that is not very common, however when we We review things well, those types of people play throughout the day, sometimes they win, other times they lose, but I know that they are in a casino all day and they win, but they are there all day long, I wouldn't call them addicts, because addicted gamblers They usually lose and that is something that is not considered a success but quite the opposite, so in this type of thing we must be very emphatic and say things like they mean, if I am in a casino all day I leave without money If I can consider myself addicted because it is something that I always lose, I don't bring good results and that is a bad thing, that will eventually bring me problems and that is what we want to avoid.

So if you think like that, is it possible that there are people who are always lucky in every gambling, with the fact that they often play 3 times a day and always win? if I think that people who have luck in gambling will also not get a continuous victory, there are times when they lose and go home with negative results, or people who get a big win but only once can be called hockey? If there are people who always win at every game and always go home with a positive balance, they are very lucky. because surely the winnings they get exceed the capital they deposit. and if that's the case, does he have a trick to always get a win at gambling? so he can always get a win.

someone who is in the casino all day doesn't mean they are addicted, they could just be watching. but if they are just watching I don't think it's possible either, of course they bring a certain amount of money to bet by trying their luck, winning or losing is no one can predict if in gambling because it is difficult to make sure the victory will be easy to get. because gambling also has a random system, I've read in another tread that someone said, "the chances of winning in physical casino gambling are greater, than online gambling". whether that's true or not, what do you think?

I consider that things when it comes to doing better things in casinos, it may be that a person is in the casino all day, looking, playing, but you have to see both things, if you are in a casino just looking, you will Your time is up, you just don't take risks, you don't lose anything, you just watch the game, I don't think you are learning strategies, or maybe, swi, if so, because the techniques in the casinos, in their games, are very few , and that is learned quickly, in addition, I consider that a person's playing time in a casino should be brief, if he won, then he won, if he lost, then accept and accept defeat, in this sense things can be like that, and not there is a need to play all day, now if the person makes small bets throughout the day, well that is something else, everything changes, of course this is something that depends on the people, I actually like to play in a casino, I enjoy the time I spend there and I can dearly believe that it is pleasant. I compare it when I go to the soccer stadium to see my favorite team, or my national team, because it is like entering another world, and you have to enjoy that.

Now, if the person likes something else, like socializing, the atmosphere, the music that the casino offers, then that is another thing, and that is something that the person enjoys as such and it does not mean that he is an addict and That also means that it is something normal, maybe it is like that, but I think that when it comes to doing more the moments in the casinos should be brief, if you play longer term I don't think you are going to win more, We must always remember the advantage of this as it is a fact, now, between the traditional casinos and the online ones, is that physical casinos are not going to require any KYC and that is something that sounds like a great advantage and something that does not It will make you angry, because the money is instantaneous that they will give it to you, on the other hand, the disadvantage that online casinos have is that you can play from home in peace, but I think that to win more or less in some cases, for me the possibilities are the same.

My question is, why would I go to a casino if it's just to watch or see? Isn't that a pointless thing to do?
Even if I go to the casino I will gamble with the budget I have, because if it's just to watch, I think it's better to stay at home than to go to the casino just to watch, it should be like that, gambling that is done must be responded properly and correctly where if you win immediately withdraw it, and if you lose just stop and leave. do not force also to continue gambling because it is not necessarily going to benefit us, so I think it is better to leave the casino when you get a win and when you get a loss is the same, do not stay too long in the casino with so much budget because the possibility we could be tempted by the games in the casino and make the budget that is brought up all up, this must be avoided because of course it will harm us, but if indeed from home already intends to bring or spend a lot of money in casino gambling, that's up, I also do not prohibit it because that is their respective rights. However, gambling must be enjoyed in its flow because if we respond to it as entertainment it will not cause big problems, but try if you respond to it wrongly it means that there will be problems that come, there are also many who have become victims, so gambling properly don't overdo it, excessive gambling is the same as killing yourself.

Would someone who likes socializing, the atmosphere, and music go to a casino just for that?
I don't think so, because it's impossible to go to a casino if the purpose is just for that, chances are they will bring money even if it's a little, because it doesn't make sense for  someone to go to a casino with that purpose, music can be everywhere, especially now that cell phones make everything easy, music, files, video games. everything can be done with  just a cell phone. honestly I can't gamble for a long time, because I myself have a sense of boredom that  changes easily, so in a matter of minutes I will also get bored easily with gambling, so I never gamble for a long time. Yes, it is true that physical casinos do not require KYC in contrast to online casinos which require KYC for one of the requirements to be able to gamble online, but it cannot be hidden, people who gamble online now are not small so many people do online gambling because it is easy  to do with the cellphone that we have and wherever we want. I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not. but I'm sure it's a good idea to have a good idea of what you're getting yourself into and what you're getting yourself into.

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[Obari]

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Before this question would be answered we need to agree on our definition of a successful gambler. Now the question is, who is a successful gambler? If we know this, we will examine whether successful gamblers can be called addicts.

Who is a successful gambler

• Someone who does nothing else to earn a living apart from gambling 
• Someone who has more wins than losses in gambling
• Someone who regulates himself, and knows when to gamble and when to stop gambling 
• Someone who has spent good number of years in gambling and still gambling
• Any other definition of yourself?   

We can take it up from here, once I have a reply.

Many people can relate to being a successful gambler in different ways. But in my opinion successful gamblers are those who have good gambling experience and use that experience to get positive results in their gambling. Hence only those who win more in gambling I would not say that they are successful gamblers but a successful gambler can make relatively good decisions. He can stop if necessary. He gets positive results in applying his techniques. Successful gamblers are those who can take active risks with long-term good decision-making and, above all, maintain a profitable position.

This is a typical example of money stops nonsense because a rich gambler will be hard to be addressed as an addict but the reverse is the case with struggling gambler as every move made might be seen as addiction and I also agree with @GigaBit that success in gambling can be seen from different perspectives just as success in life can be seen from different perspectives and to me, been successful has to do with making major profits and wins against losses, ability to know when to stop, and ability to control one’s gambling greed and staying profitable in the field and if one has all this qualities then such a person should be seen and address as been successful regardless of how much they make provided it surpasses their losses.

[EarnOnVictor]

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In my opinion, gambling addiction has nothing to do with the success of the gambler. Based on the mathematical analysis of gambling in the long term almost every gambler will lose to the casino or bookmaker. What success are you talking about? We are all well aware that gambling is not a job, which means in this area will not be able to earn consistently. Today you are successful, and tomorrow you lose everything. Or am I wrong?

Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling because they are always patient and keep gambling patiently without panicking and do not gamble for a long time together, gamble with a break and cool and withdraw immediately if they get a big win. Because they know very well that if they keep gambling like that, they will eventually lose them all. And panic gamblers always want to get rich quickly, which is why they quickly exhaust their gambling budget by placing high-amount single bets and re-deposit.  In this way they suffer huge losses financially and they can never be successful

What good praises for successful gamblers! But you are indeed wrong, successful gamblers are the most addicted if you must know, but the only difference is that since they are making money from it, they don't care about the addiction and will even love to do it more. And guess what? People will also encourage them to gamble since it's not negative for them. Money-making avenue will always be an excellent avenue for everyone, it's only when you are investing your money but you are losing that caution would be exercised by you, if wise, or people advising you in this regard. This one again reveals that losers are the ones that people get to focus their beam at and to talk down on and say all sorts of bad remarks about, simply because they do not show any good result for what they are doing. This is unlike the winners, just like you are praising them now, they show good results for it to the point that you do not see the addiction therein. We often overlook the things we do that give money since it cannot affect our life negatively even if we are addicted to them, but can't still stop us from relating it to addiction even if it's positive. Everyone however wants a positive addiction, after all, they have nothing to lose doing it.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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In my opinion, gambling addiction has nothing to do with the success of the gambler. Based on the mathematical analysis of gambling in the long term almost every gambler will lose to the casino or bookmaker. What success are you talking about? We are all well aware that gambling is not a job, which means in this area will not be able to earn consistently. Today you are successful, and tomorrow you lose everything. Or am I wrong?

Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling because they are always patient and keep gambling patiently without panicking and do not gamble for a long time together, gamble with a break and cool and withdraw immediately if they get a big win. Because they know very well that if they keep gambling like that, they will eventually lose them all. And panic gamblers always want to get rich quickly, which is why they quickly exhaust their gambling budget by placing high-amount single bets and re-deposit.  In this way they suffer huge losses financially and they can never be successful

What good praises for successful gamblers! But you are indeed wrong, successful gamblers are the most addicted if you must know, but the only difference is that since they are making money from it, they don't care about the addiction and will even love to do it more. And guess what? People will also encourage them to gamble since it's not negative for them. Money-making avenue will always be an excellent avenue for everyone, it's only when you are investing your money but you are losing that caution would be exercised by you, if wise, or people advising you in this regard. This one again reveals that losers are the ones that people get to focus their beam at and to talk down on and say all sorts of bad remarks about, simply because they do not show any good result for what they are doing. This is unlike the winners, just like you are praising them now, they show good results for it to the point that you do not see the addiction therein. We often overlook the things we do that give money since it cannot affect our life negatively even if we are addicted to them, but can't still stop us from relating it to addiction even if it's positive. Everyone however wants a positive addiction, after all, they have nothing to lose doing it.

Well, I have a very special concept about this, for me, when you try to do things well in a casino, it's about winning money, when you don't win money, well, that's where things get lost, when a person is addicted to the general thing. He has money problems, problems with his friends, and with his own family, because everyone realizes what an addicted person does, an addicted person always allows himself to be carried away by other things, first of all he is a person who does not care if someone comes to him For there something taken, that is not fixed or anything, because his money was spent in the casino so that is something very bad and negative, the friends that you can supposedly consider as friends, because they will not be next to a person who is like this , there are only a few who come forward to help, to make them get out of that, so I could say that things are quite strong at the moment that they are going to be seen in the wrong way, I say, a person who is in the casino most of hours in the day but he comes out with money, for me he is a successful person, there is no other way.

A person who is in a casino and doesn't win money, well, first of all, he is not successful, I don't know if he is addicted because he has the money for everything but he plays little in the game and he likes the atmosphere of a casino, well, that's a whole thing, maybe Maybe he uses the casino to make some interpersonal relationships, it is normal, however I think that all this goes down to what the person is like, a person who knows a lot about the game but still loses money, for me it is not successful, For me the most important thing in a casino is money, money is everything in the casino, in fact everything has to do with money, with money you can play whatever you want, without money you can't do anything, what The only thing you can do is play online and that with fictitious money, but that is a practice that very few do, secrecy is simply having money and trying to increase it.

[Quidat]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Before this question would be answered we need to agree on our definition of a successful gambler. Now the question is, who is a successful gambler? If we know this, we will examine whether successful gamblers can be called addicts.

Who is a successful gambler

• Someone who does nothing else to earn a living apart from gambling 
• Someone who has more wins than losses in gambling
• Someone who regulates himself, and knows when to gamble and when to stop gambling 
• Someone who has spent good number of years in gambling and still gambling
• Any other definition of yourself?   

We can take it up from here, once I have a reply.

Many people can relate to being a successful gambler in different ways. But in my opinion successful gamblers are those who have good gambling experience and use that experience to get positive results in their gambling. Hence only those who win more in gambling I would not say that they are successful gamblers but a successful gambler can make relatively good decisions. He can stop if necessary. He gets positive results in applying his techniques. Successful gamblers are those who can take active risks with long-term good decision-making and, above all, maintain a profitable position.

But im so sure that those gamblers did really turn out to be a gambling addict once into their overall journey with gambling. We cant really be that so sure though but we can really actually
say that there comes a time that they do really that become too impulsive.We cant really be so sure since not all people would really be that the same when it comes to self control on which there are ones who are really that good when it comes to discipline and there are ones who do really fail on doing so. This is why we cant really be able to conclude out that they are ones those addicts too.

It is really just that people would be assuming it out, but eventually if we do really try to be realistic on the things which are happening on which
if a gambler turns out to be already on professional state then you are really that able to overcome on whatever problems that you had encountered in the past.

[Obari]

if a gambler turns out to be already on professional state then you are really that able to overcome on whatever problems that you had encountered in the past.

Though I didn’t get your message very clear, I think you’re trying to say that for one to be a professional and successful gambler, then he or she should be able to have the abilities to over come the challenges encountered in the past and if that be the case then I also agree with you and that most times, to be successful has some disciplines one has to keep which also includes risk and greed management, ability to know when to play and when not to play and ability to control emotions in gambling.

[usekevin]

This is a typical example of money stops nonsense because a rich gambler will be hard to be addressed as an addict but the reverse is the case with struggling gambler as every move made might be seen as addiction and I also agree with @GigaBit that success in gambling can be seen from different perspectives just as success in life can be seen from different perspectives and to me, been successful has to do with making major profits and wins against losses, ability to know when to stop, and ability to control one’s gambling greed and staying profitable in the field and if one has all this qualities then such a person should be seen and address as been successful regardless of how much they make provided it surpasses their losses.

The rich gambler was not addressed to an addict,the thing is the gambler who get rich using the gambling was addressed to the addicted person.The words doesn’t matter in the real life,at least they was settled by the gambling.Because many gamblers was reporting many websites after finding them as the scam one.Only few are successful and survive long in the forum itself.If the gamblers get addicted,mostly he suppose to loss the many.With my knowledge not the addicted person get rich using the gambling site,the person who developed their skill to gambling was the successful person most of the time.

Though I didn’t get your message very clear, I think you’re trying to say that for one to be a professional and successful gambler, then he or she should be able to have the abilities to over come the challenges encountered in the past and if that be the case then I also agree with you and that most times, to be successful has some disciplines one has to keep which also includes risk and greed management, ability to know when to play and when not to play and ability to control emotions in gambling.

The gambler who was successful by the big win in the gambling site was seems as the gambling addict by the OP words.The gamblers should learn the money management on playing the games in the gambling site,he should pause the game if they suppose to loss the funds.Continuous playing of games will leads to loss of full money in the gambling site.The successful gamblers will play for shorter duration.

[Kavelj22]

There are people who are obsessed to learn more about the game that they are playing, they will do everything to succeed and once they did that
it can be use as advantage, we tag those people as expert gamblers.

They manage to study things that will give them that edge against their opponents, card games like poker is an example of this game.

Experienced players use that advantage to read people's body movements even facial expressions, things that may add up on how they
will deal their cards and most of the time they manage to win.

Can you tell me how many people you know who make all the effort that could earn them the title of “expert gambler”? I admitted that there were many of them, but as a "gambling addicts" and not as a specialists.

The explanation is simple: anyone who uses his abilities to win only in a gambling betting game based primarily on luck is at a relatively advanced stage of addiction compared to the majority of others. This is important to note in order to differentiate between playing a sport that requires effort and a game whose results and analyzes depend on pure luck.

Whoever refuses to employ his mathematical and mental skills in a useful productive matter instead of employing them in betting on the possibility of winning a competitor in a game that most often depends on luck, is certainly an addicted gambler without a doubt.

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The successful gamblers will play for shorter duration.

does this mean that a successful gambler is a gambler who can know when the time is right?
of course a successful gambler is a gambler who has had many bad experiences in the past and and he learns from the bad to become a better gambler and if the gambler is able to control it of course he can be called a successful gambler. It's just that in this definition, success means being successful in controlling oneself not to lose too much and if you get a profit, you won't have the greed to stop betting.
and on the one hand, successful gamblers are always able to manage their finances and can even set the right time to gamble and the right time to stop gambling, but these gamblers also have various strategies to be able to gain profits from gambling, choose the type of bet that does not rely on luck and choose a type of gambling that relies on skill.
so that if a successful gambler can control himself and choose the right type of bet or choose a type of bet that depends on skill, he will definitely become a professional gambler without addiction.

but it is very difficult to become a successful gambler because there are so many temptations that make us tempted and forget the rules that have been made and this means that to become a successful gambler is very difficult, it requires high commitment and strong determination to be able to achieve what we want as long as we being able to control it and learn from previous mistakes can definitely become a professional gambler or a successful gambler in every way.

[Accardo]

Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling because they are always patient and keep gambling patiently without panicking and do not gamble for a long time together, gamble with a break and cool and withdraw immediately if they get a big win. Because they know very well that if they keep gambling like that, they will eventually lose them all. And panic gamblers always want to get rich quickly, which is why they quickly exhaust their gambling budget by placing high-amount single bets and re-deposit.  In this way they suffer huge losses financially and they can never be successful

What good praises for successful gamblers! But you are indeed wrong, successful gamblers are the most addicted if you must know, but the only difference is that since they are making money from it, they don't care about the addiction and will even love to do it more. And guess what? People will also encourage them to gamble since it's not negative for them. Money-making avenue will always be an excellent avenue for everyone, it's only when you are investing your money but you are losing that caution would be exercised by you, if wise, or people advising you in this regard. This one again reveals that losers are the ones that people get to focus their beam at and to talk down on and say all sorts of bad remarks about, simply because they do not show any good result for what they are doing. This is unlike the winners, just like you are praising them now, they show good results for it to the point that you do not see the addiction therein. We often overlook the things we do that give money since it cannot affect our life negatively even if we are addicted to them, but can't still stop us from relating it to addiction even if it's positive. Everyone however wants a positive addiction, after all, they have nothing to lose doing it.

Gambling success depends on so many factors which isn't concerned with the way you describe the winners, Victor. Being a successful gambler doesn't mean the player has to win every single moment he gambles. Most time they still lose money, but have a way of dealing with risks. When a gambler is successful he has nothing to do with addiction. If he gets addicted then he is not successful in gambling. Those who appear as successful gamblers like in any other department, are the gamblers who issue advice on gambling addiction and also lecture other gamblers on different strategies needed to bypass too many risk factors in gambling. They're mostly authors and also go on tour with some TV shows that ask them gambling questions. Most of them are famous for winning at a certain time big prizes through gambling.

Coming to the idea that follows your response, it's wrong to think that every loser is addicted to gambling, the same way the winners are. Any gambler in both categories, addicted or not, still has a chance of winning. Indeed nobody wants a loser, but winners who are addicted will have no reason to be successful in gambling because it has to do with mental problems. Whenever a person is mentally ill, is worse than physically illness. Don't misplace consistent gambling as an addiction. They're both different things, visiting a specific place every day maybe your workplace doesn't mean you can't do without visiting that place. Most people you see win money through gambling, fine will want to be consistent, but someday they go on a gambling vacation. Where they'll never have a reason to gambler for some months. Addicted players can't do it, as their brain has been disordered and only knows gambling. Which draws a line of difference between a successful gambler and an addicted one.

[EarnOnVictor]

Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling because they are always patient and keep gambling patiently without panicking and do not gamble for a long time together, gamble with a break and cool and withdraw immediately if they get a big win. Because they know very well that if they keep gambling like that, they will eventually lose them all. And panic gamblers always want to get rich quickly, which is why they quickly exhaust their gambling budget by placing high-amount single bets and re-deposit.  In this way they suffer huge losses financially and they can never be successful

What good praises for successful gamblers! But you are indeed wrong, successful gamblers are the most addicted if you must know, but the only difference is that since they are making money from it, they don't care about the addiction and will even love to do it more. And guess what? People will also encourage them to gamble since it's not negative for them. Money-making avenue will always be an excellent avenue for everyone, it's only when you are investing your money but you are losing that caution would be exercised by you, if wise, or people advising you in this regard. This one again reveals that losers are the ones that people get to focus their beam at and to talk down on and say all sorts of bad remarks about, simply because they do not show any good result for what they are doing. This is unlike the winners, just like you are praising them now, they show good results for it to the point that you do not see the addiction therein. We often overlook the things we do that give money since it cannot affect our life negatively even if we are addicted to them, but can't still stop us from relating it to addiction even if it's positive. Everyone however wants a positive addiction, after all, they have nothing to lose doing it.

Gambling success depends on so many factors which isn't concerned with the way you describe the winners, Victor. Being a successful gambler doesn't mean the player has to win every single moment he gambles. Most time they still lose money, but have a way of dealing with risks. When a gambler is successful he has nothing to do with addiction. If he gets addicted then he is not successful in gambling. Those who appear as successful gamblers like in any other department, are the gamblers who issue advice on gambling addiction and also lecture other gamblers on different strategies needed to bypass too many risk factors in gambling. They're mostly authors and also go on tour with some TV shows that ask them gambling questions. Most of them are famous for winning at a certain time big prizes through gambling.
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I was surprised reading your post, it clearly shows that you didn't get the gist I narrated in what you replied to. I can't be so daft to say that gamblers can be winning all their bets, how? Are they some kind of gods? No No. Consistent winning is different from winning every bet, it only means that the gambler has more winning than losing periodically, and it depends on how you will now define that period. As for the subject itself, what I was trying to establish is that both winners and losers can be addicted to gambling, but for the fact that the addiction of the losers is negative to them and the people around them, they and people get to be discouraged and stigmatised respectively. This is why they look down on them and are finding mean to be cured of this addiction because it is rather wasting their money and there is no hope for them to gain.

Such people are being related to gambling addiction alone just because it's negative for them, but it's not so. Gambling addicts also include those who are gambling and gaining consistently, which includes those who can't do without gambling even as they do it for fun. If these last two categories continue to gamble and do not abuse it, they are fine with it as it is positive to them (earning and fun). The first category gets to make money consistently in gambling and loves to gamble every day and places it as a priority over any other thing. Is that not an addiction? Even if the second category that loves to gamble for fun takes it as the sole or main hobby and prioritises it more than anything else and does it every time, is that not an addiction as well? But because it doesn't negatively affect their lifestyle, people often don't talk about the positive addiction. You can see that it's for the obvious reason people are silent about the positive addicts, but indeed they are addicts too, but the addicts that do not call for a concern (positive).

[Accardo]

Gambling success depends on so many factors which isn't concerned with the way you describe the winners, Victor. Being a successful gambler doesn't mean the player has to win every single moment he gambles. Most time they still lose money, but have a way of dealing with risks. When a gambler is successful he has nothing to do with addiction. If he gets addicted then he is not successful in gambling. Those who appear as successful gamblers like in any other department, are the gamblers who issue advice on gambling addiction and also lecture other gamblers on different strategies needed to bypass too many risk factors in gambling. They're mostly authors and also go on tour with some TV shows that ask them gambling questions. Most of them are famous for winning at a certain time big prizes through gambling.
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I was surprised reading your post, it clearly shows that you didn't get the gist I narrated in what you replied to. I can't be so daft to say that gamblers can be winning all their bets, how? Are they some kind of gods? No No. Consistent winning is different from winning every bet, it only means that the gambler has more winning than losing periodically, and it depends on how you will now define that period. As for the subject itself, what I was trying to establish is that both winners and losers can be addicted to gambling, but for the fact that the addiction of the losers is negative to them and the people around them, they and people get to be discouraged and stigmatised respectively. This is why they look down on them and are finding mean to be cured of this addiction because it is rather wasting their money and there is no hope for them to gain.

Such people are being related to gambling addiction alone just because it's negative for them, but it's not so. Gambling addicts also include those who are gambling and gaining consistently, which includes those who can't do without gambling even as they do it for fun. If these last two categories continue to gamble and do not abuse it, they are fine with it as it is positive to them (earning and fun). The first category gets to make money consistently in gambling and loves to gamble every day and places it as a priority over any other thing. Is that not an addiction? Even if the second category that loves to gamble for fun takes it as the sole or main hobby and prioritises it more than anything else and does it every time, is that not an addiction as well? But because it doesn't negatively affect their lifestyle, people often don't talk about the positive addiction. You can see that it's for the obvious reason people are silent about the positive addicts, but indeed they are addicts too, but the addicts that do not call for a concern (positive).

No, that's not addiction, and you made some misconceptions in your words narrative about those in the second category. First, you said they can't do without gambling, yes, it's addiction. In the bold section of the narrative you changed the wording, and with that narrative, the player shouldn't be considered an addict for enjoying gambling and consistently gambling. But his actions can still be questioned for prioritizing gambling over other things, we all have utilities we prioritize more than others, yet it doesn't mean we can't substitute them easily. In your last lines, you still repeated the same mistake which I'd want you to remove from your mindset. They've never been a positive addiction. Addiction can also be called problem gambling. Are you saying mental illness is positive? Whenever a person is addicted to anything they can't be in control of what they're doing. The results of their actions would be negative at all times. Don't get it twisted, the addicts can win at some point, but it doesn't at any point make addiction positive.

Other than that because a gambler who still is under control of their gambling habit, but only loves participating in gambling every day doesn't make him an addict. Addiction is addiction and it can only be negative for a person to be addicted to anything, drugs, gambling, etc. Would you also say that there is a positive side to drug addiction because the person still makes money as an addict? You know quite well that the addicted gambler after winning would still waste the money in gambling. Then he'll have to battle with his mental disorder, which could lead to a more severe problem in the life of the gambler. Instead of calling such gamblers addicts, the best name allocated to them is responsible gamblers. They're not compulsive gamblers, like I said earlier, they can still go months without gambling. Because they do it for fun and participate every day doesn't make any changes in their mental health. That's why people tend to respect them, as they don't misbehave, rather they paint a good name to the act of gambling. Addiction has no positivity.

[dansus021]

I have never seen anyone who was successful at gambling as a player.

Except in movies tho hehehe but I saw a short video on Instagram which said that there are people who are successful or win big at gambling and casinos who give VIP bonuses, namely an apartment and car that can be used as much as you like.

in the video they say that the purpose of their VIP bonus is to tempt them into gambling the money they have won so that they become addicted, but what the person who won did was different, he was not addicted at all, instead he enjoyed what the casino gave him until he was banned by the casino. That.

so the point is I don't think the player is addicted. and since the story from instagram reels I don't know if the story is legit or not

[Belarge]

I have never seen anyone who was successful at gambling as a player.

Except in movies tho hehehe but I saw a short video on Instagram which said that there are people who are successful or win big at gambling and casinos who give VIP bonuses, namely an apartment and car that can be used as much as you like.

in the video they say that the purpose of their VIP bonus is to tempt them into gambling the money they have won so that they become addicted, but what the person who won did was different, he was not addicted at all, instead he enjoyed what the casino gave him until he was banned by the casino. That.

so the point is I don't think the player is addicted. and since the story from instagram reels I don't know if the story is legit or not

Who cares if the Instagram reels watched is legit or not, what matters is the content we tried to understand and ensure not to use specific means that we're not confident about, rather we keen on lecturing ourselves and gaining the basic information we need. Addicts do exists in the system and also we have those set of gamblers that make crucial strategies for the purpose to enchanced their chances of winning in the system. It's never easy to watch how these gamblers climb from the top and the ones that shoot to the top.

[Rufsilf]

I have never seen anyone who was successful at gambling as a player.

Except in movies tho hehehe but I saw a short video on Instagram which said that there are people who are successful or win big at gambling and casinos who give VIP bonuses, namely an apartment and car that can be used as much as you like.

in the video they say that the purpose of their VIP bonus is to tempt them into gambling the money they have won so that they become addicted, but what the person who won did was different, he was not addicted at all, instead he enjoyed what the casino gave him until he was banned by the casino. That.

so the point is I don't think the player is addicted. and since the story from instagram reels I don't know if the story is legit or not

Wins in games might be considered successful gambling, and of course, it's not necessarily a success when you lose. I see some gamblers who are very skilled and they eventually mastered the art of gambling to the point that they play very consistently and they will be able to win.

 There are also other gamblers who played gambling because it is to temporarily distracts them from reality and it is also a way to escape from stress, emotional pain, or whatever problems they have in life. Which is why some gamblers instantly generate thoughts such as "I won in the past, I must win again, or if I lose, I must take back what I lost." where their brain was releasing dopamine which it associated with pleasure and motivation.

As for the Instagram videos, yeah I also encountered that kind of advertisement and honestly, it’s really temping to try but I don’t know if it is legit or not so I do not care of it at all . It’s like a bait for us gambler's you know.

[bangjoe]

if a gambler turns out to be already on professional state then you are really that able to overcome on whatever problems that you had encountered in the past.

Though I didn’t get your message very clear, I think you’re trying to say that for one to be a professional and successful gambler, then he or she should be able to have the abilities to over come the challenges encountered in the past and if that be the case then I also agree with you and that most times, to be successful has some disciplines one has to keep which also includes risk and greed management, ability to know when to play and when not to play and ability to control emotions in gambling.

Maybe there are people who have mentioned from the many replys, I just want to know who and where people who can succeed from the career of a gambler, who and where he is, I want to find out. People who can undermine discipline, sacrifice their energy and time to achieve success in gambling.

Maybe you as the OP have read it and classified it in several gambling segments, if I may want to find out.

[slapper]

I have never seen anyone who was successful at gambling as a player.

Except in movies tho hehehe but I saw a short video on Instagram which said that there are people who are successful or win big at gambling and casinos who give VIP bonuses, namely an apartment and car that can be used as much as you like.

in the video they say that the purpose of their VIP bonus is to tempt them into gambling the money they have won so that they become addicted, but what the person who won did was different, he was not addicted at all, instead he enjoyed what the casino gave him until he was banned by the casino. That.

so the point is I don't think the player is addicted. and since the story from instagram reels I don't know if the story is legit or not

You need to read more than just those Instagram tales. There are real success stories in gambling – yes, they exist! They're not just lies to get likes on social media. People who approach gambling with strategy, discipline, and a bit of luck have made it big. People who play poker professionally, bet on sports like it's science, and play blackjack like they're scientists when they count cards. These are not fairy tales; these are real people who have made gambling an art! I agree with you about one thing: a lot of those Instagram clips aren't real. They act like they live a glamorous life, but most of the time it's all a show. We need to be smart about this. You have every right to doubt their credibility. You know those stories about how casinos give away cars and flats like candy? They're more about seduction than truth. The real point of gambling is to have fun, feel thrills, and take on challenges. Smart and skilled play is what it's all about, not getting sucked in by free stuff.

[nullama]

I have never seen anyone who was successful at gambling as a player.

Except in movies tho hehehe but I saw a short video on Instagram which said that there are people who are successful or win big at gambling and casinos who give VIP bonuses, namely an apartment and car that can be used as much as you like.

in the video they say that the purpose of their VIP bonus is to tempt them into gambling the money they have won so that they become addicted, but what the person who won did was different, he was not addicted at all, instead he enjoyed what the casino gave him until he was banned by the casino. That.

so the point is I don't think the player is addicted. and since the story from instagram reels I don't know if the story is legit or not

The reality is that those VIP players simply are putting so much money into the casinos that it's good for the business to keep them happy with perks.

The VIPs are VIPs because they bring so much money to them. Most stores do the same really, VIP treatment for customers who are paying a lot of money to them. Nothing new.

Just think about it, do you really think that a casino that is losing lots and lots of money will give that gambler perks? no. They would probably add security to them or ban them 

[dansus021]

You need to read more than just those Instagram tales. There are real success stories in gambling – yes, they exist! They're not just lies to get likes on social media. People who approach gambling with strategy, discipline, and a bit of luck have made it big. People who play poker professionally, bet on sports like it's science, and play blackjack like they're scientists when they count cards. These are not fairy tales; these are real people who have made gambling an art! I agree with you about one thing: a lot of those Instagram clips aren't real. They act like they live a glamorous life, but most of the time it's all a show. We need to be smart about this. You have every right to doubt their credibility. You know those stories about how casinos give away cars and flats like candy? They're more about seduction than truth. The real point of gambling is to have fun, feel thrills, and take on challenges. Smart and skilled play is what it's all about, not getting sucked in by free stuff.

because I like gambling content now Instagram algorithm gives me a bunch of new videos and some of them are exactly just like you have said. he played card blackjack and poker and he actually won a thousand dollars in couple of hours. I don't know maybe he only posts their winning or he really a successful gambler

[EarnOnVictor]

Gambling success depends on so many factors which isn't concerned with the way you describe the winners, Victor. Being a successful gambler doesn't mean the player has to win every single moment he gambles. Most time they still lose money, but have a way of dealing with risks. When a gambler is successful he has nothing to do with addiction. If he gets addicted then he is not successful in gambling. Those who appear as successful gamblers like in any other department, are the gamblers who issue advice on gambling addiction and also lecture other gamblers on different strategies needed to bypass too many risk factors in gambling. They're mostly authors and also go on tour with some TV shows that ask them gambling questions. Most of them are famous for winning at a certain time big prizes through gambling.
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I was surprised reading your post, it clearly shows that you didn't get the gist I narrated in what you replied to. I can't be so daft to say that gamblers can be winning all their bets, how? Are they some kind of gods? No No. Consistent winning is different from winning every bet, it only means that the gambler has more winning than losing periodically, and it depends on how you will now define that period. As for the subject itself, what I was trying to establish is that both winners and losers can be addicted to gambling, but for the fact that the addiction of the losers is negative to them and the people around them, they and people get to be discouraged and stigmatised respectively. This is why they look down on them and are finding mean to be cured of this addiction because it is rather wasting their money and there is no hope for them to gain.

Such people are being related to gambling addiction alone just because it's negative for them, but it's not so. Gambling addicts also include those who are gambling and gaining consistently, which includes those who can't do without gambling even as they do it for fun. If these last two categories continue to gamble and do not abuse it, they are fine with it as it is positive to them (earning and fun). The first category gets to make money consistently in gambling and loves to gamble every day and places it as a priority over any other thing. Is that not an addiction? Even if the second category that loves to gamble for fun takes it as the sole or main hobby and prioritises it more than anything else and does it every time, is that not an addiction as well? But because it doesn't negatively affect their lifestyle, people often don't talk about the positive addiction. You can see that it's for the obvious reason people are silent about the positive addicts, but indeed they are addicts too, but the addicts that do not call for a concern (positive).

No, that's not addiction, and you made some misconceptions in your words narrative about those in the second category. First, you said they can't do without gambling, yes, it's addiction. In the bold section of the narrative you changed the wording, and with that narrative, the player shouldn't be considered an addict for enjoying gambling and consistently gambling. But his actions can still be questioned for prioritizing gambling over other things, we all have utilities we prioritize more than others, yet it doesn't mean we can't substitute them easily. In your last lines, you still repeated the same mistake which I'd want you to remove from your mindset. They've never been a positive addiction. Addiction can also be called problem gambling. Are you saying mental illness is positive? Whenever a person is addicted to anything they can't be in control of what they're doing. The results of their actions would be negative at all times. Don't get it twisted, the addicts can win at some point, but it doesn't at any point make addiction positive.

Other than that because a gambler who still is under control of their gambling habit, but only loves participating in gambling every day doesn't make him an addict. Addiction is addiction and it can only be negative for a person to be addicted to anything, drugs, gambling, etc. Would you also say that there is a positive side to drug addiction because the person still makes money as an addict? You know quite well that the addicted gambler after winning would still waste the money in gambling. Then he'll have to battle with his mental disorder, which could lead to a more severe problem in the life of the gambler. Instead of calling such gamblers addicts, the best name allocated to them is responsible gamblers. They're not compulsive gamblers, like I said earlier, they can still go months without gambling. Because they do it for fun and participate every day doesn't make any changes in their mental health. That's why people tend to respect them, as they don't misbehave, rather they paint a good name to the act of gambling. Addiction has no positivity.

Well, let me first say I appreciate your time to make your opinion known, after all, we are all contributing here. But at times, if it's getting to this point of ours, I think it's wise for either of us to go external to research this to ascertain the truth. You know, at times, if we limit it to our understanding alone, we might never move forward in understanding. When I first saw your reply, truly, I was shocked because you are the only one who refuted what I wrote, others agreed to it. And this can only be for a reason, you might not actually know that it is pointing to, even if it is confusing, and whether you like it or not, if a thing is right, nothing can change that fact. When I was replying to you, I never checked for any external articles until our posts had gone back and forth replies. Thereafter, I resorted to external knowledge, and fortunately, I was sided in this argument. It's not about who is wrong or right now but eventually establishing a fact. However, the truth as the case may be, I believe the links below should shed more light on this. Maybe you don't know the meaning of addiction itself. it's the feelings for anything you like to do often and when missed you don't feel good about it. If you can agree that gambling is addictive even people, at the same time some people will always run to it for either fun or money, and this same gambling can make this person lose (negative aspect). It also makes some people win consistently (positive). How do you now entirely say all addictions are bad (negative)? Is this not plain enough? You might want to make your research far or near, it will not change the fact that there are also positive addictions, and all addictions cannot be negative, it's only the negative part that people often focus on and abuse due to its harmful side. But for positive addiction, since it doesn't affect negatively, people often forget about it while some don't even give it a thought at all.

Frankly, I don't know why you relate this to drugs whatsoever, it further shows you do not understand what we are saying here. Drugs can never be positive to anyone, for what temporary gains which will subside over time and will continue to take hold of the victim and ruin the system and brain of the person unless the supervised ones and the ones they use in medicine? Common! Is gambling like that without any positive stories? Can't gambling earn you money? We are talking about gambling and positive addiction, you had better leave drugs out of it, and all those dangerous things that negate positivity which is the context here.


Useful notes:




[1] https://mpowerwellness.com/healthy-addictions/
[2] Positive addiction]

Conclusively, you can relate the below links and the images thereof to whether or not there is a positive addiction. You can naturally relate them to gambling since they are not gambling articles. I must even say that it surprised me that someone would emphasise that there is no positive addiction. If the context is not mentioned often in gambling, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Anything you love doing very much, it could be a hobby anything whatsoever you can be addicted to them, and this doesn't necessarily mean that it will be that they will be hard on you. The same goes for gambling as well, earning regularly doesn't mean you are not addicted to it, and it's not all addictions that are negative/harmful.