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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 18

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February 21, 2024, 04:01:09 PM
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It is no shocker that Roma has been decent recently and that is why people see them as the bigger chance to win. I am not saying that they will, all I am saying is that it is not impossible for them to get that win, and betting on them to get that win doesn't seem too stupid. I hope that you could consider the situation changing and if they are missing any players or something happens, but at the time it looks like they will get that win.


Roma's performance has improved since Danielle De Rossi was appointed, so they have a chance to win their second leg against Feyenoord tomorrow. I don't think Roma will lose to Feyenoord either; even in the first leg, Roma's performance was very impressive; the only problem is that they can't seem to convert their opportunities into goals. However, in my opinion, Roma will do every effort to win the game. Despite the odds given to Roma. I will bet on them to win the game without a doubt.

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Milan may actually end up losing, not because they are worse, but because it's obvious that they will play defensive, and not attack too much, they got an easy win anyway, so no need to attack and score, hence why defensive strategy will be the way to go, even if they lose 1-0 or 2-0 then they still go up.

It wouldn't be a problem if AC Milan lost tomorrow; they have already won their first away game. However, they shouldn't concede up to three goals in that game. Because they are already leading with three goals. Even though they won in their first meeting, I'm still doubting that AC Milan will not lose in their second game at home.

The most surprising match of this week in the UEFA Europa League was the Braga-Qarabag match. Qarabag defeated Braga 4-2 away. 4 goals and this result makes them in the comfortable position especially in the second leg. I believe that Qarabag will also win in the second leg. However Braga still has a chance in the second leg to turn the situation.

When Braga lost to Qarabag at home, I was surprised since they perform very well in the Portugal league. I don't think Braga will have a opportunity to win in their second leg; they have already lost their chances of winning at home, which they lost 4:2. Now that Qarabag has two goals in the lead, I believe it will be challenging to turn things around in second leg.

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February 21, 2024, 04:29:24 PM
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Take care when you bet on this kind of game, they are a fucking lottery man, we think we know everything about football but in this tournament you never know what to expect, the weak teams are making a lot of surprises in the recent years, and some big teams tremble when they play.

Shaktar can take out Marseille for example.

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February 21, 2024, 04:36:02 PM
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I don't think so. The crushing defeat against Monza left signs of a rift between the fans and the team
and when I look at yesterday again, I feel sick. If they want to sell the game, they don't even need to practice
If Pioli does experiments again in this match, it will be difficult for him to regain the trust of the Fans.
And I believe they will play attacking and can do it better... coz they are Milan!

Even though AC Milan in the domestic league suffered a heavy defeat against Monza, I don't think this will affect AC Milan's confidence in the European league. Indeed, the Rennes vs AC Milan match is predicted to be tough.
However, if you look at the quality of the players of these two teams, the AC Milan squad is more superior, the only advantage is that Rennes will play in front of their supporters. However, this did not break AC Milan's enthusiasm at all. The reason is that AC Milan only needs to achieve a draw in this match to ensure they qualify for the last 16 of the Europa League. For Rennes themselves, they have a tough task, namely having to win the second leg with a score of 4-0 because they lost the first leg with a score of 3-0. So my prediction for this match is that AC Milan will win this match with a score of 0-1.

Playing so badly in the domestic league is not always impacting the performance from the club in european competition. We have so many cases that a club played worst in EPL could win UCL like what chelsea did a few years ago. So, keep in your mind that playing badly in serie a will not be determining the result from the game.
I do fully support acmilan in this game. The chance for milan to qualify if very big caused by it was leading the game with some aggregates against rennes. Rennes probably out from UEL very soon caused by it will not able scoring more than 2 goals against acmilan.
A win is better than draw. It to keeps the momentum owned by acmilan. Im feeling so damn good with this. Acmilan is performing better compared in the europa league. The chance owned by rennes is pretty small to qualify.
Anyone is feeling very convenient to take acmilan as their bet. This has been reflected from the result in the first leg if rennes was nothing compared to the acmilan. It's obvious milan is gonna win in this game as long as it will have its main players to play as starting line up.

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February 21, 2024, 04:56:04 PM
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Take care when you bet on this kind of game, they are a fucking lottery man, we think we know everything about football but in this tournament you never know what to expect, the weak teams are making a lot of surprises in the recent years, and some big teams tremble when they play.

Shaktar can take out Marseille for example.
Yes, you are right, if you want to bet in a match like this then we have to be really prepared for all the surprises that will occur in each match. Even though the European League is the second caste after the Champions League, most of the clubs here will still do their best to make sure they can really win in every match they play. I agree that we will never know what will happen, even though we consider ourselves experts in predicting a match, but that still doesn't guarantee that our predictions will actually happen in that match.

I don't think it's only here that clubs that are not considered strong give surprises that were previously unthinkable. The top competitions in Europe also provide many surprises, such as the English League, La Liga and other leagues in Europe. Like the week that just ended, for example, Bayern Munich lost against Bochum in the Bundesliga, Juventus had to be satisfied with a draw against Verona who are in the relegation zone and many more.

Yes, Shakhtar's opportunity to beat Marseille is wide open after they could only draw in the first meeting. But of course Marseille will appear as favorites in the second meeting because they will play the match at their home base, but once again I would say that does not guarantee victory for Marseille even though they appear in front of their own supporters.

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February 21, 2024, 05:07:32 PM
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Yes, it is very likely that Milan will play a defensive strategy because they have won the match in the first leg with a fairly large score and I don't think Milan will do as many attacks as in the first leg because their victory in the first leg has locked them in winning and qualifying for the next round. I don't think Rennes will be able to score more than 1 goal against Milan in that match and the match could end in a 1:1 draw.

I a gree with you. I wouldn't bet on Ac Milan to winning that match. Having a 3-0 lead will certainly make Ac Milan rotate their players in the second leg. I think Ac Milan will not field several core players and will replace them with young players or reserve players. They will try to rest some players for the next match. Or they will still field core players but they will not play aggressively and set defensive tactics. I think Italy is the best for this strategy.

The gap is too big. It needs a miracle for rennes to surpass milan's aggregates. Rennes must not also conceded the goals against milan too. It will be even worst if rennes will be conceded another goal from milan. Im seeing the chance of rennes is zero right now.
Im talking about acmilan vs rennes. In another game, roma must be playing without dybala and lukaku. that's very hard for roma to survive even though the next game is going to happen at home for roma but im doubting it right now.

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February 21, 2024, 05:08:09 PM
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Milan is not where the fans should look at anyway, Liverpool is the one to get it if you ask me. Leverkusen has shown the world that they have what it takes and won against Bayern whereas Liverpool lost to Arsenal recently, that is why I would understand why someone would say Leverkusen too.

However, Milan has no chance, they are not even remotely as good as those two teams and have no chance at all, we should not expect them to have a win at all, they are not going to get that win. Liverpool will be the winner if you ask me and Leverkusen is the second in line, Milan may not be even third, there are some other very good teams as well .Milan is decent, but they are not champions level of a team for Europa, not this season at least.

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February 21, 2024, 05:40:01 PM
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Milan is not where the fans should look at anyway, Liverpool is the one to get it if you ask me. Leverkusen has shown the world that they have what it takes and won against Bayern whereas Liverpool lost to Arsenal recently, that is why I would understand why someone would say Leverkusen too.

However, Milan has no chance, they are not even remotely as good as those two teams and have no chance at all, we should not expect them to have a win at all, they are not going to get that win. Liverpool will be the winner if you ask me and Leverkusen is the second in line, Milan may not be even third, there are some other very good teams as well .Milan is decent, but they are not champions level of a team for Europa, not this season at least.
I slightly disagree with your opinion but that doesn't mean I don't respect it, it's just that we have different opinions here.
We can't speculate too much about any club even though I sometimes exaggerate, but look at Milan's victory over Rennes by 3 scores and Milan's performance was quite good in the 1st leg.
Actually, we can't judge the performance and compare several clubs only by their appearance in the domestic league because for me Milan at that time losing was just a mistake and the 3 clubs you mentioned both had quite good performance and deserved to be UEL trophy holders.
When you say that Milan's chances are very small compared to Leverkusen and Liverpool, maybe you should look back at Sevilla, who last season won the UEL title while this club was doubt and I'm sure you will be surprised.

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February 21, 2024, 05:45:10 PM
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Take care when you bet on this kind of game, they are a fucking lottery man, we think we know everything about football but in this tournament you never know what to expect, the weak teams are making a lot of surprises in the recent years, and some big teams tremble when they play.

Shaktar can take out Marseille for example.

Marseille this season is just a very normal team and I doubt they could pick a place for any of the European competitions if they continue with the horrible performance they are showing!
UEFA games are worse to predict for sure, yet they have a way better odds @1.7 when comparing it to Donetsk @4.8. Apart from playing home, I don't see why the odds are that high.
The situation is quite different between Toulouse and Benfica where Benfica are clearly the favourite even when playing away. Bookies are backing the presence of a Ligue 1 team for the next round.

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February 21, 2024, 06:06:28 PM
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~snip~
Ac Milan's performance is difficult to predict, it could be said that it is not good and even tends to be inconsistent. In the Europa League, they won a landslide victory with Rannes and it is certain that AC Milan will qualify for the next round because AC Milan's aggregate is difficult for Rannes to catch in the second leg.

However, if you look at the domestic league, their performance is very bad, especially after losing to a weak team Monza, a painful defeat with four goals conceded, AC Milan's defense is so weak in the domestic league. From the last two matches which were very different for AC Milan, my prediction is that AC Milan's journey in the European League will not reach the final. Maybe AC Milan will only reach the semifinals, because of its unstable performance.
You are right that AC Milan performance is very difficult to predict because they do not have stability and consistency in the European League competition, but in terms of the existing percentages they currently have big chance of qualifying for the next round.
It just that we don't know whether after this AC Milan will still be able to win and it will be easier for them to continue competing for the title or not because the opponent that will be waiting for them is much stronger team.

Looking at AC Milan in the European League and also the domestic league, the differences will appear quite significant, this is the reason why there are still many who doubt AC Milan performance so far this season.

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A 3 goal advantage will make AC Milan more comfortable when playing in the second leg, but they still have to be careful because it is not impossible that Rennes will be able to make an extraordinary comeback even though it looks very difficult. Rennes themselves will go all out in the second leg in my opinion, because with 3 goals behind there is no other way for them but to continue attacking. If they play defensively it would be the same as allowing AC Milan to comfortably advance to the last 16 of the Europa League.
AC Milan must be able to anticipate this, they must strengthen themselves, especially in the midfield so that Rennes cannot freely control the match later. They also have to quickly find a rhythm before Rennes can find it. Because usually the club that first finds their rhythm in a match will open up their opportunities more in that match.
Yes, with an aggregate advantage of 3 points, AC Milan is more comfortable and calm in facing the second leg because that is big enough advantage for AC Milan to maintain its position and avoid defeat and fall.
Their match will be held tomorrow and we will see whether AC Milan is able to maintain its lead or suffers defeat due to the surprise given by Rennes, because it is difficult to believe that Rennes can do it.
I myself still quite sure that Rennes will not be able to overcome the 3 point deficit that occurred and if they do win it will still be impossible to score more than 2 goals.

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February 21, 2024, 06:10:47 PM
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Milan is not where the fans should look at anyway, Liverpool is the one to get it if you ask me. Leverkusen has shown the world that they have what it takes and won against Bayern whereas Liverpool lost to Arsenal recently, that is why I would understand why someone would say Leverkusen too.

However, Milan has no chance, they are not even remotely as good as those two teams and have no chance at all, we should not expect them to have a win at all, they are not going to get that win. Liverpool will be the winner if you ask me and Leverkusen is the second in line, Milan may not be even third, there are some other very good teams as well .Milan is decent, but they are not champions level of a team for Europa, not this season at least.

Do well not to look down or underestimate any of these top guns in the UEFA European Europa League Clubs. You do so and you're already putting all of your club at a huge risk.
Milan are big sides in the European Football,  I respect them as much ad they're not doing so well. My beliefs that they'll level up to go am far in this very competition.

Understood you feel Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool can go ahead to win this season,  its same way Ac Mialn can do and I trust them. They've had a poor season but that shouldn't affect them here.
The Champions league group stage was lesson enough for the Uefa European Europa League Competition.

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February 21, 2024, 06:18:03 PM
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These weeks matches look way cleaner then last one's, at least from this perspective. Braga killed my XFUN parlay so hard, and I intend to be way more careful this time around. Still, that begs the questions, does anyone expect to see any upsets this week as well?
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February 21, 2024, 06:27:25 PM
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The gap is too big. It needs a miracle for rennes to surpass milan's aggregates. Rennes must not also conceded the goals against milan too. It will be even worst if rennes will be conceded another goal from milan. Im seeing the chance of rennes is zero right now.
Im talking about acmilan vs rennes. In another game, roma must be playing without dybala and lukaku. that's very hard for roma to survive even though the next game is going to happen at home for roma but im doubting it right now.
Milan has a better chance in the second leg match, where it is likely that Milan will win again. To be honest, even though Milan suffered a 2-0 defeat, Pioli squad could still qualify for the round of 16, but in my opinion the maximum result that Rennes can achieve is a draw. On the other hand, I personally think Milan can qualify easily and will be one of the teams to be taken into account in the round of 16 and beyond. However, Milan also has a history that is difficult to predict, we can refer to their last match in Serie A, but their chances of qualifying for the last 16 of the Europa League are quite safe thanks to an aggregate advantage of 3 goals.

Regarding the Roma versus Feyenoord match, I think De Rossi squad will be able to beat the Dutch representatives, a score of 1-0 is enough to get them through from the play off round. On the other hand, I think Lukaku and Bybala will fill the starting XI, both of them are mainstays for De Rossi up front unless they are injured. On paper, Roma deserves to be superior, they will get full support from the fans, because they act as hosts.

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February 21, 2024, 06:32:00 PM
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Marseille this season is just a very normal team and I doubt they could pick a place for any of the European competitions if they continue with the horrible performance they are showing!
UEFA games are worse to predict for sure, yet they have a way better odds @1.7 when comparing it to Donetsk @4.8. Apart from playing home, I don't see why the odds are that high.
The situation is quite different between Toulouse and Benfica where Benfica are clearly the favourite even when playing away. Bookies are backing the presence of a Ligue 1 team for the next round.

Marseille is still unbeaten at home in this season in all competitions (90 minutes/normal time).
They only lost once in a penalty shootout against Panathinaikos back in August 2023 - Champions League Qualifying R3.

With this record, Marseille will be heavily favored by the bettors despite both of the teams performance.
In reality, Shakhtar players should be more fit in stamina than Marseille players, because the Ukraine Premier League was in a break since Dec last year.
If I have to bet on this match, I will pick Shakhtar with asian handicap.

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February 21, 2024, 07:22:05 PM
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These weeks matches look way cleaner then last one's, at least from this perspective. Braga killed my XFUN parlay so hard, and I intend to be way more careful this time around. Still, that begs the questions, does anyone expect to see any upsets this week as well?

Toulouse beat Monaco in a Ligue1 game, Monaco despite being a team that is going through bad times, they are still a team that is in position 5 in Ligue1 and Toulouse managed to win, by that I mean that I wouldn't be surprised If Toulouse manages to beat Benfica and move on to another stage, this is because Benfica has sometimes been very inconsistent and in the first leg game Benfica wasted many opportunities, while Toulouse only caused serious danger to Benfica's defense. Once and only once Toulouse managed to score 1 goal and it wasn't from a penalty, while Benfica needed to win 2 penalties to score a goal, in my opinion if in the second leg Benfica has the same behavior then Toulouse will have a chance to be able to score goals and move on to another stage

another game that I think we could see a surprise would be the Sparta Prague game against Galatasaray, in the first leg Galatasaray won because they scored the third goal when the game was very close to the end and Galatasaray was playing at home, now Galatasaray will playing away from home, there is a risk of seeing a turnaround, in which Sparta Prague could win the game and move on to another stage, it is true that Galatasaray is a strong team, but in the first leg game I saw that Sparta Prague are also a good team that has a chance of winning. As for the remaining games, I think it's very difficult for us to see any surprises

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February 21, 2024, 07:46:56 PM
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Do well not to look down or underestimate any of these top guns in the UEFA European Europa League Clubs. You do so and you're already putting all of your club at a huge risk.
Milan are big sides in the European Football,  I respect them as much ad they're not doing so well. My beliefs that they'll level up to go am far in this very competition.

Understood you feel Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool can go ahead to win this season,  its same way Ac Mialn can do and I trust them. They've had a poor season but that shouldn't affect them here.
The Champions league group stage was lesson enough for the Uefa European Europa League Competition.
The Champions League is quite different from the Europa League. I've watched most of these teams failing to do well in the UCL but make formidable stands in the Europa League. They can only become stronger when they face fierce oppositions. The europa League comes with tense actions due to the presence of elite teams. AC Milan are not trusted when it comes to elite competition this season, I've watch their performance, they're not playing according to the standards of their status as elite team. Stefano Pioli might lose his job because he's not making proper moves as a coach to level up the team's performance.

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February 21, 2024, 07:56:37 PM
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Milan is not where the fans should look at anyway, Liverpool is the one to get it if you ask me. Leverkusen has shown the world that they have what it takes and won against Bayern whereas Liverpool lost to Arsenal recently, that is why I would understand why someone would say Leverkusen too.

However, Milan has no chance, they are not even remotely as good as those two teams and have no chance at all, we should not expect them to have a win at all, they are not going to get that win. Liverpool will be the winner if you ask me and Leverkusen is the second in line, Milan may not be even third, there are some other very good teams as well .Milan is decent, but they are not champions level of a team for Europa, not this season at least.
Generally, all the teams that come from Champions League are supposed to be the tough opponents for the teams that are already in the Europa League but this time around we have Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen that are stronger than all the teams that joined them from Champions League; nevertheless, we cannot give up and conclude that they cannot do anything, but Leverkusen and Liverpool can defeat any of them which means they still remain the favorites to win the Europa League.

I am betting for Leverkusen to win the Europa because they are the only team that is yet to lose in any of their League matches, they defeated Bayern Munich, and other big teams in the Bundesliga which is one of the main reason I am optimistic that they will win the Europa Leagues this season.

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February 21, 2024, 08:45:10 PM
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Quote from: FanEagle
Milan is not where the fans should look at anyway, Liverpool is the one to get it if you ask me. Leverkusen has shown the world that they have what it takes and won against Bayern whereas Liverpool lost to Arsenal recently, that is why I would understand why someone would say Leverkusen too.
Liverpool has performed what will give people to believe in them that they are capable to win the game because, some of their players that has been in injuries are very ready to be part of the game so that what happened last season will not repeat itself again.

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Liverpool will be the winner if you ask me and Leverkusen is the second in line, Milan may not be even third, there are some other very good teams as well .Milan is decent, but they are not champions level of a team for Europa, not this season at least.
If you make Liverpool your favourite team in this game, you will achieve a good results from your prediction because their opponent don't have the skills to stop Liverpool not to lift this Europa league trophy this season because many things have changed about the team and they are ready to improve more so that they will be able to win this trophy and premier league trophy too.




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February 21, 2024, 08:58:57 PM
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Milan is not where the fans should look at anyway, Liverpool is the one to get it if you ask me. Leverkusen has shown the world that they have what it takes and won against Bayern whereas Liverpool lost to Arsenal recently, that is why I would understand why someone would say Leverkusen too.

However, Milan has no chance, they are not even remotely as good as those two teams and have no chance at all, we should not expect them to have a win at all, they are not going to get that win. Liverpool will be the winner if you ask me and Leverkusen is the second in line, Milan may not be even third, there are some other very good teams as well .Milan is decent, but they are not champions level of a team for Europa, not this season at least.

If you ask me, since the start of this thread I have favored Leverkusen. It's not without reason that I said this from the start of the Europa League competition, because Leverkusen's performance has been very good since Alonso took charge of it. moreover, Xabi Alonso has made good progress with Bayer Leverkusen, it has been proven that so far Xabi Alonso's team has not been defeated in various competitions. plus, Leverkusen has the potential to break Bayern Munich's dominance in the domestic league, which is 8 points ahead. in this competition, Leverkusen is no less strong than Liverpool. even though in terms of depth, Liverpool is one level above Leverkusen. It's just that Leverkusen has a very impressive, interesting and aggressive game. so it is clear, Leverkusen is also one of the strong challengers in this competition in the race for the championship trophy.

As for AC Milan, at least they have the probability of qualifying for the next phase. Stefano Pioli only needs a draw, so they will advance to the next round. Regarding AC Milan's progress in the round of 16, if they qualify, we'll just follow how it develops. after all, they will also do their job optimally.

Talking about Liverpool, I think Jurgen Kloop's squad is not as safe as Leverkusen. I mean, in the Premier League the competition will be even tighter with a narrow point difference. apart from that, Liverpool still has matches against City and Arsenal. which means, Klopp's focus will be more on the Domestic League. well, if the competition gets tougher.  Like it or not, Klopp focuses on the Premier League. for the Europa League, it will probably only be a second option for them. but we'll see, because to be sure we have to take part in the matches presented in the Europa League at least after the playoffs are over.


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February 21, 2024, 10:54:07 PM
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Milan is not where the fans should look at anyway, Liverpool is the one to get it if you ask me. Leverkusen has shown the world that they have what it takes and won against Bayern whereas Liverpool lost to Arsenal recently, that is why I would understand why someone would say Leverkusen too.

However, Milan has no chance, they are not even remotely as good as those two teams and have no chance at all, we should not expect them to have a win at all, they are not going to get that win. Liverpool will be the winner if you ask me and Leverkusen is the second in line, Milan may not be even third, there are some other very good teams as well .Milan is decent, but they are not champions level of a team for Europa, not this season at least.
Generally, all the teams that come from Champions League are supposed to be the tough opponents for the teams that are already in the Europa League but this time around we have Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen that are stronger than all the teams that joined them from Champions League; nevertheless, we cannot give up and conclude that they cannot do anything, but Leverkusen and Liverpool can defeat any of them which means they still remain the favorites to win the Europa League.

I am betting for Leverkusen to win the Europa because they are the only team that is yet to lose in any of their League matches, they defeated Bayern Munich, and other big teams in the Bundesliga which is one of the main reason I am optimistic that they will win the Europa Leagues this season.

I wouldn't say this can be deemed as a rule of thumb as it does depend on the form of a team. When Barcelona got relegated into the Europa League last season, it could be said that they were doing well in their domestic league but they had huge problems to get along in the European competitions. Everyone thought they would be smashing the Europa League, but I was quite sure they were definitely not win it. It's tough for teams to take on the challenge when they are full of superstars and are used to playing the Champions League, but then end up playing against Ludogoretz or something. It shouldn't be underestimated that especially the superstars can grow with the challenge, but the fun fact is that the opposite can hold true as well. They can't play their best against the worst (I exaggerated a bit here, but you get the idea).

So this is why it is hard to tell whether the teams from the Champions League understand the challenge and will play their highest level or whether they will fall pray for an inferior but highly motivated team. This happens quite often in my opinion.

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February 21, 2024, 11:05:22 PM
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So this is why it is hard to tell whether the teams from the Champions League understand the challenge and will play their highest level or whether they will fall pray for an inferior but highly motivated team. This happens quite often in my opinion.
The case of Barcelona last season is associated with poor form, they were doing well in their domestic League but they don’t have quality players to compete in the Europa League, their Lalig’s big opponent Real Madrid was also not in good form last season, that was the main reason they couldn’t make it in the Europa League.

This season is another season where we have already seen the form of all the teams available in the Europa League both in their domestic leagues and the Europa League, I didn’t see any team from Champions League that is capable to winning Leverkusen or Liverpool that is why I am supporting any of these two to win the Europa League.

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