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April 12, 2024, 10:08:23 AM
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Two games in the Europa League didn't end as I expected.I didn't expect both Milan and Liverpool to lose.Milan lost 1-0 at home against Roma, making it difficult for them to qualify.Of course, all is not lost for Milan, but it's not normal for them to lose at home when they are in such good form.It's their fault that they couldn't take advantage of so many scoring chances in the match, but Roma's away win may have been more than enough to open the door for them.
Liverpool, on the other hand, lost by 3 goals at home against Atalanta, making it really difficult for them.Although they played a better game than their opponents in the match, they were unlucky in front of goal, which led to them not scoring and conceding goals.I don't know if Liverpool can pass the round away, but they have a really difficult job.Liverpool can win by at least 3 goals away from home and maybe take it to extra time.

What else do you expect from Liverpool match when you see the likes of Jones, Elliot, Gakpo and tsimikas? Klopp deliberately gave away that game with his squad selection. You can not send a weak squad against an opponent like Atalanta as if it Norwich you are going to play and expect a miraculous result. The second half panic substitution makes things more difficult and worse. Klopp got what he deserved in that match, he's a kind of couch I know that he underrate his opponent so much. You can not underestimate any team in Europe that reach this stage of the competition but his pride won't allow him to act proper. Glad that he already admitted that they played very poorly. Liverpool is really creating doubt on their chances of winning the EPL title. Firstly, they bottled a five points lead in the Premier league and now they bottle the Europa league because beating Atalanta on away visit is not realistic.

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April 12, 2024, 10:10:43 AM
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Two games in the Europa League didn't end as I expected.I didn't expect both Milan and Liverpool to lose.Milan lost 1-0 at home against Roma, making it difficult for them to qualify.Of course, all is not lost for Milan, but it's not normal for them to lose at home when they are in such good form.It's their fault that they couldn't take advantage of so many scoring chances in the match, but Roma's away win may have been more than enough to open the door for them.
Liverpool, on the other hand, lost by 3 goals at home against Atalanta, making it really difficult for them.Although they played a better game than their opponents in the match, they were unlucky in front of goal, which led to them not scoring and conceding goals.I don't know if Liverpool can pass the round away, but they have a really difficult job.Liverpool can win by at least 3 goals away from home and maybe take it to extra time.
This might be one of the most surprising matches of the year for me. Because the results of the match were truly beyond everyone's expectations. As if Liverpool were not a strong team competing for the title in the EPL. What I think is that Klopp made the wrong decision with their starting eleven. Because he didn't play M. Salah from the start of the match. Maybe Klopp underestimated Atalanta too much in that match. So the results are quite bad. We know that teams from Italy cannot always be underestimated. The proof is that last season the Champions League was also filled with teams from Italy in the semi-finals. Liverpool's hopes in the Europa League seem to be very difficult. Because I was behind with an aggregate of 3 goals, I felt it was very difficult to catch. What is clear is that I am very disappointed with them.

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April 12, 2024, 10:35:28 AM
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This might be one of the most surprising matches of the year for me. Because the results of the match were truly beyond everyone's expectations. As if Liverpool were not a strong team competing for the title in the EPL. What I think is that Klopp made the wrong decision with their starting eleven. Because he didn't play M. Salah from the start of the match. Maybe Klopp underestimated Atalanta too much in that match. So the results are quite bad. We know that teams from Italy cannot always be underestimated. The proof is that last season the Champions League was also filled with teams from Italy in the semi-finals. Liverpool's hopes in the Europa League seem to be very difficult. Because I was behind with an aggregate of 3 goals, I felt it was very difficult to catch. What is clear is that I am very disappointed with them.
I don't think that Klopp is underestimating Atalanta, but Liverpool's squad has rotated a lot of players, not only in this match but in almost all matches this season. Klopp has rotated a lot of players because of the injury problems they continue to face.
The defeat against Atalanta is sometimes surprising and I see that the condition of the Liverpool team is not doing well because of the unsatisfactory results they got in the Premier League last weekend against Man United.

In football there are very often surprises, especially in the Europa League, almost every season there are big surprises and this season I think Liverpool's defeat was quite a big surprise because the Liverpool team is quite the favorite to win the Europa League title this season but in fact they are likely to eliminated in the quarterfinals.

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April 12, 2024, 11:23:22 AM
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This might be one of the most surprising matches of the year for me. Because the results of the match were truly beyond everyone's expectations. As if Liverpool were not a strong team competing for the title in the EPL. What I think is that Klopp made the wrong decision with their starting eleven. Because he didn't play M. Salah from the start of the match. Maybe Klopp underestimated Atalanta too much in that match. So the results are quite bad. We know that teams from Italy cannot always be underestimated. The proof is that last season the Champions League was also filled with teams from Italy in the semi-finals. Liverpool's hopes in the Europa League seem to be very difficult. Because I was behind with an aggregate of 3 goals, I felt it was very difficult to catch. What is clear is that I am very disappointed with them.
I don't think that Klopp is underestimating Atalanta, but Liverpool's squad has rotated a lot of players, not only in this match but in almost all matches this season. Klopp has rotated a lot of players because of the injury problems they continue to face.
The defeat against Atalanta is sometimes surprising and I see that the condition of the Liverpool team is not doing well because of the unsatisfactory results they got in the Premier League last weekend against Man United.

In football there are very often surprises, especially in the Europa League, almost every season there are big surprises and this season I think Liverpool's defeat was quite a big surprise because the Liverpool team is quite the favorite to win the Europa League title this season but in fact they are likely to eliminated in the quarterfinals.

Liverpool did not underestimate Atalanta, but they were too confident because at the start of the first half, Liverpool did have several good opportunities and they dominated the game. Even when Atalanta managed to score their first goal, Liverpool still looked quite confident, as if they believed they could catch up. But the situation really changed when Atalanta got their second goal, which we can see that Liverpool are starting to lose their rhythm and they look quite frustrated.

Liverpool will indeed face a tough path and their chances are not great but they still have that opportunity. As long as they still have a winning mentality, I think they can still make a comeback. In the 2018/19 Champions League season, Liverpool made a 4-0 comeback when playing against Barcelona, even though in the first leg they lost 0-3

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April 12, 2024, 11:58:10 AM
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There is no doubt that many gamblers lost money on Liverpool's win. But I restrained myself from betting on the match. Because I thought Liverpool are now more busy to win the Premier League title. Their main target is to secure the Premier League title. So I wasn't sure if Liverpool would give their full effort in the Europa League match.

Klopp probably thought they could win against Atalanta with the second row of players. This was Liverpool's biggest mistake. Atalanta team should not be underestimated by Liverpool. However, we saw a very poor performance from Liverpool's defenders. Liverpool would not have been beaten badly if the defenders had done well.
This was unexpected, even for Klopp. He made some mistakes by not fielding their strongest 11, underestimating Atlanta. The starting lineup didn't seem confident about winning, unfortunately their changes didn't work out, which leading to disaster at home. But is there any excuse of their weak defense and attack? Of-course not. It was errors from Liverpool's side and poor defending. Every time Atlanta attacked, they looked like they would score. It was an off night for Liverpool, and their performance is a concern for the Premier League. Well played, Atlanta.
The other reason can be because Klopp want to rest some of his main key players because his team is also competing for the EPL title. Looking at the starting 11 for the Europa League, I can say that Klopp's main priority is the EPL title.  Maybe he was also thinking that his team will be able to beat Atalanta although without all the best players but unfortunately the decision is not working well and gave him a lose with big goal difference. Although there will be still a chance to make come back in the 2nd leg, but they should do all the best to make it come true.

You are right. Klopp wanted to rest key players in his squad for this match. Because Klopp's main goal is to secure the Premier League title. So he didn't put much effort into the Europa League matches. Last season we saw Barcelona dominate La Liga, but their performance in every Europa League match was very poor. The big teams are usually not interested in winning the Europa League title.

However, since this is Klopp's last season with Liverpool, I thought Klopp would want to secure both the Premier League and Europa League titles. But after a 3-0 home defeat I see no chance of Liverpool qualifying for the next round.

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April 12, 2024, 12:02:42 PM
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Liverpool did not underestimate Atalanta, but they were too confident because at the start of the first half, Liverpool did have several good opportunities and they dominated the game. Even when Atalanta managed to score their first goal, Liverpool still looked quite confident, as if they believed they could catch up. But the situation really changed when Atalanta got their second goal, which we can see that Liverpool are starting to lose their rhythm and they look quite frustrated.

Liverpool will indeed face a tough path and their chances are not great but they still have that opportunity. As long as they still have a winning mentality, I think they can still make a comeback. In the 2018/19 Champions League season, Liverpool made a 4-0 comeback when playing against Barcelona, even though in the first leg they lost 0-3

Totally agreed. One who watched this match live would know how much effort Liverpool made throughout the match. They wasted a lot of chances and Atalanta were having a really great day at the same time.  Tongue  Klopp's rotating the starting eleven still wasn't an issue for Liverpool. They weren't having problems with creating opportunities to score goals.

I also believe that there is still hope for Liverpool. Do you remember their matches against Atalanta in the group stage of the 2020/2021 season? A 5-0 away win by Liverpool and Atalanta to win by 2-0 away later.  Smiley  Maybe Liverpool might repeat this who knows...

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April 12, 2024, 12:08:36 PM
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Practically Liverpool will not qualify if in the second leg they do not score 3 more goals because Atalanta beat them with a difference of 3 goals at Anfield. Something terrible happened last night and no one expected Liverpool to lose at home so easily. I thought that even if they lost it wouldn't be more than 1 goal, but what happened was that Liverpool was destroyed and couldn't get the goal back.

It seems that we are a little pessimistic about Liverpool being in the final against Leverkusen and first they have to avenge their defeat in the first leg with another landslide victory in the second leg. We all know it will be very difficult for Liverpool and if they cannot show a better game then they must be ready to leave the Europa League.

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Liverpool has nearly zero chance of qualifying for the further stage. It's still questioned my why klopp was starting salah from the bench. Klopp was obviously underestimating their opponents and shit happens to the liverpool.

Nothing is impossible, especially in these competitions, I've seen many comebacks that were impossible, but of course it's become VERY difficult now for the English team
What happened yesterday has a simple explanation, and at least IN MY OPINION, Liverpool didn't show the interest that the competition deserves, while Atalanta did
Liverpool's focus is entirely on Premier League, and they thought they could beat Atalanta without any complications

Liverpool wanted the Champions League and not the Europa League, but now they'll be left with nothing, and will have to work hard in the Premier League

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This might be one of the most surprising matches of the year for me. Because the results of the match were truly beyond everyone's expectations. As if Liverpool were not a strong team competing for the title in the EPL. What I think is that Klopp made the wrong decision with their starting eleven. Because he didn't play M. Salah from the start of the match. Maybe Klopp underestimated Atalanta too much in that match. So the results are quite bad. We know that teams from Italy cannot always be underestimated. The proof is that last season the Champions League was also filled with teams from Italy in the semi-finals. Liverpool's hopes in the Europa League seem to be very difficult. Because I was behind with an aggregate of 3 goals, I felt it was very difficult to catch. What is clear is that I am very disappointed with them.
I don't think that Klopp is underestimating Atalanta, but Liverpool's squad has rotated a lot of players, not only in this match but in almost all matches this season. Klopp has rotated a lot of players because of the injury problems they continue to face.
The defeat against Atalanta is sometimes surprising and I see that the condition of the Liverpool team is not doing well because of the unsatisfactory results they got in the Premier League last weekend against Man United.

In football there are very often surprises, especially in the Europa League, almost every season there are big surprises and this season I think Liverpool's defeat was quite a big surprise because the Liverpool team is quite the favorite to win the Europa League title this season but in fact they are likely to eliminated in the quarterfinals.

Liverpool did not underestimate Atalanta, but they were too confident because at the start of the first half, Liverpool did have several good opportunities and they dominated the game. Even when Atalanta managed to score their first goal, Liverpool still looked quite confident, as if they believed they could catch up. But the situation really changed when Atalanta got their second goal, which we can see that Liverpool are starting to lose their rhythm and they look quite frustrated.

Liverpool will indeed face a tough path and their chances are not great but they still have that opportunity. As long as they still have a winning mentality, I think they can still make a comeback. In the 2018/19 Champions League season, Liverpool made a 4-0 comeback when playing against Barcelona, even though in the first leg they lost 0-3

Overconfidence can have adverse effects. Despite Liverpool's early domination in the game and their continuing self-assurance even after allowing a goal, their subsequent loss of coordination and feelings of irritability at the second goal suggested that they had placed an undue reliance on confidence.

Even though history speaks to the fact that Liverpool has made comebacks, as they did in a game against Barcelona during the 2018/19 Champions League season. Having a winning mentality along with the ability to turn things around are key characteristics in such situations. Therefore, despite the difficult situation, there is still a chance for Liverpool to make a comeback, especially if they can keep their spirits high and concentration steady.

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Almost most of the community was shocked by Liverpool's defeat at Anfield against Atalanta, even though in football this is a normal and common thing to happen. I often say in this thread, especially for Liverpool and Leverkusen, that these two teams do not rule out the possibility of slipping during their matches. It was proven that Jurgen Kloop's team lost to Atalanta at Anfield, their home ground. What's worse is that Liverpool were defeated with a score of 0-3, a result that many people don't accept this defeat.

Well, this is football. you don't just have to be strong to win, it's not based on data and statistics. but when the match is held, the result will be decisive. where there are many variables that make a strong team lose. either player error, poor performance, or unlucky factors. there are also other factors, as I often say. Jurgen Kloop must divide his focus on two competitions at once. they are still competing fiercely in the Premier League, they also have to focus on the Europa League competition. In fact, it is not easy for Kloop to keep his team consistent and stable. Moreover, in last night's match, Kloop chose not to field the full core of his line-up as the main starter. well, there is still a chance for Liverpool, only they have to beat Atalanta with a score of more than 4 goals.

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April 12, 2024, 01:07:26 PM
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Overconfidence can have adverse effects. Despite Liverpool's early domination in the game and their continuing self-assurance even after allowing a goal, their subsequent loss of coordination and feelings of irritability at the second goal suggested that they had placed an undue reliance on confidence.

Even though history speaks to the fact that Liverpool has made comebacks, as they did in a game against Barcelona during the 2018/19 Champions League season. Having a winning mentality along with the ability to turn things around are key characteristics in such situations. Therefore, despite the difficult situation, there is still a chance for Liverpool to make a comeback, especially if they can keep their spirits high and concentration steady.
Can't just explain what went wrong with the Liverpool team because they were the favourites. I might agree that they underrated Atalanta that was why key players like Mohamed Salah, Dominik Szoboszlai, Andy Robertson and Luis Diaz were kept at the beach at the beginning of the game. Liverpool took total control of the game but we're wasteful in the attack and the main culprit is Darwin Núñez. I suspect Jurgen Klopp is more focused on the Premiership and didn't field his best when he realized that Atalanta was performing more than he expected he introduced more players but it was become late.

Liverpool has past records of overturning large goal deficits but it will be a difficult task. The task is even more difficult with the fact that they are going to play in Gewiss Stadium, with the home fans. The Italian side might maintain their defensive and counterattacking style of play in the second leg and it will be difficult for Liverpool to score more than one goal. And if the English side makes the same mistake, they will be punished. Klopp will be leaving Anfield at the end of this season and he would be targeting to win the two trophies as a farewell gift but if he fails to do his homework he might end up losing both.

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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.



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Almost most of the community was shocked by Liverpool's defeat at Anfield against Atalanta, even though in football this is a normal and common thing to happen. I often say in this thread, especially for Liverpool and Leverkusen, that these two teams do not rule out the possibility of slipping during their matches. It was proven that Jurgen Kloop's team lost to Atalanta at Anfield, their home ground. What's worse is that Liverpool were defeated with a score of 0-3, a result that many people don't accept this defeat.

which surprised many fans because Liverpool is one of the favorite teams because their performance is quite stable. but in a match like that it can't be predicted. Maybe losing by 1 goal to Atalanta is still acceptable, but losing by 3 goals without reply even when they really dominated the match, is very disappointing.
even after Klopp's efforts to replace several players by including Salah, Jota and Diaz. it doesn't change the results. I don't know what's wrong with Liverpool, but being 3 goals behind will be quite difficult for them in the second leg. all they can do is maybe equalize the score in the second leg. but it sure was hard work.

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Tuesday match from Champions League leaves the rod very high, but i was thinking before that games we can see more enjoyable matches as a neutrals here in the Europa League than in the Champions League. But well the rod is now prety high  Grin

Atalanta Liverpool, super fast football transitions i expect, lets hope a rain of goals between them.
The way Liverpool have qualified for the quarter-finals from the Super Sixteen, this team is undoubtedly a fearsome team for any team and any team that comes up against this team will definitely be cautious. This season Liverpool are doing devastatingly in both the English Premier League or Europa League and in the English Premier League Liverpool are doing great against the big teams and beating the big teams. All the teams that Liverpool have faced in the Europa League so far have been quite weak and the opponents they have faced in the quarter finals are weak enough that we can expect Liverpool to win the quarter final first leg by a big margin.
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Roma takes the lead on the 16th minutes as Macini broke the deadlock with a brilliant header to the back of the net after he received a cross from a corner kick. This is the second goal scored by Macini in the league. It was quite a shock to see that Roma scored first in Milan's home. De Rossi is doing a great job on his players.

Milan have started pressuring Roma to equalize the goal but there have been no chance for them, as Roma seals up their defense. I know that Milan will be able to e2the goal before the first half will be over.

Milan 0-1 Roma

Yup, in the end I had to accept a bad result in the first leg. Milan, which should have better confidence because in Serie A they can win the last 5 matches, doesn't seem to be good enough for the UEL competition. 1 goal deficit to face the 2nd leg, even it is only 1 goal, this could be a disaster for Milan. There are still 6 days for Pioli to improve his strategy to face AS Roma in the 2nd leg, Milan must not waste any more opportunities, in this match, Milan succes with 25 shots on goal, but no goals scored. However, Slivar appeared so amazing in this match.

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April 12, 2024, 01:38:57 PM
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Practically Liverpool will not qualify if in the second leg they do not score 3 more goals because Atalanta beat them with a difference of 3 goals at Anfield. Something terrible happened last night and no one expected Liverpool to lose at home so easily. I thought that even if they lost it wouldn't be more than 1 goal, but what happened was that Liverpool was destroyed and couldn't get the goal back.

It seems that we are a little pessimistic about Liverpool being in the final against Leverkusen and first they have to avenge their defeat in the first leg with another landslide victory in the second leg. We all know it will be very difficult for Liverpool and if they cannot show a better game then they must be ready to leave the Europa League.
Even if Liverpool score 3 goals, it still will not qualify, because to get to the next round Liverpool need to score 4 goals and not concede, which is unlikely, because at least one goal Atalanta must score, so Liverpool need to at least score five goals.
In general, the task is not just difficult, but almost impossible, because Atalanta always plays well at home and misses few goals.
So the chances of Liverpool to reach the next stage can be estimated as 10-20%. If Atalanta will not have injuries and they will be in the optimal lineup, then the chances of Liverpool 10%, and if there will be losses in the lineup, and Liverpool will be in the optimal lineup for the game, then the chances of Liverpool will increase to 20%, but I think no more.

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April 12, 2024, 01:41:01 PM
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Almost most of the community was shocked by Liverpool's defeat at Anfield against Atalanta, even though in football this is a normal and common thing to happen. I often say in this thread, especially for Liverpool and Leverkusen, that these two teams do not rule out the possibility of slipping during their matches. It was proven that Jurgen Kloop's team lost to Atalanta at Anfield, their home ground. What's worse is that Liverpool were defeated with a score of 0-3, a result that many people don't accept this defeat.

Well, this is football. you don't just have to be strong to win, it's not based on data and statistics. but when the match is held, the result will be decisive. where there are many variables that make a strong team lose. either player error, poor performance, or unlucky factors. there are also other factors, as I often say. Jurgen Kloop must divide his focus on two competitions at once. they are still competing fiercely in the Premier League, they also have to focus on the Europa League competition. In fact, it is not easy for Kloop to keep his team consistent and stable. Moreover, in last night's match, Kloop chose not to field the full core of his line-up as the main starter. well, there is still a chance for Liverpool, only they have to beat Atalanta with a score of more than 4 goals.

In other matches, I could only smile sweetly when Roma beat Milan at the San Siro.
TBH, I was one of the bettors who was shocked and didn't expect a surprise to happen with Liverpool defeat and actually this was all my own fault, who initially didn't really believe in Liverpool but insisted on betting on their win.
Liverpool disappointed many people in yesterday's match even though some already understand that there are always surprises in every match but actually it doesn't make sense when I start to doubt a little when Salah is not the starting player in the match but I am just being positive and believe that it is just a strategy which is different and will make a strong attack in the second half and unfortunately Atalanta knows this strategy so they can beat it easily and score 3 scores without any resistance from Liverpool.

plus Milan defeat made me lose quite a bit of my bet with a simple performance but was able to control the ball very well but the fact that it only ended in a narrow defeat at home made me a little embarrassed.

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April 12, 2024, 01:41:42 PM
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I said it here that nobody should underrate Roma. I said that they could go all the way. Roma's problem right now is conceding too many goals and they dealt with that problem properly yesterday. They got the first-half goal and defended it till the end of the match. Now they'll head into the second leg at home with a goal advantage. Under De Rossi Roma's home record has been impressive, only Inter has been able to win then at home.

What happened yesterday has a simple explanation, and at least IN MY OPINION, Liverpool didn't show the interest that the competition deserves, while Atalanta did

I don't agree that Liverpool didn't show interest in the competition, they did. They were simply outplayed by Atalanta. I think Liverpool overrated themselves or they underrated Atalanta. Most Liverpool fans felt it would be a walk in the park because they were playing at home too. English fans need to follow other leagues more often, EPL teams are not the only good teams in Europe.

I don't think Liverpool will make a comeback against Atalanta. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's extremely difficult considering the fact they're they're playing away from home. How are they going to score 4 goals and make sure Atalanta doesn't score at home?

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April 12, 2024, 01:42:47 PM
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Liverpool wanted the Champions League and not the Europa League, but now they'll be left with nothing, and will have to work hard in the Premier League
What happened in leg 1 may actually help them in their quest to win the Premier League. It's already tough competing in both tournaments so maybe Klopp should take this opportunity. The drawback is that he'll be ridiculed for leaving the tournament early but the fans may accept it if they win in the second leg.
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April 12, 2024, 01:56:04 PM
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What happened in leg 1 may actually help them in their quest to win the Premier League. It's already tough competing in both tournaments so maybe Klopp should take this opportunity. The drawback is that he'll be ridiculed for leaving the tournament early but the fans may accept it if they win in the second leg.
Probably EL has never attracted so much attention, and all because one of the favorites lost. It is clear that if they lose, Klopp will concentrate on the Premier League, but I am sure that he simply did not think that Atalanta could be so strong. And Liverpool can try to win the return match, but after such an uncertain first game, there are doubts that they will be able to achieve a result that would allow them to qualify for the semi-finals. Atalanta only needs to score one goal at home, or play well defensively, even without scoring goals.

And almost no one discusses the fact that De Rossi was able to beat Milan away, this is another unexpected result, I didn’t think that Milan could lose at home. De Rossi has so far proven that he is worthy of signing a full contract with Roma.

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