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April 12, 2024, 03:52:31 PM
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It was close to 14 months since Liverpool were last defeat at Anfield. But Liverpool fell to a woeful 3-0 defeat in the first leg of its Europa League quarterfinal to Atalanta on Thursday evening at Anfield. Atalanta could have scored more at Anfield had it not been for Liverpool goalkeeper Caoimhin Kelleher. Liverpool fans were left stunned after this result and very few would have seen this result coming.

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April 12, 2024, 03:53:07 PM
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However, if you look at the results in the first leg, where Liverpool lost 0-3, even though they were playing at home. I think Liverpool no longer has a big chance of qualifying for the semifinals or even more so the final. Their opportunities are not yet completely exhausted but it is clear that it will be a very tough struggle for Liverpool. Recently, Atalanta has not been playing well enough in Serie A but they still tend to be dangerous when playing at home.

Meanwhile, for Bayer Leverkusen, it looks like they will have it easy path to making it to the final because their performance is truly promising. Whoever the enemy is, it is likely that Leverkusen will always be ready to face their opponent.
It's not just that Liverpool has little chance of advancing to the semifinals, I even think that there is almost no possibility for Liverpool, losing by 3 goals at a time makes it almost impossible for the Liverpool team to turn things around in the second leg when they play against Atalanta.
What happened was a big surprise, no one expected that Liverpool would lose by a big score at home.

Leverkusen played in the first leg and they have gained very valuable capital to look at the second leg later, winning 2 goals in the first leg and in terms of quality it is also clear that Leverkusen is much better than West Ham so I think no one doubts Leverkusen to win easily. advanced to the semifinals.

Losing at Atalanta's home would have been quite understanding, but they lost three banger goals in front of the home fans? That should be one of the biggest loses they've had at home since last year. I can't really recall the game but they have been super rock solid at home, thanks to Scamacca who opened the way with both goals.
Jurgen Klopp feels like they would get a good chance also when they travel to Atalanta next week, that I'm sure will not be very possible, they should go focus on the Premier League Competition right now.

Kudus was very active for West Ham United yesterday night, I could say he was the best player on the pitch as he tried hard to break Leverkusens midfielder's.
As tough as they the hammers went yesterday, Xabi Alonso made two to three changes which came on to win the game for him

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April 12, 2024, 03:55:56 PM
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People doubted Leverkusen's ability after the previous match against Qarabag where Leverkusen seemed difficult to win against Qarabag in the previous match, whereas against West Ham, which was said to be a big threat to Leverkusen, they could easily win by two goals against West Ham, another match that surprised Liverpool who To be the favorite to win against Atalanta at Anfield, it turned out that they actually lost by three goals without replying in front of all their supporters. it was really a complicated match for Liverpool to win at their home ground.

Roma performed better than AC Milan according to what I said, De Rossi seems to have made As Roma really change for the better, the three matches yesterday were quite surprising to many people but this is football, nothing can be predicted, even the favorite team can lose badly. teams that are not superior and vice versa, so don't underestimate the strength of your opponents, especially in this important competition, they will definitely play more optimally than in the domestic league, the prediction that Leverkusen will meet Liverpool in the final seems to be changing Leverkusen and As Roma.  Grin

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April 12, 2024, 03:57:28 PM
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Had Salah been included in the starting XI, the outcome of the match might have been different. In the first half, Liverpool's attack did not play well. And this is why Atalanta's players become more confident. And that's why we saw a better performance from Atalanta's players in the second half.
I don't think if Salah was chosen for a start squad, this match can be different too much. Salah was sent in since a start of second half but he failed to help Liverpool. Generally after return from his injury, Salah does not have too good performances for Liverpool. He did not have good sense of space and his sensitiveness in his shots was lower than before.

Salah looks to need more time to return his best performances but this season comes to the ending weeks and Liverpool no longer control their chances in Europa League and Premier League.

Yes indeed, I personally don't care whether Salah is played or not because after all, basically at this moment Liverpool have better quality compared to Atalanta. Also, this first leg match is also played at Anfield andalso, based on statistical records in this match also that Liverpool have better dominance than Atalanta. But still, Liverpool failed to get good results at home, instead of getting good results at home in fact Liverpool lost with a big score of 0-3. With a defeat with a big score like this, I personally think it will be a difficult task for Liverpool to be able to turn things around in the second leg later, clearly this is a bad result for Liverpool and I'm sure not I only who lost the bet because of Liverpool bad results in this match.

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April 12, 2024, 03:58:38 PM
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The mistake Klopp made was to underestimate Atalanta, believing that his second team players could beat Atalanta since they have proven to be good in some of the matches he had them play in PL matches when Liverpool's top players were on injuries. However, the second team didn't deliver as expected of them, I wonder what strategy Klopp will decide to use when Liverpool faces Atalanta on Thursday after they played against Crystal Palace on Sunday.
It will be too bad if Liverpool wins Atalanta with more than 3 goals and also loses to lift the Premier League title which they are giving all their best to, to lift it
What Klopp did was quite wrong because they kept some of the main players on the bench, Atlanta did not have too good a performance in the league and they also did not win in the last 3 games in the league so maybe Klopp thinks Atlanta is not capable of winning at Anfield, I think Klopp at this time will definitely regret his decision for underestimating Atlanta, because after all Liverpool will have a difficult job to Looking for a 4-goal aggregate win at home to Atlanta without getting a fight from Atlanta, while Atlanta of course they only need to find a draw to make Liverpool out of the Europa League this season.

The 3-0 defeat to Atlanta certainly made Liverpool now questionable as favourites to win the Europa League ,and I think all of us here will of course see Leverkusen as a strong candidate to win this season if there are no surprises in the second leg, relying on substitutes in that game is not a good and right decision for Liverpool and I think Klopp is to blame for the defeat.

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April 12, 2024, 04:04:33 PM
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It's not just that Liverpool has little chance of advancing to the semifinals, I even think that there is almost no possibility for Liverpool, losing by 3 goals at a time makes it almost impossible for the Liverpool team to turn things around in the second leg when they play against Atalanta.
What happened was a big surprise, no one expected that Liverpool would lose by a big score at home.
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It is obvious that after 0-3 at home, the team has practically no chance of advancing to the next round on aggregate. At the moment, the teams' chances of reaching the semi-finals are assessed as follows:

Atalanta - 1.14
Liverpool - 5.80

1.14 doesn’t look very interesting, but essentially +14% is easy money. I don’t see the option that Liverpool will die in this game given the fact that they have chances in the main tournament - the Premier League. And Atalanta, having played the first game without substitutions (one in the 89th minute can’t be counted), will most likely rest (playing with the second team) in the game with Verona and will be in top shape again in the return match.

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April 12, 2024, 04:08:37 PM
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Is incredible how competitive and hard is the football world today, for example we see right now Liverpool is having a sensationals eason until this week, when they lose some points for Premier LEague and after that they suffer this horrible lose for Europa LEague, in only one week seems like all the built in the season is gonna fall apart for only 2 matches, incredible.
Well all they have built in the season isn't falling apart just yet but then they still have a chance to fix everything if they can quickly snap out of the mood that this losses has brought them and begin to get on with making good progress into improving for the games ahead so they will be able to still maintain good form and position enough for a chance to lifting one of the trophies before the end of the season.

Normally football isn't an easy game and has never promised to be because it's actually coming with a whole lot of strength and passion with emotions which also builds up for uncertainties due to the various technicalities involved, in as much as sometimes we may want to see that some of the teams are appearing superior to some, it still not a guarantee that they are going to easily win such a team without out putting in the required efforts, even when such efforts are been put in, you still find out that they sometimes don't get to achieve the kind of victory they aught to achieve because of the uncertainties that may arise in cause of the game.

The case of Liverpool and Atlanta as seen in yesterday's game, is a typical example that the superiority of a team over the other isn't enough to be sure they were going to beat the other team always, sometimes these factors may just be things that comes up while they are on the pitch or the other team just have hard luck and probably some technical hitches around them may all contribute to them loosing.

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April 12, 2024, 04:14:59 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.
This is an embarrassing moment for Liverpool to be defeated in their home, at early stages i thought they will be a come back for Liverpool but unfortunately it didn't happened and Atalanta end the match with 3-0, Liverpool that people were having hope for to lift up the trophy are now facing defeat in their home for the first leg while the second leg will be away and my question is that can they bounce back to score three goals to nothing? From the beginning when i so there previous game before this match i thought it going to be in favour of Liverpool because Atalanta lost their last to game and both are away that is the reason i have much confidence in Liverpool since Atalanta performances are low in away game but the reverse is the case.

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April 12, 2024, 04:20:18 PM
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However, if you look at the results in the first leg, where Liverpool lost 0-3, even though they were playing at home. I think Liverpool no longer has a big chance of qualifying for the semifinals or even more so the final. Their opportunities are not yet completely exhausted but it is clear that it will be a very tough struggle for Liverpool. Recently, Atalanta has not been playing well enough in Serie A but they still tend to be dangerous when playing at home.

Meanwhile, for Bayer Leverkusen, it looks like they will have it easy path to making it to the final because their performance is truly promising. Whoever the enemy is, it is likely that Leverkusen will always be ready to face their opponent.

That's true, indeed with that defeat I think Liverpool may have given up hope, because their chances of qualifying for the semifinals are not great. Even though they may still be able to pursue the opportunities that still exist, it's true what you said, it will be difficult for them. because with the next match coming up, they will face teams whose performance is quite good. they have to be able to produce consecutive wins to be able to improve their points but that will be very difficult.

especially in the second leg when they face Atalanta again, I'm afraid their mentality will no longer be good, with that of course they will play with a lack of confidence. but even so, it is impossible for them to give up, of course they will do their best to improve things. As for Leverkusen, in my opinion it is clear that they can easily advance to the final because their always good matches make them a team that is unbeatable, and I think they are increasingly confident to face the next teams.

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April 12, 2024, 04:24:22 PM
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Had Salah been included in the starting XI, the outcome of the match might have been different. In the first half, Liverpool's attack did not play well. And this is why Atalanta's players become more confident. And that's why we saw a better performance from Atalanta's players in the second half.
I don't think if Salah was chosen for a start squad, this match can be different too much. Salah was sent in since a start of second half but he failed to help Liverpool. Generally after return from his injury, Salah does not have too good performances for Liverpool. He did not have good sense of space and his sensitiveness in his shots was lower than before.

Salah looks to need more time to return his best performances but this season comes to the ending weeks and Liverpool no longer control their chances in Europa League and Premier League.

I don't think so. I would say Liverpool players would have been confident if Salah was in the squad. Even if Salah didn't play well, we could have seen more organized gameplay from Liverpool.

Salah is a very experienced player. So having such experienced players in the squad naturally gives the young players confidence. On the other hand, the opponent would have at least two defenders to block Salah. So Liverpool's attacking players would have scored opportunities. It would also have been a bit difficult for Atalanta's players to counter-attack.

However, I think the main reason for Liverpool's defeat in this match is their match strategy. Atalanta have relatively few attacks. But each of their attacks was very organized and planned. There is no doubt that Atalanta performed well in this match.

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April 12, 2024, 04:43:46 PM
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People doubted Leverkusen's ability after the previous match against Qarabag where Leverkusen seemed difficult to win against Qarabag in the previous match, whereas against West Ham, which was said to be a big threat to Leverkusen, they could easily win by two goals against West Ham, another match that surprised Liverpool who To be the favorite to win against Atalanta at Anfield, it turned out that they actually lost by three goals without replying in front of all their supporters. it was really a complicated match for Liverpool to win at their home ground.
Leverkusen was able to prove it in this first leg by successfully beating West Ham with a score of 2-0. Their game was also very good, they controlled the game and they didn't give West Ham a chance in this match. This victory makes it easier for them in the second leg, because they only need a draw, or if they lose as long as it doesn't go by more than 1 goal then they will definitely be in the semifinals.

In fact, what was surprising was when we saw Livrpool who had to lose badly to their guests Atalanta. How could they have lost so badly like that, because at the start they were big favorites to win this match, but instead they had to swallow the bitter pill because they lost in front of their own supporters. In the second leg they will have a difficult job, because they have to catch an aggregate of 3 goals first before turning things around. 3 goals is a number that is not easy for them to achieve.

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April 12, 2024, 04:54:19 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.

Atalanta have been a loose cannon for quite a few years now, alternating amazing results with very poor ones. Obviously no one would have ever expected such a sweeping result at Hanfield from Atalanta, Liverpool are one of the strongest European teams and no one would have ever bet on a defeat especially when they play in their own stadium. For my part Gasperini made a historic miracle with this victory, I only hope that in the return match the result will not be overturned

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April 12, 2024, 04:56:54 PM
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I think Atalanta scoring that much was the unexpected part of the game but we also need to realize that I think it's quite obvious that Liverpool can't keep trusting Nunez like this. This team is lacking attacking players like crazy, sure Salah is great but that's about it, they really need to get a real striker that would be really good. Like if Aatalantas striker was at Liverpool and if Nunez was at Atalanta, I guarantee you that Liverpool would have won 3-0 instead.

The problem is that Liverpool had some defensive mistakes as well, but I am guessing that was mainly because they were trying to find score, which meant risking the defense and that is why the results looked like this. I still think they can get a comeback anyway.

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April 12, 2024, 05:02:22 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.
This is an embarrassing moment for Liverpool to be defeated in their home, at early stages i thought they will be a come back for Liverpool but unfortunately it didn't happened and Atalanta end the match with 3-0, Liverpool that people were having hope for to lift up the trophy are now facing defeat in their home for the first leg while the second leg will be away and my question is that can they bounce back to score three goals to nothing? From the beginning when i so there previous game before this match i thought it going to be in favour of Liverpool because Atalanta lost their last to game and both are away that is the reason i have much confidence in Liverpool since Atalanta performances are low in away game but the reverse is the case.

Yeah right, I think almost all of us didn't expect Liverpool to be beaten at home but that's the fact of the matter and most gamblers lose their bets, Liverpool is really in a difficult situation because they have to win with a difference of 3-4 goals in the second leg while Liverpool will play away, it is clear that Liverpool need a miracle to change it. At first I was very confident that Liverpool would win easily, I even bet in the first half lol.  Today's match proved that anything can happen in football it can even outwit everyone's predictions.

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April 12, 2024, 05:12:50 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.
This is an embarrassing moment for Liverpool to be defeated in their home, at early stages i thought they will be a come back for Liverpool but unfortunately it didn't happened and Atalanta end the match with 3-0, Liverpool that people were having hope for to lift up the trophy are now facing defeat in their home for the first leg while the second leg will be away and my question is that can they bounce back to score three goals to nothing? From the beginning when i so there previous game before this match i thought it going to be in favour of Liverpool because Atalanta lost their last to game and both are away that is the reason i have much confidence in Liverpool since Atalanta performances are low in away game but the reverse is the case.
Yeah right, I think almost all of us didn't expect Liverpool to be beaten at home but that's the fact of the matter and most gamblers lose their bets, Liverpool is really in a difficult situation because they have to win with a difference of 3-4 goals in the second leg while Liverpool will play away, it is clear that Liverpool need a miracle to change it. At first I was very confident that Liverpool would win easily, I even bet in the first half lol.  Today's match proved that anything can happen in football it can even outwit everyone's predictions.

A lot of gamblers have lost money in this match. And we all thought Liverpool would win the match. First of all Liverpool players were in great form. Secondly it was Liverpool's home match. So probably no one can imagine that the Liverpool team will be defeated in this match, even with such a big margin of 3-0. I haven't seen any gamblers around me who bet on Atalanta winning this match. Everyone was betting on Liverpool's victory. Very few gamblers bet on the draw.

Liverpool lost this match because of bad defense. I don't know why Liverpool's defenders suddenly performed so poorly in this match. Liverpool's defense was strong enough. However, they performed poorly against Atalanta in this match.

If the margin of defeat was less I would say Liverpool still have a chance of qualifying for the next round. But after a 3-0 home defeat, a 4-0 away win for Liverpool is highly unlikely.

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April 12, 2024, 05:29:46 PM
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Had Salah been included in the starting XI, the outcome of the match might have been different. In the first half, Liverpool's attack did not play well. And this is why Atalanta's players become more confident. And that's why we saw a better performance from Atalanta's players in the second half.
I don't think if Salah was chosen for a start squad, this match can be different too much. Salah was sent in since a start of second half but he failed to help Liverpool. Generally after returning from his injury, Salah does not have too good performances for Liverpool. He did not have good sense of space and his sensitiveness in his shots was lower than before.
Liverpool can at very least have bigger chance to score rather than losing with zero score like that. Starting salah from the bench is the biggest mistake made by klopp in this game. Salah was still playing as usual and he has no problem with his performance after he fully recovered from his injury.
Im saying this is klopp's mistake since he was thinking if liverpool could win against atalanta easily. Another stupid mistake made by liverpool's coach to benched its best players rather than use all of them since the first half. Liverpool can now focus on the league only.

Salah looks to need more time to return his best performances but this season comes to the ending weeks and Liverpool no longer control their chances in Europa League and Premier League.
There's no guarantee giving him more time will help him to return on his best performance. Things are always moving forward and liverpool was too dependent on him. van dijk is also performing so badly in that match.
He was not even pressuring atlanta's attacker, but he was always gong to the bottom.

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April 12, 2024, 05:48:41 PM
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I don't agree that Liverpool didn't show interest in the competition, they did. They were simply outplayed by Atalanta. I think Liverpool overrated themselves or they underrated Atalanta. Most Liverpool fans felt it would be a walk in the park because they were playing at home too. English fans need to follow other leagues more often, EPL teams are not the only good teams in Europe.

I don't think Liverpool will make a comeback against Atalanta. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's extremely difficult considering the fact they're they're playing away from home. How are they going to score 4 goals and make sure Atalanta doesn't score at home?


So what would be the explanation for Liverpool not playing the full team that has been playing in the Premier League?
Yesterday Salah, Díaz and Szoboszlai started the game on the bench

I'll ask you another question that might help understand the importance that Liverpool has given to the Europa League

If Liverpool had been playing in the Champions League quarter-finals yesterday, do you think they would have spared any of their best players?

But again, it's just my opinion hehe, I respect yours  Cheesy

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April 12, 2024, 05:52:35 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.
This is an embarrassing moment for Liverpool to be defeated in their home, at early stages i thought they will be a come back for Liverpool but unfortunately it didn't happened and Atalanta end the match with 3-0, Liverpool that people were having hope for to lift up the trophy are now facing defeat in their home for the first leg while the second leg will be away and my question is that can they bounce back to score three goals to nothing? From the beginning when i so there previous game before this match i thought it going to be in favour of Liverpool because Atalanta lost their last to game and both are away that is the reason i have much confidence in Liverpool since Atalanta performances are low in away game but the reverse is the case.

Yeah right, I think almost all of us didn't expect Liverpool to be beaten at home but that's the fact of the matter and most gamblers lose their bets, Liverpool is really in a difficult situation because they have to win with a difference of 3-4 goals in the second leg while Liverpool will play away, it is clear that Liverpool need a miracle to change it. At first I was very confident that Liverpool would win easily, I even bet in the first half lol.  Today's match proved that anything can happen in football it can even outwit everyone's predictions.

Well, the truth is, this is something that surprised me a lot, the one I saw who did everything to be able to recover the game was Luis Diaz, I don't know, I know they wanted everything but the truth is I saw Luis Díaz with a lot of heart, for me the mistake It was all about the goalkeeper, a goalkeeper cannot make that mistake, so in view of these things they have it very clear for the next game , I think Klopp right now has to restructure the strategies they have for the Europa League, it would be very sad if they have left this competition in that way, then in the face of all these things it can be said that Liverpool has to give everything, they have no choice. By choice, they are also fighting for first place in the PL, and apart from this small problem that they have now in the Europa League, all this is enough for them to exert great pressure.


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April 12, 2024, 05:58:10 PM
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I think Atalanta scoring that much was the unexpected part of the game but we also need to realize that I think it's quite obvious that Liverpool can't keep trusting Nunez like this. This team is lacking attacking players like crazy, sure Salah is great but that's about it, they really need to get a real striker that would be really good. Like if Aatalantas striker was at Liverpool and if Nunez was at Atalanta, I guarantee you that Liverpool would have won 3-0 instead.

The problem is that Liverpool had some defensive mistakes as well, but I am guessing that was mainly because they were trying to find score, which meant risking the defense and that is why the results looked like this. I still think they can get a comeback anyway.

Yes indeed, Atalanta victory with a big score like that is a result that is certainly surprising and maybe, if Atalanta only won with a thin score like for example 0-1 or only has a gap of 1 goal, then it might still be reasonable result. But yes, the reality is that Liverpool were completely humiliated at home although indeed, as a big team like Liverpool there will probably always be a chance to be able to rise in the second leg later. But still, because in the second leg Liverpool played away against Atalanta, and basically Atalanta also cannot be underestimated at all, then I think it will still be difficult for Liverpool to be able to turn things around. But maybe, Liverpool will target to win with a score of 3-0 also in normal time 90 in the second leg later, until finally the match is determined on penalties, at least such a scenario is still possible.

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April 12, 2024, 06:00:22 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.
This is an embarrassing moment for Liverpool to be defeated in their home, at early stages i thought they will be a come back for Liverpool but unfortunately it didn't happened and Atalanta end the match with 3-0, Liverpool that people were having hope for to lift up the trophy are now facing defeat in their home for the first leg while the second leg will be away and my question is that can they bounce back to score three goals to nothing? From the beginning when i so there previous game before this match i thought it going to be in favour of Liverpool because Atalanta lost their last to game and both are away that is the reason i have much confidence in Liverpool since Atalanta performances are low in away game but the reverse is the case.
Liverpool was expected to win the game just because of how solid their squad is this season when I see top teams in europa league I don't really expect much from them because most times big teams like Liverpool don't take the Europa League as their major target. I think last season when arsenal was in the Europa League many thought arsenal will be the team to win the league but along the line they started performing bad. Liverpool is good they may likely start playing poor I europa league because the europa league is not their main target, it is always like that in europa league. I won't be surprised if any of the strong teams fails not winning the league title this season.

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