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Question: Who among you here is gambling at work?
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December 18, 2023, 03:26:35 AM
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Of course, it depends on the situation and the situation also depends on the person's point of view, or that means everyone has a different point of view and decision in every situation, even though according to them it is good to choose but maybe for other people it is not recommended and should be avoided.

Actually from the two things you mentioned that might be an option / chosen by others basically in common sense both are really bad actions, especially if you do it when you are focused on doing other things, especially in the workplace that provides you with income to survive, no matter whether it's alcohol or gambling or even illegal drugs which basically have a negative impact all of that should really be avoided, there is no reason that makes sense with whatever they say for a defense.

The mention of "even illegal drugs" is interesting because drinking alcohol actually is illegal in some countries.

So, depending on where you are working, the legality of the things you are doing are going to change.

At the end of the day it's what the society deems acceptable to do at the workplace. And also it depends on how other see you there, etc.

Some people can get away with certain things, while others can't.

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December 18, 2023, 02:23:41 PM
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Of course, it depends on the situation and the situation also depends on the person's point of view, or that means everyone has a different point of view and decision in every situation, even though according to them it is good to choose but maybe for other people it is not recommended and should be avoided.

Yes, some may think that gambling is work is wrong while others may have a different point of view. I think as long as you can balance between the office work and gambling, and the office work is not compromised because of your gambling, then it may be on to gamble at work.

Basically it is very dangerous if someone already thinks or assumes that gambling becomes a necessity, such ideas should really be avoided, after all this is gambling which is more famous for its negative impacts than the positives that we can hardly get. Although different points of view are always a certain thing in every individual but they should be able to feel if indeed their point of view is wrong which causes them to get involved in some problems, especially financial and that should be an indication that their point of view and way of thinking on gambling is wrong or not right.

On the other hand it is true, that as long as they can balance everything well especially in terms of time and finances and also do not interfere with work activities then maybe it will not be a serious problem, but basically only one thing I would say is that dividing time wisely according to its portion is better to do.

Actually from the two things you mentioned that might be an option / chosen by others basically in common sense both are really bad actions, especially if you do it when you are focused on doing other things, especially in the workplace that provides you with income to survive, no matter whether it's alcohol or gambling or even illegal drugs which basically have a negative impact all of that should really be avoided, there is no reason that makes sense with whatever they say for a defense.

Office work give you income and you should not compromise of the office work because of gambling. Sometimes you complete the office work and have time, then you can gamble. but if there is a pending office work and you start to gambling, and ignoring the office work, then it is not only unethical but also you are not faithful to your job and duty.

If all that goes well or that means it is still in a safe situation even though you are doing work and gambling at the same time but on the other hand there are still consequences that should be worried about, it is your main job which of course as I said earlier that it is the income that finances your life, so from this alone they should be able to consider which is more important and which is not necessary, after all there is still plenty of time for you to gamble right? You can still engage in gambling when all your work is finished, or that means when you go home and you can gamble at home in a relaxed and calm situation. If you persist in gambling at work then obviously the risk is that you might lose your job if your boss finds out about the activity.

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December 24, 2023, 12:25:34 PM
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Of course, it depends on the situation and the situation also depends on the person's point of view, or that means everyone has a different point of view and decision in every situation, even though according to them it is good to choose but maybe for other people it is not recommended and should be avoided.

Actually from the two things you mentioned that might be an option / chosen by others basically in common sense both are really bad actions, especially if you do it when you are focused on doing other things, especially in the workplace that provides you with income to survive, no matter whether it's alcohol or gambling or even illegal drugs which basically have a negative impact all of that should really be avoided, there is no reason that makes sense with whatever they say for a defense.

Indeed, there can be a lot of "reasons" for justifying their behavior, gambling or drinking alcohol or taking drugs at work, but we all know, you just shouldn't do those things at work, that's all. You are paid for doing something and you should do what you are paid for. If you are paid for gambling, like some influencers are paid for spinning slots in their streams, then, as strange as it may sound, they must be gambling at their work.

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December 24, 2023, 12:36:14 PM
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I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

Let me tell you, the feeling is far from pleasant. It leads to a decline in your work performance, which can have significant consequences since that's your primary source of income. It might be manageable if you're winning, but the harsh reality is often quite the opposite. Even when we do win, we tend to spend most of our winnings, so we don't treat it as business money. This leaves us in a precarious situation when we lose because the money we initially budgeted for our families gets diverted to cover unexpected gambling-related expenses.

I'd like to hear from those of you who have experienced this or are still dealing with it. Please share your testimonies.

Those are the reasons i am not playing while working. In fact i rather not play if i haven't mentally prepared for it. For the losses and wins. Because those are very distracting and i have already hard time focusing on things i should prioritize in my life. My life is one constant look for distraction, so i need less of it, not more. Especially when it's so rewarding it's hard for me to think anythnig else.

So, while working, i often keep noise cancelling headphones. Block my changes to login to any social media. My friends know i can't be disturbed while on the flow of work, because i get so much done when i am not disturbed and on the "flow". But all it takes is one distraction and it can take hours to get back into it. And even if i would bet on the lunch, i would probably wonder how that match is going that i bet on, or what my next steps are going to be for the money i lost or won.

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December 24, 2023, 04:25:10 PM
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Office work give you income and you should not compromise of the office work because of gambling. Sometimes you complete the office work and have time, then you can gamble. but if there is a pending office work and you start to gambling, and ignoring the office work, then it is not only unethical but also you are not faithful to your job and duty.
This is true. Those of us who already work in office jobs should not do anything that could violate office rules. We have been given a salary commensurate with our work, so we shouldn't waste it just because we want to gamble, which we can't resist. We should be able to separate the desire to gamble from work at the office so that we can only focus on work at the office. Apart from that, we can gamble again when we go home or after we get home from work, we can go to a cafe to gamble. Gambling at the office is not worth doing because we only risk losing our job. And if we were fired from our jobs just because of gambling, how would we explain it to our families? That will be a big problem for us and our family because we will have difficulty meeting our daily needs. After all, we have lost our jobs at the office, so we no longer get paid.

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December 24, 2023, 05:13:54 PM
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Office work give you income and you should not compromise of the office work because of gambling. Sometimes you complete the office work and have time, then you can gamble. but if there is a pending office work and you start to gambling, and ignoring the office work, then it is not only unethical but also you are not faithful to your job and duty.
This is true. Those of us who already work in office jobs should not do anything that could violate office rules. We have been given a salary commensurate with our work, so we shouldn't waste it just because we want to gamble, which we can't resist. We should be able to separate the desire to gamble from work at the office so that we can only focus on work at the office. Apart from that, we can gamble again when we go home or after we get home from work, we can go to a cafe to gamble. Gambling at the office is not worth doing because we only risk losing our job. And if we were fired from our jobs just because of gambling, how would we explain it to our families? That will be a big problem for us and our family because we will have difficulty meeting our daily needs. After all, we have lost our jobs at the office, so we no longer get paid.

Yeah, I agree. Doing office work and gambling should be separated. It really just needs the right sequence of time management. Also, a self-discipline in order to follow those time management you’ve created and also to avoid future difficulty regarding to our real work and office life. We must remember that gambling combines luck, intelligence, and the strategy that you need to apply. Its assurance of making money out of gambling is just below 10%. While our real work in life is the one who assures to give us the amount of money, we need in our real life which we call salary. It might be dangerous to gamble at work since it can put our financial security in jeopardy.
Some companies have strict rules regarding their workers; if they observe you engaging in extraneous activities that could interfere with your job, they may take disciplinary or ethical action against you. I prefer that way though.
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December 24, 2023, 05:16:17 PM
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I used to do it heavily in the last job.I changed for a better job during December and I am with another 8 persons in the same office so I have a lot of difficulties to gamble here,it is almost impossible no matter that I have put a super privacy filter to my phone.At the other job I was alone in the office and I could open any browser I wanted as I was the IT admin and I had full access to every site much different to the other users while in here I am the last guy coming into office so I stay calm and I don't talk much.

I will be honest,this is a much better paying job but I miss the liberty to do anything I liked I used to do in the old job.

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December 24, 2023, 05:34:55 PM
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I've tried several times but I would say it's just a casual gamble. Before I started working from home I do have a huge circle of friends in our company who shared the same passion for playing MOBA games. Every lunch time we put bets playing with each other. I don't dwell to much when losing since I find it fun and the bet is not something that is significant. I think the impact of gambling while at work depends on the amount of you have put while gambling, but if you'll just do it for fun and a little thrill it doesn't matter if you win or lose. Just to add, we do this during our lunch break, so I don't consider this unethical in terms of my working practices.
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December 24, 2023, 05:43:18 PM
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I used to do it heavily in the last job.I changed for a better job during December and I am with another 8 persons in the same office so I have a lot of difficulties to gamble here,it is almost impossible no matter that I have put a super privacy filter to my phone.At the other job I was alone in the office and I could open any browser I wanted as I was the IT admin and I had full access to every site much different to the other users while in here I am the last guy coming into office so I stay calm and I don't talk much.

I will be honest,this is a much better paying job but I miss the liberty to do anything I liked I used to do in the old job.

Better paying job means bigger responsibility, although you have the access to any site you want since you are the IT administrator but you can't gamble anymore, that's probably because you have a lot of priorities to do and you can't insert gambling during office hours. Well, I understand that, as an employee who aim to get promoted and to last in a company, we should know our priorities, and if gambling has to be sacrifice, then we should do it without hesitation.

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It might be worse, or not, depending of course on the situation.

Probably the people that gamble at work will say alcohol is worse and the people that drink at work will say that gambling is worse  Grin

At the end of the day, if the activity generates something negative to you, then it's basically an addiction.

Of course, it depends on the situation and the situation also depends on the person's point of view, or that means everyone has a different point of view and decision in every situation, even though according to them it is good to choose but maybe for other people it is not recommended and should be avoided.

Actually from the two things you mentioned that might be an option / chosen by others basically in common sense both are really bad actions, especially if you do it when you are focused on doing other things, especially in the workplace that provides you with income to survive, no matter whether it's alcohol or gambling or even illegal drugs which basically have a negative impact all of that should really be avoided, there is no reason that makes sense with whatever they say for a defense.
It's true that it depends on the person's own point of view. If they are determined to do other things while at work, such as drinking alcohol or gambling, this will have an impact on their performance and for those who continue to do it, it will cause someone to not focus on their work, hence their attitude. such as gambling or drinking alcohol should be avoided while working because these activities can still be done when you are at home and not working.

Still, this is not the right choice for those who choose to gamble or drink alcohol and it is true as you said that both will have a bad impact when they do it while working. Because it is very likely that if they do not focus on their work they will just get fired and this will have a serious impact if the job is your only source of income so it's better to avoid things that will harm yourself.
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I used to do it heavily in the last job.I changed for a better job during December and I am with another 8 persons in the same office so I have a lot of difficulties to gamble here,it is almost impossible no matter that I have put a super privacy filter to my phone.At the other job I was alone in the office and I could open any browser I wanted as I was the IT admin and I had full access to every site much different to the other users while in here I am the last guy coming into office so I stay calm and I don't talk much.

I will be honest,this is a much better paying job but I miss the liberty to do anything I liked I used to do in the old job.

Better paying job means bigger responsibility, although you have the access to any site you want since you are the IT administrator but you can't gamble anymore, that's probably because you have a lot of priorities to do and you can't insert gambling during office hours. Well, I understand that, as an employee who aim to get promoted and to last in a company, we should know our priorities, and if gambling has to be sacrifice, then we should do it without hesitation.

Even if you have any access to gambling sites, and if you are responsible, you will not do that thing especially since it is prohibited and included in the rules and regulations of the company. Being an IT administrator, it comes with complex task that's why I don't think you can synchronized it with any unrelated IT works.



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December 25, 2023, 03:17:52 AM
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Better paying job means bigger responsibility, although you have the access to any site you want since you are the IT administrator but you can't gamble anymore, that's probably because you have a lot of priorities to do and you can't insert gambling during office hours. Well, I understand that, as an employee who aim to get promoted and to last in a company, we should know our priorities, and if gambling has to be sacrifice, then we should do it without hesitation.

Not always the case really, sometimes you can have a job with less responsibility and be paid way more.

It all depends on the amount of value you bring to the company.

So, for example, if you make the company millions of dollars for your direct job, then you will be paid a lot of money for it.

But, on the other hand, if you don't bring as much perceived value to the company, then you won't be paid as much.

It doesn't matter if you have a lot or a little responsibilities, it matter how much perceived value you bring.

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December 25, 2023, 04:45:10 AM
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I used to do it heavily in the last job.I changed for a better job during December and I am with another 8 persons in the same office so I have a lot of difficulties to gamble here,it is almost impossible no matter that I have put a super privacy filter to my phone.At the other job I was alone in the office and I could open any browser I wanted as I was the IT admin and I had full access to every site much different to the other users while in here I am the last guy coming into office so I stay calm and I don't talk much.

I will be honest,this is a much better paying job but I miss the liberty to do anything I liked I used to do in the old job.

Better paying job means bigger responsibility, although you have the access to any site you want since you are the IT administrator but you can't gamble anymore, that's probably because you have a lot of priorities to do and you can't insert gambling during office hours. Well, I understand that, as an employee who aim to get promoted and to last in a company, we should know our priorities, and if gambling has to be sacrifice, then we should do it without hesitation.
All these crucial jobs are not free because behind it is a significant salaries to be earned by an individual and the job also comes with a whole lot of stressing actions which is expected of the employer in question to do his job, secure and satisfied whatever needs that arises before paving path to settle for other priorities drawn out of his schedule for the days and that also include gambling. A working class gambling doesn't mean any negative vibe or call for alarm because he has the money and he doesn't play as if he's all earnings depend on the gambling system, he just pick one or two sure game and place wager, then he relaxed and watch out how everything will play out.

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Yes, some may think that gambling is work is wrong while others may have a different point of view. I think as long as you can balance between the office work and gambling, and the office work is not compromised because of your gambling, then it may be on to gamble at work.
Yes, now everything is much simpler than before. Every person has a smartphone with Internet access. So what's the problem with spinning slots during your lunch break? Even and not only during vacation. )) But this kind of thing already looks like a gaming addiction. Everyone, of course, makes their own decision.

But why should your work colleagues know about this? There may be some very unpleasant rumors that will reach the authorities. Some companies have a very negative attitude towards such hobbies.

 
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It might be worse, or not, depending of course on the situation.

Probably the people that gamble at work will say alcohol is worse and the people that drink at work will say that gambling is worse  Grin

At the end of the day, if the activity generates something negative to you, then it's basically an addiction.

Of course, it depends on the situation and the situation also depends on the person's point of view, or that means everyone has a different point of view and decision in every situation, even though according to them it is good to choose but maybe for other people it is not recommended and should be avoided.

Actually from the two things you mentioned that might be an option / chosen by others basically in common sense both are really bad actions, especially if you do it when you are focused on doing other things, especially in the workplace that provides you with income to survive, no matter whether it's alcohol or gambling or even illegal drugs which basically have a negative impact all of that should really be avoided, there is no reason that makes sense with whatever they say for a defense.
It's true that it depends on the person's own point of view. If they are determined to do other things while at work, such as drinking alcohol or gambling, this will have an impact on their performance and for those who continue to do it, it will cause someone to not focus on their work, hence their attitude. such as gambling or drinking alcohol should be avoided while working because these activities can still be done when you are at home and not working.

Still, this is not the right choice for those who choose to gamble or drink alcohol and it is true as you said that both will have a bad impact when they do it while working. Because it is very likely that if they do not focus on their work they will just get fired and this will have a serious impact if the job is your only source of income so it's better to avoid things that will harm yourself.
Mixing work with habits like gambling and drinking is a disaster waiting to happen. It's not just poor; it's disastrous, I can assure you. These distractions at work? They undermine not just your concentration but also your reliability and trustworthiness. Every decision you make on the job is like laying a foundation stone for your professional future. Drinking and gambling at work? Using your hands, you're removing the basic blocks. It's playing with fire for people who depend on their employment for their only source of money, and it's a quick route to professional disaster

Responsible gambling isn't the problem here. It concerns the where and when. As a recreational pastime, responsible gambling can fit into a balanced lifestyle. It's important to recognise your boundaries, weigh the dangers, and keep it apart from your work life. The true art is in keeping work and play apart from one another. It's about having the intelligence and discernment to understand that work time is sacred and personal time is your own. combining the two? That's the first sign of problems. You can enjoy both if you keep them apart and don't run the risk of losing everything you've worked for

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December 25, 2023, 11:33:17 AM
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Yeah, I agree. Doing office work and gambling should be separated. It really just needs the right sequence of time management. Also, a self-discipline in order to follow those time management you’ve created and also to avoid future difficulty regarding to our real work and office life. We must remember that gambling combines luck, intelligence, and the strategy that you need to apply. Its assurance of making money out of gambling is just below 10%. While our real work in life is the one who assures to give us the amount of money, we need in our real life which we call salary. It might be dangerous to gamble at work since it can put our financial security in jeopardy.
Some companies have strict rules regarding their workers; if they observe you engaging in extraneous activities that could interfere with your job, they may take disciplinary or ethical action against you. I prefer that way though.
We have to be able to manage our time so that we don't disturb each other. When we are in the office, we have to focus on our work, and even though we are taking a break, we have to use it to rest and not gamble, even though some people can gamble and are not affected by the results they get in gambling. However, an emotional factor will affect their work performance, and when they experience loss, it may affect them that day. After all, we have more time to gamble if we are at home, so we can use it to relieve stress and fatigue or just want to relax by gambling. The important thing is that we understand when to gamble and don't need to force ourselves to keep gambling when working. When we work in an office, we can make money from our salary, while if we gamble, we may not be able to make money. From there, we should be able to think about what is more appropriate to do, and that's where we have to be wise in using gambling.

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December 25, 2023, 11:37:07 AM
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Let make it a thing of more of being practical here, even if we are the boss of ourselves, it's still unethical to engage gambling when we are at the place of work, in some rare occasions we can manage to do that when at our leisure or break time but on a common sense that shouldn't come along with the time schedule for work and we are there busy gambling all because we are the boss of our own, this is why so many failed in their businesses because it lack serious concentrations.
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December 25, 2023, 12:29:12 PM
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Yes, some may think that gambling is work is wrong while others may have a different point of view. I think as long as you can balance between the office work and gambling, and the office work is not compromised because of your gambling, then it may be on to gamble at work.
Yes, now everything is much simpler than before. Every person has a smartphone with Internet access. So what's the problem with spinning slots during your lunch break? Even and not only during vacation. )) But this kind of thing already looks like a gaming addiction. Everyone, of course, makes their own decision.

But why should your work colleagues know about this? There may be some very unpleasant rumors that will reach the authorities. Some companies have a very negative attitude towards such hobbies.

If this is a big deal with the company, this should not be done. Gambling during at work can be easily violated if the company doesn't have the internal control to prevent this from happening. I think they should implement such control effectively since some of their employees might be tempted in gambling. And they can't assume that there employees don't gamble since no one would say they gamble just to be hired for the job, but in reality, they are actually gambling. 

Although we can say that the control is on us employees, but a company has interest to protect, if their people make mistakes in doing their job due to lack of concentration, that will affect the company as a whole, so prevention is always better as the potential problem is already seen.
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December 25, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
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Yes, some may think that gambling is work is wrong while others may have a different point of view. I think as long as you can balance between the office work and gambling, and the office work is not compromised because of your gambling, then it may be on to gamble at work.
Yes, now everything is much simpler than before. Every person has a smartphone with Internet access. So what's the problem with spinning slots during your lunch break? Even and not only during vacation. )) But this kind of thing already looks like a gaming addiction. Everyone, of course, makes their own decision.

But why should your work colleagues know about this? There may be some very unpleasant rumors that will reach the authorities. Some companies have a very negative attitude towards such hobbies.

If this is a big deal with the company, this should not be done. Gambling during at work can be easily violated if the company doesn't have the internal control to prevent this from happening. I think they should implement such control effectively since some of their employees might be tempted in gambling. And they can't assume that there employees don't gamble since no one would say they gamble just to be hired for the job, but in reality, they are actually gambling. 

Although we can say that the control is on us employees, but a company has interest to protect, if their people make mistakes in doing their job due to lack of concentration, that will affect the company as a whole, so prevention is always better as the potential problem is already seen.

I think all companies will never allow their employees to do other activities during working hours, let alone being involved in gambling or what I mean by the  activity they do is gambling during working hours, and it is clear that that will cause quite significant problems. Firstly, they lose concentration  on their main job because their minds are diverted to gambling, and secondly, it is very possible that they are not in the mood to continue working when the results of their gambling disappoint them and make them annoyed. Basically, it is difficult to regulate people to follow the rules if it is just a theory, and one thing that companies  can do to minimize this from happening is to implement full supervision while work activities are in progress, or for example installing CCTV in various corners, of course. It can make gamblers not dare to do other activities during working hours, especially gambling.

As I said above, it is difficult to control other people for companies, especially employees who work and you have also said that companies cannot easily assume that all their employees do not gamble, but the possibility is always there. So I think all of this comes back to the strictness with which existing regulations are applied in the company.

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December 25, 2023, 02:19:25 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Doing office work and gambling should be separated. It really just needs the right sequence of time management. Also, a self-discipline in order to follow those time management you’ve created and also to avoid future difficulty regarding to our real work and office life. We must remember that gambling combines luck, intelligence, and the strategy that you need to apply. Its assurance of making money out of gambling is just below 10%. While our real work in life is the one who assures to give us the amount of money, we need in our real life which we call salary. It might be dangerous to gamble at work since it can put our financial security in jeopardy.
Some companies have strict rules regarding their workers; if they observe you engaging in extraneous activities that could interfere with your job, they may take disciplinary or ethical action against you. I prefer that way though.
We have to be able to manage our time so that we don't disturb each other. When we are in the office, we have to focus on our work, and even though we are taking a break, we have to use it to rest and not gamble, even though some people can gamble and are not affected by the results they get in gambling. However, an emotional factor will affect their work performance, and when they experience loss, it may affect them that day. After all, we have more time to gamble if we are at home, so we can use it to relieve stress and fatigue or just want to relax by gambling. The important thing is that we understand when to gamble and don't need to force ourselves to keep gambling when working. When we work in an office, we can make money from our salary, while if we gamble, we may not be able to make money. From there, we should be able to think about what is more appropriate to do, and that's where we have to be wise in using gambling.
Yes, gambling at work can indeed divert your attention and lower your level of productivity. It could also result in mistakes in our job and make it more difficult for us to meet deadlines. In my opinion, if you lose at gambling to the point where it affects your work, you are being unprofessional, which can harm your reputation. As as a consequence, you may not be able to grow in your career and may pass up opportunities. For example, if your boss notices that you have potential for promotion, you may be given the opportunity to do so, but you change abruptly because of your new vice and start gambling.
You still run the risk of losing your job because you are poor at time management and even include up your gambling habit. Therefore, it is preferable to avoid gambling and instead find a way to manage your stress at work without having an impact on it.
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