[SOLVED] Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan!

[GekkeBelg]

I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

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[goldkingcoiner]

I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

Sure it can. If the false claimee is friends/family with the true claimee and knows about the situation. And perhaps they can get into their e-Mail address., All it takes is to create a wallet address and voila. Stolen.  I think they should only refund to an address previously used for deposits. That might bring an extra layer of security into the whole thing. Especially against people who might try to pre-plan and fake such a scenario in order to claim they never got their refund.

But this is one of those times where KYC comes in handy. (Although I am not a fan of giving strangers government documents, which if leaked or sold, could lead to them having life-long identity theft issues.)

[asyakashi]

I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

Sure it can. If the false claimee is friends/family with the true claimee and knows about the situation. And perhaps they can get into their e-Mail address., All it takes is to create a wallet address and voila. Stolen.  I think they should only refund to an address previously used for deposits. That might bring an extra layer of security into the whole thing. Especially against people who might try to pre-plan and fake such a scenario in order to claim they never got their refund.

But this is one of those times where KYC comes in handy. (Although I am not a fan of giving strangers government documents, which if leaked or sold, could lead to them having life-long identity theft issues.)

The bad side of refunds can also occur if they are returned to the wallet address that made the deposit, because not everyone makes deposits via their personal wallet address, like me, I often make deposits via exchange.

[CODE200]

It seems they have already figured out some way to authenticate and tell whether a refund request is valid or not. I think they already mentioned the way they are doing it for now here in the very thread, anyways.
By the way, I do not think there have actually started to refund fund to this day, they seem to continue to figure out the orders and filtering those which are valid from attempts to claim balances from people trying to take advantage of the situation. If any significant percentage of their gamblers had already started to receive their funds then they would have appeared here showing those proof of reception of fund or something like it, also Betnomi would be eager to start to show some proof of refunds, but it is not the case for now.

With what is currently happening to Betnomi right now, I think that it's going to be difficult for them to pay those people because they're also having an ongoing legal battle that might need some funding and we know that cases like this are expensive and takes a long time to settle either by a settlement or a judgment from the court. It's a good thing that they're starting to list people that are looking for a refund from their casino so they don't have to worry too much about the list as time progresses.

You are being kind of optimistic if you think they can recover up 70 percent of their previous reputation, by the way. When refunds are finished and most of the people is satisfied with them, I would be surprised if they still have a 45 percent. Though, obviously betnomis plan is to work from there and slowly gain everyone's trust again through the months and years ahead.

That's probably the only way to approach this kind of situation, being optimistic. Optimistic that they will be able to return their money as soon as possible. Regards to their reputation, that's going to be rebuilt eventually and it's going to be mended quickly if they completed the refunds. Maybe when they finally did the refund, that's up to them on how they will be able to build their reputation again so for now it is difficult to speculate if they will rebuild that reputation or not.

[Get-Paid.com]

It's not about that, you're not responding to emails.

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

[arwin100]

It's not about that, you're not responding to emails.

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I guess it will take long for them to fix this issue since they have serious problem regarding on locating each affected user since they provably encountering a lot of fake claims at the moment so I guess this is a long time wait before this refund plan will gonna happen.

So if I where the victims and waiting for refund much better if they do don't hope to much for refund plan but they should keep an update in this thread if Betnomi team will really work for it since it determine all if they are true to their words. For now its better not to get any stress on situation and let them do the refund if they want to restore their reputation and if not they are totally done here and might face serious case from people who want to go to legal authorities to sue them for this issue.

[GekkeBelg]

I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

Sure it can. If the false claimee is friends/family with the true claimee and knows about the situation. And perhaps they can get into their e-Mail address., All it takes is to create a wallet address and voila. Stolen.  I think they should only refund to an address previously used for deposits. That might bring an extra layer of security into the whole thing. Especially against people who might try to pre-plan and fake such a scenario in order to claim they never got their refund.

But this is one of those times where KYC comes in handy. (Although I am not a fan of giving strangers government documents, which if leaked or sold, could lead to them having life-long identity theft issues.)

Yeah right, and then "many duplicate claims" happen? As if all the Betnomi customers have friends and family members who are trying to cheat on them?
Sounds very unrealistic.

[Wind_FURY]

And if they really lost database of the client then how will they know the original victims to do the refund? .

This right here cracks me up! I mean, how do you tell me that the database was lost?

Even in the case of a malicious attack or virus corrupting a file, there is still a backup. How can it be possible to loose a digital file like its just a hardcopy data that got missing.

They should salvage whatever is left of their reputation and just effect refund and let's look at something else to adventure on

It's hard to trust a company if they truly "lost" their database, because any responsible administrator would make at least one copy of the company's database, then makes another copy of the backup. It's important that there's database-redundancy.

[Latviand]

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I don't know if this is true but given the volume of people that's requesting a refund and are angry at Betnomi, I think that you shouldn't base your belief in Betnomi by their response time to their emails because they're getting a lot of hatemails already and it's an instinct for them to ignore it and basically your email is probably drowned in spam and hatemails from other players. Maybe you can hope that you'll be able to get some response from them now that you've exposed yourself.

Yeah right, and then "many duplicate claims" happen? As if all the Betnomi customers have friends and family members who are trying to cheat on them?
Sounds very unrealistic.

Betnomi is currently pursuing the people that have stolen what's rightfully their's in the form of codes and systems. Cheating using your parent's name is kind of a crazy stuff, only way to absolve these duplicates is either deal with it or let it ran way.

[Eternad]

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I don't know if this is true but given the volume of people that's requesting a refund and are angry at Betnomi, I think that you shouldn't base your belief in Betnomi by their response time to their emails because they're getting a lot of hatemails already and it's an instinct for them to ignore it and basically your email is probably drowned in spam and hatemails from other players. Maybe you can hope that you'll be able to get some response from them now that you've exposed yourself.

They already stated on their previous post that only few left that still doesn’t receive their funds before they close. The large volume of fake claims is very easy to address since they have all the original information of their players including email.

The email itself is sufficient to claim the refund without the need of KYC unless they imposed KYC to all their user before then KYC really matters at all. They should have at least process the first batch if they are really serious about this refund process.

[notblox1]

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

Sorry about that, but you are never going to receive any reply from that email because sorsis is not controlling it anymore.
If I am wrong it would be very easy for him to prove that and send several emails with message that he controls it.
I am waiting to see what is going to happen.

[arallmuus]

They already stated on their previous post that only few left that still doesn’t receive their funds before they close.

Which is also weird that so far none of the refunds were processed if only a few are left especially when most of them have really small balance.

The large volume of fake claims is very easy to address since they have all the original information of their players including email.

At the same time, there are also several legit claims that could be processed in the mean time without having to wait for everyone to submit their request then sort out which is a legit claim and which is not. Pretty sure they could easily differentiate which is a legit claim

I am waiting to see what is going to happen.

Probably nothing at this rate. Unless they decided to process several batches of the refunds then at this rate, nothing is going to happen. Im pretty sure that there are several legit claims that is easy for them to differentiate compared to those fake claims. Some of the betnomi's sponsored poker tournaments players still havent received their refunds yet and these players's claims are legit

[Hispo]

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

Sorry about that, but you are never going to receive any reply from that email because sorsis is not controlling it anymore.
If I am wrong it would be very easy for him to prove that and send several emails with message that he controls it.
I am waiting to see what is going to happen.

My guess is that they are not even going to use that mail to reply to enquires of people who want to have an answer. I believe it is similar to when you try to get to get a reply from a mail which is not even being monitored by an actual human being, but only used for commercial automated purposes. If one is seeking to talk to a person instead of giving a shoot to an email which is obviously not Intended to be for customer support, then it is more constructive to try to get the attention of Betnomi in here, they at least have proven to be willing to talk to gamblers in this thread.
By the way, one must also keep in mind we are going right through the Christmas season, so I would not be surprised if Betnomi does not count with all the workforce they would need to quickly process all the refunds and filter all the mails they must be getting at the same time, we are not supposed to forget the staff behind this effort to alledgely help people to reclaim their money are human beings as well and they would also like to spend time with their families this season. I know it sounds rather cynical keeping in mind all this started as a exit scam, but those are facts we cannot forget about.

In the meantime, I am also keeping an eye on this thread and see who this story/situation will continue to develop.

[Latviand]

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They already stated on their previous post that only few left that still doesn’t receive their funds before they close. The large volume of fake claims is very easy to address since they have all the original information of their players including email.

The email itself is sufficient to claim the refund without the need of KYC unless they imposed KYC to all their user before then KYC really matters at all. They should have at least process the first batch if they are really serious about this refund process.

Well, I'm just weighing in on opinions about the possible reason as to why they're still not being responsive about the emails, I mean there's a lot of reason why someone can't respond to emails quickly right? And there's also the possibility that they don't have the money yet for the other refund money, didn't their partners run away with some of the money right?

[Unsoldier]

It's not about that, you're not responding to emails.

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I think Betnomi is processing a lot of requests, so they can't respond quickly. You should try to send them some more requests and then maybe they will pay attention to your problem. I hope the casino support will solve your request.

[AbuBhakar]

It's not about that, you're not responding to emails.

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I think Betnomi is processing a lot of requests, so they can't respond quickly. You should try to send them some more requests and then maybe they will pay attention to your problem. I hope the casino support will solve your request.

I doubt that this will be helpful to speed up his case because there’s zero case of refunded user here so far since Betnomi create this thread and announce the plan. There should be some user that receive refund if they are really busy on processing refunds.

Bumping email will not help if they are not responding any of the refund claims since the beginning.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

It's not about that, you're not responding to emails.

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I think Betnomi is processing a lot of requests, so they can't respond quickly. You should try to send them some more requests and then maybe they will pay attention to your problem. I hope the casino support will solve your request.

I doubt that this will be helpful to speed up his case because there’s zero case of refunded user here so far since Betnomi create this thread and announce the plan. There should be some user that receive refund if they are really busy on processing refunds.

Bumping email will not help if they are not responding any of the refund claims since the beginning.

Of course they won't do single refunds.
If they send these, it will be in bulk transactions. Obviously figuring out the whole situation takes a lot of time. Not every request for a refund might be valid, there are enough clowns trying to take advantage of all the fuss and get a freebie or something.
It takes as long as it takes, their initial reappearance and and first post back is not even 1 month old. You can't expect miracles here.
I think all users thinking they would never see 1 cent from them should be happy there is still a chance. Personally I am also effected by this, not a lot of $ thankfully . Still I didn't expect a refund to be an option until I found this thread.

[AbuBhakar]

I doubt that this will be helpful to speed up his case because there’s zero case of refunded user here so far since Betnomi create this thread and announce the plan. There should be some user that receive refund if they are really busy on processing refunds.

Bumping email will not help if they are not responding any of the refund claims since the beginning.

Of course they won't do single refunds.
If they send these, it will be in bulk transactions. Obviously figuring out the whole situation takes a lot of time. Not every request for a refund might be valid, there are enough clowns trying to take advantage of all the fuss and get a freebie or something.
It takes as long as it takes, their initial reappearance and and first post back is not even 1 month old. You can't expect miracles here.
I think all users thinking they would never see 1 cent from them should be happy there is still a chance. Personally I am also effected by this, not a lot of $ thankfully . Still I didn't expect a refund to be an option until I found this thread.

The problem is they are the one who give a 30 days window to withdraw balance of affected customer. This means that they should be active on answering emails since they only give limited window time to claim yet most of the user here reported unanswered email.

You’re right that Betnomi coming back for refund is already a miracle but my concern is why they need to have a window time on for withdrawal funds while they will take longer to analyze all the submission.

[Kavelj22]

I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

Sure it can. If the false claimee is friends/family with the true claimee and knows about the situation. And perhaps they can get into their e-Mail address., All it takes is to create a wallet address and voila. Stolen.  I think they should only refund to an address previously used for deposits. That might bring an extra layer of security into the whole thing. Especially against people who might try to pre-plan and fake such a scenario in order to claim they never got their refund.

But this is one of those times where KYC comes in handy. (Although I am not a fan of giving strangers government documents, which if leaked or sold, could lead to them having life-long identity theft issues.)

Do you actually find it worthwhile to use your deposit address for refund? But this is more dangerous than you might expect. I will explain the matter to you simply: operations are not required to be carried out from a private address to which the depositor has a private key. I can assure you that most of them complete deposits and withdrawals to and from their accounts on the trading platforms. These addresses are not the property of the users, but rather the property of the trading platform they use, and the platform recommends not using any of the addresses in withdrawal operations to make deposits.

This is a very serious point, and any user who will be compensated must be asked to provide a refund address according to the type of his assets.

[avp2306]

I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

Sure it can. If the false claimee is friends/family with the true claimee and knows about the situation. And perhaps they can get into their e-Mail address., All it takes is to create a wallet address and voila. Stolen.  I think they should only refund to an address previously used for deposits. That might bring an extra layer of security into the whole thing. Especially against people who might try to pre-plan and fake such a scenario in order to claim they never got their refund.

But this is one of those times where KYC comes in handy. (Although I am not a fan of giving strangers government documents, which if leaked or sold, could lead to them having life-long identity theft issues.)

Do you actually find it worthwhile to use your deposit address for refund? But this is more dangerous than you might expect. I will explain the matter to you simply: operations are not required to be carried out from a private address to which the depositor has a private key. I can assure you that most of them complete deposits and withdrawals to and from their accounts on the trading platforms. These addresses are not the property of the users, but rather the property of the trading platform they use, and the platform recommends not using any of the addresses in withdrawal operations to make deposits.

This is a very serious point, and any user who will be compensated must be asked to provide a refund address according to the type of his assets.

Don't get me wrong about this but I think if the exchange where they get those addresses is fine then there's nothing to worry about and Betnomi could use that since they can really verify if the claimnants is real then maybe they can check the deposited amount to their wallet while the issue happened to them.

But if there's a problem on the exchange then maybe they should pm Betnomi for that and ask for certain verifcation and also change of wallet address for refund so that you will not get any problem if they sent the refunds then make sure that everything is alright at your end.