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November 13, 2014, 08:24:05 AM |
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Quickfix could be adding a check for low blocktime and increase the banscore with 10. That way clients would disconnect from clever after 10 fast blocks for 1 day because the default ban limit is 100. Easy to implement, dynamic and not centralized.
I would get behind this. You're 100% correct in that this would be an easy implementation. The only thing I would worry about is forked side chains from people not updating their clients. The breakdown looks good now, but before the 130 update, there were a lot of people on old wallets. Of course, you would just ban versions older than the newest as well. Not a bad idea, thsminer. -Fuse I think this (thsminer's idea of banning miners with fast blocks by using the banscore) would cause chain splits and net splits. Imagine that clever is connected to 2 peers: a and b, those 2 peers will block clever after 10 blocks. Clever will then connect to two other peers to relay their blocks: c and d. c,d will relay clevers blocks to a,b. After 10 fast blocks c,d will block clever, but more importantly: a,b will block c,d. This goes on and at the end of the day the network is splitted into several groups of peers and miners are divided accross those, causing multiple chain forks to be mined. Conceptually; the idea of banning a miner after too many fast blocks have been mined would work. But the question is: how to effectively ban while keeping the network safe. (again: proxying is really really simple, and banning blocks of IP's won't really help).
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November 13, 2014, 08:31:50 AM |
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Quickfix could be adding a check for low blocktime and increase the banscore with 10. That way clients would disconnect from clever after 10 fast blocks for 1 day because the default ban limit is 100. Easy to implement, dynamic and not centralized.
I would get behind this. You're 100% correct in that this would be an easy implementation. The only thing I would worry about is forked side chains from people not updating their clients. The breakdown looks good now, but before the 130 update, there were a lot of people on old wallets. Of course, you would just ban versions older than the newest as well. Not a bad idea, thsminer. -Fuse I think this (thsminer's idea of banning miners with fast blocks by using the banscore) would cause chain splits and net splits. Imagine that clever is connected to 2 peers: a and b, those 2 peers will block clever after 10 blocks. Clever will then connect to two other peers to relay their blocks: c and d. c,d will relay clevers blocks to a,b. After 10 fast blocks c,d will block clever, but more importantly: a,b will block c,d. This goes on and at the end of the day the network is splitted into several groups of peers and miners are divided accross those, causing multiple chain forks to be mined. Conceptually; the idea of banning a miner after too many fast blocks have been mined would work. But the question is: how to effectively ban while keeping the network safe. (again: proxying is really really simple, and banning blocks of IP's won't really help). Great response /GeertJohan, also good to hear from you again. Do you have a target month for the algorithm change to take place?
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November 13, 2014, 08:48:15 AM |
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As btc price goes up so will the good alts as investors want to invest in future potential of currencies that can have the same success as bitcoin in the future.
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November 13, 2014, 09:02:36 AM |
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I love the guldencoin community someone sends me 50k ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) 40K missing, and then I have everything back guldencoin is the best coin ever!
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November 13, 2014, 11:25:35 AM |
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I love the guldencoin community someone sends me 50k ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) 40K missing, and then I have everything back guldencoin is the best coin ever! You are right about that Bram_vnl, you will notice I only post on this ANN because I couldn't give a shit about other alts. They are all... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJza1-4zRk... so maybe doge is a exception with it's community but it will never be taken seriously in the long run.
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November 13, 2014, 11:30:36 AM |
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2 weeks for the simulator to be built?!?! /GeertJohan must be one hell of a developer. Is it only him working on the simulator?
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November 13, 2014, 12:20:18 PM |
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I'm working on a new project, I am only looking for someone who can make a guldencoin payment plugin for me (that the coins automatic go to my wallet) you can send a pm if you can help ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) This is what is in the admin ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs22.postimg.org%2F90c3sodk1%2Fadmin.jpg&t=665&c=aLdwZLty3LG6lw) kleine bump omdat ik nog steeds op zoek ben small bump because I'm still looking
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November 13, 2014, 12:34:04 PM |
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I'm working on a new project, I am only looking for someone who can make a guldencoin payment plugin for me (that the coins automatic go to my wallet) you can send a pm if you can help ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) This is what is in the admin ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs22.postimg.org%2F90c3sodk1%2Fadmin.jpg&t=665&c=aLdwZLty3LG6lw) kleine bump omdat ik nog steeds op zoek ben small bump because I'm still looking We should contact https://www.coinpayments.net/home for adding nlg. I used this service with another coin and they're reliable and easy to use ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I hope it can help
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November 13, 2014, 12:34:18 PM |
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Bram, you can also use Litepaid
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November 13, 2014, 12:38:09 PM |
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Bram, you can also use Litepaid
i now but the problem is i want the coins to my wallet not to euro's
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November 13, 2014, 12:41:04 PM |
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Bram, you can also use Litepaid
i now but the problem is i want the coins to my wallet not to euro's Litepaid has also the option to pay you in NLG.
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November 13, 2014, 12:41:14 PM |
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Bram, you can also use Litepaid
i now but the problem is i want the coins to my wallet not to euro's With Litepaid you can choose if you want your payments in Guldencoins or euros.
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November 13, 2014, 12:42:08 PM Last edit: November 13, 2014, 01:39:13 PM by bram_vnl |
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Bram, you can also use Litepaid
i now but the problem is i want the coins to my wallet not to euro's With Litepaid you can choose if you want your payments in Guldencoins or euros. I have a look tonight for that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) thanks edit: no tonight i go to the cinema "dumb and dumber 2"
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November 13, 2014, 02:49:15 PM |
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that is a big record but old song ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) a new mix
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November 13, 2014, 02:57:07 PM |
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Fun, can't stop playing, cloud.... mmmm sounds interesting ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 13, 2014, 03:03:01 PM |
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Fun, can't stop playing, cloud.... mmmm sounds interesting ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its give me a big smile
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November 13, 2014, 03:22:12 PM |
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Quickfix could be adding a check for low blocktime and increase the banscore with 10. That way clients would disconnect from clever after 10 fast blocks for 1 day because the default ban limit is 100. Easy to implement, dynamic and not centralized.
I would get behind this. You're 100% correct in that this would be an easy implementation. The only thing I would worry about is forked side chains from people not updating their clients. The breakdown looks good now, but before the 130 update, there were a lot of people on old wallets. Of course, you would just ban versions older than the newest as well. Not a bad idea, thsminer. -Fuse I think this (thsminer's idea of banning miners with fast blocks by using the banscore) would cause chain splits and net splits. Imagine that clever is connected to 2 peers: a and b, those 2 peers will block clever after 10 blocks. Clever will then connect to two other peers to relay their blocks: c and d. c,d will relay clevers blocks to a,b. After 10 fast blocks c,d will block clever, but more importantly: a,b will block c,d. This goes on and at the end of the day the network is splitted into several groups of peers and miners are divided accross those, causing multiple chain forks to be mined. Conceptually; the idea of banning a miner after too many fast blocks have been mined would work. But the question is: how to effectively ban while keeping the network safe. (again: proxying is really really simple, and banning blocks of IP's won't really help). Forks won't occur if the clients only accept the latest version of the wallet(the version with the change) and ban the rest. I did this with KDC when they hard forked, and then forked 20 times in like an hour. The dev at the time didn't limit the version, so the old version that was a higher block reward was still submitting "valid" blocks. If you limit the version to only the newest, every wallet would reject clever's blocks. The only way this wouldn't work is if clever changed the code, distributed the modified wallet to the community, and he had more people behind a takeover of NLG than NLG has itself. If you limit the version and do the ban score, it will work. -Fuse EDIT: The other thought I just had is would it be possible to self ban? Essentially stop clever from submitting the blocks in the first place. After the ban score gets to a certain point, the blocks aren't accepted from that client at all. At the client... before it pings other clients for confirmation. Just a thought.
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Frais
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November 13, 2014, 03:23:49 PM |
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Problem with this is that it is not pooled mining, but solo CPU mining. Chances of getting NLG through this way are very slim. dat zet geen zoden aan de dijk Maybe using the wallets to contribute some power to the network will do little for the current problems, I still think it's a good way to make the normal users aware of the fact that Guldencoin is more than buying some coins at Litebit and store them in their wallet. If you want to attract more (potential) miners then let the normal users take their first steps with the piece of software they all have, their wallets. Give them a reward that's always much lower than regular mine rewards so it's not really worth to cheat by using multiple computers. And if they cheat they still contribute. I think this option is ideal to go viral within the normal group of users, and maybe a few take the step to real mining.
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