AMT fucks us over again

[loshia]

Dude a simple tax investigation against AMT and their famous Genno's stakes will bring Zipkin ass to jail guaranteed  
All Capone story when everything fails this works for sure
But Zipkin is paying taxes and not hiding anything right poserko

How would AMT pays state taxes when they're not registered with the state to do business in PA.

They have to pay taxes somewhere for sure
And they shall give you invoices also or at least that is how business works in Europe
When you buy something you get receipt or paper official document  proving your payment with the goods

[opieum2]

Dude a simple tax investigation against AMT and their famous Genno's stakes will bring Zipkin ass to jail guaranteed  
All Capone story when everything fails this works for sure
But Zipkin is paying taxes and not hiding anything right poserko

How would AMT pays state taxes when they're not registered with the state to do business in PA.

They have to pay taxes somewhere for sure
And they shall give you invoices also or at least that is how business works in Europe
When you buy something you get receipt or paper official document  proving your payment with the goods

Actually I think the action for discovery will show there will be a mess. This is why they cant change their site right now. Any action on that front without the approval of the court will mean hiding evidence. If I had to guess they are in the middle of getting a bunch of information from AMT to find out how to properly settle this. That said there are alot of other routes that can be taken. And appear to be taken. The FBI investigating them has been mentioned in the main thread...and its possible because of the investomer concept, it could run afoul of SEC regulations. Even if they aren't just having that on record that they were investigated by them is a bad thing on its own.

The problem is the longer they drag this out and procrastinate making us whole....the worse its going to get.

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Dear AMT customers/clients/followers.

We write to inform you that due to the pending class action, Lenell et al. v. Advanced Mining Technology, Inc., No. 14-cv-01924 (E.D.Pa.), we will no longer be communicating on the Bitcoin Talk Forum per the advice of our attorneys. We are still working towards resolving all outstanding customer complaints in conjunction with our counsel. Please note that customers may still contact us directly to  discuss issues with their orders, but we will be unable to use the forum as a means of communication regarding specific orders or the pending litigation. You may contact us by phone at 855-866-6463 or by email at josh@advancedminers.com .  We will still handle individual communications regarding orders within the ordinary course of business.

Did your attorney say it was okay to delete relevant documents from sources you control, i.e. this thread? I'm just asking in case this thread is needed for the jury trial.

BTW, if you delete this post, it probably will be the first one presented to the judge. I'm just saying.

~Bruno Kucinskas

PS: You owe me $40,000 USD - and counting - for not taking down that YouTube video of me, in which you claim it shows proof that I support AMT to help you garner more sales, of which is not the case.

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Dear AMT customers/clients/followers.

We write to inform you that due to the pending class action, Lenell et al. v. Advanced Mining Technology, Inc., No. 14-cv-01924 (E.D.Pa.), we will no longer be communicating on the Bitcoin Talk Forum per the advice of our attorneys. We are still working towards resolving all outstanding customer complaints in conjunction with our counsel. Please note that customers may still contact us directly to  discuss issues with their orders, but we will be unable to use the forum as a means of communication regarding specific orders or the pending litigation. You may contact us by phone at 855-866-6463 or by email at josh@advancedminers.com .  We will still handle individual communications regarding orders within the ordinary course of business.

It still amazes me how you keep spelling the name of your company incorrectly.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

http://www.chimicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/AMT-Bitcoin-Complaint-for-CT-website.pdf

61. It was not until February 27, 2014, that Plaintiff Urbanek received a response
from Defendants. The email claimed that “the entire team is in the manufacturing facility day
and night – testing, building, adjusting and so on.” The email failed to supply a revised
shipment date, but rather informed Plaintiff Urbanek that Defendants would keep him posted on
the shipment of his miners as they move down the waiting list

We know this is a lie because AMT only had access to the facilities they assembled miners at during normal business hours and only 5 days a week.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

As far as I'm concerned, Joshua Zipkin created himself a fuckin' sockpuppet:

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This is an open thread, to discuss AMT Miners, also known as Advanced Mining Technologies inc which has been created by me, i am a concerned client of AMT, and I plan to take an initiative in helping to get the to the bottom of the current situation.

My name is: Mr. Swim
My order number is: #333

I'm on record for being the first to call bullshit on the #333 order number: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=463922.0

It's definitely not a 1.2 TH/s rig and it's not an is #333. The it is is a was #333.

Speaking of 3s, here's an image of 33 Bulgarian Freemasons:




...somebody's making Joshua Zipkin squeal like a pig that he is.

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Do you happen to know why they had even chosen to reply to people in a forum and not directly to their customers via email? I have an order with 2 1.2th miners. Gee if they even send me some competitor's hardware which is cheaper now id be happy.

A forum is a public arena, it seems that here they get a better understand of who's order is what and who's order they can fulfill directly without offering up settlement options via their website. It seems that if they were to email all their clients (some in the class action) then again it would result in a problem, because again that would be settling outside of the class which the other lawyers don't seem to like.    <-  Frowny face.

I am only a client of AMT, but my suggestion is to email AMT with what you'd propose as a form of settlement for your order, from the above options which I overheard while sitting in their office.

Again - my name is Mr. Swim, my order # is 333.

A nice little self-moderated thread you have here, already deleting my first comment showing proof that no way in hell you could have order #333 and waiting for a miner from AMT.

[opieum2]

I honestly want to sit back and watch where this one goes.....I have been way too active....more so than I wanted to be. I just wanted my miners lol. And maybe in the process help people get theirs too.

[timmyd]

Hi guys im back been a while since my last post here, you may remember that i did finally recieve a 520ghs miner from amt order number #1450,
you may also remember the poor condition it arrived in and the fact that it didnt even mine, 1 chip even burnt out on 1 card, well since then i have been promised time and time again a replacement product by joshua himself, it has been several weeks now and i have not received anything from amt, i was promised a shipping label to send the faulty miner back this was nearly 2 weeks ago, still nothing, so i would like to make everybody aware that they need to stay the hell away from amt and do not purchase a miner from them, they have no customer service and can certainly not handle returns.
ive basically been robbed over $3999 or £2800 have been wasted on this miner, i cannot believe it, i could seriously do with that money and instead its sat in amts pocket while i got sent a pile of junk, BE WARNED GUYS LEARN FROM MY MISTAKE, OH AND I ALSO HAVE MR JOSHUAS PERSONAL SKYPE IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO GET HOLD OF HIM PM ME
I HOPE YOU GUYS GET TO READ THIS BEFORE ITS CENSORED AWAY BY AMT#

Also does anyone have the details of this law firm that are dealing with amt?

[opieum2]

You missed alot man. They are pretty much not responding to anything any more because of the lawsuit it appears. Right now we (users) have been helping each other out trying to get the miners working on our own. Keep an eye on the main thread for that. We wont know anything about the lawsuit until its over.

[loshia]

That was just deleted from AMT thread
good work Josh

.........
Plow time? So you want to plow us now? Careful now, that can be misconstrued as sexual harassment buddy. God knows we have the voicemails left on Josh's phone from your number threatening his family. "where's my money josh, i'm gonna come get you, i'm gonna come into your home and find you where you sleep, i'm gonna get you!".

Either Red Bull is a dangerous drug causing people to refer to themselves in the third person, or there's a second deranged character loose at AMT.

Speaking of threatening boys (AMT) i am wandering what happened to Your PM's sent to Phinnaeus
Or you call this a friendly advise
Phin Invited you officially to visit him. Right Zipkin? And despite of you Zipkin, Phin does not need a bodyguard army right?
So when you threat people what do you expect in return? Phin and other folks to shit into their pants and bring you official apology because they ruined your name and business
It is about time for you Zipkin to START TO think what you write here and how you treat people who lost a tons of money because of YOU!. They just do not care who fucked you IMET, Chinese or you did this to your company with your stupidity and INCOMPETENCE
You are the one responsible for this and you took their money not IMET or Chinese suppliers!!!
As i said many times keep your ass in good health because you gonna need it in jail
You are heading to jail for sure. It might be during your next business ventures unrelated to bitcoin but  jail is waiting for you. So once again make sure your precious MASON ass is in good health when you end up there sooner or later  
And remember do not be afraid when someone threats you
Threats are coming from the cowards only! This applies to both YOU (AMT) and your customers if you speak the truth that  someone is treating you (Highly Unlikely), So boys (AMT customers) i am sorry to say that but if you do relay threatening AMT this makes YOU same ass halls like Josha!!! Beides Joshua is the only one responsible for the situation, not his wife, relatives or employees which do not exist Do not do that!!!!! The shithole where AMT are in is so deep so it is just a meter of time for Joshua to get drown!!!! Lave this to him he will do the dirty job instead of YOU. Do not get your hands dirty. It is just not worth it!!!

The folks who act do not speak/write too much. And as long you POSERKO (Joshua) keeps posting his bullshit over and over the chance to feel a sudden ass pain is getting bigger and bigger. And it will happen much sooner before he gets drown into his own shits!
Trust me
10 BTC BET

PS: sorry boys i broke my promise and posted again.....I am doing my best to stay out of it but .......

[Flying Hellfish]

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Quote from: AMT_miners on June 05, 2014, 04:37:24 PM

You are one of the main reasons we are all in this mess. Go back to your corner and stop annoying the hell out of your counsel.

This is funny, I actually thought the main reasons for you being in this mess was your decision to:
-use an extremely risky business model to fund the start up
-fail to follow through with statements/promises/claims
-"abuse" your clients in a public venue
-illegally withhold refunds
-ignore customers and not provide real updates, you even decided to ignore a number of customers who were actively trying to resolve the problems with you
-what ever else I missed!!!

That user doesn't even factor into the equation, you still can't see that and that right there guys is the main reason you're eating a big old nasty shit sandwich.

You want investomers to look at it from your point of view, how about you look at it from theirs for a second.  If you honestly do, it should be of little surprise to you that some folks took what was surely perceived as the only legal way to get anything done, YOU left them no choice.

Making statements like this makes me believe you've learned nothing from the shit storm you're in.  You're full of shit IMO and have no chance of fixing this and coming out of it with a thriving business.

[loshia]

So before amt fucks you for second time please take a few mom nets to read this
I am expecting this to be deleted soon from amt official thread.
So it might look like a spam but...it is extremely important
Here is the story

What do you guys think about this Novello Technologies?

Who asks boys  
Their face book likes rating sucks so they are not to be trusted
As I said my initial consulting fee is 10 btc

loshia... I think you should leave this thread.

you are no help.  you are an amateur has never been involved in manufacturing.... so get lost.

never heard of Novello, but at least they take the effort to write a long prospectus.

Same like josh. He is writing a lot
I am leving boys ....
By the way do amt have enough issues before asking you what do you think about Novello?
And who gives a fuck about it you have miners and refunds to peruse
Good luck and hurry up give all what was left from Amt scam to Novello   and fill Josh pocket again
 
Wish you luck boys
Josh take their money once again Josh I am with you bud go and nail them
Actually as I see things you are not needing my consulting services anymore. There are a plenty of folks who will spent money on your name. Just be straight and start over again. There is no need to hide behind Novello  

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Just got off the phone with the Jenkintown's PD, and they're taking Joshua's threat toward me rather serious and wanted me to confirm that if this were to go to trial would I be willing to travel to PA to testify, of which I replied in the affirmative.

I'm sure that Joshua Zipkin will go outta his way and explain to the officer that I'm sort of WHAT NUT.

Josh Zipkin has nobody to blame but himself for fucking up his company and now his life (personal/financially, not to mention that of his two partners).

If, by chance, Josh claims that some other person at AMT penned the threat, I will then demand that his computers be confiscated to verify who said what when.

~Bruno Kucinskas

[opieum2]

Just got off the phone with the Jenkintown's PD, and they're taking Joshua's threat toward me rather serious and wanted me to confirm that if this were to go to trial would I be willing to travel to PA to testify, of which I replied in the affirmative.

I'm sure that Joshua Zipkin will go outta his way and explain to the officer that I'm sort of WHAT NUT.

Josh Zipkin has nobody to blame but himself for fucking up his company and now his life (personal/financially, not to mention that of his two partners).

If, by chance, Josh claims that some other person at AMT penned the threat, I will then demand that his computers be confiscated to verify who said what when.

~Bruno Kucinskas

What death threat? If it is the one where he states you will pay for what you have done that is not a death threat and it could blow back on you as filing a false report. Not to mention the fact you have been posting anti-semtic remarks....also you plan on addressing my post to you? I guess you wont just like sirmineslaot didn't either and stopped coincidentally posting. You are quick on reacting to their posts but I am calling you out and you don't remark on that?? One would need to question if you really are this altrustic corporate hunter. Whats your excuse for posting up here? Even before they gave you the miners and promised you 30BTC you were posting. Your posts have all the earmarks of a smear campaign. I use to work in marketing I know what those tactics look like.

I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

Hate to say it, bud, but Joshua Zipkin of AMT, son of Harrison Zachariah Zipkin, not only scammed millions of dollars from the Bitcoin community, but has resorted to threatening to kill people because in his mind he feels that they are the ones that destroyed AMT, not him, for it's the Jewish Bulgarian Freemasons' way of doing things.

What does his father, and him being a Bulgarian Jew or a Mason have to do with any of this? Just seems like a way to make this a very easy way to SEO his name and smear it. That info has absolutely NOTHING to do with the many other issues going on. His business degree where he went to college is irrelevant....Bill Gates dropped out of college. Steve Jobs dropped out. I am not saying he is like either of those notable people, BUT the college thing is just irrelevant. People can be successful without the college degree (where did you go to college BTW?). I don't know how many MBA's I have worked with who are complete morons. I have interviewed people with Stanford and MIT degrees that have book smarts but no other skills. Again you are smearing him based on irrelevant information.....stick to the actionable facts we have now if you are hellbent on doing so. We have broken miners, undelivered hardware....those are things that make more sense, which btw they are in process of rectifying. Instead you seem to optimize his personal information to smear him via google. Its your posts that show up.....you and sirminesalot....his lame ass excuse was..a "friend" (only way someone is that motivated is if that friend is paying you or giving you sexual favors) plus again...friend can speak for themselves too.... you too are an overly motivated person to do what you have done.....so who is paying you? This is highly suspicious because you very conveniently format things for that. Its too much motivation to believe you do this out of some sense of altruism. Too much motivation to believe this is not financially motivated in some way. You also appear to have the google-fu skills to look up the information...resourceful and way too motivated. Someone who has alot of experience with this and time....so unless you are Bruce Wayne and are sitting atop a shitheap of money and time, I am pretty sure you are a paid shill...again the pieces add up too well, you might want to prove how you are not a paid shill, but honestly I don't think you can.

Those of us who actually got screwed here are paying the price for you guys trashing them with your conveniently SEO formatted posts. I didn't catch it before but its become glaringly obvious. If the company goes into receivership or he goes to jail the middlemen and other creditors get first dibs...we get the crumbs off the table after that. We get shit....I and a few others are working to make sure this issue is solved in the background. Everyone who is bitching here has something they lost here....at one point I was not sure who to believe.....but I am now just believing the facts. Fact is you have no obvious motive to be here. YOu did not order a miner from AMT...from day1 you started you pretty much have been on them. So why are you REALLY here? I am not defending them at all just....I and everyone else am fully aware they fucked up. They also know they have alot to lose here on alot of levels. But it does not help having someone instigate a virtual lynch mob....we the customers are trying to get results by various means. You and sirminesalot (who I suspect are paid by someone) have no business being here. loshia I do not think is one BUT also contributes nothing either and has no business being here. Let the customers handle this. We are already handling it and are starting to see results. We get pissed off when AMT drops the communication ball....so we react and then they react. Ebb and flow of things right now. They know the consequences if they dont address this and we know it. No sense in beating the dead horse. Alternately you have added nothing but racism and hate by implying that because he is a Bulgarian masonic Jew there is something wrong with that. Who the fuck cares!? He could be a Hari Krishna or Mormon or anything else....good people bad people exist in ALL faiths and races and even those without faith can be good/bad. Your distinction is a false one and misleading and insulting to people of those groups.

[Bicknellski]

Just got off the phone with the Jenkintown's PD, and they're taking Joshua's threat toward me rather serious and wanted me to confirm that if this were to go to trial would I be willing to travel to PA to testify, of which I replied in the affirmative.

I'm sure that Joshua Zipkin will go outta his way and explain to the officer that I'm sort of WHAT NUT.

Josh Zipkin has nobody to blame but himself for fucking up his company and now his life (personal/financially, not to mention that of his two partners).

If, by chance, Josh claims that some other person at AMT penned the threat, I will then demand that his computers be confiscated to verify who said what when.

~Bruno Kucinskas

What death threat? If it is the one where he states you will pay for what you have done that is not a death threat and it could blow back on you as filing a false report. Not to mention the fact you have been posting anti-semtic remarks....also you plan on addressing my post to you? I guess you wont just like sirmineslaot didn't either and stopped coincidentally posting. You are quick on reacting to their posts but I am calling you out and you don't remark on that?? One would need to question if you really are this altrustic corporate hunter. Whats your excuse for posting up here? Even before they gave you the miners and promised you 30BTC you were posting. Your posts have all the earmarks of a smear campaign. I use to work in marketing I know what those tactics look like.

I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

Hate to say it, bud, but Joshua Zipkin of AMT, son of Harrison Zachariah Zipkin, not only scammed millions of dollars from the Bitcoin community, but has resorted to threatening to kill people because in his mind he feels that they are the ones that destroyed AMT, not him, for it's the Jewish Bulgarian Freemasons' way of doing things.

What does his father, and him being a Bulgarian Jew or a Mason have to do with any of this? Just seems like a way to make this a very easy way to SEO his name and smear it. That info has absolutely NOTHING to do with the many other issues going on. His business degree where he went to college is irrelevant....Bill Gates dropped out of college. Steve Jobs dropped out. I am not saying he is like either of those notable people, BUT the college thing is just irrelevant. People can be successful without the college degree (where did you go to college BTW?). I don't know how many MBA's I have worked with who are complete morons. I have interviewed people with Stanford and MIT degrees that have book smarts but no other skills. Again you are smearing him based on irrelevant information.....stick to the actionable facts we have now if you are hellbent on doing so. We have broken miners, undelivered hardware....those are things that make more sense, which btw they are in process of rectifying. Instead you seem to optimize his personal information to smear him via google. Its your posts that show up.....you and sirminesalot....his lame ass excuse was..a "friend" (only way someone is that motivated is if that friend is paying you or giving you sexual favors) plus again...friend can speak for themselves too.... you too are an overly motivated person to do what you have done.....so who is paying you? This is highly suspicious because you very conveniently format things for that. Its too much motivation to believe you do this out of some sense of altruism. Too much motivation to believe this is not financially motivated in some way. You also appear to have the google-fu skills to look up the information...resourceful and way too motivated. Someone who has alot of experience with this and time....so unless you are Bruce Wayne and are sitting atop a shitheap of money and time, I am pretty sure you are a paid shill...again the pieces add up too well, you might want to prove how you are not a paid shill, but honestly I don't think you can.

Those of us who actually got screwed here are paying the price for you guys trashing them with your conveniently SEO formatted posts. I didn't catch it before but its become glaringly obvious. If the company goes into receivership or he goes to jail the middlemen and other creditors get first dibs...we get the crumbs off the table after that. We get shit....I and a few others are working to make sure this issue is solved in the background. Everyone who is bitching here has something they lost here....at one point I was not sure who to believe.....but I am now just believing the facts. Fact is you have no obvious motive to be here. YOu did not order a miner from AMT...from day1 you started you pretty much have been on them. So why are you REALLY here? I am not defending them at all just....I and everyone else am fully aware they fucked up. They also know they have alot to lose here on alot of levels. But it does not help having someone instigate a virtual lynch mob....we the customers are trying to get results by various means. You and sirminesalot (who I suspect are paid by someone) have no business being here. loshia I do not think is one BUT also contributes nothing either and has no business being here. Let the customers handle this. We are already handling it and are starting to see results. We get pissed off when AMT drops the communication ball....so we react and then they react. Ebb and flow of things right now. They know the consequences if they dont address this and we know it. No sense in beating the dead horse. Alternately you have added nothing but racism and hate by implying that because he is a Bulgarian masonic Jew there is something wrong with that. Who the fuck cares!? He could be a Hari Krishna or Mormon or anything else....good people bad people exist in ALL faiths and races and even those without faith can be good/bad. Your distinction is a false one and misleading and insulting to people of those groups.

Can you bold the remarks for us? Like to see where this pattern of racism from PG goes. Seeing as we have seen it before be good to catalog it all. There is zero room for that sort ignorance.

loshia I do not think is one BUT also contributes nothing either and has no business being here.

I wouldn't be so sure about Loshia. There are obviously direct ties to Marto and he does tend to troll in one direction for technobit for some odd reason. You might want to check into that further.

[opieum2]

Just got off the phone with the Jenkintown's PD, and they're taking Joshua's threat toward me rather serious and wanted me to confirm that if this were to go to trial would I be willing to travel to PA to testify, of which I replied in the affirmative.

I'm sure that Joshua Zipkin will go outta his way and explain to the officer that I'm sort of WHAT NUT.

Josh Zipkin has nobody to blame but himself for fucking up his company and now his life (personal/financially, not to mention that of his two partners).

If, by chance, Josh claims that some other person at AMT penned the threat, I will then demand that his computers be confiscated to verify who said what when.

~Bruno Kucinskas

What death threat? If it is the one where he states you will pay for what you have done that is not a death threat and it could blow back on you as filing a false report. Not to mention the fact you have been posting anti-semtic remarks....also you plan on addressing my post to you? I guess you wont just like sirmineslaot didn't either and stopped coincidentally posting. You are quick on reacting to their posts but I am calling you out and you don't remark on that?? One would need to question if you really are this altrustic corporate hunter. Whats your excuse for posting up here? Even before they gave you the miners and promised you 30BTC you were posting. Your posts have all the earmarks of a smear campaign. I use to work in marketing I know what those tactics look like.

I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

Hate to say it, bud, but Joshua Zipkin of AMT, son of Harrison Zachariah Zipkin, not only scammed millions of dollars from the Bitcoin community, but has resorted to threatening to kill people because in his mind he feels that they are the ones that destroyed AMT, not him, for it's the Jewish Bulgarian Freemasons' way of doing things.

What does his father, and him being a Bulgarian Jew or a Mason have to do with any of this? Just seems like a way to make this a very easy way to SEO his name and smear it. That info has absolutely NOTHING to do with the many other issues going on. His business degree where he went to college is irrelevant....Bill Gates dropped out of college. Steve Jobs dropped out. I am not saying he is like either of those notable people, BUT the college thing is just irrelevant. People can be successful without the college degree (where did you go to college BTW?). I don't know how many MBA's I have worked with who are complete morons. I have interviewed people with Stanford and MIT degrees that have book smarts but no other skills. Again you are smearing him based on irrelevant information.....stick to the actionable facts we have now if you are hellbent on doing so. We have broken miners, undelivered hardware....those are things that make more sense, which btw they are in process of rectifying. Instead you seem to optimize his personal information to smear him via google. Its your posts that show up.....you and sirminesalot....his lame ass excuse was..a "friend" (only way someone is that motivated is if that friend is paying you or giving you sexual favors) plus again...friend can speak for themselves too.... you too are an overly motivated person to do what you have done.....so who is paying you? This is highly suspicious because you very conveniently format things for that. Its too much motivation to believe you do this out of some sense of altruism. Too much motivation to believe this is not financially motivated in some way. You also appear to have the google-fu skills to look up the information...resourceful and way too motivated. Someone who has alot of experience with this and time....so unless you are Bruce Wayne and are sitting atop a shitheap of money and time, I am pretty sure you are a paid shill...again the pieces add up too well, you might want to prove how you are not a paid shill, but honestly I don't think you can.

Those of us who actually got screwed here are paying the price for you guys trashing them with your conveniently SEO formatted posts. I didn't catch it before but its become glaringly obvious. If the company goes into receivership or he goes to jail the middlemen and other creditors get first dibs...we get the crumbs off the table after that. We get shit....I and a few others are working to make sure this issue is solved in the background. Everyone who is bitching here has something they lost here....at one point I was not sure who to believe.....but I am now just believing the facts. Fact is you have no obvious motive to be here. YOu did not order a miner from AMT...from day1 you started you pretty much have been on them. So why are you REALLY here? I am not defending them at all just....I and everyone else am fully aware they fucked up. They also know they have alot to lose here on alot of levels. But it does not help having someone instigate a virtual lynch mob....we the customers are trying to get results by various means. You and sirminesalot (who I suspect are paid by someone) have no business being here. loshia I do not think is one BUT also contributes nothing either and has no business being here. Let the customers handle this. We are already handling it and are starting to see results. We get pissed off when AMT drops the communication ball....so we react and then they react. Ebb and flow of things right now. They know the consequences if they dont address this and we know it. No sense in beating the dead horse. Alternately you have added nothing but racism and hate by implying that because he is a Bulgarian masonic Jew there is something wrong with that. Who the fuck cares!? He could be a Hari Krishna or Mormon or anything else....good people bad people exist in ALL faiths and races and even those without faith can be good/bad. Your distinction is a false one and misleading and insulting to people of those groups.

Can you bold the remarks for us? Like to see where this pattern of racism from PG goes. Seeing as we have seen it before be good to catalog it all. There is zero room for that sort ignorance.

loshia I do not think is one BUT also contributes nothing either and has no business being here.

I wouldn't be so sure about Loshia. There are obviously direct ties to Marto and he does tend to troll in one direction for technobit for some odd reason. You might want to check into that further.

Bolded items. I can post dozens of posts with the EXACT SAME THEME...and worse he goes at his employees with things like mfc cams and all that crap (porn site btw) its patently stupid and irrational and serves no purpose to the discussion...it distracts from getting any facts. WHAT THE FUCK DOES BEING a religion or affiliation to a group or who your dad is have ANYTHING to do with a business. Hell even where he went to college. He might not be the best business man, but he is not this evil monster Phineas seems hellbent on portraying him as. This is exactly the kind of shit the Anti-Defamation league (who has pull with law enforcement and the media) comes after people for. Maybe I should file some cases there. If they see enough of that on this site then BCT overall gets shut down for even allowing the hateful discussion.

I will admit I am working (unpaid) with AMT to get their shit together....BUT its a matter of self-interest here to get miners...he has no money to bribe me with (and I dont do bribes as a general rule I got my own money as it is). So in full disclosure that is where I stand. I am not going to tear down another business to help my own self or a business. Just shows the weak position someone is in if they don't believe in their own product enough that they have to trash the competition. And Bick you can actually attest to that with my posts in the novello thread (since you posted there as well). I mentioned options to get better results for them. Not interested in trashing them...does not mean I am not skeptical...but I am giving some benefit of the doubt until its a sure thing either way.

As for loshia, I think he is just a technobit fanboy...nothing wrong with that. If he is coming at AMT its retarded...they are also partnered with technobit, so if he was technobits shill (which I do not think he is), then marto should get rid of him lol cause it hurts his business too. But I know technobit is working with AMT (on account that marto himself said it in a previous post in the main AMT thread). If he is a shill...well thats a whole other thing. I have not seen the usual patterns of a paid shill beyond him saying "poserko zipkin" Not something useful in a google SEO link. So either he is shitty at it or he is not one. That does not mean he is  useful. He seldom posts anything of technical use to assist and lack of contribution is just trolling. The customers have all the right in the world to bitch. But really going on and saying the same tired shit is just retarded. It is not helping us who are the customers get anything done. A few of us are taking active roles to get shit done and get our hardware. Under the circumstances its all we can do besides waiting for a class action that will take an obscene amount of time.

Oh and FYI there is plenty of tolerance for this...otherwise the mods would have removed all the posts.

Here is a sampling of it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=603878.0 again WHAT does his nationality or religion or who his dad is have to do with this? Note the distinction that his dad is never mentioned as an action functionary in the company, just implied but with nothing to back it up. In his own visit there he never ONCE mentioned his dad being there or involved in anyway.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=571143.0 Again the title is a freemason...WHY? What the hell does it matter? are they a sinister organization? Like Cobra from GIJOE? If so what proof have you of that? AND in this case what does it have to do with broken computer hardware or failed deliveries?

If you read almost all of his posts in AMT have that recurring theme of racism and hate. Might not be the case in some other threads (I have been doing my own looking) so why him specifically....also oddly why address this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640150.msg7177433#msg7177433 I was not specifically referring to him. Ironically I was referring to the people with a clear hardware initiative. So why the need to reply to that? I had not made my accusations at that point. Again tenuous but suspicious. That reply alone raised various flags. Could it be? The great and powerful wizard of Odd is a fraud? Considering he got called out as a traitor when he went to AMT's hq (again dubious pretenses) and he got a miner, we dont know for sure what he did with it. Just his word. No proof.

Also weird....why some companies and not others. Some are blatant scams. But he does not target them. Instead he goes after those that could actually be legit...that is a question that has run past me in the posts.

I find it very suspicious that he goes after companies that actually have a product or potentially do. But ones without crap get a pass. There are seldom comments on those pages and there are plenty of those.

He seems to have a real bias against Bulgarians as can be demonstrated in the following posts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628000.msg7103223#msg7103223

He is going on and on about how he is being death threatened....where is this post? Where at any point does Josh or AMT say he is going to kill him specifically. Making someone pay (which I have read) are VERY different distinctions. That can come in the form of a legal manner. Its a vague term. Where is your report that you reported to the police? I am curious to see how true that actually is.....

If this claim https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=634309.msg7082277#msg7082277 happens to be false...you go to jail for filing a false report...so now where is that report? You should have a copy. I and a few others have contacts in the PA police departments...but really the burden of proof is on you to provide that. Not gonna chase it down. The post is out there. But curious if he actualy used the word kill or you will die or anything that even implied death......making someone pay can mean alot of things. He could legally come at you. As it is this behaviour is anti-semetic just on the surface of it. I am not Jewish, but I dont like the intolerant bullshit I keep seeing. And noone should tolerate it either. zero tolerance my ass....the mods had occasion to ban him a long time ago and have not. Because they condone it. That will come out in time.

[marto74]

Just got off the phone with the Jenkintown's PD, and they're taking Joshua's threat toward me rather serious and wanted me to confirm that if this were to go to trial would I be willing to travel to PA to testify, of which I replied in the affirmative.

I'm sure that Joshua Zipkin will go outta his way and explain to the officer that I'm sort of WHAT NUT.

Josh Zipkin has nobody to blame but himself for fucking up his company and now his life (personal/financially, not to mention that of his two partners).

If, by chance, Josh claims that some other person at AMT penned the threat, I will then demand that his computers be confiscated to verify who said what when.

~Bruno Kucinskas

What death threat? If it is the one where he states you will pay for what you have done that is not a death threat and it could blow back on you as filing a false report. Not to mention the fact you have been posting anti-semtic remarks....also you plan on addressing my post to you? I guess you wont just like sirmineslaot didn't either and stopped coincidentally posting. You are quick on reacting to their posts but I am calling you out and you don't remark on that?? One would need to question if you really are this altrustic corporate hunter. Whats your excuse for posting up here? Even before they gave you the miners and promised you 30BTC you were posting. Your posts have all the earmarks of a smear campaign. I use to work in marketing I know what those tactics look like.

I tried emailing the RMA email three times. It failed each time. I haven't even received the 1.2TH/a unit I ordered on December 3rd, over six months ago. Can I just have my $6000 back? Pretty much any other company will allow you to cancel an order and you get your money back. Can I please just have my money back, PLEASE? I think that's a fair request. It didn't take me six months to give the money to AMT. I sent it instantaneously, in one lump sum. I don't think it's too much to ask. It was my money to begin with, and I just want it back since I have not gotten what was promised to me and pretty much everyone else who ordered. Why is that such a difficult thing to get? If I buy anything from pretty much anywhere, I can cancel my order or return the product and get a full refund either way.

Me and basically every other customer have been treated poorly and unfairly for virtually the entire time we have been dealing with this mess. Me personally, I just want my money back. I paid almost $8000 over six months ago and have essentially jack shit to show for it. If any legitimate company did this, compensation would be given immediately for the poor handling of the order, extremely poor customer service, horrendous product quality, and the outright lying to the public. I would please like to cancel my order and receive my full refund via bank transfer, personal check, money order, etc. I will even fly up there from Florida just to do a cash transaction and be done with this nightmare. No bitcoins, no virtual currency, none of that shit. I would just like my refund in United States Dollars. PLEASE, just let me be done with this mess and move on with my life. This has gone on for so long. That's all I want. This situation had plagued my life for long enough. I just want to be  compensated so I may be rid of the whole thing.

Hate to say it, bud, but Joshua Zipkin of AMT, son of Harrison Zachariah Zipkin, not only scammed millions of dollars from the Bitcoin community, but has resorted to threatening to kill people because in his mind he feels that they are the ones that destroyed AMT, not him, for it's the Jewish Bulgarian Freemasons' way of doing things.

What does his father, and him being a Bulgarian Jew or a Mason have to do with any of this? Just seems like a way to make this a very easy way to SEO his name and smear it. That info has absolutely NOTHING to do with the many other issues going on. His business degree where he went to college is irrelevant....Bill Gates dropped out of college. Steve Jobs dropped out. I am not saying he is like either of those notable people, BUT the college thing is just irrelevant. People can be successful without the college degree (where did you go to college BTW?). I don't know how many MBA's I have worked with who are complete morons. I have interviewed people with Stanford and MIT degrees that have book smarts but no other skills. Again you are smearing him based on irrelevant information.....stick to the actionable facts we have now if you are hellbent on doing so. We have broken miners, undelivered hardware....those are things that make more sense, which btw they are in process of rectifying. Instead you seem to optimize his personal information to smear him via google. Its your posts that show up.....you and sirminesalot....his lame ass excuse was..a "friend" (only way someone is that motivated is if that friend is paying you or giving you sexual favors) plus again...friend can speak for themselves too.... you too are an overly motivated person to do what you have done.....so who is paying you? This is highly suspicious because you very conveniently format things for that. Its too much motivation to believe you do this out of some sense of altruism. Too much motivation to believe this is not financially motivated in some way. You also appear to have the google-fu skills to look up the information...resourceful and way too motivated. Someone who has alot of experience with this and time....so unless you are Bruce Wayne and are sitting atop a shitheap of money and time, I am pretty sure you are a paid shill...again the pieces add up too well, you might want to prove how you are not a paid shill, but honestly I don't think you can.

Those of us who actually got screwed here are paying the price for you guys trashing them with your conveniently SEO formatted posts. I didn't catch it before but its become glaringly obvious. If the company goes into receivership or he goes to jail the middlemen and other creditors get first dibs...we get the crumbs off the table after that. We get shit....I and a few others are working to make sure this issue is solved in the background. Everyone who is bitching here has something they lost here....at one point I was not sure who to believe.....but I am now just believing the facts. Fact is you have no obvious motive to be here. YOu did not order a miner from AMT...from day1 you started you pretty much have been on them. So why are you REALLY here? I am not defending them at all just....I and everyone else am fully aware they fucked up. They also know they have alot to lose here on alot of levels. But it does not help having someone instigate a virtual lynch mob....we the customers are trying to get results by various means. You and sirminesalot (who I suspect are paid by someone) have no business being here. loshia I do not think is one BUT also contributes nothing either and has no business being here. Let the customers handle this. We are already handling it and are starting to see results. We get pissed off when AMT drops the communication ball....so we react and then they react. Ebb and flow of things right now. They know the consequences if they dont address this and we know it. No sense in beating the dead horse. Alternately you have added nothing but racism and hate by implying that because he is a Bulgarian masonic Jew there is something wrong with that. Who the fuck cares!? He could be a Hari Krishna or Mormon or anything else....good people bad people exist in ALL faiths and races and even those without faith can be good/bad. Your distinction is a false one and misleading and insulting to people of those groups.

Can you bold the remarks for us? Like to see where this pattern of racism from PG goes. Seeing as we have seen it before be good to catalog it all. There is zero room for that sort ignorance.

loshia I do not think is one BUT also contributes nothing either and has no business being here.

I wouldn't be so sure about Loshia. There are obviously direct ties to Marto and he does tend to troll in one direction for technobit for some odd reason. You might want to check into that further.

Bick ,
I am usually not comenting in AMT related treads as far they bought from us mining boards in the past and licence for hex8a.
You really think that the only reason for somebody to make jokes on your design efforts is because he works for me
loshia is our customer , that is all. He happens to be from Bulgaria just like us.
I do not know his exact reasons for fucking with you and AMT , but for sure he dos not like you both , as one can see from his posts.
Technobit have nothing against AMT or Josh as far they are our customer , thet was correct in our dealings.
And concerning you ......  I do post jokes on you due   the fact that you want us out of the busines .
And please do net tell me that everybody that makes jokes on you and WASP is our paid shill
With LOVE and understanding
marto

p.s. for other folks here.
Please excuse Bick , for the last 3 weeks he and mr. Joe  are bitching in every posible way , including posting negative ratings on us and our customers. They publicly announced that want us out of business. This is including twisted facts and straight lies.
The reason I suspect is that his great WASP project did not managed to came out with a single working ASIC design for 6+ months and we technobit  have made 9 successful projects already.

back on topic
I really hope that Josh and AMT will be able to fix all this .
At least i know our design , that they have the right to produce in North America is stable and working and they have full production license for it.

[loshia]

Opium and Bick
No matter what you do AMT IS A BIG BIG SCAM. PERIOD
I HAVE A LOT OTHER THINGS TO SAY BUT UNFORTUNALY I AM ENOUGH WITH YOUR BULSHIT.
Bick as I said make sure that you get a nice cut from Amt. That is the only thing you can do and blinking LEDs also
About opium I am wandering how josh bought you or even if you are josh. Any way josh is not gona stop to try to scam people. And someone has to pay the bill at the end. So a friendly advise for both of you gys.
Just be prepared to take Imet position very soon
About my technical skils yeah I am so stupid. The only thing what I can do is to admire a blinking led on pcb
Sorry Bick but I beg you please make me a part of your project and I promise to behave and pay my member ship fee of course. I can solder second led on Pcb if you want

[loshia]

To whom it may concern

Loshia,

Please don't ruin Miningtechnologies.com like you've ruined our first company's thread. Let this be an opportunity to start over.

What about it Bick and opium?
Unfortunately I have not revived pm about other suspected josh scams
You know what I mean boys right?
And yeah I take all responsibly for amt failure. Opium is first in my refund list if he has something to collect from Josh