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Author Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014  (Read 1183620 times)
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June 17, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
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hiya , im new here. I got problem when i open the wallet for the first time, it shows

"2014-Jun-17 19:45:04.599522 Boolberry wallet v0.2.0.20(f9bfe73)
2014-Jun-17 19:45:04.600522 Error: you must specify --wallet-file or --generate-new-wallet params
2014-Jun-17 19:45:04.602523 ERROR ..\..\src\simplewallet\simplewallet.cpp:1040[main]Failed to initialize wallet"

anyone know how to do? please help Huh(the bloackchain is synced but just cant set up a wallet)


Try
  ./simplewallet --generate-new-wallet wallet.bin
to create a new wallet or
  ./simplewallet --wallet-file wallet.bin
to use the existing wallet "wallet.bin"

wallet.bin is the file name of your wallet free to choose

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June 17, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
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The GUI is in HTML? If so- perhaps we could develop something like HIVE where exchanges can be plugged into the GUI directly?

What is HIVE ?
Anyway, it it technically possible and reasonable - i can do it.
GUI is rendered by WebKit, the same web engine that used in Chrome browser.

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June 17, 2014, 01:20:36 PM
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I am trying to Generate New wallet via the GUI and I guess I need to put in a file name but not sure what I need to put in
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June 17, 2014, 01:34:08 PM
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Can anyone explain please:
- Why we need a hardfork (or not)?
- What about the scratchpad ?

there are gpu miners for wild keccack now (which is used by bbr).
as this coin is intended to be cpu only there is a scratchpad needed for mining (just as a added memory requirement).
a gpu dev figured out how to store it effeciently: so we are talking about a hardfork to change the size of the scratchpad (or to change anything else we want to)
to be more correct - wild keccak scratchpad is increasing with each block. Now scratchpad is about 7Mb. It will grow about 90MB per year, and, since at this moment scratchpad is not big enough - it is possible to use gpu textures cache to mine it faster, as i know.
But according to dga calculations gpu miner is about 2.3 times more cost-effective than cpu, since big advantage gives only expansive cards.

PS: Probability of that i'll do hardfork is less than 1%. Now we focused on optimizing miner and implementing stratum pools.



Hmm, I based my previous post off of the belief that the GPU miner was 7 times faster.  If the difference is 2.3 and will likely become less with CPU miner optimization and as the scratchpad grows, then a hard fork isn't necessary.  But that's just my unsolicited opinion.

BTW, I like the GUI and have been using it.  Going to play around with the HTML.

If you'll forgive me for my academic caution, I want to be careful with those numbers -- they're an estimate.

From some numbers Zoidberg shared with me, it sounds like the GPU miner is getting about 7 megahash/s.

From his posts, I believe Christian is mining on 3x NVIDIA 780ti cards.  I confirmed this via PM.  Each of those costs $700, depending on which one you buy.

Simpleminer is now getting about 420kh/s on my i7-4770 (it's actually a xeon e3-1241 v3).  Price is about $280.

So if I put together a few numbers:

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device      speed        cost          hash/s/$
3x780ti    7000000    3*$700     3333
1xi7          420000    $280         1500

That gives an efficiency advantage of about 2.2 (I'm doing this from memory - I think the actual hashrate for the GPU rig was like 7.2, leading to an advantage of 2.3).

But the caution is that this is only one example -- there may be better GPUs for this, in which case the GPU advantage might be higher, or there might be better CPUs in terms of hash/s/$ (the i7 is a pretty expensive CPU), in which case the advantage might be lower.

I'd feel comfortable saying "1.5-4x" based upon these numbers.

Let me throw in one more thing to ponder for the longer term:  It's hard to predict what effect the increasing scratchpad size will have on the GPU to CPU efficiency ratio.    I believe that as the scratchpad starts to slip out of L3 cache on "normal" processors, it will be necessary to re-architect the CPU miners to operate differently for best efficiency.  I'm going to make a more risky prediction and say that compared to XMR, BBR will be a bit more GPU-friendly.  It has a bit more compute for each iteration, and its random memory access width is 256 bits instead of 128 bits).  But BBR will probably be less ASIC-friendly:  its growing scratchpad size (which is already very large by embedded memory standards) seems like a real pain, though I'm sure there are some ways to be super-clever about it.

(Also - there are a ton of other factors involved, such as the cost of the motherboard, or whether you already own the CPU and use it for other things, etc., etc.  -- please don't use this as a guide to trying to decide profitability! Smiley

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June 17, 2014, 01:34:55 PM
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I am trying to Generate New wallet via the GUI and I guess I need to put in a file name but not sure what I need to put in
Just give a name for your wallet. For example: education_savings.bbr

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June 17, 2014, 01:37:16 PM
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https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_bbr

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BBR/BTC  +199.9%

GUI and LOGO can work wonders! Smiley

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June 17, 2014, 01:54:38 PM
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https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_bbr

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BBR/BTC  +199.9%

GUI and LOGO can work wonders! Smiley

A proper dev & innovation also! Smiley Any plans on the table marketing wise?

Maybe it would be cool to implement Alias mining in the pool software so people can donate to get queued for an alias.
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June 17, 2014, 01:54:53 PM
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GL Dr. Zoidberg

CN movement is strong!
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June 17, 2014, 02:55:56 PM
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replace

Code:
body {
  font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
  color: #34495e;
  background-color: #ffffff;
  margin: 0em 0 0em 0;
  height:100%;
   -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;
    background: rgb(231, 231, 231);
}

in style.css, look a little more attractive.

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June 17, 2014, 03:08:23 PM
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Is there anyone who can make a graph from this poloniex public api:
Code:
https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnTradeHistory&currencyPair=BTC_BBR

Code:
[{"tradeID":"8755","date":"2014-06-17 14:57:53","type":"sell","rate":"0.00229317","amount":"39.5326518","total":"0.09065509"},{"tradeID":"8754","date":"2014-06-17 14:57:53","type":"sell","rate":"0.00229318","amount":"15.26264837","total":"0.03499999"},{"tradeID":"8753","date":"2014-06-17 14:49:24","type":"sell","rate":"0.00229328","amount":"76.42119596","total":"0.17525520"},{"tradeID":"8752","date":"2014-06-17 14:47:00","type":"sell","rate":"0.00229328","amount":"17","total":"0.03898576"},{"tradeID":"8751","date":"2014-06-17 14:46:55","type":"sell","rate":"0.00229328","amount":"15.52318562","total":"0.03559901"},{"tradeID":"8750","date":"2014-06-17 14:46:13","type":"sell","rate":"0.00229328","amount":"127.12567092","total":"0.29153475"},{"tradeID":"8749","date":"2014-06-17 14:46:13","type":"sell","rate":"0.00229329","amount":"0.16328506","total":"0.00037445"},{"tradeID":"8748","date":"2014-06-17 14:45:13","type":"sell","rate":"0.00229329","amount":"26","total":"0.05962554"},{"tradeID":"8747","date":"2014-06-17 14:44:27","type":"sell","rate":"0.0022999","amount":"50","total":"0.114995"},{"tradeID":"8746","date":"2014-06-17
............
14:44:27","type":"sell","rate":"0.002301","amount":"7.24062207","total":"0.01666067"},{"tradeID":"8745","date":"2014-06-17 14:44:27","type":"sell","rate":"0.0023011","amount":"4.90266828","total":"0.01128152"},{"tradeID":"8744","date":"2014-06-17 14:22:51","type":"buy","rate":"0.00235111","amount":"9.87456174","total":"0.02321618"},{"tradeID":"8743","date":"2014-06-17 11:28:12","type":"sell","rate":"0.00224317","amount":"0.44579769","total":"0.00100000"},{"tradeID":"8564","date":"2014-06-17 11:28:12","type":"sell","rate":"0.00224318","amount":"2.25479007","total":"0.00505789"},{"tradeID":"8563","date":"2014-06-17 11:24:27","type":"sell","rate":"0.0022594","amount":"12.16957599","total":"0.02749593"},{"tradeID":"8562","date":"2014-06-17 11:18:56","type":"sell","rate":"0.00231532","amount":"17","total":"0.03936044"},{"tradeID":"8561","date":"2014-06-17 11:18:28","type":"buy","rate":"0.00236","amount":"0.5410678","total":"0.00127692"},{"tradeID":"8560","date":"2014-06-17 11:17:48","type":"buy","rate":"0.00236","amount":"49.3589322","total":"0.11648707"},{"tradeID":"8559","date":"2014-06-17 11:09:07","type":"sell","rate":"0.00231532","amount":"32.33965517","total":"0.07487665"},{"tradeID":"8558","date":"2014-06-17 11:09:07","type":"sell","rate":"0.00235532","amount":"48","total":"0.11305536"},{"tradeID":"8557","date":"2014-06-17 11:09:07","type":"sell","rate":"0.00235533","amount":"19.66034483","total":"0.04630659"},{"tradeID":"8556","date":"2014-06-17 11:08:15","type":"buy","rate":"0.00237","amount":"70.85799999","total":"0.16793345"}]

I guess this would be not difficult to build graph using D3.js or something, want to add exchange graph tab to wallet.

Or does poloniex.com or bittrex.com share their graphs via URL/RPC ?


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June 17, 2014, 03:13:01 PM
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So if I put together a few numbers:
Code:
device      speed        cost          hash/s/$
3x780ti    7000000    3*$700     3333
1xi7          420000    $280         1500

That gives an efficiency advantage of about 2.2 (I'm doing this from memory - I think the actual hashrate for the GPU rig was like 7.2, leading to an advantage of 2.3).

Take into account power consumption. Around 220 W for 780ti (at least for some workloads I managed to google).
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June 17, 2014, 03:13:53 PM
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replace

Code:
body {
  font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
  color: #34495e;
  background-color: #ffffff;
  margin: 0em 0 0em 0;
  height:100%;
   -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;
    background: rgb(231, 231, 231);
}

in style.css, look a little more attractive.
done, thank you!

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June 17, 2014, 03:13:58 PM
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I guess this would be not difficult to build graph using D3.js ore something, want to add exchange graph tab to wallet.

Or does poloniex.com or bittrex.com share their graphs via URL/RPC ?



maybe you can use poloniex API

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returnChartData

Returns candlestick chart data. Require POST parameters are "currencyPair", "period" (candlestick period in seconds; valid values are 300, 900, 1800, 7200, and 14400), "start", and "end". "Start" and "end" are given in UNIX timestamp format and used to specify the date range for the data returned. Sample output:

Code:
[{"date":1400477400,"high":0.01111,"low":0.00106,"open":0.01,"close":0.01111,"volume":2.2123290212839}, ...]

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June 17, 2014, 03:18:20 PM
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So if I put together a few numbers:
Code:
device      speed        cost          hash/s/$
3x780ti    7000000    3*$700     3333
1xi7          420000    $280         1500

That gives an efficiency advantage of about 2.2 (I'm doing this from memory - I think the actual hashrate for the GPU rig was like 7.2, leading to an advantage of 2.3).

Take into account power consumption. Around 220 W for 780ti (at least for some workloads I managed to google).

Absolutely.  As I noted - there are a lot of factors, and I didn't want people to think 2.3x was "the number".  Too many variables to account for -- and who knows what that 780ti is drawing with BBR.  Claymore's XMR miner, for example, seems to run somewhat cool because of the memory access latency.  The haswell i7 is an expensive CPU, but it's also very power efficient.  Mine's drawing 52 watts right now (package) while mining BBR, running far too many daemons for various coins, and keeping the GPUs fed.  An older CPU will probably cost less per hash (hash/s/$) but be less power efficient.... YMMV. Smiley

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June 17, 2014, 03:20:21 PM
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I guess this would be not difficult to build graph using D3.js ore something, want to add exchange graph tab to wallet.

Or does poloniex.com or bittrex.com share their graphs via URL/RPC ?



maybe you can use poloniex API

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returnChartData

Returns candlestick chart data. Require POST parameters are "currencyPair", "period" (candlestick period in seconds; valid values are 300, 900, 1800, 7200, and 14400), "start", and "end". "Start" and "end" are given in UNIX timestamp format and used to specify the date range for the data returned. Sample output:

Code:
[{"date":1400477400,"high":0.01111,"low":0.00106,"open":0.01,"close":0.01111,"volume":2.2123290212839}, ...]

returnChartData  it's a part of Trading API, there some nonce parametr that will make problems for different clients.
I guess we have to use Public API Methods, for example returnTradeHistory.

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June 17, 2014, 03:28:01 PM
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how the wallet work, there is no roaming created, also i can't access to the "wallet" with the gui
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June 17, 2014, 03:42:03 PM
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how the wallet work, there is no roaming created, also i can't access to the "wallet" with the gui

Until it synchronising with network wallet tab is unaccessible.
I think i should place descritpion there if it's not clear. Notice will be added tin next build.

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June 17, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
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how the wallet work, there is no roaming created, also i can't access to the "wallet" with the gui

Until it synchronising with network wallet tab is unaccessible.
I think i should place descritpion there if it's not clear. Notice will be added tin next build.

so no roaming or other folders are created everything is stored in the main DL folder right?
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June 17, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
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how the wallet work, there is no roaming created, also i can't access to the "wallet" with the gui

You can access the wallet once it's synchorinized. It can actually already open and create new wallets. Excellent work in such a short time!

If you mean the data directory by "roaming", it indeed is automaticly saving the blockchain there (at least for me). As I don't like that, I noticed that you can change the default directory the same way you do it for the deamon and so I created a small .bat file to start my GUI wallet:

Code:
START .\bbr-qt-win64-v0.2.0.20(f9bfe73)\qt-boolb --data-dir=".\data"
EXIT
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June 17, 2014, 04:01:39 PM
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The GUI is in HTML? If so- perhaps we could develop something like HIVE where exchanges can be plugged into the GUI directly?

What is HIVE ?
Anyway, it it technically possible and reasonable - i can do it.
GUI is rendered by WebKit, the same web engine that used in Chrome browser.

Hive is the OSX Bitcoin wallet. https://www.hivewallet.com/  It looks great and has plugins.
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